1893 Disappearance of SS Ironic: Difference between revisions

From Fakeopedia
Jump to navigation Jump to search
VisualWikitext
(new article, we talked about this one on the show)
 
No edit summary
(20 intermediate revisions by 2 users not shown)
Line 1: Line 1:
{| class="wikitable" align=right
{| class="wikitable" align=right
| colspan=2 align=center | <big>'''Disappearance of SS Ironic'''</big>
| colspan=2 align=center | <big>'''Disappearance of SS Naronic'''</big>
|-
|-
| colspan=2 bgcolor=red |
| colspan=2 align=center |
|-
|-
| colspan=2 align=center | ''picture''
| colspan=2 align=center | [[File:Bovic-Naronic.jpg|300px]]
|-
|-
| <small>[[Psyop#Types|Type 1]]</small> || [[boat accident]]
| <small>Official name</small> || align=center | '''The Disappearance of the SS Naronic'''
|-
| <small>[[Psyop#Types|Type 2]]</small> || [[mystery]]
|-
|-
| <small>Year</small> || align=center | [[:Category:1893 psyops|1893]]
| <small>Year</small> || align=center | [[:Category:1893 psyops|1893]]
Line 14: Line 12:
| <small>Date</small> || align=center | [[:Category:02/11 psyops|02/11]]
| <small>Date</small> || align=center | [[:Category:02/11 psyops|02/11]]
|-
|-
| <small>Place</small> || Sailing out of the [[:Category:Psyops in the United Kingdom|United Kingdom]]
| <small>Place</small> || Liverpool
|-
| <small>Numbers</small> || [[11]], [[33]]
|-
| <small>[[Perp]]s<br>(''italic'' is official story)</small> || [[White Star Line]]
|-
| colspan=2 align=center | '''Linked to'''
|-
| • <small>[[]]</small> || • <small>[[Sinking of Titanic]]</small>
|-
| <small>[[Prescriptive programming]]</small> || Yes (Titanic)
|-
|-
| colspan=2 align=center | '''Information'''
| <small>Place</small> || [[:Category:Psyops in the United Kingdom|United Kingdom]]
|-
|-
| [[Fakeologist.com|Fakeologist]] || align=center | <ref name=FakeologistAC402 group="ab">[http://fakeologist.com/blog/2017/12/14/fac402-much-masonry/ Fakeologist.com - Audio Chat 402]</ref>
| <small>Place</small> || [[:Category:Psyops on the Atlantic Ocean|Atlantic Ocean]]
|-
|-
| <small>[[Cluesforum.info|Cluesforum]]</small> || align=center | <small><ref name=CluesforumIronic group="CF">[http://cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=485&p=2395761#p2395761 Cluesforum - SS Ironic] - [[User:Gaia|Gaia]]</ref></small>
| <small>[[Perpetrator]]/s || [[Unknown]]
|-
|-
|}
|}
The '''Disappearance of SS Ironic''' was a [[psyop]] taking place at sea and is about a ship sailing from Liverpool, [[:Category:Psyops in the United Kingdom|United Kingdom]] for [[:Category:Psyops in New York City|New York]], [[:Category:Psyops in the United States|United States]] from February 11, 1893 onwards. Allegedly, the ship was lost at sea and has never been found again.


The only confirmation of the ships "existence" of which no photos are available, comes from alleged life boats seen by another ship and 4 bottles with messages in them allegedly found on several beaches.
==[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Naronic Official summary]==
 
On February 11, 1893 under the command of Captain William Roberts the steamship built by Harland and Wolff in Belfast for the White Star Line SS Naronic sarted her voyage to New York. Naronic had a crew of 50, plus 24 cattlemen to attend to the ship's primary cargo, livestock. After leaving Liverpool, she stopped briefly at Point Lynas, Anglesey, North Wales, to put her pilot ashore before heading west into heavy seas, never to be seen again.
 
Naronic had no wireless telegraph with which to send a distress call (it would be another five years before the Marconi Company opened their factory that produced the system the RMS Titanic used to send her distress signals), so whatever problem she encountered, her crew was on their own. The only knowledge we have of the incident comes from two sources.
 
The [http://www.old-merseytimes.co.uk/NARONIC.html British steamer SS Coventry reported] seeing two of Naronic's empty lifeboats; the first lifeboat, found at 2:00 am on 4 March, was capsized and the second, found at 2:00 pm, was swamped. The first of these was found 19 miles (some sources put this at 90 miles) from the site where the White Star Line's Titanic would later meet a similar fate.
 
