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December 14, 2019 at 11:31 am in reply to: Hoaxing up “natural” events – earthquakes, tsunamis, fires, volcanoes #904975
Make no mistake, there is Nothing in this HRDPAR which doesn’t diverge from the standard drill script, whether the setting is a Tunisian Beach, a London Bridge, a Melbourne shopping mall. That the scriptwriters have chosen to use a slightly active volcanic island as the backdrop merely makes the event more newsworthy, giving greater world coverage, thus rewarding the extra investment in creating the extra-special effects.
The usual dripping out of identifying “fatalities” has started
Police have officially named the first victim of the White Island volcano eruption in New Zealand, as recovery efforts continue.
Krystal Eve Browitt was a 21-year-old Australian from Melbourne who was visiting the island with her family. pic.twitter.com/8KLm5U3S0c
— IanBroughall (@IanBroughall) December 14, 2019
Browitt was on the island with her sister Stephanie and her father Paul when the volcano erupted. Stephanie is in a coma in hospital with her mother, Marie, who stayed on board their cruise ship instead of taking the volcano trip, at her bedside. Paul Browitt is being treated for burns in hospital in Melbourne.
The oh-so-preidctable precession of X [only 2 in this case] funeral hearses with identical symbolic caskets has also occurred [check!] in front of the massed cameras.
The families of those killed in the New Zealand volcano disaster were “jubilant” when six bodies were retrieved from White Island on Friday.
The bodies were then flown to Whakatane Airport, where the families were given time to sit among their loved ones’ coffins – despite not knowing which was their relative’s, deputy Labour leader Kelvin Davis said.
The complex retrieval operation [check!] can be extended as required by the scriptwriters.
Friday’s mission was carried out the elite SAS unit E Squadron ** after police and the NZDF decided that their recovery plan mitigated risk to a point they were comfortable to step foot back on the ash-covered island. It came after days of intense work by scientists measuring gas levels and considering the volcano’s stability.
the drill continues….
all of the agencies and the scientists locked away in the room… they will be doing exactly the same as they did the other day, presenting a plan
**The squad members were shattered after Friday, according to [police commissioner Mike] Clements, so weren’t deployable on Saturday
suuuure they weren’t
“The operators on the ground yesterday were actually sinking up to calf level.
who writes this [unverifiable] stuff?
As Unreal has sapiently noted, burns is the leitmotif for this drill. [11/15 allegedly in burns units are allegedly “critical”] Note now this human interest story of heroism concerning a burns surgeon back from maternity leave with a 3-month old baby just for this event. True heroism.
Here’s the only verifiable thing – Deirdre does hold a baby.
Burns units are “AT CAPACITY”. We have to believe the experts.
The National Emergency Management Agency is co-ordinating the all-of-government response to the volcanic eruption, which took place on Monday afternoon.
More than 20 government and support agencies are responding to the incident.
This is one big drill.
What better person to front this “black box” charade than Dr Peter Watson the local chief health officer? An expert at saying nothing, it all soo sooo general. But everyone has been amazing [naturally]
“We expect a number of these people to be in our hospitals for weeks…several months” -suuuuure with 95per cent burns. That is resilience and excellence.
Here he is again
“amazing” “incredible” He can’t stop duping. The national plan has been activated. The carers and specialists will need counselling… the perfect disaster drill.December 14, 2019 at 5:51 am in reply to: Hoaxing up “natural” events – earthquakes, tsunamis, fires, volcanoes #904070
Very interesting, Rachel and Unreal. It is absolutely clear from the narratives and images surrounding this event that it was a staged media event. How the effect was created is an interesting conjecture.
As with many other hoaxes, CCTV camera are found not to be working. In this “eruption” the webcam on the island was suddenly turned off, suggesting that funny business had to be conducted post hoc, “because of the ongoing search and rescue effort” Suuuuure
From the White Island page, January 2019
GNS Science operate three cameras on Whakaari/White Island and one showing the island from Whakat?ne. Images are updated every 15 to 30 minutes and images from over the past 24 can be accessed at the GeoNet webpage for Whakaari/White Island. Check the images after your visit to White Island – you may be able to spot the little yellow dots which are the hard hats worn while on the island.
