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  • #9827
    Avatar photoeviledna
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    There’s a major PsyOp unwinding in Ireland at the moment. Involving the illicit concealment of some 797 corpses of babies and infants.

    Up to eight hundred dead bodies were supposedly discovered in a septic tank in the grounds of a derelict Roman Catholic convent in Tuam, County Galway. The media reports that at least some of the babies were unlawfully killed by the nuns, and in illegal medical experiments which allegedly took place at the children’s home before it closed in 1961.

    The Hoax Factor is high on this one. The sheer scale of the bodycount belies the fraud. It’s impossible to see how that number of vanished babies, if true, could have been kept under wraps for up to 70 years.

    Tuam Survivor: “Many children would be there one day and gone the next..they simply disappeared. John Rodgers, 68, described the home in Tuam, Co Galway as a “rabid playground where you couldn’t get too attached” because kids would simply disappear. “I had friends but you couldn’t get too attached because so many children would just be there one day and gone the next. They disappeared.”

    Minister for Children Charlie Flanagan has claimed the details of the Tuam baby scandal are ‘almost too graphic and horrible to believe.

    Almost?!

    The PsyOp includes the bizarre involvement of the Daily Mail & General Trust (DMGT) – a British global media empire controlled by the noxious aristocratic Harmsworth / Northcliffe / Rothermere family.

    London-based DMGT is apparently paying “a private engineering firm” to carry out ground-penetrating radar surveys at the site of the former Bon Secours convent (“to locate any more corpses“). In itself, that’s a pretty unusual state of affairs; and it’s already being flagged up by cynics as more than a bit suspect! After all, if this was a real mass murder investigation, would the Irish government really allow a foreign media company to bankroll a private investigation on its sovereign soil, contaminating a suspected major crime scene???

    We also find the tell-tale involvement of Amnesty International – an MI6-controlled NGO, also run out of London. The bogus “human rights organisation” is weighing in heavily with a parallel propaganda operation to underpin the main PsyOp narrative. Amnesty is notorious for coordinating its propaganda to serve British Foreign Office policy.

    Described variously as “a British intelligence project working to erode the principle of national sovereignty“, “a British intelligence creation” and “a covert arm of the British Foreign Office“, Amnesty is calling for the Tuam investigation to be handed over to an international body (along the lines of the Bosnian “mass graves” hoax??) The dodgy NGO is also demanding that the investigation be scaled up to cover other former Catholic children’s homes in Ireland.

    Domestically, the PsyOp narrative is being driven by RTE journalist Philip Boucher-Hayes. Boucher-Hayes is reportedly employed as a radio investigator by RTE – the Irish state broadcaster. But he claims here to be “investigating independently” of his government employer. Boucher-Hayes, whose photographs seem a bit simmy (see below), has been quoted hundreds of times in world media reports on the PsyOp. His handlers are also running a 24/7 “Twitter feed” (hashtag: #tuambabies)

    The puppet Irish government for its part is admitting its own culpability in these (fake) baby deaths. Which sets the ball rolling nicely for huge compensation payouts to non-existent families. A grander swindle you could not conceive!

    Anyone else following this garbage?

    http://www.sundayworld.com/top-stories/news/radar-examination-of-tuam-babies-site

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=90722196
    http://www.pressreader.com/ireland/the-irish-mail-on-sunday/20140525/textview
    http://www.rte.ie/news/2014/0606/621906-tuam-mass-grave/

    #9829
    Avatar photoeviledna
    Participant

    There’s a telling picture below from the Connacht Tribune. It’s of the Committee of the Tuam Mass Graves Commission. Irish Eyes a’Smiling, they all pose merrily for media snaps, standing directly on top of the mass grave site for 800 dead babies.


    From left: Arthur McDonagh, Maura Ryan, David Collins, John Lowe, Martin Ford, Caroline Canney, Catherine Corless, Teresa Kelly, Padraig and Ellen Dooley. Photo: Johnny Ryan Photography.


    Catherine Corless (above, grinning, in the grey, with her hand on the wall) is the local gopher / psyop-erative for this hoax; she seems witting enough).

