http://fakeologist.com/fakeopedia/index.php?title=Talk:Main_list_of_psyops&feed=atom&action=historyTalk:Main list of psyops - Revision history2024-03-29T12:21:35ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.41.0http://fakeologist.com/fakeopedia/index.php?title=Talk:Main_list_of_psyops&diff=8784&oldid=prevGaia1: Gaia1 moved page Talk:Main List of psyOps to Talk:Main list of psyops: correct spelling2019-04-29T01:55:28Z<p>Gaia1 moved page <a href="/fakeopedia/index.php?title=Talk:Main_List_of_psyOps" class="mw-redirect" title="Talk:Main List of psyOps">Talk:Main List of psyOps</a> to <a href="/fakeopedia/index.php?title=Talk:Main_list_of_psyops" title="Talk:Main list of psyops">Talk:Main list of psyops</a>: correct spelling</p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*branding (e.g. Ariana Grande)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*branding (e.g. Ariana Grande)</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Don't know what you mean by branding? Gaia 21:16, 7 January 2018 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Don't know what you mean by branding? Gaia 21:16, 7 January 2018 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:branding means marketing, but im not sure if that is the content of "Manchester Arena Bombing".<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[User:Misom|Misom]] ([[User talk:</del>Misom|talk<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">]]) </del></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:branding means marketing, but im not sure if that is the content of "Manchester Arena Bombing".Misom|talk </div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*propaganda (e.g. 93 WTC bombing)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*propaganda (e.g. 93 WTC bombing)</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Too generic. Gaia 21:16, 7 January 2018 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Too generic. Gaia 21:16, 7 January 2018 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Understand but some productions are indeed propaganda e.g. "Anne Frank Diary". Let's wait for that.<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[User:</del>Misom<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">|Misom]] ([[User talk:Misom|talk]])</del></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Understand but some productions are indeed propaganda e.g. "Anne Frank Diary". Let's wait for that.Misom</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*war on terror (all incidents in that frame)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*war on terror (all incidents in that frame)</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Would use <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[</del>War For Terror<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">]] </del>instead to have unique terminology. Gaia 21:16, 7 January 2018 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Would use War For Terror instead to have unique terminology. Gaia 21:16, 7 January 2018 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Agree actually, but would find it more consistent if we call all incidents just [[terror]] insofar that is what they do, terrorize. With the general term "terror" we avoid also the problem of having to differentiate between culprits, target culprits and such. The perps are anyway the same mas o menos.<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[User:Misom|Misom]] ([[User talk:Misom|talk]])</del></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Agree actually, but would find it more consistent if we call all incidents just [[terror]] insofar that is what they do, terrorize. With the general term "terror" we avoid also the problem of having to differentiate between culprits, target culprits and such. The perps are anyway the same mas o menos.</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*war on drugs (dont know if we have such, but the frame exists)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*war on drugs (dont know if we have such, but the frame exists)</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Would use War For Drugs instead to have unique terminology. Gaia 21:16, 7 January 2018 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Would use War For Drugs instead to have unique terminology. Gaia 21:16, 7 January 2018 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Agree and would make it even smaller <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[</del>drugwar<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">]]</del>.<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[</del>User:Misom|Misom<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">]] </del>(<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[</del>User talk:Misom|talk<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">]]</del>)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Agree and would make it even smaller drugwar.User:Misom|Misom (User talk:Misom|talk)</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*war on communism (all incidents in that frame, e.g. Cuba missiles crisis)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*war on communism (all incidents in that frame, e.g. Cuba missiles crisis)</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Would use an alternative term to <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[</del>Cold War<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">]] </del>instead to have unique terminology. Gaia 21:16, 7 January 2018 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Would use an alternative term to Cold War instead to have unique terminology. Gaia 21:16, 7 January 2018 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Agreed.