We cannot trust GeoNet any more than we can trust NASA. Witness such statements as
Sat Dec 14 2019 12:25 PM
Expert judgement this morning is that there is a 35-50% chance (medium likelihood) of an eruption occurring that could impact outside of the vent area within the next 24 hours. This has decreased somewhat compared to yesterday.
The table shows that the likelihood of an eruption is now about 100 times higher than in early December
i.e. keep away, nosey people. Leave it to the experts, we don’t want you sampling “ash”.
Note the graph on the page shows the trace from just one monitoring site on the island.
From the White Island website [August 31 2019
Due to tides, sea conditions and operational requirements our tour departure times vary on daily basis. Our morning tours generally depart between 8am and 10am and, where offered, our afternoon tours usually depart between 1pm and 2pm. We will confirm the exact departure time with you via email or phone call which is why it is very important that you provide contact details where we can get hold of you or that you ensure you contact us if you have not heard from us.
So, an easily controlled passenger list.
And the serialised suspense “recovery” operation continues with the absurd script provided
Divers searching for a body off Whakaari/White Island are in contaminated water with zero to two metres visibility.
They have to be washed off with fresh water each time they surface, Police national operations commander Deputy Commissioner John Tims said.
“Divers have reported seeing a number of dead fish and eels washed ashore and floating in the water,” Tims said.
And as Unreal notes, the 2016 boat fire was a warm-up event for the 2019 “eruption” – victim stories, shaky filming through windows, dodgy witness testimony. And what better way to link up the two events for yet more news coverage but to rope in a “survivor” from January 2016!
December 14 2019
Brendan Paterson never got to thank the tour guide who saved him and his son from a burning boat returning from Whakaari/White Island.
When he opened the newspaper on Tuesday, he immediately recognised Hayden Marshall-Inman’s face, *** among the dead from the eruption.
Back in 2016, Marshall-Inman had scooped Paterson and his youngest son, Elliot, out of choppy seas when their tour boat caught fire on the way back from the island.
*** like you do…
the blaze looks like it is caused by theatrical pyrotechnics – and who was filming this?
Oh look, in the bottom video, Dr Nick Odom recites his script..
“black smoke came whooshing through the cabin within seconds the engine stopped, everybody got out of the cabin…dropping anchor…lifejackets passed roundd….boat was actually on fire smoke got thicker and thicker..on upper deck had to jump off from the second deck [laughs!] 12ft to 15 ft off the sea…let go ..grateful it happened where it did the other boats got to us quickly if we had been out at sea further out..very serious.. I gather that life rafts inside the cabin so not accessible …should have been ojt the outside of the boat ….the crew were fantastic absolutely superb,the captain and the crew were <strong very >helpful… there was no panic everyone was very calm and fortunately everything turned out alright…”
suuuuure, a standard drill script. Where was Sue Odom, btw?
The PeeJay V burnt to the waterline and sank.
i bet it did!
As neatly suggested by this photo
In addition this event created a lot of work for the Inquiry experts making all their recommendations. [check!]
While this minor event is not a natural disaster, it shows how the company has prepared for 2019’s volcanic eruption.December 13, 2019 at 4:31 pm in reply to: Hoaxing up “natural” events – earthquakes, tsunamis, fires, volcanoes #901255
” Terrified passengers on a White Island tour boat leaped from the upper deck of the blazing vessel into the choppy ocean off Whakatane yesterday as flames quickly engulfed the ferry.
One woman, who jumped off the PeeJay V after a day visiting the volcano with her husband, described the frightening moment she feared the vessel would explode.
Sue Odom and husband Nick were among 60 passengers and crew forced to make the terrifying decision of staying on board long enough for rescue vessels to reach the stricken tour boat, or jumping into the sea about 1km from shore on a wet, stormy afternoon, after a fire broke out about 3.45pm. “
That’s a flaky story.