    And Ms Corless, looking a bit more serious now, posing for the more discerning readership of the Daily Mail!…

    #9832
    xileffilex
    Participant

    Yep, the septic tank bit screamed out psy-op. Now Corless is doing some back pedalling.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/tuam-mother-and-baby-home-the-trouble-with-the-septic-tank-story-1.1823393#.U5Kp7-W7ZRM.twitter

    Her research has revealed that 796 children, most of them infants, died between 1925 and 1961, the 36 years that the home, run by Bon Secours, existed.

    Between 2011 and 2013 Corless paid €4 each time to get the children’s publicly available death certificates. She says the total cost was €3,184. “If I didn’t do it, nobody else would have done it. I had them all by last September.”

    The deaths of these 796 children are not in doubt. Their numbers are a stark reflection of a period in Ireland when infant mortality in general was very much higher than today, particularly in institutions, where infection spread rapidly. At times during those 36 years the Tuam home housed more than 200 children and 100 mothers, plus those who worked there, according to records Corless has found.

    Between 1925, when the home opened, and 1937 the tank remained in use. During that period 204 children died at the home. Corless admits that it now seems impossible to her that more than 200 bodies could have been put in a working sewage tank.

    Corless has proved that 796 children died while at St Mary’s in Tuam – a shameful statistic that would not have been known without her years of dedicated work. It seems clear that at least some of these children lie in the small plot of land at the back of the Dublin Road housing estate. Excavation might be the only way to be sure.

    Which is where Anmesty and their friends come in….

    Notice too the Guardian fanning the flames – another slavish follower of Foreign Office line and purveyor of all manner of psy-ops, from Snowden and Assange downwards, upon the soi-disant liberal (ho ho ho) classes.
    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jun/04/children-galway-mass-graves-ireland-catholic-church

    #9839
    xileffilex
    Participant

    I am interested in the process of acquiring the 796 death certs. Since Corless spent 4×796, conveniently, on the project there was clearly no waste – wrong certs, wrong places, etc etc.

    Between 2011 and 2013 Corless paid €4 each time to get the children’s publicly available death certificates. She says the total cost was €3,184.

    We don’t see any of these certificates. [very cheap to acquire these in Eire, would have cost almost three times that in England….]

    How did she alight on these deaths as being related to the home? There is no possble way this could have been done in England and Wales with such precision. What was Corless’ “publicly available source”? How were they abstracted such that Corless could identfy them?

    The statement reads: “In 1961 the Home was closed. All records were returned to the local authority, and would now be within the Health Service Executive, Co Galway.

    http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/deeply-saddened-bon-secours-sisters-welcome-tuam-mother-and-baby-investigation-632622.html
    Note the use of the term “mass graves” in the piece

    #9840
    Avatar photoTom Dalpra
    Participant

    ml

    Children at Sean Ross Abbey in Tipperary are thought to have been used in secret drug trials in the 1930s

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2650475/More-mass-baby-graves-Ireland-Prime-Minister-Enda-Kenny-orders-investigation-memorial-800-dead-babies-planned.html

    You ask if anyone else had been ‘following this garbage’ psyopticon? No, as it happens, I hadn’t. But one look and I have to say, it’s rather a big pile of garbage that, isn’t it?

    Blimey O’Reilly, Holy Maloney, Mother of God, Be Jesus and God help us! 796DEAD BABIES – NUNS – SEPTIC TANK- EXPERIMENTED ON?!- Buried in a MASS grave! – This shapes up like Paddy’s fuckin’ Treblinka.

    ”800 dead Irish babies, slaughtered by Nazi Nuns, Shocker”. Give em whatever they want. Smiles all round.

    kd

    Corless paid for the 796 publicly available death certificates. 4 EUROS each. ( three times that in the UK you say xileffilex, wow). Not so much ‘dedicated research’, as an expensive way to gain publicly available information. She’s got the receipt, it comes very neatly to exactly 3,184 euros.

    The maths is all there. It’s a scandal!

