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  • #850237
    rgos
    rgos
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    Elites of a feather…

    @ 8:11

    #850306

    xileffilex
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    My interest in Diana was reawkened by the Barry Mannakee story, which was given an airing for the 20th anniversary of the “death” He was her close protection officer. How close?
    Noted at LRF
    The Mannakee death is almost certainly also fake.
    http://letsrollforums.com//murder-lady-di-t31960p2.html
    Mannakee’s death attracted no probate, which is very unusual, even in a faked death. All your assets in your former name have to be reassigned. I wonder why.

    On the night of 15 May 1987, Mannakee was invited for a ride home on the motorbike of fellow cop Steven Peat. Later that night, the fatal crash with the Ford Siesta driven by Nicola Chopp occurred in Woodford, north-east London.
    Mannakee died almost instantly after breaking his spine in two places. Peat and Chopp both survived. An inquest into the death concluded it was an accident.

    That was 30 years ago.
    Barry married Susan M Bennett in 1966 when he was 18 years old. d. Clare b 1969
    http://www.famechain.com/family-tree/18461/clare-mannakee
    Susan remarried in 1989 to Edward Miller in Cambridge district.

    Count the number of times the word “conspiracy” is used in this 2004 diffusion of “conspiracy theories”….
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1478804/The-Mannakee-file.html
    The purpose, is to steer us away from considering fake deaths.
    This article has the basic Mannakee crash story, which now looks like a staged event – the unplanned, and highly unusual pillion ride home on a motorcycle of another policeman.
    Nicola, who was driving the car which “killed” Mannakee was fined £85 [!] and is now living in South Carolina, married.

    Steven Peat. Now retired from the police and working as a security consultant, he refuses to discuss the crash. His only public comment was made some years ago when he stated that his friend’s death was an accident “and nothing more”

    The motorcycle would have had to be on the wrong side of the road…here’s the inquest transcript from 2008
    In carefully crafted statements, Nicola is “suspicious of events that night and all that followed” and “witness” David Whiteford, who was going the other way, turning off the A11 – “I was abosolutely not involved in any conspiracy to cause the crash or subsequently in relation to it. Any suggestion to the contrary is utter nonsense”
    [both statements read to the jury, so I suspect they did not attend]

    This final paragraph is a gem…

    If Mannakee was somehow tricked into taking a motorcycle ride home, then Pc Peat must have been part of the conspiracy. But why would Pc Peat risk killing himself? And if he wasn’t part of it, then Nicola Chopp, presumably must have been. If we accept the implausible suggestion that this was the work of the secret service, why would it, in the precision execution of a staged road accident, use a teenage girl who had barely learned to drive? And wouldn’t the highly trained spooks who supposedly planned all this have devised a more certain hit?

    Impossible, lol!

    #850307
    rgos
    rgos
    Participant

    Nicola Chopp

    What is with these names? Made up of whole cloth?

    Good research, xilef. Thanks.

    #850308
    rgos
    rgos
    Participant

    Count the number of times the word “conspiracy” is used in this 2004 diffusion of “conspiracy theories”….
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1478804/The-Mannakee-file.html
    The purpose, is to steer us away from considering fake deaths.

    From the MrE video above:

    Stages of Illuminati Death Hoaxes

    Stage 1: Official story
       tragic death surrounded by mystery
    Stage 2: Conspiracy theory
       murder and cover-up
    Stage 3: Hoax, Fake Death, New Identity and NWO Propaganda
       person appears as other person in the news shortly after death

    #850324

    xileffilex
    Participant

    rgos- I missed the Daily Mail’s reheating of the Mannakee story the other day….
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4762514/Was-bodyguard-Diana-fell-love-bumped-off.html

    The Richard Purnell sub-plot is too silly for words. It all sounds too far-fetched for a made up story.
    The “reflexologist” wife of Barry Mannakee and husband vanish from trace,as does the elder daughter Michele [sic] b 1966.
    The younger daughter and family have a lively fb presence

    but no links to any mother/grandmother/sister ^^

    A very strange event. I’d love to dig up some contemporary local newspapers.

    I wondered if people ever remarry under a new name when one of them is “terminated” It seems an obvious method of staying together if one has to disappear for whatever reason.
    But even then, you would need probate to reassign the assets held under the old name…unless they had all been transferred to the other partner beforehand.

    #850547
    rgos
    rgos
    Participant
    #850587

    xileffilex
    Participant

    I’m a little disappointed by the paucity of 20th anniversary posts on this staged death. Any new hangouts? By chance I picked up an low circulation article by the pilot, [not online] Squadron Leader [retired] Graham Laurie who says he flew the Prince Charles from Aberdeen to Paris on 31st August 1997 and then against protocol brought home a box draped with the Soverign’s flag, contents unknown the same day.

