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  • in reply to: More Grisly Grizzlies #859013

    Loses face, lost face….it’s one big joke. Who writes these scripts?

    Bear attack hoaxing seems well supported by both the State and the Press globally – and while the most “juicy” imagery is promoted through the more unreliable elements in the press, they do equally act with the backing of “serious” sources.

    The fact the Wes Perkins bear-attack hoax happened some time ago already makes the imagery particularly poor imo. When it comes to the most often incredulous storylines – one of the major problems clearly would be that the history of Grizzly bear attacks in reality all build on fake narratives like Hugo Glass “The Revenant”.

    If Wes Perkins would try to “make a difference” in the long line of fairytale bear-survival stories, it is clear he would need to invent a new angle* – which in Wes Perkins case lead to overdo the severity a normal human would be able to withstand.

    The “SuperHero” attitude of most bear-attack vicsims is quite predictable as is their need for help with expenses in the aftermath. From 911 we have learnt that Firemen are very prone to be part of hoaxes, and therefore not surprising Wes Perkins got help with his hoax-aftermath by Nome Fire Department for gathering undue funds.

    Regarding the press coverage of the fake bear-attack on Perkins, not only unreliable outlets like The Daily Mail & Maul were involved, but also “credible” sources like Reuters, State Department of Fish and Game, Alaska State Troopers, Nome Hospital, Nome Fire Department and Harborview Medical Center in Seattle.

    Bear hunter severely mauled by grizzly

    *memes such as “lost his face” was also used for 2016 victim Lee Brooke who lost his nose and upper lip (moustache) in his Grizzly bear encounter

    in reply to: More Grisly Grizzlies #859009

    Year : 2011 (May 16)
    Attack : Grizzly bear (bear shot dead same day)
    Victim : Wesley Perkins (54)
    Location : Seward Peninsula, Alaska, USA
    Injuries : Serious face and head injuries, hand
    The use of special effects (SFX) in the case of Wes Perkins overly brutal 2011 Grizzly bear attack seems quite apparent as the effects used in the “crime-scene” imagery are too severe to believe on their own, and particularly when related to the improbable narrative.

    In Perkins case it should be straightforward to detect the blatant SFX effects, and the rather catchy narrative of “losing his face” in a bear attack equally seems like a bear-violence meme that accompany several staged Grizzly attacks on humans.

    The fact Wes Perkins can be seen posing on his snowmobile with the “dead” bear also hurts the credibility of this particular story – it is of course ludicrous. Not only does Wes Perkins injuries look heavily photo-shopped, but it is quite clear the dead bear isn’t a real animal and thus might be added to the series of giant teddybears used by “reputable” Trophy hunters*.

    ” The bear – a huge boar – grabbed Wes by the head. It tore loose his lower jaw, ripped loose teeth, removed “half of his tongue” and damaged his left eye socket, Nate said. Doctors are hopeful they can save the eye. Wes, a well-known and popular figure in Nome, is expected to survive. ”

    ” Perkins was surprisingly coherent when help arrived, the helicopter pilot said. He indicated his leg and arm were hurt but was unable to talk with medics because of severe injuries to his face and mouth. ”
    Anchorage Daily News

    closeup of Wes Perkins face after Grizzly attack loosing his face
    Closeup of Wes Perkins after Grizzly bear attack with his face “lost”

    Wes Perkins on Snowmobile face missing and deadgrizzly bear
    Wes Perkins apparently posing on his Snowmobile with half his face missing and ready to drive to the hospital himself, just after catching up & killing the grisly bear,,,

    Wes Perkins after Grizzly attack with missing face
    Wes Perkins on “the scene” after Grizzly attack with his “Face/Off” (1997 film)

    Wes Perkins after 26 surgeries and more than a $1 million in medical expenses
    Wes Perkins after 26 surgeries and more than a $1 million in medical expenses

    As can be noticed from a number of previous media-hoaxes, the aftermath will often include some type of commercial exploitation. The most common for victims of fake violence and crime will be to use various types of fundraising demands for either medical expenses, family support or funeral fees.

    In Wes Perkins case there is an interesting twist to his fundraising efforts as the bear-centric newsoutlet “The Daily Maul” seems to act in synergy with the obvious commercial exploitation as they publish a polarising stance on the Perkins fundraiser initiative forcing the public for taking a stance for or against animal violence thus donating to either one of two fundraiser evils : “Adopt a Bear” or “Donation to Wes Perkins & his family”

    ” Wes Perkins is from Alaska, and he knows he’s lucky. Life is good, but it will never be the same after the unfortunate bear attack that nearly cost him his life.
    26 surgeries and more than $1 million accumulated in medical suspenses later, Wes is getting along. He’s not the man he once was, but he’s still very appreciative to be alive. ”
    Wide Open Spaces

    ” Today, I’m encouraging you, dear reader, to make a donation, in the grizzly bear’s memory, to Defenders of Wildlife. One way to do so is to “Adopt a Brown Bear. ”
    David Brensilver – The Daily Maul

    Fundraiser for Wes Perkins by the Nome Volunteer Fire Department
    The Nome Nugget – Alaska’s Oldest Newspaper
    Fundraiser for Wes Perkins, organised by the Nome Volunteer Fire Department

