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    mrg4ull
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    Photos or it didn’t happen, then I guess the
    Abbeystead disaster didn’t happen either as I have no photos to prove it, you guy’s carry on with your conspiracy theories, or maybe move out of your parents house and get a real life, I’m out of here before I move into insult mode, it wouldn’t do any good as a few morons wouldn’t understand they’d been insulted.

    #848330
    rgos
    rgos
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    Photos or it didn’t happen

    Yes, we need more proof. Read that article again:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell%27s_teapot

    #848331

    xileffilex
    Participant

    I sat through all the currently available videos of TV coverage within 24 hours of the Lockerbie “crash” and all the usual signs were there, duping, ridiculous stories, pets, lucky escapes, the suitcase shot, dollar bills [no passports though] bored emergency services hanging around, cheerful faces.. I’ll add some screenshots later in case the videos disappear.

    My gratitude however to G4ULL for bringing up the use of Radio Hams in these drills reported as real events in the MSM, viz Raynet whose useful idiot roles adds to the official narrative. Searching for nothing but feeling they are doing a good job. It makes me think of those clowns in white suits who are always photographed padding around fake crime scenes, peering at shoes for the cameras, putting out yellow markers for imaginary bullet casings. Actually the latter class know full well that they are participating in a fraud, whereas most of the Raynet hams are well away from the hoax.
    Back to the basement conspiracy room in my parents’ house….

    Perhaps this Lockerbie Raynet searcher has some photos to help us? I wonder what Ken found under water?


    KEN WARD ?@KeninSpoons [Bolton England]
    @gmpolice I helped out (RAYNET) with the Strathclyde Underwater Search Unit at Lockerbie all those years ago.
    1:00 PM – 31 Jan 2014

    The Lockerbie fable is still being hawked around Scotland by a senior Raynet official


    Glasgow Clyde RAYNET @gcraynet
    Lockerbie Presentation by Ron GM4SRL with Raynet and Strathclyde 4×4 Response at Intu Braehead. http://fb.me/7lgcNRbe1
    7:44 PM – 20 Jan 2015

    The link is dead, but who’s Ron?
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/ron-cowan-494676105
    Consultant in Emergencies Planning and Disaster Management at Ronald M. Cowan
    Traffic Management Consultant Dumfries & Galloway Council
    May 2016 – Present (9 months)Dumfries Resilience Consultant SAFEDEM LIMITED
    February 2011 – Present (6 years)Dundee, United Kingdom
    Emergencies Planning and Disaster Management Ronald Cowan, Consultant
    February 2011 – Present (6 years)Glasgow
    Consultant The Scottish Government
    2011 – Present (6 years)
    Resilience and Safety Manager Glasgow City Council
    2008 – 2011 (3 years)
    City Emergencies Planning Officer Glasgow City Council
    April 1996 – 2008 (12 years)Glasgow, United Kingdom

    He was the RAYNET Incident Officer for the first ten days of the Lockerbie Disaster. This changed his career path and he was appointed Strathclyde’s Senior Emergencies Planning Officer (Communications) where he developed the ECN for Strathclyde which was later rolled out over the whole of Scotland. In 1996 he was appointed City Emergencies Planning Officer of Glasgow and later became the City’s Resilience and Safety Manager.

    Ron gained an MSc in Emergency Planning and Disaster Management at the University of Hertfordshire and during his career he was seconded on a part time basis to Scottish Government and was a member of the Contingency Communications Group of the Cabinet Office. He was a regular visiting speaker at The Home Office’s Emergency Planning College in Easingwold and at the Scottish Police College at Tulliallan.

    Ron co-ordinated Glasgow City Council’s response to the Maryhill Disaster, retired from Council Service in 2011,

    Ron was the Institute of Demolition Engineers in the Fall of 2014 giving his talk…
    http://ide.org.uk/2014/10/09/ide-autumn-seminar-2014/

    Mr Cowan graphically described, with the aid of his slide show, some unseen photographs of the Lockerbie [sic] and the devastation caused by the rowing of the Pan-Am flight.

    So, at the top of Raynet, there are people in the know.

    Hmmm time to have a look at the Maryhill Disaster through our Fakeologist lenses.