    DalTampra

    #9871
    Fakeologist
    Keymaster

    Apparently everyone is following this story – in Ireland. The blog’s stats are blowing through the roof right now. Let’s hope the servers can take the strain!

    The puppet Irish government for its part is admitting its own culpability in these (fake) baby deaths. Which sets the ball rolling nicely for huge compensation payouts to non-existent families. A grander swindle you could not conceive!

    Anyone else following this garbage?

    #9878
    Fakeologist
    Keymaster

    All the Tuam Babies traffic is coming from this person’s tweet. Perhaps someone following this could elaborate on this tweeter’s story.

    #9883
    Avatar photoTom Dalpra
    Participant

    Domestically, the PsyOp narrative is being driven by RTE journalist Philip Boucher-Hayes. Boucher-Hayes is reportedly employed as a radio investigator by RTE – the Irish state broadcaster. But he claims here to be “investigating independently” of his government employer. Boucher-Hayes, whose photographs seem a bit simmy (see below), has been quoted hundreds of times in world media reports on the PsyOp. His handlers are also running a 24/7 “Twitter feed” (hashtag: #tuambabies)

    I wonder if the pronunciation is Boo Shay?

    DalTampra

    #9884
    xileffilex
    Participant

    Have a look at these blog posts, Ab

    http://philipboucher-hayes.com/2014/06/04/tuam-babies-the-evidence/

    1) The testimony of Frannie Hopkins “He is credible, has no reason to lie and is supported by other eye witnesses. It suffices to say his evidence proves there are bodies there. But how many and belonging to who?”

    2) BMD own records “Asked to retrieve records like the death certificate above for all the deaths that occurred there while the nuns were running it this state agency came up with a list of 796 names. So this figure of 800 dead babies (which incidentally excludes the stillborn) has been generated, and double checked, by an arm of government”

    3) How do we know they’re all buried in the septic tank?

    We don’t….

    [how do we know how many are buried there?]

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    bealoideas
    June 7, 2014 at 3:07 pm

    Catherine Corless is distancing herself from the story. Now it appears there was 20 not 800 observed in the pit in 1975. The story has been a media fail.
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    Philip Boucher-Hayes
    June 8, 2014 at 2:46 pm

    You’re misquoting her. And she is not distancing herself from the facts established a) 796 died while in the nuns care b) Their burial places are unknown c) There’s bodies buried on the site of the home. She is distancing herself from poor reporting which has claimed she has proven the nuns buried 800 in a septic tank.

    more comments:

    Dave
    June 5, 2014 at 5:11 pm

    One of the many things that bothers me about this case is the fact that they where all dumped in the tank, over a long stretch of time – surely this means that it was opened up every time a new body was to be added to it?
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    Jimmy
    June 7, 2014 at 1:52 pm

    I had thought the same thing. It seems implausible. The site of the ‘Home’ is now a housing estate with the burial ground surrounded by houses.To me it seems more likely that during the construction of the housing estate all the bones that were put into the septic tank by the contractor.
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    Jimmy Armstrong
    June 7, 2014 at 1:56 pm

    I thought the same thing. It seems unlikely. The site of the ‘Home’ is now a housing estate and the burial ground is surrounded by houses.It seems plausible that during construction of the estate that the bones were put in the septic tank by the contractors as the area was bound to have been disturbed during construction.

    http://philipboucher-hayes.com/2014/06/05/tuam-nothing-to-see-here-move-along-now-please/

    Well, what then? We have seen nothing even lightly convincing to move along from so far.

    #9885
    xileffilex
    Participant

    BTW that doesn’t look like Eur 3,184 worth of death certs on the table.

    #9886
    Avatar photoeviledna
    Participant

    What could be the motive for this PsyOp – other than a general anti-Catholic pogrom?

    Maybe City of London interests are planning to muscle in on the €16 billion a year health & social care industry in Ireland? An industry that’s currently dominated by the Sisters of Bon Secours and other religious orders. This silly story is sure to undermine public confidence in Bon Secours, and in the Catholic church in general. Loosening up the public for a corporate takeover of Irish healthcare by City vultures? (which is exactly what’s happening in Britain too.)