==Fakeology Analysis==
 
* [[Fakeologist.com|Fakeologist]]
 
* [[Cluesforum.info|Cluesforum]]
 
* Other
 
*Mainstream links
 
* Wikipedia: The Disappearance of the SS Naronic <ref name=WikiSSNAR1 group="MSM"> [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Naronic Wikipedia: The Disappearance of the SS Naronic] </ref>
 
* Old Mersey Times: Naronic <ref name=OldMersT group="MSM"> [http://www.old-merseytimes.co.uk/NARONIC.html Old Mersey Times: Naronic] </ref>
 
* Shipwreckology: SS Naronic<ref name=ShipNaronic group="MSM">[https://shipwreckology.com/2014/02/11/the-disappearance-of-the-ss-naronic/ Shipwreckology: SS Naronic]</ref>
 
 
==Fakeology Classification==
 
<big>'''[[:Category:Shipping psyops|Shipping psyops]]'''</big><br>
 
==Alleged victims==
 
Allegedly the crew of 50, plus 24 cattlemen died, when the ship sunk. The names of these victims are not registered anywhere.


The psyop was [[prescriptive programming]] for the much larger psyop of the [[Sinking of Titanic|Titanic]], 19 years afterwards and 19 miles from where the SS Naronic, as its official name was, was lost at sea.
==Hoax management==


== Official story ==
==Narrative==
{| class="wikitable" bgcolor=grey
| • SS Naronic was a steamship built by Harland and Wolff in Belfast for the White Star Line. The ship was lost at sea after leaving Liverpool on February 11, 1893 bound for New York, with the loss of all '''74''' people on board. The ship's fate is a mystery that remains unsolved to this day.<br>
• Naronic was launched on May 26, 1892, completed on '''11''' July 1892 and departed for her maiden voyage on 15 July 1892, sailing from Liverpool to New York.<br>
• The '''47'''0 ft, twin screw steamship was designed as a freighter with the addition of limited passenger quarters to handle the increased traffic that White Star was experiencing on its non-New York routes.<br>
• After her first run, Naronic made five more sailings without incident, before departing on what was to be her final voyage on February '''11''', 1893 under the command of Captain William Roberts.<br>
• Naronic had no wireless telegraph with which to send a distress call (it would be another five years before the Marconi Company opened their factory that produced the system the RMS Titanic used to send her distress signals), so whatever problem she encountered, her crew was on their own. The only knowledge we have of the incident comes from two sources.<br>
• The British steamer SS Coventry reported seeing two of Naronic's empty lifeboats; the first lifeboat, found at 2:00 am on 4 March, was capsized and the second, found at 2:00 pm, was swamped. The first of these was found 19 miles (some sources put this at 90 miles) from the site where the White Star Line's Titanic would later meet a similar fate.<br>
• The second source of information are four bottles with messages inside, which were recovered later, that claimed to have been written while Naronic was sinking. Two of the bottles were found in the United States, one on March 3 ['''3-3'''] in Bay Ridge, Brooklyn, New York, and one in Ocean View, Virginia, on March 30 ['''3-3'''].
|-
| align=center | Wikipedia<ref name=WikiSSNaronic group="MSM">[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Naronic Wikipedia - SS Naronic]</ref>
|-
|}


== Analysis ==
==Propaganda==
=== Photos ===
====Memorials====
[https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9b/Bovic-Naronic.jpg Photo 1]
====Movies====
* There seem to be no pictures of SS Naronic, but this is her sister ship Bovic - could it be a SS Titanic-Olympic-Britannic and Ms. Soto & so many 9/11 vicsim (non-existing) sister (ship) case?<ref name=CluesforumIronic group="CF"/>
====Books====
====Other====


