FAK164-Hoi Polloi

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I talk with Clues Chronicle and vicsim report founder Hoi Polloi. Vicsim report

When? April 9, 2017 @ 1911 EDT

Where? Listen live at fakeologist.com…

Please use the live chat discord room for all links and chat.

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FakeologistToday at 6:53 PM

show starts soon
if you want to join in, come to lobby
I’ll drag you in when showtime starts to livestream

mahatma coatToday at 6:57 PM

i don’t particularly want to talk just listen in, how do i do so please?

FakeologistToday at 7:02 PM

hoi polloiToday at 7:02 PM

check check

hoi polloiToday at 7:04 PM

check again

mahatma coatToday at 7:04 PM

is it on here fakeologist.com… or somewhere else?

hoi polloiToday at 7:05 PM

it wont let me add my mic
these issues with Discord started a couple weeks ago after a big update
it no longer lets me share my mic
it was working fine in March
early march

mahatma coatToday at 7:07 PM

never used it before, i think i’ll keep skype this is too confusing

hoi polloiToday at 7:08 PM

Discord is a beautiful half-program
ab says we should get the App but i’m skeptical i want that
anyway i am fine with chat for now,
what’s up everyone?!

FakeologistToday at 7:11 PM

hoi can you open the audio
Photographs show a New Jersey monument to the victims of 9/11 that was donated by Russia.

typoerrorToday at 8:06 PM

Man can never be a woman’s equal in the spirit of selfless service with which nature has endowed her. Ghandi

typoerrorToday at 8:15 PM

Calm down Fred.

typoerrorToday at 8:32 PM

Network of Oz. it did sound like howard beale to begin with.

typoerrorToday at 8:38 PM

40 yrs ago.approx. Wher did the time go.
e ?

FakeologistToday at 8:45 PM

typoerrorToday at 8:46 PM

sorry

FakeologistToday at 8:48 PM

FakeologistToday at 9:02 PM

typoerrorToday at 9:06 PM

Not strictly Hoi’s definition www.atlasobscura.com…
Building this tragically pointless stone barrier cost the lives of the prisoners made to build it

I recall a veil of tears as a poetic term for our earthly existence. Just passing through.

FakeologistToday at 9:10 PM

Martine Aliana Rothblatt (born 1954) is an American lawyer, author, and entrepreneur. Rothblatt graduated from University of California, Los Angeles with a combined law and MBA degree in 1981, then began work in Washington, D.C., first in the field of communications satellite law, and eventually in life sciences projects like the Human Genome Project. She is the founder and Chairman of the Board of United Therapeutics. She was also the CEO of GeoStar and the creator of SiriusXM Satellite Radio.

Satellite Beach is a coastal city situated in Brevard County, Florida. The population was 10,109 at the 2010 United States Census, and it is located with the Atlantic Ocean to the east and the Indian River to the west. Satellite Beach is part of the Palm Bay–Melbourne–Titusville Metropolitan Statistical Area.

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typoerrorToday at 9:15 PM

 

17 thoughts on “FAK164-Hoi Polloi

  1. John le BonJohn le Bon

    I for one would like to hear more from Hoi regarding his exploration of non-binary gender. After all, the idea that men ought to be masculine, and women ought to be feminine, is an anachronistic throwback to the bedeviled days of the 1950s. Gender is fluid, and only the evil old white men and their patriarchy would suggest otherwise. We need more exploration of non-binary gender. It might help us ease into the ‘Transvestigation’, 2017’s answer to Flat Earth.

    Keep the gold coming, fellas. But don’t make it too obvious 😉

    1. Hoi PolloiHoi Polloi

      But don’t make it too obvious

      Hi JLB! I want to take on your constructive feedback but I don’t understand what you mean. I think it’s a joke because of the winky face, but what does it mean? What is “it” in the issue of making things obvious? And isn’t it a good thing to make things obvious, and isn’t that the point of doing this public research?

      Sorry for my denseness but I don’t know what you want us to do differently.

      1. John le BonJohn le Bon

        Don’t do anything differently. Keep being you.

        I think I speak for all of us when I say we need more anti-white ‘history’ and Frankfurt School gender theory around these parts.

        Those evil white men, their invasions with smallpox-infested blankets and binary genders. What a better place this world will be if each and every white man knows and feels his original sin.

        Amirite or am I right?

        1. Hoi PolloiHoi Polloi

          It definitely sounds like you are being sarcastic about something, but to be honest I don’t know if I’ve heard enough about the specifics of what you are mocking to follow the implied complaint.

          Are you encouraging us to celebrate or champion white men and binary gender against a “social justice worker” sort of “liberal” movement and/or against the white men in charge of Frankfurt School? Are you mocking the position of the conservative radio pundit or some other celebrity position?

  2. smj

    the creature from satellite beach is one of the sickest narrative devices i’ve ever come across, thank you ab. its like something from naomi mithison’s, jbs’ crazy sister, psiencefiction…

    nymag.com…
    en.m.wikipedia.org…
    en.m.wikipedia.org…

    …this ain’t about left/right paradigms and gender confusion it’s about transhumanism (a word julian huxley taught us to say) and eugenics (a word darwin’s cousin taught us to say).