<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[</del>User:Misom|Misom<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">]] </del>(<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[</del>User talk:Misom|talk<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">]]</del>)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Agreed.User:Misom|Misom (User talk:Misom|talk)</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*covert economic operation (not sure about this one, e.g. Titanic)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*covert economic operation (not sure about this one, e.g. Titanic)</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Would use <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[</del>money scam<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">]] </del>instead. Gaia21:16, 7 January 2018 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Would use money scam instead. Gaia21:16, 7 January 2018 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Agreed.<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[</del>User:Misom|Misom<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">]] </del>(<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[</del>User talk:Misom|talk<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">]]</del>)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Agreed.User:Misom|Misom (User talk:Misom|talk)</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Too generic, needs to be broken down. Gaia 21:16, 7 January 2018 (UTC</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Too generic, needs to be broken down. Gaia 21:16, 7 January 2018 (UTC</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Let's wait for the sheet with proposals out of what we have in the list.<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[</del>User:Misom|Misom<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">]] </del>(<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[</del>User talk:Misom|talk<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">]]</del>)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Let's wait for the sheet with proposals out of what we have in the list.User:Misom|Misom (User talk:Misom|talk)</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>== Comments 7/1/18 Gaia ==</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>== Comments 7/1/18 Gaia ==</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Ok, I understand. But did the Ariana Grande bombing really do a lot to market the brand "Ariana Grande" as even bigger than the Disney teens already saw her? Take it to Las Vegas, did that do "branding" for country music? I wouldn't think so. The main message there imho was "your neighbor can get automatic weapons, go crazy and shoot people with no motive", hence the psyop types there: "mass shooting" and "no motive". We can anyway add more types with commas, like the 1993 WTC bombing one... The HRDPR is good because it is a term Fakeologist came up with. Just as [[DCP]] and <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[</del>BBS<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">]]</del>, they are organic. Would be good to have a general chat about the categories/types of psyops, so we can engage with more people in the discussion, in the end it is a community project. I've added the clear ones as categories, will wait with the others for that deserved discussion. </div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Ok, I understand. But did the Ariana Grande bombing really do a lot to market the brand "Ariana Grande" as even bigger than the Disney teens already saw her? Take it to Las Vegas, did that do "branding" for country music? I wouldn't think so. The main message there imho was "your neighbor can get automatic weapons, go crazy and shoot people with no motive", hence the psyop types there: "mass shooting" and "no motive". We can anyway add more types with commas, like the 1993 WTC bombing one... The HRDPR is good because it is a term Fakeologist came up with. Just as [[DCP]] and BBS, they are organic. Would be good to have a general chat about the categories/types of psyops, so we can engage with more people in the discussion, in the end it is a community project. I've added the clear ones as categories, will wait with the others for that deserved discussion. </div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>== Comments 8/1/18 Faye, Gaia==</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>== Comments 8/1/18 Faye, Gaia==</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Hm...Im not sure, Gaia, but think that the psyops do not have the same '''real''' content even if they have similar parameters. Ariana Grande is possibly marketing but La Vegas is (on first sight) not, although both are HRDPR in the field of entertainment. That is, i think, the purpose of our studies in fakeology :), to deconstruct, interpret, describe and generally produce understanding for the psyops. For my part, i enjoy discussing with you about all this and would enjoy discussions with more others also.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Hm...Im not sure, Gaia, but think that the psyops do not have the same '''real''' content even if they have similar parameters. Ariana Grande is possibly marketing but La Vegas is (on first sight) not, although both are HRDPR in the field of entertainment. That is, i think, the purpose of our studies in fakeology :), to deconstruct, interpret, describe and generally produce understanding for the psyops. For my part, i enjoy discussing with you about all this and would enjoy discussions with more others also.