    This would seem to debunk the suspected fake story that the plane was at Aberdeen on stand-by – or perhaps not.
    http://letsrollforums.com//lady-diana-spencer-limo-t28930.html?p=241729&highlight=northolt#post241729

    The Prime Minister’s wife and their three children were put on a scheduled British Midland flight from Teesside airport at tea-time for them to return to Downing Street. Normally, the Prime Minister would have travelled with them.
    But instead, he boarded an RAF plane piloted by a crew based in Scotland which had flown to Teesside. Waiting on the tarmac for Mr Blair was Mr Y.
    Idly chatting to the co-pilot, he was told something very strange.

    The co-pilot, according to information now with the Diana squad, asked him: “What’s really going on? We’ve been on standby in Scotland since 5pm on Friday waiting to make this flight to Northolt with the Prime Minister.”

    Incredibly, and if Mr Y’s memory of his conversation with the co-pilot is correct,
    it would mean that Diana’s death was not only expected? it was actually planned.

    Original storyrom the Mail
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-391065/Revealed-Diana-inquirys-tantalising-new-questions.html

    Mr Blair doesn’t figure in Laurie’s version or indeed the purported second crew ready since the day before for Blair.

    The Queen was the first to be told of the accident, at 2am, when she was woken by her personal page.

    From Mr Laurie, August 2017 [source St Peter and Paul magazine, Great Missenden]

    I was women by my son just after 2AM after he came in from a party to say there had been a car crash in Paris I was due to fly HRH Prince of Wales and Prince Harry from Aberdeen to RAF Lyneham later in the day….HRH wished to fly to Paris at lunchtime….at 10 AM we got a message that we would possibly be bringing back the body that evening. That was a surprise because there was an Operation Order that in the case of a member of the Royal Family passing away overseas, the coffin would return to the UK on the fourth day”

    [no bother about pathology in the “overseas” location, clearly]

    “We flew from Aberdeen to Paris”
    but not before the airframe had been [surprisingly quickly] modified to take a funeral casket [!] and a diversion had been made en route north to pick up Diana’s sisters….
    Apparently, Charles didn’t hang around and went straight back up to Aberdeen to be with his sons. The pilot reported flying Diana 200 times, including this “last time”.

    Video and contemporary report from Northolt with T. Blair and George Robertson on the tarmac
    http://www.getwestlondon.co.uk/news/west-london-news/princess-diana-day-peoples-princess-12574606

    How COULD they build houses on the aerodrome which received Diana’s “body” 20 years ago? An appalling thought!

    The super Culto Letsroll thread on Diana has some relevant questioning about where the Leverton hearse vanished to immediately afterwards.

    It seems Mr Laurie’s release was well spread out this week

    Revealed First Time: Pilot who flew Princess Diana back to Home


    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/08/26/pilot-returned-dianas-body-paris-reveals-scrambled-stop-people/

    Unbeknownst to him, he said, the Prime Minister, military and world’s press were summoned to RAF Northolt for that precise hour, leaving him under pressure to coordinate the difficult job around it.

    Mr Laurie,a father of two, has not shared details about the flight before, but has chosen the 20th anniversary of Diana’s death to lay out the facts for the historical record.


    hmmmm

    The radio interview is from 31:00 here –
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p05bxqpq

    #850597
    Carys
    Carys
    Participant

    Hi xileffilex, rgos & all, thanks for continuing to cover this one. I’ve never really looked at it in any great depth, but there was some coverage about Diana’s last words “being revealed 20 years after her death” in several of yesterday’s papers, even though it appears that the Daily Mail and others had published these 11 years ago, when Lord Stevens presented his findings on her death.

    What’s notable about the reports though, are the quite varying accounts of Diana’s physical condition at the crash scene.

    On the one hand, from the 2006 Daily Mail article:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-423165/Dianas-words-revealed-time-report.html

    Sebastien Dorzee, a French policeman, arrived at the scene with a colleague around 12.30am.

    “Blood was coming out of her mouth and nose,” he said.

    “You could see a deep wound to her forehead… At the same time, she was rubbing her stomach. She must have been in pain.

    “She turned her head towards the front of the car, and saw the driver. She became agitated. Then she put her head down again and closed her eyes.”

    Minutes later, Diana asked paramedic Xavier Gourmelon: “My God, what’s happened?”

    ***

    And from Wednesday’s Daily Mail:

    https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4835744/amp/Fireman-s-battle-save-Princess-Diana.html

    Fireman who was first on the scene after Princess’s crash tells of his battle to save her.