    “Fundamental ideas of transhumanism were first advanced in 1923 by the British geneticist J. B. S. Haldane in his essay Daedalus: Science and the Future, which predicted that great benefits would come from applications of advanced sciences to human biology—and that every such advance would first appear to someone as blasphemy or perversion, “indecent and unnatural”. In particular, he was interested in the development of the science of eugenics, ectogenesis (creating and sustaining life in an artificial environment), and the application of genetics to improve human characteristics, such as health and intelligence.
    His article inspired academic and popular interest. J. D. Bernal, a crystallographer at Cambridge, wrote The World, the Flesh and the Devil in 1929, in which he speculated on the prospects of space colonization and radical changes to human bodies and intelligence through bionic implants and cognitive enhancement.[14] These ideas have been common transhumanist themes ever since.[2]
    The biologist Julian Huxley is generally regarded as the founder of transhumanism, after he used the term for the title of an influential 1957 article. The term itself, however, derives from an earlier 1940 paper by the Canadian philosopher W. D. Lighthall.[15] Huxley describes transhumanism in these terms:
    Up till now human life has generally been, as Hobbes described it, ‘nasty, brutish and short’; the great majority of human beings (if they have not already died young) have been afflicted with misery… we can justifiably hold the belief that these lands of possibility exist, and that the present limitations and miserable frustrations of our existence could be in large measure surmounted… The human species can, if it wishes, transcend itself—not just sporadically, an individual here in one way, an individual there in another way, but in its entirety, as humanity.[16]
    Huxley’s definition differs, albeit not substantially, from the one commonly in use since the 1980s. The ideas raised by these thinkers were explored in the science fiction of the 1960s, notably in Arthur C. Clarke’s 2001: A Space Odyssey, in which an alien artifact grants transcendent power to its wielder.[17]
    Japanese Metabolist architects produced a manifesto in 1960 which outlined goals to “encourage active metabolic development of our society”[18] through design and technology. In the Material and Man section of the manifesto, Noboru Kawazoe suggests that:
    After several decades, with the rapid progress of communication technology, every one will have a “brain wave receiver” in his ear, which conveys directly and exactly what other people think about him and vice versa. What I think will be known by all the people. There is no more individual consciousness, only the will of mankind as a whole.[19]”
    en.m.wikipedia.org…

    butwhatever, the creature is into spaceships and the genome; and her inspiration was into spaceships and particle accelerators. his name was gerard o’neill and he invented the particle storage ring. dude made szilards accelerator idea even better we’re told…

    en.m.wikipedia.org…
    en.m.wikipedia.org…

    …his magick allowed make-believe particles to reach synchrotron/relativistic energies so hustlers like luis fuckin’ alvarez could pretend to detect quarks with his fancy data analysis. bytheway, jd bernal gave us the bernal sphere in ‘the world made flesh’…

    en.m.wikipedia.org…

    …o’neill would use bernal sphere-like bullshit in his silly space colonization tales that inspired the creature from satellite beach. bernal taught maggie thatcher’s mentor, dorothy hodgkins, in the hustlin’ art of crystal scrying…

    en.m.wikipedia.org…
    www.theguardian.com…

    …that creature ran o’neill’s satellite company before it founded sirius…

    “O’Neill founded Geostar Corporation to develop a satellite position determination system for which he was granted a patent in 1982.[64] The system, primarily intended to track aircraft, was called Radio Determination Satellite Service (RDSS).[51] In April 1983 Geostar applied to the FCC for a license to broadcast from three satellites, which would cover the entire United States. Geostar launched GSTAR-2 into geosynchronous orbit in 1986. Its transmitter package permanently failed two months later, so Geostar began tests of RDSS by transmitting from other satellites.[65] With his health failing, O’Neill became less involved with the company at the same time it started to run into trouble.[66] In February 1991 Geostar filed for bankruptcy and its licenses were sold to Motorola for the Iridium satellite constellation project.[67] Although the system was eventually replaced by GPS, O’Neill made significant advances in the field of position determination.[66]”
    en.m.wikipedia.org…

    “In 1984, she was retained by Rene Anselmo, founder of Spanish International Network, to implement her PanAmSat MBA thesis as a new company that would compete with the global telecommunications satellite monopoly, Intelsat. In 1986, she discontinued her astronomy studies and consulting work to become the full-time CEO of Geostar Corporation, under William E. Simon as Chairman. She left Geostar in 1990 to create both WorldSpace and Sirius Satellite Radio. She left Sirius in 1992 and WorldSpace in 1997 to become the full-time Chairwoman and CEO of United Therapeutics.[14]
    Rothblatt is responsible for launching several communications satellite companies, including the first private international spacecom project (PanAmSat, 1984), the first global satellite radio network (WorldSpace, 1990), and the first non-geostationary satellite-to-car broadcasting system (Sirius Satellite Radio, 1990).[15] Rothblatt helped pioneer airship internet services with her Sky Station project in 1997, together with Alexander Haig.[16] [17] She then successfully led the effort to get the US Federal Communications Commission (FCC) to allocate frequencies for airship-based internet services.[18]
    As an attorney-entrepreneur, Rothblatt was also responsible for leading the efforts to obtain worldwide approval, via new international treaties, of satellite orbit/spectrum allocations for space-based navigation services (1987) and for direct-to-person satellite radio transmissions (1992). She also led the International Bar Association’s biopolitical project to develop a draft Universal Declaration on the Human Genome and Human Rights for the United Nations (whose final version was adopted by the UNESCO on November 11, 1997, and endorsed by the United Nations General Assembly on December 9, 1998).[5] [19]”
    en.m.wikipedia.org…