    Donate Funds in Memory of Grizzly Bear — Not on Behalf of “Bear-Mauling Victim”

    The Seattle Times
    Grizzly bear attack sends Alaskan to Seattle hospital

    Anchorage Daily News
    Heroic response saved Alaska bear mauling victim

    Anchorage Daily News
    Life’s good for Alaskan who lost face in grizzly bear attack

    Wide Open Spaces
    Man loses Face in Alaskan grizzly bear attack but considers himself Lucky to be Alive

    American Shooting Journal
    Man Survives Bear Attack but Loses Face

    Brown Bear Mauling Victim Responsive and Healing

    *article on “reputable” Trophy hunters here:
    Shooting Teddybears

    in reply to: More Grisly Grizzlies #859008
    In many media hoaxes where violence is at the core of the script as in the case of contrived Grizzly bear maulings, the visuals used to affect the public are conscientiously staged to a sometimes persuasively realistic level.

    The ability to mimic injuries mainly relies on Special Effects (SFX) Scar & Wound Makeup techniques. Although it is understandable this type of artistry can pass well on film and photo, most will intuitively be skeptic about such effects actually looking realistic in live action or for a live/real audience*.

    With the number of fake news-stories we come across as Fakeologists, it is apparent that professional SFX artists do often work behind the scenes in media-hoaxes and that their performance at times will be difficult to detect as the combined performance of SFX Scar & Wound Makeup and post-production image-alterations can be very realistic.

    Important to remember here that the production of fake images goes as far back as to the invention of photography itself, and that the required forgery skills would be protected in every way possible. The expenses necessary to ensure high quality fake violence imagery would probably preclude most Grizzly-on-human media productions that mainly look amateurish and low budget (from the examples studied so far in this thread).

    shaune harrison academy facial wounds
    Facial injuries example from Shaune Harrison Academy (Liverpool, UK)

    Benito Garcia Special Effects Guide for injuries and wounds
    SFX Guide of Real Wounds and Injuries (website)

    Easy Special Effects Wound tutorial – CRC Makeup
    CRC Makeup – 23 Oct 2014 – 919K views

    Bear Attack FX Makeup Tutorial Inspired by The Revenant
    Glam&Gore – 20 Jan 2016 – 1.4M views

    BEAR ATTACK / Halloween SFX Makeup Tutorial
    Karolina Maria – 2 Oct 2019 – 60K views

    *in Lee Brooke’s case (here) from 2016, the damage was that severe it really seems to challenge SFX makeup performance as his deformations are significant and that he not only feature in imagery, but also on film and apparently in front of live audiences

    in reply to: More Grisly Grizzlies #858991

    In the above list of Grizzly bear victims, there is only one case of a death due to a captive Grizzly bear – Stephan Miller (2008, April 22nd).

    Captive bears were much more prominent attacking humans earlier, as over two decades so far in 21st century, there is just one victim (2000-2019). Most attacks from Grizzly bears in captive state actually happened in a very short period of time – all in the USA from 1930-1945 (12 victims).

    Hereunder all victims of Captive Grizzlies from 1900 till today:
    2008, Apr 04 – Stephan Miller, 39, male
    1969, Mar 03 – Russell Ringer, 49, male
    1956, Oct 10 – Paul Lemery, 28, male
    1945, Sep 09 – Richard Strand, 8, male
    1942, Dec 12 – Richard Havemann, 68, male
    1941, Jun 06 – Thomas Miller, 28, male
    1936, Oct 10 – George Langley, 55, male
    1936, Oct 10 – James Virtue, 68, male
    1934, Nov 11 – Clarence Staley, 54, male
    1934, Nov 11 – William Thomas “Bill” Brown Jr, 64, male
    1934, Jul 07 – Charles Wyman, 76, male
    1933, Oct 10 – Grant Taylor, 11, male
    1932, Oct 10 – Peter Matthew Ryan, 5, male
    1932, Jul 07 – Thomas Earl, 56, male
    1930, Jun 06 – Emerson Joyce, 60, male
    If we just look at the number of American Zoo’s (over 400), it is clear that after the first Zoo in Philadelphia opened in 1874 the high count of victim deaths in the 1930s could be due to the massive deployment of animal parks during that period. Negative advertising through heavy press-coverage is quite effective as it raises attention and curiosity.

    In a similar fashion to how American Zoo’s might have popularised their venues and fascinated the general public with in part media-hoaxes, there was recently (2009, Brown bear) a suspect event in Bern Bear Park* in Switzerland just after they reopened their venue having spent considerable money renovating.

    The video scenes from both the latest captive Grizzly murder of Stephan Miller (2008) and Bern Bear Park’s non-lethal mauling have similarities in their video coverage as both incidents show very aggressive, predatory bears seemingly bite and tear their victims obsessively without there being any significant bodily harm such as limbs torn off, chunks of meat chewed or even any open fracture.

    911 call Bear kills a man Warning graphic content
    Jan 5, 2014 – 108K views

    Huge Grizzly Attack a Man in Swiss Zoo
    L’ Originale – 4 Feb 2016 – 5K views

    The videos of both Brown bear attacks hereover are quite believable on the surface from what we as a public know about this animal. The inflicted injuries are however incompatible with the force and ferocity we lend to these animals through popular culture such as “The Revenant” (2015), “Grizzly Man” (2005) or “Night of The Grizzlies” (1969).