    Sergeant Xavier Gourmelon: “I could see she had a slight injury to her right shoulder but, other than that, there was nothing significant. There was no blood on her at all.

    “To be honest, I thought she would live. As far as I knew when she was in the ambulance she was alive and I expected her to live. But I found out later she had died in hospital.” 

    He has rarely spoken about the incident – the last time was via video link during her inquest in 2007 – but twenty years on from the crash the scene is still vividly clear in Gourmelon’s mind.

    Maybe not that vividly. 😕

    And:

    On that summer night, Mr Mailliez, an emergency doctor, was driving along the Seine river and approaching the tunnel when he saw a smoky accident scene ahead. He stopped and went to investigate.

    When he opened a door of the crumpled Mercedes, he saw four people, two of them in cardiac arrest. The other two, including Diana, were still alive.

    “They were reacting, but clearly had significant injuries,” the doctor said.

    “Significant injuries” or “nothing significant”? “Blood coming out of her mouth” or “no blood on her at all”?

    Were all these guys even at the same scene within “minutes” of each other? 🙄

    Timeline of the fatal Paris crash from the Huffpost: https://www.google.co.uk/amp/m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/uk_59a68fbce4b084581a1474fe/amp

    #850598

    xileffilex
    Participant

    Indeed, Carys, it’s a load of nonsense.

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    #850599

    xileffilex
    Participant

    I was only just reading that 2006 Mail article Carys! I was almost laughing out loud at how preposterous the story line was…

    …embalming fluid [which] made it more difficult to investigate Mr Fayed’s claim that Diana was pregnant by his son at the time of her death.
    According to Colin Tebbutt, ex-Metropolitan Police Royalty protection officer, the heat at the hospital was so intense that Diana’s body was literally “melting”.

    She was in a main room at the hospital, for security reasons, not in a refrigerated mortuary.

    Mr Tebbutt was advised by Diana’s private secretary Michael Gibbins funeral directors could carry on with the preparation.

    He revealed: “I was relieved as I did not wish her family to see her body in a state of deterioration.”

    And Keith Moss of the British Embassy in Paris said he was told in French that the Princess would need arterial injections to preserve the body from odour and changing colour but didn”t realise it meant embalming.

    LOL!
    Actually, any half-awake person who watches the above ITN film of the coffin landing at Northolt and being whisked away to a place unknown cannot possibly reach a conclusion that this was a long planned psy-op. Particularly amusing was the plane taxi-ing to the far extremity of the airport, behind a mound and stopping. Perhaps a coffin was loaded inside it.

    As with all good psy-ops and staged events, you need good English language witnesses on holiday, perhaps a paid-for holiday, and hey presto, you’re away. The linked videos at Letsrollforums from BBC worldwide are now blocked, but there are still short audio clips at CNN of Tom Richardson and Joanna Luz from San Diego as well as that of another US citizen Mike Walker
    http://edition.cnn.com/WORLD/9708/31/diana.11a.update/index.html

    And no surprises, Joanna Luz was wheeled out with her story only this summer
    http://www.10news.com/news/san-diego-woman-shares-her-memories-of-the-night-princess-diana-died
    August 11 2017 [now Joanna Luz DaCosta] [no harm in coming out nearly 3 weeks early]
    http://www.10news.com/news/san-diego-woman-shares-her-memories-of-the-night-princess-diana-died

    At the time, in 1997, repeated in 2017…

    http://www.nydailynews.com/newswires/entertainment/ap-princess-diana-dies-paris-car-crash-article-1.3457744

    “There was smoke. I think the car hit a wall,” said Richardson, of San Diego. “A man started running towards us telling us to go.”

    “The horn was sounding for about two minutes,” said Miss Luz. “I think it was the driver against the steering wheel.”

    Richardson seems to have been airbrushed out of the story by Luz DaCosta in 2017.

    “I was crossing the street adjacent to the tunnel, and I heard a really long screech and a crash and a really short screech and a crash,” Joanna Luz DaCosta told 10News.

    Da Costa ran into the tunnel to help.

    “I noticed it was coming from inside the tunnel. So I dropped down.. and I stopped the first car because I looked to my right I saw there was a Mercedes that was faced towards me. I knew it had been had in a crash. I was trying to stop the incoming cars going into the tunnel from hitting the car,” Da Costa said.