=== Other ===
* 4 bottles with messages "found"? @ these dates:<ref name=WhiteStarShipsNaronic group="MSM">[http://www.titanic-whitestarships.com/Naronic.htm What Happened to the Naronic?]</ref>
# 3-3-1893 - "Feb. 19, 1893- Naronic sinking. All hands praying. God have mercy on us." The message was signed "L. Winsel." Could this "L. Winsel" have been John L. Watson, crew member? '''Clare gave the bottle to a Bay Ridge police captain named Kenny (of the 18th precinct) and never heard about it again.'''
# 30-3-1893 - "3:10 AM Feb.19. SS Naronic at sea. To who picks this up: report when you find this to our agents if not heard of before, that our ship is sinking fast beneath the waves. It's such a storm that we can never live in the small boats. One boat has already gone with her human cargo below. God let all of us live through this. We were stuck by an iceberg in a blinding snowstorm and floated two hours. Now it's 3:20 AM by my watch and the great ship is dead level with the sea. Report to the agents at Broadway, New New York, M. Kersey & Company. Goodby all." The message is signed, "John Olsen, Cattleman." '''There is no Olsen on the passenger or crew list list. The closest names to "John Olsen" would be John Watson and John O'Hara, both Cattlemen.'''
# xx-6-1893 - "Stuck iceberg: sinking fast: Naronic" The message is simply signed: "Young" '''There is no" Young" on the passenger or crew list.'''
# 18-9-1893 - "All hands lost; Naronic; No time to say more....T" The message ended or was signed "T" The closest match here is William Tobin, Cattleman or Christopher Tesch, crew member.<ref name=CluesforumIronic group="CF"/>
* '''The disappearance of this steamer created a profound sensation.''' [??]<ref name=AtlanticFerries group="MSM">[https://web.archive.org/web/20080312064541/http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/Wrecks/never.htm 'Never heard of' - Mysteries of the Atlantic ferry]</ref>


== See also ==
== See also ==
* [[List of psyops]]
* [[9/11]]
** [[Sinking of Titanic]] (1912)
* [[Glossary]]
** [[MH370]] (2014)
* [[Main List of psyOps]]
* [[Death of Celebrity Person]]
* [[Space fakery]]
* [[Nuke Hoax]]
* [[Plane crashes]]
* [[Various events]]
 


== References ==
== References ==
Line 77: Line 83:
=== Cluesforum ===
=== Cluesforum ===
<references group="CF"/>
<references group="CF"/>
=== Other ===
<references/>


=== Mainstream links ===
=== Mainstream links ===
<references group="MSM"/>
<references group="MSM"/>
== External links ==
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvAclDuaJSA Top 5 Ships That Have Vanished On The Atlantic]
* [https://mega1912.wordpress.com/2016/03/25/los-barcos-hundidos-de-la-white-star-line/ 13 sunken ships of the White Star Line (es)]


[[Category:1893 psyops]]
[[Category:1893 psyops]]
[[Category:02/11 psyops]]
[[Category:02/19 psyops]]
[[Category:Boat accident psyops]]
[[Category:Mobility control narrative]]
[[Category:Shipping psyops]]
[[Category:Mystery psyops]]
[[Category:Mystery psyops]]
[[Category:Prescriptive programming]]
[[Category:Psyops in the United Kingdom]]
[[Category:Psyops in the United Kingdom]]
[[Category:Psyops on the Atlantic Ocean]]

Revision as of 12:39, 13 July 2018

Disappearance of SS Naronic
File:Bovic-Naronic.jpg
Official name The Disappearance of the SS Naronic
Year 1893
Date 02/11
Place Liverpool
Place United Kingdom
Place Atlantic Ocean
Perpetrator/s Unknown

Official summary

On February 11, 1893 under the command of Captain William Roberts the steamship built by Harland and Wolff in Belfast for the White Star Line SS Naronic sarted her voyage to New York. Naronic had a crew of 50, plus 24 cattlemen to attend to the ship's primary cargo, livestock. After leaving Liverpool, she stopped briefly at Point Lynas, Anglesey, North Wales, to put her pilot ashore before heading west into heavy seas, never to be seen again.

Naronic had no wireless telegraph with which to send a distress call (it would be another five years before the Marconi Company opened their factory that produced the system the RMS Titanic used to send her distress signals), so whatever problem she encountered, her crew was on their own. The only knowledge we have of the incident comes from two sources.

The British steamer SS Coventry reported seeing two of Naronic's empty lifeboats; the first lifeboat, found at 2:00 am on 4 March, was capsized and the second, found at 2:00 pm, was swamped. The first of these was found 19 miles (some sources put this at 90 miles) from the site where the White Star Line's Titanic would later meet a similar fate.

Fakeology Analysis

  • Other
  • Mainstream links
  • Wikipedia: The Disappearance of the SS Naronic [MSM 1]


Fakeology Classification

Shipping psyops

Alleged victims

Allegedly the crew of 50, plus 24 cattlemen died, when the ship sunk. The names of these victims are not registered anywhere.

Hoax management

Narrative

Propaganda

Memorials

Movies

Books

Other

See also


References

Fakeologist


Cluesforum


Other


Mainstream links

  1. ↑ Wikipedia: The Disappearance of the SS Naronic
  2. ↑ Old Mersey Times: Naronic
  3. ↑ Shipwreckology: SS Naronic

External links

Retrieved from "http://fakeologist.com/fakeopedia/index.php?title=1893_Disappearance_of_SS_Ironic&oldid=6886"