How interesting, then, that he’s a Cambridge University educated UK consultant cardiothoracic surveon who moved to New Zealand and retired circa 2018
1968 ODOM, Dr Nick retired at the end of May. He wasaconsultantcardiothoracicsurgeon in
Manchesterfor overtwenty years but moved to Hamilton, New Zealand in 2011. He will bestaying in New Zealand,afterleaving his job at Waikato Hospital.
source St John’s College magazine
He married Sue in 1998 when he would have been in his late 40s
Even more interesting….in 2017, we read
A penniless gardener sent a chilling extortion threat to a Cheshire lawyer after becoming envious of his successful lifestyle.
He was targeted by Josh Odom, 21, who was acquainted with the Dunne family after attending primary school with the lawyer’s oldest son.
Odom – who had been in custody for five weeks since his arrest, was given 20 months jail suspended for 18 months and was ordered tom complete 250 hours unpaid work and was ordered to electronically tagged for four months under the terms of a 9pm to 5am curfew.
He and his siblings were taken into care a long time ago when he was five.
Odom who was orphaned as a young child and then dumped by his adoptive parents had just lost a well paid job as a farm manager
“He and two younger siblings were adopted by a good family. His father had an extremely good job and continues to practice in that area in New Zealand. One can see that it seems that the reasons for this adoption was they wanted a baby and from a very early age this defendant and his middle brother were told these two were not wanted – the only reason they were adopted is because they wanted the younger child.
“Aged 15 his father gets a position in New Zealand and they live there. He ends up being put into care. He had to find himself in care living in Stretford. His brother went with them and then came back and it seems the adoptive family washed their hands.
A sad case if true.
December 13, 2019 at 1:34 pm in reply to: Hoaxing up “natural” events – earthquakes, tsunamis, fires, volcanoes #900474
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Something clearly is fishy about those White Island Tour boats. The 2016 incident with passengers in shock and horror sure could be some type of rehearsal and prepping for the big event to come later in 2019.
Excellent find, Unreal.
I love the burnt jetsam in the video – suuure a boat burnt out.
Allegedly the company wasn’t insuuuuured for such disasters [loss of earnings]…suuuuuuure
Here’s the owner with his burn out narrative. Started in the engine room, somehow. Suuuuuure “happened so quick” suuuuuure Everybody was wonderful.
Very very fake
December 13, 2019 at 12:16 pm in reply to: Hoaxing up “natural” events – earthquakes, tsunamis, fires, volcanoes #900238
At slow speed and full screen around 9:51 in the Kauffmann video the blue hooped clothing aboard the mystery boat becomes clear.
The aviation “crash” gatekeepers at pprune, stuffed full of ex-military, struggle to reach a conclusion regararding the damage to the Eurocopter Squirrel helicopter prop , said to “have been flying over the island ” *** at the time.
In the end, the impossible damage is ignored. They are also not curious about the registration or serial number of the distressed chopper.
Volcanic Air, a tour company based in Rotorua, later confirmed that the pilot and four passengers were unharmed *** and had returned to the mainland via boat on Monday afternoon.
source Vice and many other MSM outlets
No emerging stories or i-phone footage….
Oh, here’s one of the Volcanic air pilots in front of camera
Depauw’s helicopter (pictured) was badly damaged and has been left on the island.
Barrow said fellow Volcanic Air pilot Brian Depauw was on the island near the beach ***/strong> with tourists when the volcano erupted.
Barrow said Depauw instructed his four German passengers to get in the water with him. Two did and as a result, they didn’t suffer any injuries, and were later transported back to shore by a White Island Tours boat. But two chose to stay on the island and were severely burned ***.
*** slight narrative mix-up
Here’s Tim’s disaster drill narrative
“It was carnage when we got to the centre. It was steamy, it was quite hard to breathe. The gas masks were invaluable. Once we got into the centre of the crater, there were bodies and victims. There were injured in various states obviously in distress. The sole focus was to get those alive off the island.”
Barrow was directed to one of the survivors who was in a pretty bad way. The person – Barrow was unsure if they were a man or woman – was burnt and covered in ash.
