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    Another Team DCP staged plane crash, an early one this time, prescriptive programming for the Manchester United Munich plane crash:

    Superga air disaster

    The Superga air disaster occurred on 4 May 1949, when a Fiat G.212 of Avio Linee Italiane (Italian Airlines), carrying the entire Torino football team (popularly known as the Grande Torino) crashed into the retaining wall at the back of the Basilica of Superga, which stands on the hill of Turin. 31 people died; there were no survivors.

    Looks legit

    So we have half a plane wreck against a wall it allegedly slammed into. But why don’t we see any evidence of that crash on the wall itself? This just looks like a prop placed there…
    And 9/11 planes theory believers, why didn’t the plane morph into the wall, Wile E. Coyote-style?

    The Avio Linee Italiane Fiat G.212CP was carrying the team home from Lisbon, where they had played a friendly match with S.L. Benfica in honour of the Portuguese captain, Francisco Ferreira. In the incident, the whole Torino team (almost all of the Italy national football team) lost their lives. Club officials and carriers also perished in the accident, as well as the crew and three well-known Italian sports journalists: Renato Casalbore (founder of Tuttosport); Renato Tosatti (the Gazzetta del Popolo, father of Giorgio Tosatti), and Luigi Cavallero (La Stampa).

    Looks like Chapecoense LaMia Flight 2933…

    Stage prop landing gear

    Strategically placed stage prop landing gear with the tire still magically inflated!


    1 – no damage on the wall again
    2 – notice the ladder behind the plane
    3 – and the inflated tire of the back landing gear

    The heavily damaged wall of the Basilica has been kept “intact” to commemorate the vicsims of this howwible plane crash:

    Heavily damaged wall still proof of horrible plane crash

    The task of identifying the bodies was entrusted to the former manager of the Italy national team, Vittorio Pozzo, who had called up most of Torino’s players to the Azzurri.

    Ah yes, because why ask a forensic team to do that, let’s just call the former manager…

    But our Victor had an easy job, because despite a horrible crash at high speed into a wall, the “bodies” were not broken up in pieces, as bones tend to do when they receive strong impacts, but were neatly placed next to the wreck:

    Bodies bodies bodies

    Bigger bodies

    Notice the wall. In the previous photo with the inflated back wheel, we saw that to the right of the impacted wall, it’s open space with another wall behind a path. On this photo we see the other side of the wall is completely open.

    So where were the photos taken with the inflated front landing wheel, in a confined space with walls to both sides?

    As you can see here:

    Walls walls walls

    The three-engined Fiat G.212, with aircraft registration I-ELCE, of Avio Linee Italiane, took off from Lisbon at 09:40 on Wednesday, 4 May 1949. The commander of the aircraft was Lieutenant Colonel Meroni. The flight landed at the airport in Barcelona at 13:00. While the aircraft was refuelled during the stopover, Torino met for lunch with Milan, who were directed to Madrid.

    What a coincidence. The Last Lunch, someone should make a painting of that!

    At 14:50, I-ELCE set off for the Turin-Aeritalia Airport. The weather in Turin was poor; at 16:55, the airport of Aeritalia communicated the weather situation to the pilot – clouds almost touching the ground, showers, strong southwest wind gusts, and very poor horizontal visibility (40 m).

    Convenient weather to prepare some props. And at one photo we see people with umbrellas. In the others not anymore.

    On approach, the plane lined up with the runway Aeritalia about 9 miles away, at 305 m above sea level, with Pino at 290° off its bow. Just north of Pino Torinese was the Basilica of Superga, situated on a hill at 669 m above sea level. One theory for the deviation is that due to the strong left crosswinds, the plane could have suffered a drift to starboard, which shifted from the axis of descent and lined up with the hill of Superga. Recent investigations also suggested the possibility that the altimeter had malfunctioned and locked at 2000 m, which led the pilots to believe that they were at a higher altitude.

    Of course! Or should I say off course?