</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Sure, if you deem the Ariana Grande bombing was doing good to her sales just like the DCPs of Michael Jackson, Elvis Aaron Presley and Prince were for their records, ok. But imho that would be a side point. The main points I think are the war for terror and "it can happen to anyone". But you're right, would be good to throw this into the discussion to get more feedback from others.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Sure, if you deem the Ariana Grande bombing was doing good to her sales just like the DCPs of Michael Jackson, Elvis Aaron Presley and Prince were for their records, ok. But imho that would be a side point. The main points I think are the war for terror and "it can happen to anyone". But you're right, would be good to throw this into the discussion to get more feedback from others.</div></td></tr>
</table>Misomhttp://fakeologist.com/fakeopedia/index.php?title=Talk:Main_list_of_psyops&diff=6877&oldid=prevMisom at 16:21, 13 July 20182018-07-13T16:21:57Z<p></p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Hm...Im not sure, Gaia, but think that the psyops do not have the same '''real''' content even if they have similar parameters. Ariana Grande is possibly <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[</del>marketing<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">]] </del>but La Vegas is (on first sight) not, although both are HRDPR in the field of <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[</del>entertainment<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">]]</del>. That is, i think, the purpose of our studies in fakeology :), to deconstruct, interpret, describe and generally produce understanding for the psyops. For my part, i enjoy discussing with you about all this and would enjoy discussions with more others also.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Hm...Im not sure, Gaia, but think that the psyops do not have the same '''real''' content even if they have similar parameters. Ariana Grande is possibly marketing but La Vegas is (on first sight) not, although both are HRDPR in the field of entertainment. That is, i think, the purpose of our studies in fakeology :), to deconstruct, interpret, describe and generally produce understanding for the psyops. For my part, i enjoy discussing with you about all this and would enjoy discussions with more others also.</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Sure, if you deem the Ariana Grande bombing was doing good to her sales just like the DCPs of Michael Jackson, Elvis Aaron Presley and Prince were for their records, ok. But imho that would be a side point. The main points I think are the <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[</del>war for terror<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">]] </del>and "it can happen to anyone". But you're right, would be good to throw this into the discussion to get more feedback from others.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Sure, if you deem the Ariana Grande bombing was doing good to her sales just like the DCPs of Michael Jackson, Elvis Aaron Presley and Prince were for their records, ok. But imho that would be a side point. The main points I think are the war for terror and "it can happen to anyone". But you're right, would be good to throw this into the discussion to get more feedback from others.</div></td></tr>
</table>Misomhttp://fakeologist.com/fakeopedia/index.php?title=Talk:Main_list_of_psyops&diff=6876&oldid=prevMisom at 16:18, 13 July 20182018-07-13T16:18:58Z<p></p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:I would say use the <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[</del>truck attack<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">]]</del>, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[</del>car attack<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">]]</del>, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[</del>plane crash<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">]]</del>, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[</del>train crash<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">]] </del>and <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[</del>boat incident<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">]] </del>ones. <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[User:Gaia|Gaia]] ([[User talk:</del>Gaia<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">|talk]]) </del>21:16, 7 January 2018 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:I would say use the truck attack, car attack, plane crash, train crash and boat incident ones. Gaia 21:16, 7 January 2018 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Don't know what you mean by branding? <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[User:Gaia|Gaia]] ([[User talk:</del>Gaia<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">|talk]]) </del>21:16, 7 January 2018 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Don't know what you mean by branding? Gaia 21:16, 7 January 2018 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[</del>branding<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">]] </del>means <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[</del>marketing<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">]]</del>, but im not sure if that is the content of "Manchester Arena Bombing".[[User:Misom|Misom]] ([[User talk:Misom|talk]]) </div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:branding means marketing, but im not sure if that is the content of "Manchester Arena Bombing".