With help from [Graeme] Hopcroft, they carried the person on their shoulders to their helicopter before heading into the crater to get more survivors.
“There were a number of victims injured in close proximity.”
Between the three men with the K?hu crew, Barrow, Hopcroft and two other Volcanic Air crew members that arrived shortly after – pilot Sam Jones and crewman Callum Mill – the seven men carried 12 survivors to three of their helicopters.
He said Jones and Mill did another “reccy” of the island to ensure there were no remaining survivors before heading back to Whakat?ne.
Barrow said one of his two badly injured passengers died on the way to hospital and it was his understanding another passenger in a K?hu helicopter also died en route.
Aerial photos from December 9 from George Novak, who seemed to have hitched a lift over the danger zone, with what looks like a normal cruise boat below
+++from the video
“Brian’s recollection ..there wasn’t a lot of noise. he saw the volcanic eruption, saw the explosion to gertical and cloud tracvel towards them….wonderful job…
@1:08 “he [one of our aircraft] had got airborne at 5 minutes past two” I got the message at 20 past 2 to say there’d been an eruption”
Tim struggles to get the timeline correct.
December 13, 2019 at 10:22 am in reply to: Hoaxing up “natural” events – earthquakes, tsunamis, fires, volcanoes #899906
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At 9:35 we can make out a blue and white hooped jersey on the mystery boat, the kind worn by staff of White Island cruises.
It’s certainly a strange vessel, totally unlike the usual craft taking tourists out. However I have spotted this flickr photo which shows a DIFFERENT grey painted boat, January 2018
Meanwhile the “body recovery” drill continues apace
For some reason, the video only shows the same stills
Eight military specialists wearing protective clothing and using breathing apparatuses were flown to the island on Friday morning to begin the retrieval operation, despite the threat of further volcanic activity.
Although the rescue team successfully recovered six bodies, which had been located the night before by drones, the search will continue on Saturday for two others.
Authorities said one of those bodies was known to be in the water off the island, but was unable to be retrieved by divers. The whereabouts of the second body has yet to be established.
“The operation was not without risk but thanks to sound planning and the skills of the specialist team involved we have recovered the six bodies,” New Zealand police commissioner Mike Bush said in a statement.
It’s all BS.December 13, 2019 at 6:44 am in reply to: Hoaxing up “natural” events – earthquakes, tsunamis, fires, volcanoes #898990
Do I detect another whole family relocation?
The two latest confirmed fatalities were Berend Hollander, 16, and his brother Matthew Hollander, 13, both students at Knox Grammar school in Sydney.** Their parents remain unaccounted for.
The repatriation of Australians in intensive care-capable aircraft “has been going exceptionally well” and had taken pressure off New Zealand units, he said.
Australian prime minister Scott Morrison earlier said: “In the days ahead, there will be worse news …
**Knox Grammar School in Sydney has confirmed brothers Berend Hollander, 16, and Matthew Hollander, 13, have died in hospital from injuries sustained in the New Zealand White Island volcano eruption
It’s a pretty standard drill narrative.
December 12, 2019 at 6:37 pm in reply to: Hoaxing up “natural” events – earthquakes, tsunamis, fires, volcanoes #896494
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<h2>Kaufmann video reference:</h2>
Incredible footage shows calm before fatal blast on Whakaari White Island
RNZ – 11 Dec 2019 – 09:02 mm:ss – 38K views
A longer Kauffmann video is here
with shots of the “departure”
the moment of eruption caught by Kauffmann 8:13 et seq – followed by 8:43 blackout. Heavy old steam and smoke.
December 12, 2019 at 6:17 pm in reply to: Hoaxing up “natural” events – earthquakes, tsunamis, fires, volcanoes #896414
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Here’s a perfect example of the post-drill interview, as a talking head coaxes along an ex-RAF pilot [safe pair of hands] to recite his script which contains essentially nothing. He’s also trying desperately not to smile the whole time.