    Today’s Irish Mail-on-Sunday (run from London) carries another gory front page on this “mass graves” nonsense; it seems the nuns were throwing the dead mothers in the septic tank too, donchaknow! ‘Twas full to the brim with skeletons, one (anonymous) witness told the Daily Mail. Sure!

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    And inside today’s Irish Daily Grot are a couple of implausible letters, purportedly written in the 1960s. Supposedly penned by (semi-literate) nuns at the Co. Tipperary children’s home mentioned by Tom above.

    Pretty much everything is wrong with these letters; they flunk the basic scratch-and-sniff test.


    From: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2651766/We-need-dig-babies-graves-Ground-Penetrating-Radar-reveals-lies-beneath-Tuam-Home-site.html

    Note the date of the letter above; it was pointedly written on the Feast Day of St Vincent de Paul (July 19th). A coincidence too far?!

    For those outside Ireland, St Vincent de Paul (SVP) features big in the country. The St Vincent de Paul Society is Ireland’s largest charity, and it’s run by the Catholic church.

    Of all the days in the year to write a letter, and one that’s so damning of the Catholic church in Ireland, it had to be penned on St. VDP Day! A double anti-Catholic whammy cooked up by the loons at PsyOp Central?!

    There’s also a gauche effort to weave that sense of hypocritical Catholic piety into the fake letter. Pushing the notion that Protestant [children’s] Homes are inferior – presumably to further inflame anti-Catholic sentiment among the wider readership.

    Notably, there isn’t a single nun identified in these letters. Wouldn’t the “sister-in-charge” use her personal name in such formal correspondence about the adoption of a child? And who was the “Rev’d Mother”, and why is she not referenced by her real name either?

    The religious salutations in these letters don’t feel right either (“God and Mary be with you”).. Hmm.. Mightn’t we expect a closing blessing that’s a whole lot deeper and more profound? The letter was, after all, supposedly written by someone who’s dedicated her life to the church. Yet what we get is flippant religious tokenism, like the sort of passing cheer you get from a heather-selling person on the roadside! Does that tell us more about the background to the psyoperatives who cooked up these silly letters?!

    Also note the very damaged embossed stamp at the headers of these letters. Why are they so damaged? Was the genuine stamp too difficult to fake for some reason? Or perhaps Nutwork had no clear original to copy, so had to pretend that the embossings were damaged to cover that up?

    These letters also have an “overly fatigued” feel to them; as if the hands behind them tried a little too hard to artificially age them, with fake creases, folds, fading and stains, etc.

    Lastly, googling that Tipperary children’s home (Sean Ross Abbey) – the next place on the PsyOp agenda – and we find the weirdest “photos” supposedly taken inside it.

    Is it just me, or do these “photos” look totally un-real?

    Faceless nuns in habits! Spooky! Are they real or just paper cutouts?
    And all those cots, wheeled en-masse outside – really?!
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    And another one – more faceless nuns in habits! That second one back barely looks humanoid!
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    And what’s this weird one about? Grim looking creatures – blokes dragged-up maybe?! Could easily be out of a Dave Allen sketch! Loving that flat-topped nun on the far right – the Herman Munster of the order!

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    Last of the silly snaps:
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    More creepy looking nuns, but hats off to the faux-to-grapher! Choreographing all those poor little eejits to sit up in their cots and, in unison, face the lens! Cheese!

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    #9887
    xileffilex
    Participant
    #9888
    Avatar photoeviledna
    Participant

    Oh God, there’s more?!

    The comments alongside the faux-tos are equally fanciful:

    Rose Rodgers

    I remember this room and the cots so well, I use to climb out of my cot at night and walk towards the light, looking for love….

    Hmm..

    #9902
    Avatar photoTom Dalpra
    Participant

    Daily Mail – ”Anomalies’ in the soil indicate likely human activity beneath the surface’.

    Mmmm Very likely human activity.

