MFT003-Real News f Markus Allen

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Another edition of Masterfake theater, with new intro and outro.

This audio is from March 11, 2012.

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31 thoughts on “MFT003-Real News f Markus Allen

  1. UnrealUnreal

    “i’m definitely not a ‘figure’ in this scene like those you mention”
    -Dante from NY

    I’ve written articles (forum topic) on fake layman researchers such as Marcus Allen, Chris Kendall and John Adams – but none of the postings really go into detail about the sock puppet accounts that often comes wrapped with these intelligence operations.

    A straightforward sign ‘Dante from NY’ is a character narrated by Marcus Allen is the fact this alias only pops up whenever Marcus Allen is mentioned and merely rehashes the same talking points from a third party perspective. Allen has of course been singled out for this behavior on Fakeologist before, so no surprise.

    Just as the mainstream media use false testimonies from haphazard street interviewees and fake random caller-inners – so is the case for contrived conspiracy outlets who use the very same tactics.

    NotSoFreeMason, who acquired moderator status on this site, is another type of sock puppet fan – who requires more time to uncover than one-trick pony’s such as ‘Dante’.

    As Dante is played by Allen – noise might follow as Dante-Allen honor his lies and play them full volume. This case alone is not really that noteworthy but illustrates how imbued of their own character some intelligence operators will get.

    I do agree that we should try to focus on information* – and in this regard it is important to include how the large amount of fake truthers represent an important fact in its own merit – especially given the covert nature of any conspiracy and intelligence operation.

    *information on fake truthers:

    Controlled Academic Opposition (1 Aug 2018)
    allunreal.com…

    The Conference Con (28 Jul 2018)
    allunreal.com…

    Fakeologist forum topic – The Conspiracy Conspiracy (14 Jul 2018)
    fakeologist.com…

    The Conspiracy Conspiracy (10 Jul 2018)
    allunreal.com…

    Conspiracy Gatekeeping (29 Jun 2018)
    allunreal.com…

    1. dante

      A straightforward sign ‘Dante from NY’ is a character narrated by Marcus Allen is the fact this alias only pops up whenever Marcus Allen is mentioned and merely rehashes the same talking points from a third party perspective. Allen has of course been singled out for this behavior on Fakeologist before, so no surprise.

      i ask you again, would a phone call / discord call with me cause you to retract this statement?

      “Just as the mainstream media use false testimonies from haphazard street interviewees and fake random caller-inners – so is the case for contrived conspiracy outlets who use the very same tactics.”

      false equivalence fallacy

      “NotSoFreeMason, who acquired moderator status on this site, is another type of sock puppet fan – who requires more time to uncover than one-trick pony’s such as ‘Dante’.”

      would this moderator be able to see login locations / ip addresses were markus and myself to be logged in at the same time?

      “As Dante is played by Allen – noise might follow as Dante-Allen honor his lies and play them full volume. This case alone is not really that noteworthy but illustrates how imbued of their own character some intelligence operators will get.”

      i was initially flattered to be considered an intelligence operator, but the more i read from you the more unintelligent you sound – hence the accolade has lost its luster.

        1. UnrealUnreal

          We can all be wrong.

          My opinion of Dante is of course a side issue that now unfortunately follows a recogniseable pattern which is contrary to how at least i would react, as i’m more focused on topics than on personal opinions.

          If someone want to hold the opinion i’m a bad researcher and/or not who i claim, i would’t be the least bothered or confrontational – this is how liars usually react, they obsess over protecting their contrived story.

          As the webmaster of Fakeologist you (Ab) have nevertheless mentionned on air before that Markus Allen has used multiple aliases on your site before – is that correct or is my recollection faulty ?

      1. UnrealUnreal

        i ask you again, would a phone call / discord call with me cause you to retract this statement?

        Funny you should mention that phonecall – Markus Allen sent me a similar request just over a month ago. This would make it possible for all three of us to meet up together at the same time and have an honest conversation.

        If you can check with Markus and send me both your availabilities, then i suggest we all meet up next week on my Discord server (here) and record the audio. How does that sound ?