    Exactly how a violent bear-attack video could be staged is difficult to know precisely, but the most conventional method would be to use a well-trained bear. The difficulty with using an animal* the size of a grizzly is however that they would have the force to potentially tear of a trainer’s leg or head, and/or at the least inflict serious damage.

    *Bern is a historical “bear” city with a bear on their city seal and a bear-pit opened as early as 1857, before there even was any American Zoo.

    *the next best solution to using an animal would be to fake the bear altogether which might seem too hard to achieve, but what emerges in my research so far is that very advanced bear suits do exist that are so well performing as to have clinching eyes, licking tongues and saliva together with true-to-nature teeth, claws and fur. Some examples of bears suspect of being played by men-in-suits; Pedals the walking bear, Johnny Walker, NJ Zoo bears and Timo the trumpet playing soccer bear (to mention but a few suspect occurrences)

    in reply to: More Grisly Grizzlies #858990

    But sometimes “nobody died” grizzly attacks can produce some good copy

    Indeed, many survival stories are clearly very violent and overly graphic such as the example of Hugh Glass, even moreso than lethal attacks where we see little of the evidence presented in writing.

    When investigating the veracity of Grizzly bear attacks, we will be quite dependent of press-material and especially imagery from the crime-scene and injuries, which there is not much of when men are killed – unless of course the victim brought a camera*.

    From looking into bears and here Grizzly bears, it is nevertheless clear that many of the reported incidents and fatalities that are included in National Safety reports and figures are falsified.

    Statistics do go a far way back, but diligent research on contemporary cases might help establish whether there is such a thing as a verifiable Grizzly bear incident or not (say in the 21st century) – and if not all prior cases would equally be impossible to sustain as veridic.

    ” Despite the story’s popularity, its accuracy has been disputed. It was first recorded in 1825 in The Port Folio, a Philadelphia literary journal, as a literary piece and later picked up by various newspapers. Although originally published anonymously, it was later revealed to be the work of James Hall, brother of The Port Folio’s editor. There is no writing from Hugh Glass himself to corroborate the veracity of it. ”
    Hugh Glass Wikipedia page

    The advantage of having the Wikipedia “death-list” is of course that we have the names of the victims and that there is no discrepancy as far as i’ve established between the official number of victims and the victims that feature on the Wiki list.

    Hereunder the 30 victims so far (2000-2019) accounted for as Grizzly bear (Brown bear) attacks:
    2019 (Aug 15) – Julien Gauthier, 44, male
    2018 (Nov 26) – Adele Roesholt, 10 months, female
    2018 (Nov 26) – Valérie Théorêt, 37, female
    2018 (Oct 01) – Anthony David Montoya, 18, male
    2018 (Sep 14) – Mark Uptain, 37, male
    2018 (Jun 19) – Mike Soltis, 44, male
    2016 (Jun 29) – Brad Treat, 38, male
    2015 (Aug 07) – Lance Crosby, 63, male
    2014 (Oct 14) – Claudia Huber, 42, female
    2014 (Sep 17) – Ken Novotny, 53, male
    2014 (Sep 07) – Rick Cross, 54, male
    2014 (Sep 04) – Adam Thomas Stewart, 31, male
    2012 (Aug 24) – Richard White, 49, male
    2012 (Jan 10) – Tomas Puerta, 54, male
    2011 (Aug 24) – John Wallace, 59, male
    2011 (Jul 06) – Brian Matayoshi, 57, male
    2010 (Jul 28) – Kevin Kammer, 48, male
    2010 (Jun 17) – Erwin Frank Evert, 70, male
    2008 (Oct 01) – Robert Wagner, 48, male
    2008 (Apr 22) – Stephan Miller, 39, male
    2007 (Nov 25) – Don Peters, 51, male
    2006 (Apr 28) – Jean-François Pagé, 28, male
    2005 (Sep 20) – Arthur Louie, 60, male
    2005 (Jun 23) – Rich Huffman, 61, male
    2005 (Jun 23) – Kathy Huffman, 58, female
    2005 (Jun 05) – Isabelle Dubé, 35, female
    2003 (Oct 05) – Timothy Treadwell, 46, male
    2003 (Oct 05) – Amie Huguenard, 37, female
    2001 (Oct 30) – Timothy Hilston, 50, male
    2000 (Jul 14) – George Tullos, 41, male
    Some of the victims succumbed during the same incident as in the case of Adele Roesholt and her infant daughter (Valérie Théorêt), or Timothy Treadwell the Grizzly man & Amie Huguenard.

    Each of the above incident are well worth revisiting, and i do believe that the “Grizzly Man” media hoax (or not according to Tokarski) was covered on the Piece Of Mind blog previously (here) where we learnt Gaia’s father ran/runs a bear foundation for abandoned Balkan bears in Holland – now re-baptized to “Bear In Mind“.

    *a grizzly bear victim (Richard White) who did bring the camera:

    Hiker Photographs Grizzly Bear Just Before Deadly Attack
    ABC News – 28 Aug 2012 – 752K views

    in reply to: More Grisly Grizzlies #858987

    Researching Grizzly bear on human violence normally would limit the scope of study (geographically, historically and quantitatively) as bears are plentiful Worldwide and has a long history of human interaction.