James Tayler. A nice touch to wear his helicopter outfit in the TV studio in case we’re in any doubt…
He didn’t even go to the island [if indeed anyone was rescued that day]
In another video on the same channel, someone brings up the Pike River mine explosion in the context of bodies not being recovered…..well that’s another suspicious event which needs examination now, the biggest disaster in NZ since, yes you’ve guessed, the air “crash” in Antarctica.
I digress… back to our sceptic in Australia
— AndrewJackson (@Andr3wJackson) December 12, 2019December 12, 2019 at 11:01 am in reply to: Hoaxing up “natural” events – earthquakes, tsunamis, fires, volcanoes #895275
Good find, Unreal. I particularly like the immaculate boat at 6:58 “Glazed in ash”. [cutting immediately to the white mountain on which no ash is falling….]
It’s not event he same boat which was referenced at 3:22.
I do now see steam plume development towards the end of the video.
Lillani Hopkins with father Geoff, seemingly the only tourists on the boat at the start of the video, comes out of facebook purdah to upload a photo of them on the island, but waiting until late in the evening [10:59 PM local time] to do it.
with the give-away caption White Island 9/12/19
Dad Geoff uploads almost immediately afterwards [11:06 PM]
here comes the supporting narrative from mum who didn’t go on the trip “that day” –
Lyn Hopkins Geoff and Lillani were on the boat that had left 1 minute before it erupted. So thankful that God was watching over them. They then spent the next few hours trying to save the ones who were on the second boat still on the island when it erupted.
Shawn Bridge Are you actually there?
The MSM were able to use Lillani’s upload
source Sydney Morning Herald
She had purchased tickets to the island in the Bay of Plenty as a gift for her father’s birthday, marking 24 years since he last visited the natural wonder.
Here comes the Boston Marathon bit….
“I went into fight mode, probably for two hours fighting to keep these people alive, pour cold water on their burns, keep them conscious, dress head wounds.”
While some could speak, others “couldn’t do anything but scream in pain”.
“Some couldn’t speak any English at all and some were unconscious,” she said.
Mostly, she said, they were “petrified”.
Ms Hopkins said she and her father were cutting the clothes off people with the worst burns, many of whom were only wearing singlets, jeans and sneakers.
She recalled the severe blisters and third-degree burns she witnessed.
“They were loaded with pain medication for the survivors, but the patients were so burnt they had no veins in their arms,” she said.
one of “her” photos no doubt before the boat “turned back” to pick up all the burnt passengers…
People standing on the shoreline covered in ash, others madly swimming in the water.
“It looked like a bomb had gone off. There was a crippled helicopter that had been knocked off the pad. The propellers had been all bent and broken,” Ms Hopkins said on Tuesday.
“All I could think was, if it can do that to metal, what can it do to human skin?”
Who writes this stuff?
Geoff’s narrative is here at the NZ HeraldDecember 12, 2019 at 6:24 am in reply to: Hoaxing up “natural” events – earthquakes, tsunamis, fires, volcanoes #894276
A BBC clip shows Shaimaa Khalil in a plane observing the convenient “exclusion zone” [i.e. don’t get too close to see what’s going on, not because of safety considerations]
Note the spliced cuts and zooms. And again, little development of what must be steam.
How this effect was created is unknown.
Now for more suspense…. in case it “erupts” again [no chance….]
It’s now or never “to bring back the 8 bodies” before they get entombed in ash [or steam…] according to “hero pilot” and insider Mark Law **
“The deceased are definitely [unclear] deceased, I went to er nearly all of them and physically er you know felt them and shook them and er and er just looked at them for the response you know erm of life. They could have been in the latter stages of [unclear] completely unconscious, close to death, it was hard to know why I didn’t do any primary survey because it was just a matter of getting round to the to them mass of people, really. And. Er there was a lot of breathing issues for a lot of the folks that were alive but definitely the people that I touched they were either nearly deceased or definitely deceased…. and then Tom went down later and actually moved his [Hayden’s] body erm out of the steam bed and lay him to rest in a sort of more in a sort of nicer position…I’m sad about the other folks that didn’t make it. and really .broken about the people that were having such an awesome time now have horrendous injuries to deal with.