    And she still keeps the stiped top she wore that day 20 years ago…

    Joanna DaCosta
    10 August at 19:23 · Instagram ·
    Going over evidence photos today, along with my 2007 court testimony in the British Royal Inquest into Princess Diana’s death. We’ll see how the interview turns out when it airs tonight on the 11pm news.
    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/man-wouldn-paparazzi-diana-car-article-1.228390

    Jessica Berrett? Joanna DaCosta
    11 August near San Diego, CA, United States ·
    10News video clip of your interview tonight. Great job, and so very sorry you have to re-live this tragic event. ???

    Absolutely…

    #850600

    xileffilex
    Participant

    I was only just reading that 2006 Mail article Carys! I was almost laughing out loud at how preposterous the story line was…

    …embalming fluid [which] made it more difficult to investigate Mr Fayed’s claim that Diana was pregnant by his son at the time of her death.
    According to Colin Tebbutt, ex-Metropolitan Police Royalty protection officer, the heat at the hospital was so intense that Diana’s body was literally “melting”.

    She was in a main room at the hospital, for security reasons, not in a refrigerated mortuary.

    Mr Tebbutt was advised by Diana’s private secretary Michael Gibbins funeral directors could carry on with the preparation.

    He revealed: “I was relieved as I did not wish her family to see her body in a state of deterioration.”

    And Keith Moss of the British Embassy in Paris said he was told in French that the Princess would need arterial injections to preserve the body from odour and changing colour but didn”t realise it meant embalming.

    LOL!
    Actually, any half-awake person who watches the above ITN film of the coffin landing at Northolt and being whisked away to a place unknown cannot possibly reach a conclusion that this was a long planned psy-op. Particularly amusing was the plane taxi-ing to the far extremity of the airport, behind a mound and stopping. Perhaps a coffin was loaded inside it.

    As with all good psy-ops and staged events, you need good English language witnesses on holiday, perhaps a paid-for holiday, and hey presto, you’re away. The linked videos at Letsrollforums from BBC worldwide are now blocked, but there are still short audio clips at CNN of Tom Richardson and Joanna Luz from San Diego as well as that of another US citizen Mike Walker
    http://edition.cnn.com/WORLD/9708/31/diana.11a.update/index.html

    And no surprises, Joanna Luz was wheeled out with her story only this summer
    http://www.10news.com/news/san-diego-woman-shares-her-memories-of-the-night-princess-diana-died
    August 11 2017 [now Joanna Luz DaCosta] [no harm in coming out nearly 3 weeks early]
    http://www.10news.com/news/san-diego-woman-shares-her-memories-of-the-night-princess-diana-died

    At the time, in 1997, repeated in 2017…

    http://www.nydailynews.com/newswires/entertainment/ap-princess-diana-dies-paris-car-crash-article-1.3457744

    “There was smoke. I think the car hit a wall,” said Richardson, of San Diego. “A man started running towards us telling us to go.”

    “The horn was sounding for about two minutes,” said Miss Luz. “I think it was the driver against the steering wheel.”

    Richardson seems to have been airbrushed out of the story by Luz DaCosta in 2017.

    “I was crossing the street adjacent to the tunnel, and I heard a really long screech and a crash and a really short screech and a crash,” Joanna Luz DaCosta told 10News.

    Da Costa ran into the tunnel to help.

    “I noticed it was coming from inside the tunnel. So I dropped down.. and I stopped the first car because I looked to my right I saw there was a Mercedes that was faced towards me. I knew it had been had in a crash. I was trying to stop the incoming cars going into the tunnel from hitting the car,” Da Costa said.

    And she still keeps the stiped top she wore that day 20 years ago…

    Joanna DaCosta
    10 August at 19:23 · Instagram ·
    Going over evidence photos today, along with my 2007 court testimony in the British Royal Inquest into Princess Diana’s death. We’ll see how the interview turns out when it airs tonight on the 11pm news.
    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/man-wouldn-paparazzi-diana-car-article-1.228390

    Jessica Berrett? Joanna DaCosta
    11 August near San Diego, CA, United States ·
    10News video clip of your interview tonight. Great job, and so very sorry you have to re-live this tragic event. ???

    Absolutely…

    #850632

    xileffilex
    Participant

    Back to the autopsy room…
    tales emerging 7 years later
    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/di-did-not-have-abortion-7229576.html

    A former royal coroner today revealed there are rumours that Princess Diana had an abortion after the Paris car crash.

    Dr John Burton, one of only two people at her post-mortem examination, has kept silent for six years. But today he told the Evening Standard: “I know she was not pregnant and this latest theory was the last straw, the story which loosened my tongue.”

    Dr Burton, who attended the examination of the princess and Dodi Fayed at Fulham mortuary on 31 August, 1997, said: “She wasn’t pregnant. I have seen inside her womb.
    “The abortion theory was a new one on me. A British coroner recently told me about it and neither of us could believe it. The conspiracy theory suggested that the reason it had taken so long to take Diana’s body from the crash site to the hospital was because she had had an abortion en route to cover up her pregnancy.