    The fact Grizzlies are limited to North America makes this big and ferocious bear pertinent to study in particular. The most prominent specialist researcher in the field of North American bears is Stephen Herrero, whose in-depth 1976 study is the most cited reference in regards to human-bear violence.

    Conflicts between Man and Grizzly Bears in the National Parks of North America
    January 1976 – DOI: 10.2307/3872761

    Violence in regards to bear-mauling is split into three categories (Polar Bear, Brown bear, Black bear) as there are only three species of bears currently present in North America. The Grizzly is a Brown bear just like the Kodiak bear and these are local variations (some contend sub-species) of the Brown bear.

    The apparently detailed research on Brown bear violence on humans in N. America is on inspection rather shallow and the figures for bear-on-human violence both hard to read and verify – especially early cases of manslaughter.

    Fortunately there is a quite detailed Wikipedia page that contains a list of deaths incurred from bear-on-human violence going all the way back to 1784, at which point the presumed cases reads more like a novel than actual information.

    “The child was sent to a pasture with a horse, and was attacked by a three-year-old bear. Leach, on arrival finding the bear holding his son by the throat, struck the bear with a stake. The bear withdrew, dragging the boy with him. A search was mounted the next day, and the corpse of the boy was discovered, partially devoured. The bear rose from behind a nearby log, and was killed by three gunshots.”
    victim: Son of Mr. Leach, 8, male

    List of fatal bear attacks in North America

    Most of bear violence on humans is not lethal, so the Wikipedia list of human loss to bears does not cover any other type of violence than fatalities. However, there is a group of fatalities from bears in captive state (Zoo, Circus etc.) in the above Wikipedia entry that does not feature in scientific studies, and that still represent Grizzly bear on human violence.

    The Grizzly / Brown bear attacks on human while in captivity is not geographically delimited as are wild Grizzly violence, still i would consider all Grizzly mauling as relevant and regardless of location in the case of Grizzly bears in captivity.

    in reply to: More Grisly Grizzlies #858960

    What the heck was a grizzly doing out this late in the season??? […]

    The inconsitency of bear-behaviour is rather incomprehensible, and when it comes to bear behavioral patterns, the experts are more often than not bear-trainers whose animals in many occasions are suspect of being faked – like Tima the circus bear who kicked off a Russian football game in spring 2018.

    From what we know of Grizzly bears thanks to wildlife biologists (i.e. Donivan Campbell above) and bear behavioral specialists (i.e. Mark Matheny above), bears are in deep sleep during winter and don’t even defecate or urinate for 5-7 months.

    So to run into Grizly bear during winter should be rather hard. It would be equally hard to observe a bear coming out of the forest in the dark, which is what Nick Bullock confirms on his blog:

    “And to reiterate, it was pitch black, the bear was in full flow and metres away…”
    Nick Bullock (Greg Boswell partner) on his blog

    ” Greg Boswell, one of Scotland’s leading winter climbers, has survived an attack by a grizzly bear in the Canadian Rockies. Boswell was climbing together with English partner Nick Bullock and the two were negotiating the difficult approach to Dirty Love, an unrepeated 500m M7 alpine outing put up by Jon Walsh, Audrey Gariepy and Raphael Slawinski in 2008 on Mt Wilson, when a bear appeared out of the forest. ”
    Planet Mountain article, 1st Dec 2015

    To be able to make sense of such contrasting information and accounts is very difficult, and it makes the story as a whole more than hard to believe, and rather very probably untrue.

    What equally comes across as very amateurish, is how all newsreports and direct information about the accident comes from the victims blog and facebook pages. If anyone get serious injuries, they clearly would not take care of themselves but rather be left in professionnal care in a hospital where a proper police or national park incident report would be made.

    In the lack of any confirmation about injuries and/or recorded official testimony, it is quite outlandish that Banff National Park would close off a large part of the park from merely reports of a facebook and blog post. Yet, a large part of Mount Wilson was indeed closed – in less than 48h…

    Parks Canada 2015 closure of Mount Wilson
    ” A closure is in place on Mount Wilson after two climbers were attacked by a grizzly bear. PARKS CANADA “

    The effect of this suspect occurence of a grim Grizzly attack during hibernation would not only concern those who follow the newscoverage of the event (and Cinema Revenant news), but more importantly impact anyone who in the following months would go hiking in Canadian National parks (Mount Wilson was to be closed unntill summer).

    News stories around even minor, happy-ending events such as Greg Boswell close-encounter with a hibernating Grizzly bear does involve a whole ecosystem of complicit parties for such a possible staged event to unfold as in this case.

    Climbers attacked by bear in the Rockies
    CTV News – 2 Dec 2015 – 1K vievs

    in reply to: More Grisly Grizzlies #858954

    Year : 2019 (Sept 16)
    Attack : Grizly bear (unknown)
    Victim : Donivan ‘Donno’ Campbell
    Location : Gravelly Range, Montana, USA
    Injuries : serious leg wounds (6 lacerations to his thigh)


    Grizzly bear attack
    KIRO 7 News – 24 Sep 2019 – 18 K views (full video here)

    In this Grizzly bear attack from September this year, we have multiple victims – some unnamed* – and we only have details about the most severe injuries on Donivan Campbell.