  2. xileffilex

    This one doesn’t seem to be on Brian S’s youtube stream yet…

    it’s a bit distracting to listen to a chat with Luke Rodwell [where did he go to?] with Cluesforum playing in on the screen, but they get into the photoshopping of photos towards the end, after 29m. At 30.15, LR brings up the image of Geoff Campbell, who has been discussed here and at LRF, where his brother came out to play and supplied a a private photo there.
    Brian asks why the families would put up with these blatantly photoshopped images of their “deceased loved one” [or I might add fuzzy or unflattering images] for official memorials. The reason I can think of is that the relatives are in on the faked death. It’s interesting that as time goes on, and the “deceased” change their appearance over time and become less recognisable in the street/on the island, the “surviving” loved ones are more relaxed about sharing unseen images of their reassigned “loved one” on facebook from their pre-9/11 [or other #NDNGH hoax] lives.

  3. Faye

    I am a little disappointed by Markus Allen. He joined Fakeologist Discord to talk with us and left without a trace.

    I have so many questions for him concerning the first years after 9/11, as he said he was an active truther from the beginning…

  4. xileffilex

    @56:15 et seq
    Marcus Allen “Here’s what’s really interesting – my college room-mate, his new wife had a brother that allegedly died on 9/11….. someone on your chat right now whose cousin died ….what was your cousin’s name….. his name is Michael Berkeley and his wife is in fact widowed and his sons without a father…”
    and it goes on…
    “Chris Kendall, a guy I talk to a lot…
    Hmmmm

    er right, his college room mate was married…with a new [second?] wife. Sounds like fun.
    But thanks anyway to Marcus for injecting Berkeley [there was also another UK fictim in 9/11 called Berkeley] into the discussion.
    Michael Berkeley had an extended family which I have just researched, and will post my findings in the 9/11 derailing room thread.

    Steve Warran has already pointed to some funny goings on with the Berkeley bio
    stevenwarran.blogspot.com…
    indeed, there was a very curious correction over 7 months after the original obituary….
    www.nytimes.com…

    Thanks to many recent facebook uploads, there is much more evidence to support the existence of Michael Berkeley, on top of credible past life friends and witnesses who have posted online tributes. Who is in the loop in the family is another matter, the “ex” wife, the two sons, his ex-Naval commander brother now in Canada…..I can’t prove that John O Uhlendahl was yet another cousins, but he seems to have nested at Uhlendal Capital, although his own existence on the “79th floor” of WTC1 with his own offshoot company seems scripted. More anon.

    BTW who iis Marcus’ room mate? Why doesn’t Marcus name that 9/11 vicsim??

    1. xileffilex

      I have analysed the complex Berkeley family here. which contains some hitherto unseen family photos from their recent facebook exchanges. Yet, for some reason, common with many “victims”, only a single photo is ever provided to the co-conspiratorial MSM.

      1. UnrealUnreal

        The link for your (xileffilex) analyses of the Berkeley family is not working…

        It is precious to highlight the early lies by the Masterfake Theater talkshow hosts. One of the tricks to fool the audience and lend credit to these fake grassroots researchers was apparently to have some form of direct link to the 9/11 event – such as knowing a victim (in some form or fashion) or being in NY on D-day.

        Maybe we should make a list of the 9/11 talking heads who knew victims or were present in NY while the towers dustified ?

        ===
        •Marcus Allen
        •BS Stavely
        •David Weiss
        •Richard Grove
        •Ricky Vaughn
        … and others i’m sure
        ===

        Regarding the false testimonies from 9/11 there is a classic Fakeologist show where Hoi Polloi and Kham pretty much expose David Weiss lying about his ‘Close Encounter of the 9/11 Kind‘.

        1. Brian-StaveleyBrian-Staveley

          I see I made your list!! What Do I win?? Just to clarify for everyone what 9/11 “Victim” have I claimed to know personally or when did I ever say I was in NYC on 9/11???

          Nonsense.

          Never said I was there or knew a victim. I know they SAID there was a victim form nearby John Ogonowski but I have many times in depth laid out how his death is a complete fraud. I went and got all types of records including tax records on his property, conflicting reports in media from his kids on how long they resided in the next town. So please enlighten me on why specifically I made your list here..

          1. Faye

            Brian, where did you study broadcasting (you said this in your interview on Kevin Smith radio, February 29, 2012) ?