[[User:Misom|Misom]] ([[User talk:Misom|talk]]) </div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Would use [[War For Terror]] instead to have unique terminology. <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[User:</del>Gaia<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">|Gaia]] ([[User talk:Gaia|talk]]) </del>21:16, 7 January 2018 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Would use [[War For Terror]] instead to have unique terminology. Gaia 21:16, 7 January 2018 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Agree actually, but would find it more consistent if we call all incidents just [[terror]] insofar that is what they do, terrorize. With the general term "terror" we avoid also the problem of having to differentiate between culprits, target culprits and such. The perps are anyway the same mas o menos.[[User:Misom|Misom]] ([[User talk:Misom|talk]])</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Agree actually, but would find it more consistent if we call all incidents just [[terror]] insofar that is what they do, terrorize. With the general term "terror" we avoid also the problem of having to differentiate between culprits, target culprits and such. The perps are anyway the same mas o menos.[[User:Misom|Misom]] ([[User talk:Misom|talk]])</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*war on drugs (dont know if we have such, but the frame exists)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*war on drugs (dont know if we have such, but the frame exists)</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Would use [[War For Drugs]] instead to have unique terminology. <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[User:</del>Gaia<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">|Gaia]] ([[User talk:Gaia|talk]]) </del>21:16, 7 January 2018 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Would use [[War For Drugs]] instead to have unique terminology. Gaia 21:16, 7 January 2018 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Agree and would make it even smaller [[drugwar]].[[User:Misom|Misom]] ([[User talk:Misom|talk]])</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Agree and would make it even smaller [[drugwar]].[[User:Misom|Misom]] ([[User talk:Misom|talk]])</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*war on communism (all incidents in that frame, e.g. Cuba missiles crisis)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*war on communism (all incidents in that frame, e.g. Cuba missiles crisis)</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Would use an alternative term to [[Cold War]] instead to have unique terminology. <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[User:</del>Gaia<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">|Gaia]] ([[User talk:Gaia|talk]]) </del>21:16, 7 January 2018 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Would use an alternative term to [[Cold War]] instead to have unique terminology. Gaia 21:16, 7 January 2018 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Agreed.[[User:Misom|Misom]] ([[User talk:Misom|talk]])</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Agreed.[[User:Misom|Misom]] ([[User talk:Misom|talk]])</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*covert economic operation (not sure about this one, e.g. Titanic)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*covert economic operation (not sure about this one, e.g. Titanic)</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Would use [[money scam]] instead. <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[User:Gaia|Gaia]] ([[User talk:Gaia|talk]]) 21</del>:16, 7 January 2018 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Would use [[money scam]] instead. <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Gaia21</ins>:16, 7 January 2018 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Agreed.[[User:Misom|Misom]] ([[User talk:Misom|talk]])</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Agreed.[[User:Misom|Misom]] ([[User talk:Misom|talk]])</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*social engineering</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*social engineering</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Too generic, needs to be broken down. <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[User:</del>Gaia<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">|Gaia]] ([[User talk:Gaia|talk]]) </del>21:16, 7 January 2018 (UTC</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Too generic, needs to be broken down. Gaia 21:16, 7 January 2018 (UTC</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Let's wait for the sheet with proposals out of what we have in the list.[[User:Misom|Misom]] ([[User talk:Misom|talk]])</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Let's wait for the sheet with proposals out of what we have in the list.