    The news coverage is rather scarce, and unreassuringly most feature in hunting magazines and outlets where the Grizzly attack account comes across as an infomercial – reminiscent of the automobile accidents covered in the “More Carrion” thread.

    Concurrent with the Colin Dowler case above, the injuries look poor forensically and seems very likely staged with special effects.

    Also noticeable in this case is the fact the victim is a wildlife biologist, and that the news and following Grizzly bear-warnings were handled by Montana Fish, Wildlife & Parks state officials in charge of the park.

    As this Grizzly bear attack was rather low-key in its media exploitation, what more natural than a GoFundMe campaign?

    ” Campbell and Gregersen are experienced hunters and outdoorsmen. As wildlife biologists, they are trained to notice certain indicators of wildlife. Their knowledge and preparedness to recreate in bear country contributed to their survival, but not nearly as much as hunting with a partner did. ”
    – The Madisonian

    Donivan Campbell with fellow wildlife biologist and elk hunting partner Chris Gregersen as he recovers in the hospital in Butte

    Donivan Campbell Grizzly bite wound
    Donivan Campbell with Grizzly bite wound in his thigh

    Grizzly injury safely stiched up – looks very fake & made with prosthetics

    Donivan Donno Go Fund Me campaign
    Donivan ‘Donno’ Campbell’s GoFundMe campaign (link here)

    NBC News
    Three hunters injured in two grizzly bear attacks in Montana

    The Madisonian
    Grizzlies in the Gravellys – Two bear attacks in the same area, on the same day

    USA Today
    Grizzly bear attack survivor recounts harrowing ordeal

    Pistols & Bear Spray Stop Two Bear Attacks on Archery Hunters in Montana

    Montana Gov. Official State Website
    3 hunters survive Gravelly Mountains grizzly attacks

    *hereunder, one of two unnamed hunters attacked the same day (16 Sep 2019) as Donivan Campbell – the photo supposedly was taken by Terri James from Shedhorn Sports where the injured hunters went to purchase new clothes – seemingly the injured hunters did not care to clean excess blood or wounds while shopping for clothes

    Unknown Grizzly bear victim 16 Sep 2019

    in reply to: More Grisly Grizzlies #858944

    Year : 2019 (July 29)
    Attack : Grizly bear (male, 350 pound, euthanized)
    Victim : Colin Dowler (54)
    Location : Powell River, British Columbia, Canada
    Injuries : Abdomen openeden, Leg bit to the bone

    Grizzly bear attack survivor describes what happened
    CBC News – 1 Aug 2019 – 59K views

    What makes Colin Dowler’s story hard to believe is the typical fake hero victim story where he not only gets bitten close to death, but fights off the animal with… a pocket knife !

    “He credits the pocketknife his dad gave him for helping to fend off the ravenous creature”
    – The Sun

    The overstaged hospital scenes with excessive tubing does not help either, the wounds do look very much like injury makeup. Despite the serious injuries, Dowler supposedly got back up on his bike to ride 7km to a logging camp where a helicopter and blood transfusion saved his life.

    BBC News
    Pocket knife saves Canadian man during grizzly bear attack

    Langley Advance Times
    UPDATE: ‘Predatory’ grizzly euthanized after B.C. man survives attack

    Outside Podcast
    Dispatches: The Wrong Way to Fight Off a Bear
    Colin Dowler in hospital bed recovering
    Colin Dowler in hospital bed recovering

    Colin Dowler crimescene
    Colin Dowler crimescene

    Colin Dowler Grizzly bite wounds on leg
    Colin Dowler Grizzly bite wounds on leg

    Colin Dowler Grizzly bite wounds on pocket-knife hand
    Colin Dowler Grizzly bite wounds on pocket-knife hand

    The knife that helped Colin Dowler fight off the big Grizzly bear
    The knife that helped Colin Dowler fight off the big Grizzly bear

    in reply to: THE JOE COX MURDER – BIRSTALL UK 16TH jUNE 2016 #858070

    A Holocaust UK Witness Conference clearly doesn’t incite for optimism about being told anything true, so having Riley speak at the event and doing interviews promoting the conference clearly indicate she’s quite in on the Shoah Business and the fraud of the Holocaust.

    The BBC radio interview with Rachel Riley is cringe-worthy, much like apologetic reasoning about how the Elite are just mindless actors unaware of being thoroughly dishonest and immoral.

    As mentioned above, the amount of Elite individuals who are aware of, and participate in public deception is quite significant. It is difficult to comprehend how so many people (Elite) justify their immoral behavior, but rather easy to determine the number of participant, professional liars is very high.

    As a non-UK citizen, i’m surprised at the extremely violent attacks on Brexit supporters overall as they are unduly vilified as racist and oftentimes “anti-Semites” if not “neo-Nazis”. The link from the Cox “murder” to Holocaust victimization does not appear happenstance either, which does make one wonder about the size of the Jewish lobby in Britain and UK politics.