    Maybe City of London interests are planning to muscle in on the €16 billion a year health & social care industry in Ireland? An industry that’s currently dominated by the Sisters of Bon Secours and other religious orders. This silly story is sure to undermine public confidence in Bon Secours, and in the Catholic church in general. Loosening up the public for a corporate takeover of Irish healthcare by City vultures? (which is exactly what’s happening in Britain too.)

    Great analysis psyopticon, I think.

    The letter you posted too from the Nuns regarding children for adoption? -It reads and looks like a blatant contrivance to me.
    It’s as if we’re being talked to like children. How bad can they try and make it look? The gist of it really is – ‘Please answer by return of post what age you want- we’re very busy with this stuff. We’ve got a couple of lovely young boys just fresh in. We got them with extreme difficulty from some protestant homes in England, so they’ve got really good breeding’.

    Pfff! Haha! It reads like the script of some shallow – historical dramatisation. Yeh, yeh, we get the story.

    ————————————————-
    How Ireland has changed.
    ”muscle in on the €16 billion a year health and social care industry in Ireland? An industry that’s currently dominated by the Sisters of Bon Secours and other religious orders”

    Looking at Boucher-Hayes’ ( or is it Boo Shay Haze – I love a bit of belvoir, myself) Twitter page last night, my eyes were drawn ( as they are) to the word Psiopa as I passed over the thumbnails at the top.

    Actually, Sex Siopa. (Siopa meaning shop, in Irish. I didn’t know.)
    – ”Ireland’s first health & design focused sex shop. Winner of 2013 Realex Fire Web Award for Best eCommerce site!”

    As I sat there, staring at five colourful dildos and a set of balls,
    juxtaposed some young lady, I could really see new Ireland.

    kj

    ”Body safe toys for everyone’. EVERYONE?? Ok, I’ll entertain the idea… They could be I suppose, but please DO wash them before you use them if the kids have been playing with them. They’re colourful, they’re fun, well designed, harmless and healthy and environmentally friendly, but it would strike me as body un -safe, if you didn’t wash them after one of the children had one in the garden. Also I’m still somewhat awkward with children between the ages of 6-13 using them.
    I suppose you can just leave them lying around from when they’re young and they just become part of normal life – they accept them – they’re just toys. It’s probably healthy- this new Ireland.

    hy

    Health and design based sex shop. Ireland’s first. Look, I’m a now sort of guy. I’ll have four of the small pink ones, we’ll see how the family goes with them.

    Sex Siopa…please excuse my somewhat hysterical ( in it’s medical sense) diversion.
    ———————————–

    For the record. Checking back on Mr Boucher-Hayes’ twitter feed today, I see he removed his original tweet yesterday and replaced it with another – simply saying:-

    ”You can add this to the increasingly long list of things I’m guilty of: PsyOps to undermine the state http://fakeologist.com/forums/topic/tuam-babies-psyop/ …” 3 re tweets 5 favourites

    The one from yesterday implicating Colm O’Gorman’s direct involvement and the ensuing conversation is gone.

    DalTampra

    #9908
    xileffilex
    Participant

    While the blog of Philip Bo O’Shea Hayes has gone quiet all of a sudden, we now have one of the most content-free timelines I have ever seen, just published…
    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/st-marys-scandal-began-90-years-ago-30340957.html
    may, believed, could….
    Dem bones….

    #9923
    xileffilex
    Participant

    Now the hoax is mainstream BBC news. What kept tt – it loves reporting this kind of story?

    The Irish government is considering an inquiry after the remains of nearly 800 children were discovered in an unmarked grave at a former home for unmarried mothers run by the Catholic Church.

    The remains were interred in a concrete septic tank in the grounds of the home in Tuam, County Galway.

    What exactly has been discovered so far? That Corless spent “nearly EUR3,200 of her own money, allegedly?

    “I was staggered and I was shocked because there’s a total number of 796 babies, children and toddlers buried in one mass grave there on that site.”

    Funds are now being raised to erect a permanent memorial to the dead children.

    ….