[[User:Misom|Misom]] ([[User talk:Misom|talk]])</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The second fakeological type would refer to the technology used</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The second fakeological type would refer to the technology used</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">* [[BBS]]</del></div></td><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-added"></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* [[DCP]]</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* [[DCP]]</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Too generic, needs to be broken down. <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[User:</del>Gaia<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">|Gaia]] ([[User talk:Gaia|talk]]) </del>21:16, 7 January 2018 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Too generic, needs to be broken down.Gaia 21:16, 7 January 2018 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Too generic, needs to be broken down. <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[User:</del>Gaia<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">|Gaia]] ([[User talk:Gaia|talk]]) </del>21:16, 7 January 2018 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Too generic, needs to be broken down. Gaia 21:16, 7 January 2018 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>== Comments 7/1/18 Gaia ==</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>== Comments 7/1/18 Gaia ==</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Ok, I understand. But did the Ariana Grande bombing really do a lot to market the brand "Ariana Grande" as even bigger than the Disney teens already saw her? Take it to Las Vegas, did that do "branding" for country music? I wouldn't think so. The main message there imho was "your neighbor can get automatic weapons, go crazy and shoot people with no motive", hence the psyop types there: "mass shooting" and "no motive". We can anyway add more types with commas, like the 1993 WTC bombing one... The <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[</del>HRDPR<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">]] </del>is good because it is a term Fakeologist came up with. Just as [[DCP]] and [[BBS]], they are organic. Would be good to have a general chat about the categories/types of psyops, so we can engage with more people in the discussion, in the end it is a community project. I've added the clear ones as categories, will wait with the others for that deserved discussion. <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[User:Gaia|Gaia]] ([[User talk:Gaia|talk]]) 02:59, 8 January 2018 (UTC)</del></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Ok, I understand. But did the Ariana Grande bombing really do a lot to market the brand "Ariana Grande" as even bigger than the Disney teens already saw her? Take it to Las Vegas, did that do "branding" for country music? I wouldn't think so. The main message there imho was "your neighbor can get automatic weapons, go crazy and shoot people with no motive", hence the psyop types there: "mass shooting" and "no motive". We can anyway add more types with commas, like the 1993 WTC bombing one... The HRDPR is good because it is a term Fakeologist came up with. Just as [[DCP]] and [[BBS]], they are organic. Would be good to have a general chat about the categories/types of psyops, so we can engage with more people in the discussion, in the end it is a community project. I've added the clear ones as categories, will wait with the others for that deserved discussion. </div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>== Comments 8/1/18 Faye, Gaia==</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>== Comments 8/1/18 Faye, Gaia==</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Hm...Im not sure, Gaia, but think that the psyops do not have the same '''real''' content even if they have similar parameters. Ariana Grande is possibly [[marketing]] but La Vegas is (on first sight) not, although both are HRDPR in the field of [[entertainment]]. That is, i think, the purpose of our studies in fakeology :), to deconstruct, interpret, describe and generally produce understanding for the psyops. For my part, i enjoy discussing with you about all this and would enjoy discussions with more others also.<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[User:Misom|Misom]] ([[User talk:Misom|talk]])</del></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Hm...Im not sure, Gaia, but think that the psyops do not have the same '''real''' content even if they have similar parameters. Ariana Grande is possibly [[marketing]] but La Vegas is (on first sight) not, although both are HRDPR in the field of [[entertainment]]. That is, i think, the purpose of our studies in fakeology :), to deconstruct, interpret, describe and generally produce understanding for the psyops. For my part, i enjoy discussing with you about all this and would enjoy discussions with more others also.</div></td></tr>
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</table>Misomhttp://fakeologist.com/fakeopedia/index.php?title=Talk:Main_list_of_psyops&diff=5513&oldid=prevMisom at 17:23, 29 April 20182018-04-29T17:23:18Z<p></p>
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</table>Misomhttp://fakeologist.com/fakeopedia/index.php?title=Talk:Main_list_of_psyops&diff=5333&oldid=prevGaia at 16:00, 27 April 20182018-04-27T16:00:46Z<p></p>
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<tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">* The discussion is ongoing, please contribute with thoughts, propositions, research or whatever you feel would be helpful for the improvement of this topic.</ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>==Notes <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">on </del>7.1.18 misom after comments by gaia ==</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>==Notes 7.1.18 misom after comments by gaia ==</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Hi gaia, i recap now the the common understanding and what remains to be discussed in a sheet and inform as soon as possible.[[User:Misom|Misom]] ([[User talk:Misom|talk]]) </div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Hi gaia, i recap now the the common understanding and what remains to be discussed in a sheet and inform as soon as possible.