FAK213-Matti

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When? Nov 27, 2018 @ 1930 EST

Who? Matti, fakeologist from Germany

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  1. Tom DalpraTom Dalpra

    UNreal said – ” anyone would be mindblown to think any operative would welcome research that expose their lies and deception. So no – the More Carrion thread was not what whoever-Adams-is would like to see happen.”

    No, that’s too simplistic in this case and misses the point . John Adams planted an obviously questionable (with hooks -the 33, the Carion, roadkill pun ) death here at Fakeologist and said ”that is a real death” KNOWING that people would look into it.
    By only then having it ‘exposed’ could the faux drama of his exit make sense, which was his plan all along. Of course he wanted the story to be ‘exposed’.

    1. UnrealUnreal

      In a sense you are right if you stop with Dave J.

      Much as any CIA case, Dave J produced a non-factual video straight out of nowhere very fast. Thereafter he did zero written research. I suppose this case was supposed to be closed by Dave J who i suspect in this case to be deceptive and untruthful.

      However, as research wasn’t stopped as it normally is when the CIA catch the arab terrorist some hours after the explosion – i do think the following scrutiny was unwanted, and that Adams really WAS annoyed as the Carrion research went on and unfolded more cases and suspicion of mediahoaxes and fake deaths in its trails.

      So – this is why i still believe the Carrion case became annoying to Adams, all while he probably preplanned this exit, just like his buddy Chris with no phone, internet or electricity (sure…). Adams thought his “bomb” would go down without a forum thread – and with only a supressed YT video stored on one of Dave J’s lost hard drives.

      1. Tom DalpraTom Dalpra

        Mmm ok. From my position there wasn’t really any doubt that Davej was some kind of ‘wrongun’ from long before he even arrived at Fakeologist.
        Not only had he produced a vast amount of bullshit, including, among much madness, Tony A is Tony B and Benet Ramsey is Cher, or something, but he’d also been quoted in the mainstream media doing so.

        When Davej did arrive here I made several posts stating the facts and my position – ‘Dave’s is dodgy’ – but at least twice in posts here you defended him as an ‘interesting researcher’.
        You weren’t the only one and I’m not saying that means you must really be on his side, but at least we can say it is clear that you’ve had a turnaround regarding your view of Davej and that you were taken-in by him and defended him until relatively recently.

        On the Carrion thread, you may be right that John genuinely didn’t welcome it and did genuinely ask Ab to remove it thinking he would, but I personally doubt it. Why would he leave such a juicy story there for all to peruse and NOT expect some research to be done on it. He knew he couldn’t stop people.
        That was part of the idea of the plant, as I see it : to stir people up and get them running down the wrong road.

        John’s story that his wife was upset and the thread was upsetting him seems a load of old bollocks to me. That was just his excuse for leaving.

  2. xileffilex

    i’m inclined to believe Ab Irato actually did receive incentive to take down the Annette Carrion thread

    OH! Why’s that? Over to Ab then.

    I won’t get in the way for those who find exposing the umpteenth copycat mediahoax drill of the uttermost importance. I do not share such a monotone mediahoax focus however, and have more interest in the bigger picture which is more compatible with understanding intelligence infiltration of the inner circles of conspiracy research than uncovering the Photoshop technique in the latest HDRPAR.

    If anything is a distraction, i vote Humboldt Broncos bus crash anytime. Exposing the Conspiracy Conspiracy is in a bigger picture interest much more insightful,

    OK Each to their own. I find analysing what they’re up to and how they do it quite rewarding, just as I like listening to Ole Dammegard proving for the nth time he’s a gatekeeper **in the CC realm.

    The Humboldt crash was perhaps the biggest provable [based on the visual and verbal “evidence”] fake death *** drill in Canada ever. Yet what have we really proved about the list of CC names? Even KHam and her suspicious failure to come back to the witness stand after November 13?

    ** paid/unpaid, I don’t really care.
    *** quite a big picture in itself and one which we really know very little about, and an area which has been well fenced off by gatekeepers.

    1. UnrealUnreal

      As you say Xileffilex, we all have our preferences and focus.

      It is therefore very good that you prove both Tom Dalpra & myself wrong as you were one of very few Fakeologists who did major research on both the Annette Carrion case AND the Humboldt Broncos bus crash.

      There is a world of difference between a paid intelligence operator and “an upaid shill” with is motivation, planning, means and structure. What does it cost to organise a HDRPAR and why would anyone partake in it if there are no financial benefit ?

      So when it comes to defining who does what and for which reason – paid and unpaid agents just are not the same. It is the difference between a goalkeeper that can’t do save and one who can – but won’t… *

      On a general basis, anyone who spend hundreds of hours on air publicly and turn out to be controlled opposition is forcibly paid – regardless of the quality of their contributions or math skills.