    Holocaust Educational Trust - a large collection of dishonest, profiteering individuals
    Above the sponsors of the WitnessCon2019, the Holocaust Educational Trust (HET), a large collection of dishonest, profiteering individuals:

    Alberta Strage, Amy Gee, Anna Lloyd, Callum Devine, Catrina Kirkland, Charlotte Agran, Charlotte Richmond, Clementine Smith, Edward Lewin, Ella Rose, Emma Lewins, Hannah Lewis (MBE), Helen Hyde (DBE), Jenny Carson, Joanne Burton, Joe Hayman, Josie Turner, Karen Pollock (MBE), Kirsty McNeill, Kitty Hart-Moxon (OBE), Lady Merlyn-Rees JP, Lauren Clark, Lord Browne of Madingley, Lord Carey of Clifton (Most Rev and Rt Hon), Lord Dholakia (OBE DL), Lord Hunt of Wirral (Rt Hon, MBE), Lord Mackay of Clashfern (Rt Hon), Malka White, Marilyn Ofer, Martin Paisner (CBE), Martin Winstone, Michael Karp, Paul Berlyn, Paul Phillips, R. Stephen Rubin (OBE), Robert Lingard, Shoshana Copeland, Sir Ben Helfgott (MBE), Tom Jackson

    in reply to: THE JOE COX MURDER – BIRSTALL UK 16TH jUNE 2016 #858064

    Reading your post above, i first thought the photo was a vintage picture* of Celia & Christopher Riley…

    Rachel Riley’s two successive marriages indeed strike as strange, and her second marriage to BBC dance show partner Pasha Kovalev appear as quite purposeful for popularising “Strictly Come Dancing”.

    *the photo above features husband & wife Pasha Kovalev and Rachel Riley, now with child (also Jewish by matrilineality)

    in reply to: THE JOE COX MURDER – BIRSTALL UK 16TH jUNE 2016 #858061

    Screencapture of Riley from ITV’s Tonight programme teaser

    Rachel Riley lying about the Holocaust

    Check the first 40 seconds of this video interview with TV mathematical celeb Rachel Riley

    That is literally a pretty, good liar.

    Riley – lieyR  (“Riley” is an exact phonetic anagram of “liar”)

    Encoded names are of course quite common, and it is difficult to lend too much weight on these literary “coincidences”.

    The fact is however that the media-hoaxes we currently investigate always have been present in the media and clearly less scrutinized in a less informed/mediated world. How many individuals have to be complicit for the utterly contrived media to exist, and how are new, publicly dishonest individuals recruited?

    As deceiving public opinion clearly is a long lasting tradition, it is plausible this principle is reflected in those who perpetuates the tradition of public deception. As the general population would react poorly if overly dominant nepotism governed media and culture, the families that feed into the deceptive rule we live under have often changed their names (and often location) as to alleviate scrutiny and suspicion.

    With a tradition of changing names, it seems likely that when establishing such new names, that this procedure would be used in favour of the actual reason behind namechange which in these cases would be for deceptive purposes or even for particular planned roles. Hence, it is quite straightforward that such names would be encoded. Over time some of these names might become commonplace – like Riley.

    TV presenter Riley states having “Jewish heritance”, which in her case really means her mother Celia is Jewish – which makes her factually Jewish as family descent in Judaism (and among Jews generally) is matrilineal.

    Celia – Ce lai  (phonetic anagrams of Celia is “lie, lies and see”)

    in reply to: Men-are-bad/Gay-is-good steering media events #858054

    Looking further back, who’s this dude in 2015?

    The “2015 dude” seems identical to Geymonat’s earlier heterosexual couples picture that according to exif-data was shot in January 2012.

    Melania Geymonat with boyfriend 2012 and 2015
    Melania Geymonat boyfriend collage (2012 dude & 2015 dude)

    Melania Geymonat Ramirez appears quite plainly to be a normal, heterosexual crisis actor that plays a lesbian role for Pride month staged violence. The fact her name comes across as so carefully tied to her role, and that she signs her GoFundMe campaign as Geymonat Ramirez, “Geymonat” could be an added name for her character.

    The planning thus would to have been quite long in the tooth, which seems disproportionate for such a minor hoax. Then again, maybe getting involved in a European media-hoax is quite prestigious for a Uruguayan citizen, and that Geymonat Ramirez will use her new learned skills in PsyOps to come in South America, who knows.

    As to who actually shot the photo from the bus, this seems to have happened after the police arrived on the “scene”, as they arrived as soon as the bus stopped…

    [ As quoted from the Bishops Stortford Independent earlier in the thread ]

    ” The next thing I know is I’m being punched. I got dizzy at the sight of my blood and fell back. I don’t remember whether or not I lost consciousness. Suddenly the bus had stopped, the police were there and I was bleeding all over. ” article

    in reply to: Men-are-bad/Gay-is-good steering media events #858042

    Aaaaand….we have the expected GoFraudMe page

    Great findings.

    When one considers the actual cost of staging this type of “homophobic hatecrime”, it seems unlikely the Gofundme campaign actually represents any considerable amount compared to to the total expenditures involved*.

    melania geymonat gofundme
    Melania Geymonat Ramirez Gofundme page (here)

    Most likely the policy of using funding campaigns is not merely motivated by gain, but moreso to reach a wider audience and above all a more committed audience who by giving, or entertaining to give, might corral the story more vehemently and defend the hoax with insistence in their social circles. When we bind money to a belief – we believe more deeply*.