Note the amazing development of steam and smoke at 1:57 – completely at odds with other images.
see also the second video
he just wanted to get there and talk to them and comfort them… we know where they all are…Hayden’s a really really good friend of ours…a real top bloke, a real ambassador for New Zealand. he’s there and we want to get him home..
**Meanwhile, a vulcanologist says it is common for ash and water to mix after an eruption creating a cement-like mixture, potentially hampering recovery.
The same expert says it was plausible the recovery could be delayed by a month or more if perceived eruption risk remained high.
Bodies could be buried on island
Speaking before the police announcement, Law said he feared the eight bodies could be buried under ash or begin to disintegrate in the island’s acidic environment.
“The acidity of the island … always has been brutal.”
The third video is the Kauffmann footage showing steam plume development from the crater
Perhaps it was cement dust sprayed around the bay?December 12, 2019 at 5:20 am in reply to: Hoaxing up “natural” events – earthquakes, tsunamis, fires, volcanoes #894142
Here’s a Kauffmann video released Thursday December 12 – hmmm
And what video maker will show the time on his wristwatch – as it to prove what time it is. Like you do, lol! Seems like he knows something is about to happen! At 0:14 the time is 1:49 PM. Just fancy that!
I get the feeling if one stabilised the deliberately shaky “amateur” video [a hoax staple] one might see no smoke development.
And WTF is that at 0:47? And at 2:06
It all looks very very fake.
“Oh look, the [deliberately distressed] helicopter. Nice dubbing. Yes, no smoke plume development.
Make no mistake, this is a very important psy-op.
BTW Kauffmann’s video was uploaded to youtube [for the MSM] then deleted almost immediately -yet another psy-op technique.
As Unreal notes, all the attention to TIMES by Schade [see also Kauffmann’s video] points to a very cheap script, like an airport bookseller’s detective novel where everything has to “add up” for the crime to be solved.December 11, 2019 at 6:58 pm in reply to: Hoaxing up “natural” events – earthquakes, tsunamis, fires, volcanoes #892878
Someone who sees through the drill format
note the duping witness at 2:48
and an “expert” given an easy ride on TV – he hints that perhaps water getting into the magma could create a plume of steam. Hmmmm
Lots of talk of an [obviously huge] explosion which nobody seems to have heard
Professor Richard Arculus –
December 11, 2019 at 6:23 pm in reply to: Hoaxing up “natural” events – earthquakes, tsunamis, fires, volcanoes #892832
Allessandro Kauffmann and Aline Moura in another video
We coulnd’t see the island” – perhaps this is the cancelled video ^^ you get the impression that the smoke plume was generated at the edge of the island, not the Crater! [from 2:16 in the video]
These Brazilian “bucket list tickers-off” only gave one interview – The Project.
Here’s the “proof” they went…
and here’s another occasion tweeter, roped into upload at…yes you’ve guessed, 2:21PM as they flee… could be Schade’s mom.
Dina Fanetti from San Francisco –
White Island volcano eruption. This is video we were taking as our boat tried to get us a safe distance before going back for survivors. It didn’t dawn on us right away what had just happened or that there were still people were still on the island. #whiteislanderuption pic.twitter.com/YCajksiCLU
— Dina (@dmf) December 9, 2019December 11, 2019 at 5:54 pm in reply to: Hoaxing up “natural” events – earthquakes, tsunamis, fires, volcanoes #892776
^^ the second Moura video is v. strange – is it CGI? It’s from the same boat, alleged, that Schade was filming from. And why is the previous instagram video now blank despite being well liked?
Is Moura another plant, like Schade?