      *intelligence field operators who infiltrate communities like Fakeologists are of course paid and what they do is not only deception, but also betrayal as they have worked their crown to earn their trust first with lies and untruths. In order to mimick us as a crowd these individuals invent a whole set of biographical strongpoints they craft in order to reflect what they think is their audience – like commuters, loosers and the finacially challenged

      1. xileffilex

        Fair points, but is everybody on your CC list a paid agent? We will never know.
        I have never had an answer of any kind from JLB when I have pointed out – and it must be obvious to him – that there are entities on the internet who spend inordinate amounts of time defending the MSM narrative of any HRDPAR and attacking those who question it. I’ll say it for the nth time, it’s a strange unpaid hobby.
        What about Ab, though, since you brought him up?

      2. UnrealUnreal

        The Conspiracy Conspiracy list of Truther outlets is an open spreadsheets for everyone to contribute, and many entries in the list are made from suggestions in the dedicated FAK forum topic – and several really interesting outlets in the list actually comes from you (Xileffilex) !

        At the time of the last version, the TCC spreadsheet featured 300+ radios and podcasts, 70+ conferences and 25+ media networks (available here).

        You are right that we cannot be certain every outlet and Truther that figure in the TCC sheets are paid intelligence operators, but out of the selection that i have studied more closely (Dose of Reality, The Higherside Chats, Red Ice Radio, Corbett Report, Gnostic Media, The Real Deal, Light On Conspiracies, Our Interesting Times), my assessment is that all these broadcasts are of intelligence origin, led by (paid) intelligence field operators.

        TCC spreadsheets
        allunreal.com…

        Regarding your question about Ab, i’m not sure i brought his case up in relation to paid intelligence operators or the Conspiracy Conspiracy. I guess you ask to know my opinion regardless, and in my view Ab is not part of Intelligence – as far as i know today. I do disagree with Ab on several issues* which on this open Fakeologist platform is accepted – which is rare.

        In a way, even though K Hammad and J Adams have proven to be couvert intelligence operatives as far recent research suggest – these cases do not annilate the unique open platform Ab has created with Fakeologist. But sure – i would hope Ab did take intelligence infiltration more seriously and would consider tightening up his stance and at the least not promote known suspects such as JLB and BS but rather distance the platform from known TCC elements.

        *one issue that has come up lately would be the BS audio with Paolo Waolo where i hear likeness to Ab – and comes across as a prank call

  3. xileffilex

    Yes a good chat. Near the end, the subject of the continuation of the self-perpetuating, secret, faking state, above elected government , was raised
    Obviously our elected [not by me…] politicians need to know what the above are up to, so they can act outrage/grief in front of the dispatch box or TV screens. One wonders what the real function of the Privy Council is – for a body which seems to meet occasionally and carry out mind-numbingly boring work, like the closure of cemeteries, I am surprised how many current politicians have piled into it [or been told to join the club to make sure they don’t blab]
    privycouncil.independent.gov…
    A warning bell from the Privy Council’s own website…
    There is therefore nothing at all “secret” about Privy Council meetings. The myth that the Privy Council is a secretive body springs from the wording of the Privy Council Oath, which, in its current form, dates back to Tudor times. It requires those taking it to “keep secret all matters…treated of in Council”. The Oath (or Solemn Affirmation for those who cannot take an Oath) is still administered, and is still binding; but it is only in very special circumstances nowadays that matters will come to a Privy Counsellor on “Privy Council terms”. These will mostly concern matters of the national interest where it is important for senior members of Opposition parties to have access to Government information.
    source
    ..as if non-PC members of the governing party are “in on it”….they’re probably not, just useful elected idiots rubbing shoulders with the keepers of the secrets.
    Oh sure then, nothing to see here…move along please.
    The Canadian equivalent is…
    en.wikipedia.org…
    again, lots and lots and lots of members… hmmmm

  4. UnrealUnreal

    Good conversation and together with the FAC516 audiochat makes an interesting portrait of a new resourceful Fakeologist member.

    Matti is straightforward about his public persona as well, and together with his author/academic wife (wiki) seems to have a definite media footprint in Germany.

    Some of the conversation did mention characters such as John Adams and AA Morris, but discussing these characters as just “losing their mind” seems a bit misleading when we know how close the intelligence apparatus (who fake media events and stage media hoaxes & PsyOps) are to Conspiracy theory.

    As recent research on both Adams and K Hammad suggests – these two Truthers can hardly be described as having “lost it” in any way, but more so caught with their hand in the cookie jar directly lying (participating) and misinforming about apparent media hoaxes which makes them both part* of the intelligence operation conceived to deceive us.

    Maybe Matti have not taken the time to go through the dedicated treads on Fakeologist in order to question how come long-time Truthers in the end become suspect of being intelligence professionals* who in no way seem to have intellectual or psychological defects, but rather faulty morals and ethics. Doesn’t this bother every genuine truth-seeker, especially as Matti was a fan of Adams ?