    A great rabbit hole!

    “But the truth is that she was involved in a terrible crash and had major surgery. The French authorities did an excellent job.”

    […in staging the fake crash]

    Not to be outdone by Burton…

    Fulham mortuary manager Robert Thompson has told the Mail her stomach contents smelt strongly of alcohol.

    not to mention…

    Diana’s close friend, Rosa Monkton, has said a pregnancy was impossible because a fortnight before the crash she had a period.

    So who carried out the “post mortem” on the “dead” princess?

    http://www.express.co.uk/dianainquest/26418/Diana-was-not-pregnant-says-pathologist
    November 26 2007

    Dr Robert Chapman carried out the post-mortem on the same night the Princess died, but could find none of the tell-tale signs of pregnancy, he told the inquest into her death today.

    The jury also heard Dr Chapman failed to take a tissue sample from the Princess’s womb as a “more complete” check for pregnancy.

    perhaps because she wasn’t on the table.

    Evidence also emerged today at the High Court that Princess Diana died from chest injuries, namely a one inch laceration to the heart’s pulmonary vein.
    She also suffered swelling and bleeding to her brain, fractured ribs, a dislocated right collar bone and a broken arm.
    As most of her injuries were to the right hand side of her body, Dr Chapman was able to conclude she had been sitting sideways in her seat during the crash.
    Dodi also died from multiple chest injuries.

    The bodies of Diana and Dodi were both examined by Dr Chapman at Hammersmith and Fulham Mortuary in West London on the evening of August 31, 1997 after being flown back to the UK from Paris.

    really?

    Surely there can’t have been many more people crammed into this autopsy room? Wrong!
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/diana-the-crash-the-cover-up-and-the-coroner-74772.html
    January 4 2004

    Michael Burgess saw the broken body of Diana, Princess of Wales, on the day she died. He was in the air-conditioned autopsy room as a pathologist examined Diana’s corpse, hours after the car crash that had killed her. Six years later, Mr Burgess is the coroner poised to open inquests into the deaths of Diana and her companion, Dodi Fayed.

    Mr Burgess attended the autopsy on the Princess’s body at the Hammersmith and Fulham mortuary on the night after the crash as deputy to the then royal coroner, Dr John Burton

    But he retired in 2002, and at the end of last year it fell to his successor to start proceedings.

    Well fancy that! Present in 1997! What luck.

    It would have required an act of God-like omniscience and utter foolhardiness by M16, the CIA or whoever – even assuming the motive and will – to have organised an assassination of a beloved public figure in such unpredictable and rapidly changing circumstances.

    It’s much easier to organise a fake crash in which nobody dies, you have to admit.

    #850643
    Carys
    Carys
    Participant

    Ha ha. Autopsy-turvy!

    They’re just having a laugh now i.e. how ludicrous and far-fetched can they make this whole thing before the world catches on? Endlessly so, apparently.

    Occam’s Razor again. Thanks for the further insights – I had a laugh too!

    #850766
    rgos
    rgos
    Participant

    Placing this one here too.

    Zsa Zsa Gabor has already been mentioned in this thread, and although, as far as we know, Grandma K. did not date Diana, they did at least rub shoulders, so that places her/him/it in his/her/its Trail of Trannies.

    And it is circumstantial evidence, of course.

    And a deeper rabbit hole to boot.


    Let’s see, what’s on the menu


    No cookies for you Henry boy


    Such a nice lad

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    #850770
    rgos
    rgos
    Participant

    Damn, no Lady Diana.

    Come on, Tom, report for work and find us some pics of Di with a butterfly.

    #850771
    rgos
    rgos
    Participant

    There we go.

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    #850879
    rgos
    rgos
    Participant

    It must be a Hollywood staple.

    A Hollywood Murder Mystery Involving a Car Crash and a Tranny.

    Exhibit J @3:33

    #851017
    rgos
    rgos
    Participant

    The Prototype

    #851200
    rgos
    rgos
    Participant

    11-11-2017 The Surfer looking for clues

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Hi Ab,

Here’s a douchebag follower from Gitmo Nation Lowlands (NWO Logistics Central).
Listened to all your shows in the archives (and Fetzer’s).
Informed academic on the rocks.
Musician (of course), linguist (hail Chomsky), and I might have studied the Trivium.
Been scraping down each and every rabbit hole since the beginning of this monumental charade.
Clues and OBF brought me here.

Thanks for the extra opening of eyes.

Now, as they say over here: “Veel succes met uw show!”

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