    At 17:03, the plane made a turn to the left, put in horizontal flight, and aligned to prepare for landing, when it crashed into the back of the embankment of the Basilica of Superga. The pilot, who likely believed that the Superga hill was off to his right, would have seen it suddenly emerge directly in front of him (speed 180 km/h, visibility 40 m) and been unable to react. The wreckage did not give any indication of an attempt to go around. The only part of the aircraft which remained partially intact was the empennage.

    So if a plane impacts straight into a wall with 180 km/h, how come we have such perfect dumm… I mean bodies?

    The current remains of the aircraft include a propeller, a tire, scattered pieces of the fuselage, and the personal bags of Mazzola, Maroso, and Erbstein, which are preserved in a museum in Grugliasco near Turin. The Museo del Grande Torino e della Leggenda Granata, hosted in the prestigious Villa Claretta Assandri of Grugliasco, was opened 4 May 2008, the anniversary of the tragedy. 8 of the 18 players (as well as 2 coaches and 1 journalist Renato Casalbore) [makes 11] are buried at the Monumental Cemetery of Turin.

    And of course, a memorial, again no planes theory morph physics:


    And a nice piece of post-programming by a Benfica fan:

    Postprogramming on the head

    But there’s more. Because we have a miraculous case of Final Destination, linking another staged story into the sobbing narrative:

    Forced to leave fascist Italy, Ernö Erbstein and his family survived the Holocaust in extraordinary circumstances before he returned to take Serie A by storm with the Grande Torino. Ernö Egri Erbstein was a pioneering coach who created Il Grande Torino, the great side that won five successive Serie A titles. He was killed with the rest of his squad in the plane crash at Superga in 1949.

    Read more about unobtainium passports and videos at Fakeopedia. There also the confusion about the walls is explained.

    • This reply was modified 2 weeks, 3 days ago by gaia gaia.

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    just 5 bodies

    – there are just 5 “bodies” in the photo. The other 26 people on board just vaporized upon “impact”?
    – the photos with the umbrella men and the inflated big tire between walls are claimed to be from another football team crash in this video (in Spanish, at 00:46):

    Problem is that that plane “crashed” in the Oresund, the strait next to Copenhagen… So the tagging in the video is wrong.

    On this forum the photo is claimed to have been from the Torino crash, just like what the FIFA and Torino FC say.

    So the wall confusion stays upright.

    Huge damage, definite proof of a howwible plane crash

    Talking about walls, notice the huge damage, definite proof of a howwible plane crash…

    Plane wing

    Clear evidence of a plane crash, this wing part doesn’t look prepped and propped at all…

    Memorial Superga

    Memorial where this all “happened”. Notice the gaping hole in the wall, “left untouched out of respect for the vicsims”, according to Wickedpedia…

    Yearly pilgrimage

    Would any of these “1000s of yearly pilgrims” realize this whole “crash” was a hoax?

    Wheelchair pilgrim

    Even in wheelchairs visiting this pilgrimage site, hoping they can walk or play football again? Note the huge impact crater on the wall…

    "A truth seeker is someone who dares to wade through thick series of toxic smoke screens and tries not to inhale" - Gaia (2017)

    "What do you call 'genius'?" "Well, seeing things others don't see. Or rather the invisible links between things." - Vladimir Nabokov (1938)


    Just today, fresh from the press:

    A Russian plane has crashed after taking off from Moscow, according to Russian media.

    The Saratov Airlines An-148 jet, was en route to the city of Orsk when it vanished from radar.

    Russian news agencies reported 65 passengers and 6 crew were on board, and that the plane crashed in the Ramensky district outside Moscow.

    An emergency services source told Russian news agency Interfax that all 71 passengers were feared dead.
    Interfax also reported that the crash may have been caused by a collision with a helicopter.

    “The plane crashed near the village of Argunovo. Passengers as well as the crew could hardly survive,” they said.

    Eyewitnesses in Argunovo said they saw a burning plane falling from the sky.
    Rescue workers were unable to reach the crash site by road and had to approach on foot.

    Video footage obtained by Russian media showed plane debris scattered across a snow-covered field.