A commenter says she saw Moura’s video on the BBC….which helpfully links to Moura and Alessandro’s NARRATIVE twitter posts [another standard hoax narrative delivery method] managed by The Project NZ
"The captain just turned the boat around. At that moment we didn’t understand what was happening, we didn’t understand why we were going back to the island because our first reaction was… run away." – Brazilian tourist Aline Moura was filming #Whakaari when the volcano erupted. pic.twitter.com/LBcbaavyi6
— The Project NZ (@TheProject_NZ) December 10, 2019
"Some people were feeling too cold… I think it’s one reaction when someone gets burned, and everyone just takes all of their jackets, all of their tops… when we didn't’ have more clothes we just tried to hug those ones that we could hug, that we could touch" #Whakaari pic.twitter.com/C9Q99BoKNV
— The Project NZ (@TheProject_NZ) December 10, 2019
"We can say the people who were injured… they were so brave, they were so strong… They were incredible. We just want to give our love, our prayers… We hope everyone is going to be okay." #Whakaari #WhiteIsland #TheProjectNZ pic.twitter.com/GmpIPglCK5
— The Project NZ (@TheProject_NZ) December 10, 2019
The Project NZ @TheProject_NZ – [3 consecutive tweets] ^^
“The captain just turned the boat around. At that moment we didn’t understand what was happening, we didn’t understand why we were going back to the island because our first reaction was… run away.” – Brazilian tourist Aline Moura was filming #Whakaari when the volcano erupted.
“Some people were feeling too cold… I think it’s one reaction when someone gets burned, and everyone just takes all of their jackets, all of their tops… when we didn’t’ have more clothes we just tried to hug those ones that we could hug, that we could touch” #Whakaari
“We can say the people who were injured… they were so brave, they were so strong… They were incredible. We just want to give our love, our prayers… We hope everyone is going to be okay.” #Whakaari #WhiteIsland #TheProjectNZ
That’s their holiday paid for…
The earliest reports of a plume – 2.21 pm NZ time
Twitpic posted 1:26 AM GMT = 2:26 PM NZT
— SunLive News (@sunlive_nz) December 9, 2019
December 11, 2019 at 3:58 pm in reply to: Hoaxing up “natural” events – earthquakes, tsunamis, fires, volcanoes #892442
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Not everybody buys the narrative…
New Zealand White Island volcano story very hoaxy, how was this helicopter damaged? there are no large rocks around to break the rotor blades? Happened @ 12.11pm AEDT, ash plume went 3600 ft high pic.twitter.com/wDCcFzd87H
— AndrewJackson (@Andr3wJackson) December 10, 2019
and another video of the plume not shot by Schade, but an apparent Brazilian tourist..
December 11, 2019 at 12:34 pm in reply to: Hoaxing up “natural” events – earthquakes, tsunamis, fires, volcanoes #892091
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With White Island, it clearly is all about burns.
It certainly is, Unreal!
New Zealand health authorities have ordered 1.2 million square cm (1291 square feet) of skin from the United States to treat patients suffering severe burns from Monday’s volcanic eruption.
Dr Peter Watson from Middlemore Hospital, where the country’s National Burns Unit is located, said that in the 24 hours after the eruption the unit dealt with the workload it would normally deal with in one year.
Some patients have burns to up to 95 per cent of their bodies. Surgeons have been working around the clock on 29 patients in several burns units across the country since White Island erupted on Monday.
Here comes the DVI [Disaster Victim Identification” drill
The Chief Coroner, who doesn’t see any bodies, has declared “A MASS FATALITY INCIDENT” – a multi-disciplinary response. Only 6 fatalities so far….
another “witness” Tim Barrow, helicopter pilot appears who went to the “centre of the crater” really found a survivor “caked in ash”
“Like a scene from armageddon”
Another Doctor wheeled out – Dr John Kenealy clinical director of surgery at Middlemore Hospital -think the Pulse nightclub hoax when the medical professionals had to perform in front of camera….
Dr Vanessa Thornton, clinical head at Middlemore was also wheeled out…
“one or two very sick patients, upto 90 percent burns, we’re hoping they will survive”
Severe burns are among the most traumatic injuries a person can endure but the Whakaari/White Island patients will be receiving world-class care, a nurse who worked in a burns unit says.
“You have practice simulations where they do a mock disaster, so you are prepared. But when it does happen you still can’t quite believe it,” said the woman, who asked not to be named as she still works in the health sector.
“Normally it would be a train or plane crash or something like that. It’s just horrific what’s happened… as well as their burn injuries they obviously will have inhalation burns from the different gases. So that is a battle in itself.”