    *In my opinion nobody that are part of a mediahoax participate for free, so all the involved parties are de facto paid operators, not clueless unpaid amateur bystanders

    *despite Ab clearly want to stay neutral, the lack of interest in the probable deceptive nature and suspected professional occupation of Adams & Kham on this site is regrettable. If we do not mind discussing intelligence operations everywhere else, why refuse such discussion as it happens in our very own backyard, directly targeting us as Fakeologists and truthseekers ?

    More Carrion (FAK forums)
    The Conspiracy Conspiracy (FAK forums)
    K Shooting (FAK forums)

    1. Tom DalpraTom Dalpra

      Yes, I agree with the first four paragraphs, well said there, UNreal.
      That Matti used JAdams and AAMorris as examples of ‘truther meltdowns’ would seem to miss the rather big point, that those two were, seemingly, just pretending.
      That said, he did preface his comment with words to the effect of ” If we are to believe those stories’.

      On the JAdams meltdown, and the Carion affair, we can be informed, I think, by the timing.
      Remember Canada experienced two major psyops, the biggest two in recent times, perhaps, on 6th April and the 23rd of April 2018. HumboldtHockey and TorontoVan.
      (UNreal) You began your Carrion thread on 5th April 2018, maybe a day or two after JAdams deliberately dropped that obviously questionable case into fakeologist and a day before Humboldt. If you accept, as I think you do, that Adams is some kind of agent then obviously he deliberately planted that story knowing it would be exposed, yeh ? That was obviously all part of the plan.
      All part of the plan too , it seems as discombobulated Fakeologist regulars were thrown a divisive curve ball by Adams , was entrance Davej screaming Spiritual Murderer!! Ha!
      Oh, yeh ?
      What are you calling it The conspiracy conspiracy? The CC, yeh, look at ’em here. This is it, isn’t it?
      These pantomime characters. Explains it all. Just as Humboldt was about to happen. What a distraction.
      The Toronto van attack too was 23rd, you were still making Carion posts as the little Fakeologist community stood a little fragmented. One time again.

      The timing then, with these two Canadian Ops , makes Adams exit and Davej’s entrance seem choreographed and the Carion affair as – at least – a part -deliberate red herring designed to get men following a young lady in tight trousers into oblivion just as one of the wildest Ops to hit Canada in years was carried out…on another road.

      In that instance, as author and leader of the Carion thread here, you were obviously doing what John Adams would have like you to do and therefore must accept, in retrospect, that you were duped a little there?

    2. UnrealUnreal

      Indeed, if we are to believe those stories from J Adams and K Hammad we would just be doing nothing. And that seems to be what is happening*.

      I won’t get in the way for those who find exposing the umpteenth copycat mediahoax drill of the uttermost importance. I do not share such a monotone mediahoax focus however, and have more interest in the bigger picture which is more compatible with understanding intelligence infiltration of the inner circles of conspiracy research than uncovering the Photoshop technique in the latest HDRPAR.

      If anything is a distraction, i vote Humboldt Broncos bus crash anytime. Exposing the Conspiracy Conspiracy is in a bigger picture interest much more insightful, and for evident reasons the puppetmasters behind the fictional character AA is More seem to agree.

      I’m not sure what the fictional entity John Adams would have us do during our commutes – but anyone would be mindblown to think any operative would welcome research that expose their lies and deception. So no – the More Carrion thread was not what whoever-Adams-is would like to see happen.

      I do not trust much these days, but i’m inclined to believe Ab Irato actually did receive incentive to take down the Annette Carrion thread. Good Ab didn’t follow that through for the FAK forums, too bad he accepted to censor other posts and content on the Fakeologist website.

      With K Hammad having been a radiohost on this site, i do believe to have such deceptive characters tied to this site is unbecoming and that we really should show determination as to not accept this type of suspect intelligence oprators to usurpe Fakeologist research activity and get in the way of uncovering intelligence operations. However unconfortable and close to home.

      Silence in this case is the same as acceptance, and will in addition not prevent this type of operators and hoaxers to waste the time and good intentions of the authentic audience who seeks out Fakeologist in search of truth and guidance. Fakeologist should be an exemple of no-nonse discussion and research, thus confronting deception head on, not head under sand.

      *doing nothing about K Hammad is especially damning for Clues Forum where the now exposed “K” still serve as admin posting frugivore diet bliss commetary all silent and unconfronted by her two made up deaths of 2011. CF thus indirectly admit they are fine with mediahoax deception and intelligence operatives in their midst, which clearly tells a story most are unwilling to hear, but that nevertheless confirms itself. Well, for those who do ‘something’ that is.

      [Herunder Redline Ravens memorial tribute page in honour to A.Carrion – who departed only 33 years, 7 months and 7 days old]

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