            You also said there, that you worked for one year as a sports broadcaster for the red socks. Which station or radio network was that?

            Your “The Last American Radio Broadcast” started in February 2012. When and how did you find fakeologist?

            Thank you genuinly for an answer to these questions.
            I actually would like to talk with you about the discussion on Cluesforum which i have read and which in fact leaves many questions about your trustworthyness but i am not sure you would like to talk with me. But if so, let me know.

            1. xileffilex

              Some gems in that Kevin Smith interview e.g.
              @9:26
              BSS:

              “They don’t want you wandering around in Truthville
              so they set up all these shops and every shop has a little bit of the truth…if you wander around by yourself you might find out what is happening…”

              Which I think neatly sums up the “Conspiracy conspiracy” [q.v.]

            2. Brian-StaveleyBrian-Staveley

              When will these childish games end. Actually all you do by repeating that nonsense is make yourself either look like a terrible researcher and just a fanboy. What suspicious things ?Hoi drawing red boxes on my pics? How about for starters they call me a simulation with an automated voice on the radio. Right there does it even matter what comes next??? Simulation. I had Simon on my show for a back and forth conversation for hours months before that and I take LIVE calls on the air. Its rather absurd. Accussations form ppl who have hardly any images of themselves online. I supplied access to hundreds of photos of mine. Then they were called FAKE. Really makes the vicsims stuff (which I do believe) look bad honestly. O provided VIDEO of me at the celtics games and other places witht hese same “Fake Friends ” as I was told. I will offer you the same I offered Hoi. Call in if you wanna speak to me. Let’s do it in front of everyone and you can air all my dirty laundry. But… Firt how about you tell me your school, hometown, graduating year and place of employment.

              Who are you the IRS???

              BTW this simulation does all his shows live on video now. You should see the technology. NASA would be jealous.

              1. dante

                everyone seems suspicious of this person or that person.

                seriously, what difference does it make? focus on the information / evidence / argument(s) – not the person.

                i have considerably more respect for people in this scene who put their faces out there to accompany their ‘beliefs’ – oftentimes controversial beliefs.

                those who throw nebulous accusations from the peanut gallery rarely exhibit a willingness to go live full frontal for a QA.

                “we” are a fractional minority of people in this world who can see obvious mass deception, and yet it seems the majority of this minority are more obsessed with speculative minutiae about some of this minority than working toward putting the jigsaw pieces together into a coherent picture of ‘reality’

                and how ironic that it’s usually the ones who put their name and reputation out there for scrutiny – both to general population and the ‘conspiracy community’ that get the most judgment / accusations.

                what a shame : /

            3. Faye

              Thank you, Brian for answering my comment. I understand that you do not want to publish your ex employer and the institution where you studied.

              Here my take:

              -You left a job as a sports radio guy after you watched a film about 9/11 which inspired you to do broadcasts about that topic.

              -You implemented your 9/11 output in the surroundings of general conspiracy “culture”, aliens conventions, etc.

              -You were interviewed by Lord Fetzer.

              -You opened an fb account and uploaded images from your full past alleged biography, including an image of an alleged car accident, whose image is 100pc fake.

              -You uploaded images of yourself, which are 100pc manipulated including signs of manipulation, which were used from the perps for the creation of images for the alleged victims of 9/11: piecing, masking, doubling, backrounds, etc.

              -You were suspected to be an artificial character – a simulated persona – and you did not convince BECAUSE your images are in fact manipulated and they are manipulated BECAUSE that was your intention: to trigger the discussion on cluesforum about faked personas – or sims.

              And here is my speculation:

              -You were a full professional radio guy and you were already in the general conspiracy “culture” which is a known terrain for the recruiting of fake activists of all kind.

              – You left your job, because you got offered a better one, to discredit the 9/11 research about the fake victims. Still to this day, by all its possible errors, (which we do not know yet because almost nobody is researching the topic) the only full research, with full analysis and results stating that 9/11 was a military psyop which did not have any losses of life, is the Vicsim Report by Hoi Polloi.

              -Becoming a member of cluesforum and having obviously manipulated images was your method to create controversy about the legitimacy of the analysis of manipulated images by cluesforum and especially Hoi Polloi.