    …o’neill’s bullpsience would give us cern and its god particle and the wellcome fuckin’ trust’s diamond light source that pretends to crystal scry. the hustle’s blatant. here’s the famous fabian/labor party theme song keyboard player and psicommunicatin’ theoretical particle physicist at cern admission that all particle physics is nothing but code. smart guys are the most gullible of apes. school is deception and whatnot…

    www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p028kk24…

    …and ab tell the humble comedian guy about ken ‘the masters of disasters’ feinberg. that’ll link his jfk fetish to 911 and all the other infamous drills.

    1. Hoi PolloiHoi Polloi

      Thank you once again for your research. I wish more people could understand and see the hustle that you talk about. This is how the world works! And maybe, we can hope, if more are aware of what you write … it doesn’t have to be.

  3. Jack33Jack33

    I always enjoy listening to Hoi.

    I’ve been hoping for some time now that he and Simon would create a highly polished version of September Clues, one that might be more easily digested by the sleeping masses. A segment dedicated to Hoi’s Vicsims research is also a must.

    A professionally narrated film with a high production value would increase it’s appeal ten fold imo. I’d be happy to contribute what I could afford if I knew they’d do it.

    Peace,
    Jack

    1. Hoi PolloiHoi Polloi

      Thank you for your kinds words, Jack33.

      I have proposed this idea to Simon but he convinced me that making something too familiar to movie going audiences will actually backfire on any goals of helping people become cognizant of how media artistry manipulates our psychology.

      In other words, an update would be welcome and Simon and I have talked about making some kind of thing like that when he is ready to release his system theory and has more time to return to 9/11 research, but a highly “produced”-looking September Clues update could make people overly comfortable in their mode of passive absorption of entertainment rather than inspiring people to research and sense the world for themselves.

      On the other hand, if we hear from enough people that the correct solution would be to make a “professional” looking thing, I suppose we could try it as long as it remained very “down to Earth” and in the spirit of awakening people. You know, ‘September Clues’ was so fresh that it was almost obscure the moment it became famous, and then it was kept that way by a series of agents (still at work, we might observe) constantly trying to discredit and shy people away from its points.

      Making any sort of update would perhaps by necessity involve the best re-examination of all the material … and still be distilled in a rational way that isn’t sensational or alarmist or any other -ism that is the common trappings of modern entertainment. I think references to good research can be incorporated into conventional entertainment and we should push for that kind of thing with connected people, maybe? As artists and creative types, can we also try to just get the word out any way we can by incorporating it in our endeavors, whatever they may be?

      But I don’t know, I guess you could write Simon if you were interested in his take on what a ‘September Clues’ update would look like. His contact is the same as ever: septemberclues.info…

      1. Jack33Jack33

        Hoi,

        Thanks for taking the time to respond.

        I contacted Simon with the request back in Sept of 2015, here was his response:

        Hi Jack,

        Thanks for your supportive words – and yes, Hoi Polloi and I (Hoi is currently visiting my here in Italy) we are actually thinking of making – time and inspiration permitting – a narrated / corrected / shortened remake version of September Clues.
        I’ll let you know if and when I’ll put together this new SC version including, of course, the all-important ‘Vicsims’ topic.

        very best regards

        Simon

        Sounds like a definite maybe to me!

        Don’t underestimate what a project like this could do. You and Simon have the potential to reach and wake up millions -you could change the tide, and the world if enough people see what you two uncovered.

        Make it happen Hoi.

        Warm regards,
        Jack

        1. Hoi PolloiHoi Polloi

          That is great, I am glad you are reminding him about it, too. Thanks for doing that! You have definitely been an encouragement. Thank you again for making it clear that there could be a demand for this that could do some good. He’s got a lot going on — a definitive “September Clues” book is somewhere on his plate too! But I would definitely advocate for this … cool, cool. The question is: When can we do this?!

          🙂

          1. Jack33Jack33

            How about as soon as possible.?

            Look what “Loose Change” was able to do.That movie was partlially responsible for waking me and a dozen of my friends up and it’s total misdirection, although we didn’t know it at the time. My point is, with the right vehicle you could potentially see the same thing happen, except this time the information would be correct.

            Trust me on this one Hoi.

            Jack

  4. davieb

    at the 57:00 minute mark they start talking about terrorist attack in London
    and then they said ” what would be the fakeologists take on all of this”” are those all actors” “transgendered actors”

    at that point i shouted at my tablet YES, YES,
    now you 2 idiots got it

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