    Video here

    – If a burning plane falls from the sky and crashes, would you expect clean neatly placed wreckage, or an impact site with clear evidence of burned pieces?

    Not in Russia:


    Note the name of the picture: “”

    The Saratov Airlines jet vanished minutes after take-off and crashed near the village of Argunovo, about 80km (50 miles) south-east of Moscow.

    All those on board are thought to have died, officials told Russian media.

    The An-148 was en route to the city of Orsk in the Urals, near Russia’s border with Kazakhstan. It crashed early in the afternoon local time.

    Pictures from the crash site appear to show pieces of wreckage in a snow-covered field.

    Flight-tracking site Flightradar24 tweets that the aircraft was descending at 1,000m (3,300ft) per minute (60km/h, 38mph) 5 minutes after taking off.

    10 miles/minute?? Seriously? That is 600 miles per hour (or 1000 km/h)!, in the lower altitude region. This plane, with a planned flight duration of 2:11 had to travel 1448 km = 11 km/minute. Yet when it is just taking off, it already travels at 16 km/min. Does the plane take a break somewhere in the air, or do we have another magical 9/11 plane that can fly close to Mach 1 at near-surface conditions?

    Ah, I see the difference; 80 km SE of Moscow, not 80 km from the airport, that is already in the SE of Moscow.

    Flight plan

    It comes from the always reliable BBC, so don’t you dare to question it.

    Remains of a second aircraft, identified as a helicopter, were found near the crash site of the An-148. According to initial (unconfirmed) reports, the plane collided with a Russian Post helicopter. A spokesman from Russian Post denied that the company was involved in the catastrophe, stating: “We don’t have any helicopters. I don’t know where people are getting this information from.”


    • This reply was modified 1 week ago by gaia gaia.
    • This reply was modified 1 week ago by gaia gaia.

    "A truth seeker is someone who dares to wade through thick series of toxic smoke screens and tries not to inhale" - Gaia (2017)

    "What do you call 'genius'?" "Well, seeing things others don't see. Or rather the invisible links between things." - Vladimir Nabokov (1938)



    We must assume it’s fake until we see any evidence that it’s real. I’m not holding myh breath. Flightradar24 is the reliable promulgator of all these aviation hoaxes. It must be easy to simulate any flight. The great circle route…lol! More like the great dog leg.



    While we await the empty casket funerals from the fake Sydney seaplane crash, the Coroner in the Royal County of Berkshire has kicked the inquest into touch, I guess he knows it’s fake and he is washing his hands of it through procedural means….
    Peter Bedford, senior coroner for Berkshire, suspended his involvement at a preliminary hearing on February 12 at Reading Town Hall.
    “I propose to suspend my investigation under the Criminal Justice Act 2009. This allows me the power to suspend my investigation if another investigation into the deaths is being conducted.

    “The New South Wales coroner is leading an ongoing investigation and she has access to the investigation by local authorities and that will involve an air crash investigator by a team of specialists.

    “It will then fall to my office to consider whether or not a full inquest should take place here in Berkshire, using the outcome of the investigation from Australia.”
    That’s 12 months down the line at least.

    The bodies were identified using personal documents such as passports to confirm the deceased’s identities when they first arrived back in the Berkshire coroner’s jurisdiction.
    The inquest was opened in Berkshire because the bodies were repatriated to Reading, where Richard Cousins’ brother lives.


    British family killed in New Year’s Eve Sydney seaplane crash drowned, inquest hears

    [Mr Bedford] said: “The New South Wales Coroner is currently leading an investigation into the deaths of those concerned involving many local authorities.
    “This will be based on air traffic investigations led by the Australian Transport Safety Bureau and other specially trained people.

    “These people have specific expertise as well as, importantly, having access to the scene.

    LOL! Specially trained hoaxers.

    No fake funeral without faking the import of bodies from overseas. No need for facial recognition, since there were no faces or bodies present.

    Get your sunglasses ready for the funerals, whenever they will take place.

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