    PS oh dear oh dear… without derailing the thread
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockline_Plastics_factory_explosion
    a familiar pose…

    • This reply was modified 1 year, 4 months ago by  xileffilex.
    #851146

    xileffilex
    Participant

    Not quite 30 years…not even 29 since this pre-9/11 staged event, but we get the little reminders every so often, as with this Metro piece on Alexander O’Neal
    November 6 2017

    On the road with… Alexander O’Neal

    I was on Pan Am Flight 101, the one before Flight 103 — the Lockerbie bombing — which is the flight I was originally going to catch. I still think about that escape

    Ah, the lucky 9/11 style corny escape story.
    It was touched on with mild surprise at intel hangout Digital Spy back in 2011 [Nobody there will challenge the “crash” narrative]
    https://forums.digitalspy.com/discussion/1453828/artists-that-have-cheated-death/p2
    see comment by ibeca

    I didn’t know about Take That “pop star” Gary Barlow’s involvement in the 7/7 narrative. Doing his job, like all the others I guess.

    #852960

    xileffilex
    Participant

    Not strictly imagery – Lockerbie is an event which requires careful but rewarding hoax management. But it continues to “give”, and will again do so in late 2018, as we reach the 30th anniversary.
    https://panam103.syr.edu/scope.php

    They have appointed a Remembrance and Lockerbie Ambassador at Syracuse

    Professor Lawrence Mason Jr. (right) pauses while photographing at the Lawn Bowling Club in Lockerbie, Scotland, to pose next to Jimmy Pagan, perhaps Lockerbie’s best-known resident.

    Professor Lawrence Mason Appointed as University’s Remembrance and Lockerbie Ambassador


    In the nearly 30 years since Pan Am Flight 103 was destroyed by a terrorist bomb in the skies over Lockerbie, Scotland, Mason has been a staunch guardian of the Pan Am 103 legacy on the Syracuse University campus and around the globe. For Mason, the tragedy—and the importance of the victims’ legacy—is personal. He was a faculty member at SU on Dec. 21, 1988, when the bombing took the lives of 259 passengers and 11 people on the ground in Lockerbie. Eight of Mason’s students were among the victims.

    Mason has worked tirelessly to teach others that Lockerbie should not solely be defined by the 1988 tragedy. Mason is a well-known and loved visitor in Lockerbie. He has traveled there 15 times and developed strong relationships with local community members. Using the deep connections he has built, Mason has taken over 100 students to Lockerbie, including some who studied with him at the Syracuse University London Centre. He and fellow Newhouse professor Melissa Chessher co-authored the book, “Looking for Lockerbie.” The book, through Mason’s writing and photographs, Chessher’s writing and editing, and extensive student reporting and photography, tells stories of the town that extend beyond the global disaster spotlight.

    Does it look like the youthful Prof had students 30 years ago?

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    And the above Jimmy Pagan must surely be related to David Pagan, co-discoverer in 2009 of an alleged Pan Am 103 lifejacket lodged in a pine tree near Lockerbie, “in surprisingly good condition”
    Suuuure
    Mr Pagan said it seemed obvious that the lifejacket has never been used because the two gas canisters were still intact. The workmen intend to hand their find over to the disaster museum in Lockerbie this week but a spokesman for Dumfries and Galloway Police said it should be given to them.

    Read more at: https://www.scotsman.com/news/lockerbie-bomb-evidence-is-found-20-years-later-in-tree-1-829891

    https://www.scotsman.com/news/lockerbie-bomb-evidence-is-found-20-years-later-in-tree-1-829891

    The Syracuse archive is MASSIVE.
    https://library.syr.edu/digital/guides_pa103/html/
    Click on anyone of the links….

    for instance

    https://library.syr.edu/digital/guides_pa103/html/pa103_l_wilson.htm
    June and Jim Wilson are residents of the Lockerbie area and lived on the outskirts of Tundergarth in December, 1988 when Pan Am 103 fell from the sky. The cockpit of the Clipper Maid of the Seas landed in a field near Tundergarth and the Wilson’s farm was a very short distance from this. Their fields would be important points in the search effort as many bodies fell on their land. The Wilsons spent days feeding the police and investigators and dealing with the aftermath of the crash, which would extend into the new year. Media intrusions were a few of the hardships the family faced in the days following the crash.

    The Wilson Family Papers were donated to the Archives by June and Jim Wilson in 2012.
    hmmmmm
    yes, this cockpit.

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