    As John Lowe, another member of the committee, explained this week at the site of the former home, the group’s aim is to raise €15,000 for a plaque with all the names of the children on it. So far they have raised €7,000, and €2,000 has been paid for initial drawings of the plaque.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=90777431
    Oh dear, shades of 9/11

    #9998
    Avatar photoBlackVeil
    Member

    Very good points here.

    Greetings everyone – I am new to the forum.

    It is startling that this totally undocumented story about a mass grave of infants (but no one can say exactly where it is), has hit the international media with speed and sensationalism. The instant uproar over the story does indicate some agenda at work.

    In terms of psych-ops, I would like to point out the meaning of the name of town – Tuam. We keep hearing of the “Tuam babies.” Tuam means burial ground, and it refers to this meaning in both Latin and Celtic.

    That’s right. The media has run wild with a story about a burial ground, in a town whose name means … burial ground. OK then …

    From wiki:

    “The record of human settlement in Tuam dates back to the Bronze Age when an area adjacent to Shop Street was used as a burial ground. The name Tuam is a cognate with the Latin term tumulus (burial mound). The town’s ancient name was Tuaim Dá Ghualann, i.e. the burial mound of two shoulders.”

    #10002
    xileffilex
    Participant

    Now weno longer have a septic tank – job having been done – now we have a tunnel….
    http://philipboucher-hayes.com/2014/06/12/tuam-new-understanding/#comments

    Plot A is the square shaped one Mary Moriarty says she fell into in the 1970’s when the ground subsided. A child was found playing with a baby’s skull and when Mary and neighbours investigated she discovered a large underground space with shelves from floor to ceiling stacked with infant bodies. She says she saw in excess of 100 tiny figures swaddled and guessed from the size they were newborn or stillborn.

    Subsequently she talked to a woman called Julia Devaney who had been a resident of the home and later an employee. By then in her late seventies she told Mary how she had assisted the nuns carrying dead babies along a tunnel running from the back of the home to this vault.

    Now obviously it will take excavation to confirm any of this……Albeit untested and unproven this is significant anecdotal evidence from within the home that the nuns were burying children in these sites.

    Hmmmm
    Must have been soooo easy to see all those stacked shelves in the 70s. So easy today also….

    #10006
    Avatar photoTom Dalpra
    Participant

    What?! Talk about a changing story.
    Now we have 100 mummified, stillborn babies, stacked on shelves in a vault?!
    (So small, presumably remains will be hard to find).

    Mary Moriarty fell in a hole in the 70’s and saw it. She was investigating after a child found a babies’ skull.
    Wow, this stuff is Stephen King quality now. The Septic tank wasn’t romantic enough, perhaps?

    Presumably the hole was then filled-in, burying the tunnel. The area is acknowledged as a childrens’ graveyard anyway, so any exhumation will likely reveal some remains.
    ”Look! It was true!”.

    Personally I was mildly surprised that Phillip Boucher-Hayes posted the fakeologist link to Amnesty Inmternational’s Colm Gorman. The small burst of activity on this site exposed those people to a rare dose of incisive (psyopticon) truth, I think.
    He subsequently removed that first post to Gorman. Was it really cool to have posted that? I mean how often does a cluesforum link make a mainstream journo’s and an Amnesty man’s twitter feed? Perhaps we see a certain level of innocence here from B-H? I’m not sure he really ‘gets it’. We see perhaps, a quirky situation where psyopticon actually knows more about what he’s really involved with, than he does? You can tell him straight and he doesn’t believe you.

    An agent? An unwitting one, effectively, it would seem to me. And isn’t that just the way it works?

    DalTampra

    #10013
    Avatar photoBlackVeil
    Member

    Now weno longer have a septic tank – job having been done – now we have a tunnel….
    Must have been soooo easy to see all those stacked shelves in the 70s. So easy today also….

    Indeed – and the Moriaty evidence suggests that someone fell through the roof of a crypt. If that were so, it would need a major construction repair job, and there would be memories and records of this. It would be easy indeed to verify – as you say – to this day.

    But somehow, I do not think it will all be so easy to document.

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