    The Nuffield Southampton Theatres follow-up lesbian attack is a good indicator June is indeed Gay Month or Gay Monat as speculated above in this forum… The “throwing” meme comes back around as does the young, evil wrongdoers.

    Lucy Jane Parkinson and Rebecca Banatvala
    Lucy Jane Parkinson and Rebecca Banatvala

    *this type of fake minority violence operation needs to be handled by a coordinated group over several months, with supervisors, scriptwriters, photographers, make-up artist, stylist, image/film directors and more).

    *money is a major factor to our personal opinions, and the Gofundme hoax implementation acts like an inverted form of “Dollar voting”. We clearly see the same mechanism used in fake Conspiracy culture as well, where donations are used in very similar ways. By pretending to be poor or in need, the paid Truther movement do not seek money as much as they are after our belief and less investigative minds which they buy with our submission of private assets.

    in reply to: Men-are-bad/Gay-is-good steering media events #858037

    Just found that Greymonat equally has a “Couchsurfing” profile (here), and she both sounds and looks less lesbian on those pages with no mention of girlfriend “Chris”. Difficult to know if Geymonat’s colleges are aware she faints by the sight of blood or not…

    Geymonat - coachsurfing nurse

    Geymonat with boyfriend Urugayan mate

    Geymonat with boyfriend Urugayan mate travelling

    ” Taking my Uruguayan mate as far as I can 🙂 “

    Melania Geymonat quotation from her Coachsurfing profile

    in reply to: Men-are-bad/Gay-is-good steering media events #858036

    ” The next thing I know is I’m being punched. I got dizzy at the sight of my blood and fell back. I don’t remember whether or not I lost consciousness. Suddenly the bus had stopped, the police were there and I was bleeding all over. ” article

    The main difference between acting and crisis-acting is that the narrative is presented as real in media hoaxes, and the aim is not to entertain but to deceive. The fact lying and acting are so close matches does make one wonder about the sincerity of actors as they all will master a form of deception many, if not most, are incapable of detecting.

    When we analyze media-fakery detecting lies is clearly an important aspect as it informs us about the nature of the characters presented to us, who invariably takes on a role of godly honest, innocent victims. Detecting untruthfulness on the behalf of a witness is clearly a bad sign in itself, and moreso for media-events that already suffer from poor credibility.

    How is it possible a Doctor gets dizzy by the sight of blood ?

    melania geymonat linkedin profile
    Melania Geymonat’s LinkedIn profile (here)

    melania geymonat education
    Melania Geymonat is a doctor of medecine (2018)

    ” Melania puts on her gloves, takes a clip and begins to explain to us the remarkable engineering of our body, and she does it very well because Melania is a being between medicine and literature, while she dissects a throat and shows me the vocal cords […] ” quotation link

    in reply to: Men-are-bad/Gay-is-good steering media events #858034

    Main characteristics of any Psychological Operation is that PsyOps are fiction created to fit a predetermined outcome. Goals of PsyOps may vary, in this case the agenda seems to fit a global policy of prioritizing minority communities over global population interest, and to normalize* deviant sexual behavior.

    Fear is used to enforce popular empathy which makes the public place themselves in the pretended victims position – here as gay, multicultural females suffering male violence in the form of sexual masochism (possibly nationalistic for some added Brexit disgust).

    In a PsyOp, the pretended drama which is fictional forces the authors to integrate as many literal and figurative cues as possible in order to make the public both accept the story without question, and to have the narrative resonate as much as possible for maximized newsworthiness and media/public attention.

    The literal cues here are many, and starts with the names that rejoins the Gay Pride LGBTQ+ efforts of the month of June, thereafter establishes a gay couple with typically heterosexual names (Chris & Melania). The male “Chris” theme is enhanced by heavy clothing and dominant behavior in interviews, while female innocence is outlined for Geymonat with her more fragile appearance and white shirt/lighter clothing.

    The fact this “incident” happened in the UK is figuratively connected to the typical London double decker bus. Without a local artefact it would have been hard to place American Chris and Spanish Melania in the UK.

    ” Fighting broke out and I don’t know how we got from fighting on the top of the bus down to the lower deck but in that time frame they took my phone, her bag and they ran off the bus. ” – American Chris

    Homophobic attack leaves 2 U.K. women injured
    CBC News – 8 Jun 2019 – 02:43 (mm:ss) – 17K views

    The discrepancy between the purported injuries and the absence of subsequent symptoms is also quite revealing of the nature of this event as a PsyOp and thus meant as warfare on our minds, and the aftermath is quite predictably all about the Gay Pride month and raising “awareness” about homophobic hate-crimes with recognizable and politicized jargon and rhetoric.

    ” A banged up jaw can also force people to rely upon alternative methods of communication. In lieu of talking, the patient may have to resort to emails, using a pen and notepad or having a friend speak on their behalf […] One surgical procedure frequently used to repair broken jaws is to wire the jaw shut. In other words, the damaged jaw is wired to the teeth of the opposing jaw. These wires usually remain in place for 6 to 8 weeks, and serve to stabilize the jaw as it begins to heal […] ” Healing a broken jaw

    Despite the fact American Chris reportedly broke her jaw, she apparently has no problems talking and moving her mandible, nor does Melanie’s newly broken nose look particularly swollen (nor misaligned) or her voice sound nasal.