              -The reason why you did not answer the legitimate questions of cluesforum about your manipulated images is, that since you are not a simulated character but a real guy with a mic on googlehangout, cluesforum and the author of the Vicsim Report are discredited.

              I have no closing words this time.

        2. UnrealUnreal

          The suggestion for the above list was to unite those alternative researchers who knew victims personally or or one/two persons removed (in addition to those like Grove who were in NY that day – or supposed to be).

          I hope you agree that such a list could be a good way to measure up the memes used by 9/11 researchers who we must suspect mostly have been, and still are (ie J Wood, J Fetzer) part of State and Military intelligence (article, forum topic).

          The reason i put down your name (BS Staveley) was that skimming through some old show you did with now deceased 9/11 researcher Justin Cooke – i thought you mentionned knowing a person whose brother/family member died on 9/11.

          I have not listened to many of your (BS) shows other than on Fakeologist (FAK209, FAK171, FAK67, FAK61, FAK13), so if you have not expressed personal knowledge of a 9/11 victim, you should effectively not be on the list.

          ===
          •Marcus Allen

          •David Weiss
          •Richard Grove
          •Ricky Vaughn
          •Sibel Edmonds
          [ list to expand/correct ]
          ===

          Right now of course the list is just a suggestion for research, as there are many researchers who specialize in 9/11 on Fakeologist. In a way, the list is not meant for me to decide upon, but for Fakeologists members to expand on and correct.

          1. dante

            i’m definitely not a ‘figure’ in this scene like those you mention, but i will put myself into the ring and claim there’s a an alleged victim whom i am two persons removed from i suppose.

            Linda Gronlund – flight 93.

            i am essentially certain she existed in ‘real life’. dead? no clue. but was never seen again in her hometown community, unless perhaps clandestinely to visit her mom and sis.

            that scenario enters truman show speculation, which i’m open to, but if we are serious about trying to figure out how the whole charade works, i think it’s appropriate to follow the trail wherever it leads. and not be too committed to a NDNGH paradigm regardless of how silly the footage we saw on tv is.

            1. xileffilex

              i will put myself into the ring and claim there’s a an alleged victim whom i am two persons removed from i suppose.
              Linda Gronlund – flight 93.
              i am essentially certain she existed in ‘real life’. dead? no clue. but was never seen again in her hometown community, unless perhaps clandestinely to visit her mom and sis.

              my first effort since joining Fak will be to show that Linda Gronlund – an alleged victim of flight 93 – was not a fake human. this i’m quite certain of. i doubt many will be convinced…

              I might be…
              C’mon, you’ve been promising that for two weeks. I can’t wait, and I am fabulously relaxed if Gronlund turns out to be real. Everyone I have researched among 9/11 fictims also turns out to be real too. Post on the derailing forum here please since these revelations always upset the Vicsim report apple cart.

  5. UnrealUnreal

    “If you have a suggestion for MFT, please email me or message me on discord.”

    I would suppose the offer for suggestions also would hold for a comment to this post ?

    Maybe a warning about the dubious nature of the “masterfake theater” presenters being most likely fake themselves would be a useful addition for newcomers to Conspiracy Theory and a welcome reminder to more seasonned researchers who easily forget how deception comes wrapped with at least a good portion of conspiracy candy (article).

    A show to possibly include in the MTF series is Ace Baker suiciding live on air with James Fetzer – another classic show with fake alternative reasearchers who much like Stavelie, Jayhan and Allen might deliver bits and pieces of information useful to some at their various stages of alternative development.

    1. UnrealUnreal


      The Ace baker suicide* happened on air with James Fetzer on his “Real Deal” show of January 6th 2009. The complete show does no longer figure on Fetzer’s website, and the original show seem to only figure on “Check The Evidence”.

      Ace Baker Returns, The Real Deal, January 6th 2009 (audio here)
      www.checktheevidence.com……

      Ace Baker’s FAKE on-air suicide on Jim Fetzer show (Jan 6, 2009)
      WelcomeToKilltown – 6 Jan 2009 – 02:00 (mm:ss) – 9.848 views
      youtu.be/oK9876dk_zg…

      *Ace Baker also did a memorable post-suicide interview with John Friend in 2013 on The Realist Report (audio here)

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