[[User:Misom|Misom]] ([[User talk:Misom|talk]]) </div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>== Notes <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">on </del>7.1.18 misom ==</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>== Notes 7.1.18 misom ==</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>after discussion on discord gaia, misom:</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>after discussion on discord gaia, misom:</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* the "official" name of the psyop is ok, because it is the name mostly used.<br></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* the "official" name of the psyop is ok, because it is the name mostly used.<br></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">=</del>== Comments 7/1/18 <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">=</del>==</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>== Comments 7/1/18 <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Gaia </ins>==</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Ok, I understand. But did the Ariana Grande bombing really do a lot to market the brand "Ariana Grande" as even bigger than the Disney teens already saw her? Take it to Las Vegas, did that do "branding" for country music? I wouldn't think so. The main message there imho was "your neighbor can get automatic weapons, go crazy and shoot people with no motive", hence the psyop types there: "mass shooting" and "no motive". We can anyway add more types with commas, like the 1993 WTC bombing one... The [[HRDPR]] is good because it is a term Fakeologist came up with. Just as [[DCP]] and [[BBS]], they are organic. Would be good to have a general chat about the categories/types of psyops, so we can engage with more people in the discussion, in the end it is a community project. I've added the clear ones as categories, will wait with the others for that deserved discussion. [[User:Gaia|Gaia]] ([[User talk:Gaia|talk]]) 02:59, 8 January 2018 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Ok, I understand. But did the Ariana Grande bombing really do a lot to market the brand "Ariana Grande" as even bigger than the Disney teens already saw her? Take it to Las Vegas, did that do "branding" for country music? I wouldn't think so. The main message there imho was "your neighbor can get automatic weapons, go crazy and shoot people with no motive", hence the psyop types there: "mass shooting" and "no motive". We can anyway add more types with commas, like the 1993 WTC bombing one... The [[HRDPR]] is good because it is a term Fakeologist came up with. Just as [[DCP]] and [[BBS]], they are organic. Would be good to have a general chat about the categories/types of psyops, so we can engage with more people in the discussion, in the end it is a community project. I've added the clear ones as categories, will wait with the others for that deserved discussion. [[User:Gaia|Gaia]] ([[User talk:Gaia|talk]]) 02:59, 8 January 2018 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">=</del>== Comments 8/1/18 <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">=</del>==</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>== Comments 8/1/18 <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Faye, Gaia</ins>==</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Hm...Im not sure, Gaia, but think that the psyops do not have the same '''real''' content even if they have similar parameters. Ariana Grande is possibly [[marketing]] but La Vegas is (on first sight) not, although both are HRDPR in the field of [[entertainment]]. That is, i think, the purpose of our studies in fakeology :), to deconstruct, interpret, describe and generally produce understanding for the psyops. For my part, i enjoy discussing with you about all this and would enjoy discussions with more others also.[[User:Misom|Misom]] ([[User talk:Misom|talk]])</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Hm...Im not sure, Gaia, but think that the psyops do not have the same '''real''' content even if they have similar parameters. Ariana Grande is possibly [[marketing]] but La Vegas is (on first sight) not, although both are HRDPR in the field of [[entertainment]]. That is, i think, the purpose of our studies in fakeology :), to deconstruct, interpret, describe and generally produce understanding for the psyops. For my part, i enjoy discussing with you about all this and would enjoy discussions with more others also.[[User:Misom|Misom]] ([[User talk:Misom|talk]])</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Sure, if you deem the Ariana Grande bombing was doing good to her sales just like the DCPs of Michael Jackson, Elvis Aaron Presley and Prince were for their records, ok. But imho that would be a side point. The main points I think are the [[war for terror]] and "it can happen to anyone". But you're right, would be good to throw this into the discussion to get more feedback from others. [[User:Gaia|Gaia]] ([[User talk:Gaia|talk]]) 03:30, 8 January 2018 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Sure, if you deem the Ariana Grande bombing was doing good to her sales just like the DCPs of Michael Jackson, Elvis Aaron Presley and Prince were for their records, ok. But imho that would be a side point. The main points I think are the [[war for terror]] and "it can happen to anyone". But you're right, would be good to throw this into the discussion to get more feedback from others. [[User:Gaia|Gaia]] ([[User talk:Gaia|talk]]) 03:30, 8 January 2018 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
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