    I’m left scratching my head, wondering why these interconnections exist when they definitely didn’t have to in order to achieve the desired effect of the PsyOp.

    Using popular culture references clearly would be in favor of establishing better chances for resonance in the public who does latently carry a heavy burden of images subconsciously from the massive doses of entertainment we all mostly indulge in and that purposefully pollute our subconscience.

    The likeness between Jennifer Connelly and Melania Geymonat is quite striking from the initial news-poster image of the alleged blind lesbian violence. The improbable money throwing from unemployed teenagers saving money taking the nightbuss home and not a cab or Uber does appear misplaced – if not for the tie to the iconic youth movie Requiem for a Dream.

    Hard to know if PsyOp authors start out with a cinema connections and choose the main crisis actors thereafter, or if it is the other way round. In both cases the tools are the same as a successful media-hoax relies on its popularity and that the more literal, figurative and metaphoric links that can be tied into such events, the greater the chances the public will be seduced as they subliminally identify cues that match their psyche and imagination.

    The cultural interconnections Terran Downvale highlights most definitely exist. Any PsyOp would focus on integrating as many such cues as possible to enhance the impact of an imaginary storyline whose “raison d’être” is not to be real, but to gain interest and popularity in order to mold popular opinion and behavior.

    *globally underlying narrative goals are also persistent in the mostly contrived Truth movement where operators subliminally (by mimetism) encourage swearing, drinking, smoking etc.

    in reply to: Men-are-bad/Gay-is-good steering media events #858021

    Oh my – out of the four bullies that atacked the gay couple, the Police now have arrested five… Great work by Detective Superintendent Andy Cox.

    London Police Arrest Fifth Suspect in Attack on Lesbian Couple

    in reply to: Men-are-bad/Gay-is-good steering media events #858020

    Not surprising that this “Gay” attack was perpetrated on Miss ‘Gey’monat…

    For a staged event, the injuries sure look pretty realistic, especially the swelling on Gaymonat. The least realistic part i agree is the blood and the apparent “haphazard” choice of a white shirt. It makes the contrast with blood quite exposed, thus revealing an unlikely pattern of the gush of blood from a broken nose.

    The fact Gaymonat does not have any blood on her hands is unlikely in the case of a broken nose as the natural reaction in her situation would be to protect her nose and stop the bleeding. And a broken nose bleeds quite severely – moreso than what seems to have been poured onto her white shirt.

    Geymonat buss attack

    Another strange element about the injuries is how Gaymonat have no marks whatsoever of her aftermath black eye – if she was hit on the eye she should have some redness at the least. Both victims were also injured on just one eye – the left eye.

    in reply to: More Carrion #858008

    More Carrion
    in the Alternative Media
    No alternative researcher can ever ignore the 9/11 hoax, the cultural references are too many and the Military Psychological Operation (PsyOp) divisions keep integrating subliminal elements in popular culture to make sure we never really forget – despite many think they do.

    The Annette A. Carrion case is of course nothing of the scale of 911, and despite the numerous MainStream Media (MSM) articles covering the motorcycle accident of Instagram star and Redraven Annette Carrion, it is a mediahoax more specific to alternative research in its aftermath – and possibly continuously used as a tongue in cheek moment used by its perpetrators on the few of us here reading these pages of the alternative realm.

    No doubt, most researchers on this site apparently find the Annette Carrion hoax insignificant and clearly do not bother with its details nor inevitable conclusions. Nevertheless, tiny clever clues do pop up now and then that do remind us the incident is far from forgotten by perpetrators who clearly initially thought the Carrion controversy would start and end with “Crazy Dave J” being outed and his video taken off the Youtubes and Faketubes for no-one to see.

    With the likes of QOR and Gaia popping up on Fakeologist as Carrion apologists, it is also the skin deep “ignorance” of our research in this thread that is striking. There have been several occasions where the haphazard mention of “Carry On” clearly could be interpreted as a hoodwink to “Carrion” as in this Annette A. Carrion motorcycle death hoax, thus poking us here subliminally.

    Just recently i’m probably to blame for referring to the Annette Carrion hoax as the apologetic stance on this hoax made me elaborate further in the Conspiracy Conspiracy forum pages (post link) as the Carrion case might (imo) be used as a litmus test for fake Truthers as they insist on ignoring the facts of the investigation done in this dedicated Carry On FAK forum.

    Needless to say – i got the distinct impression that the unknown-to-me Fakeologist member from Geneva (Louis) was very specific in his quite peculiar bumper in favor of who he considers the “best” : Benoît Clerc (Geris).

    (40 seconds final bumper from FAC579 by Louis)

    Fakeologist, I’m Louis from Geneva, Switzerland – and i have to approve that everythings that this guy, Benoît Clerc, talk about – it’s true, and it’s the best i hear until now. See you guys. Carry On, do the same. Kiss

    Now, i don’t know how cheeky this really is to you – but it sure comes across as some fine-tuned Dupers Delight to me – but thenagain, this is just my own opinion and ear-testimony.

    Oh – i’ve not heard much about Louis from Geneva, nor able to put together how he so quickly came across Geris’ real name and found the time to record and upload his bumper ? Maybe time to Carry On investigating…

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