The country’s four regional hospital burns units in Middlemore Hospital, Christchurch, Waikato and Hutt Valley are at capacity following Monday’s eruption, with many patients in critical condition.
Some patients may be transferred to Australian hospitals when well enough, in order to be closer to family. Middlemore Hospital’s burns unit received the equivalent of a year’s worth of work in one day since the eruption
Disaster drill, pure and simple. And there will always be professionals eager to read out their scripts, because it WAS a drill for them.
December 11, 2019 at 12:04 pm in reply to: Hoaxing up “natural” events – earthquakes, tsunamis, fires, volcanoes #892028
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Let’s see if any of the “missing” -8 in number, allegedly, turn up by a strange plot twist. 30 are allegedly and said to be “in hospital”. 30+8+6 = 44, so we’re 3 short of 47.
Officials have confirmed that two Britons are being treated in hospital, but their names and conditions are unclear.
Sky News 11 December 2019
A UK couple is named elsewhere as potential “lined up” vicsims. [ideal relocation/retirement couple] Facebook photos handily available.
Karl Rakos, 57, and wife Deborah, 50, from Darlington, have been listed as missing on an unofficial Red Cross website *** following the disaster, which struck on Monday.
Mark Rakos, 35, says he has been unable to contact his father or stepmother – who were on a cruise around New Zealand – since Sunday, and is worried for their safety.
The UK High Commissioner in New Zealand has confirmed there are two British women among the wounded in hospital, but has not identified them.
‘I’ve been asking my grandmother (if she has heard from the couple) because he’s not been in touch and I’m starting to scare myself.
***However this is a rabbit hole [suspense motif…] because hey, they suddenly get in contact.
Karl’s mother, 77-year-old Jean Rakos, said family members had been concerned that they had not heard from the couple since news of the disaster broke. But on Tuesday evening she confirmed the couple had made contact and were on a cruise ship heading for Australia.
Speaking from her home in Ferryhill, County Durham, she said: “He’s on the ship. He’s on his way to Australia. He will be there tomorrow.”
Gavin and Lisa Dallow on their wedding day two years ago. i.e. a potential complete family releocation but…. Lisa has “been found in hospital”.** Interesting – Dad and Stepdaughter “missing”, biological mother survived. But, the narrative could play out with hospital deaths. Let’s see.
However we did note earlier the complete missing family of 4
Anthony and Kristine Langford and their two teenage children Jesse and Winona – are among those feared missing
Who will “confirm”? Sydney’s Marist College North Shore confirmed the family were missing as if they have some deeper insight.
And bringing the total up to eight **, we have…
Another tour guide, Tipene Maangi, is thought to have been on the volcano when it erupted, but the 24-year-old’s relatives have not given up hope.
His partner, Kuini Morehu-Waenga, suffered through a sleepless night and is “absolutely devastated,” according to New Zealand’s Newshub.
**So that’s only 7 missing.December 11, 2019 at 10:36 am in reply to: Hoaxing up “natural” events – earthquakes, tsunamis, fires, volcanoes #891878
The usual themes – heroes, deaths announced on facebook [as you do…]
and the helicopter pilot who couldn’t bring his mate back who was beyond help”
“like running through talcum powder”
Listen to the interviewer guiding the “witness” Note the total absence of detail in this recited script –
“the volcano was pretty active” come across a guy there I recognised….you knew it was a mate of yours, You knew it was hayden somehow? yeah… he was in a pretty bad way… “so I just pulled him out from where he was and made him as comfortable as I could just so er he’s there when we go back to get him… “obviously he was beyond help at that point ?” “yeah beyond help?” yeah yeah yeah beyond help yep” “Do you expect to go back to get him, do you want to go back to get him? “yeah, we would have loved to have gone back to get him. but we were .instructed not to go back out….pretty hard to take…want a bit of closure…start a job..finish it…”
And who should upload a video of the eruption, but Hayden’s sister-in-law…at 2:21 PM local time….
has the volcano really only been “erupting” for 10 minuntes?December 10, 2019 at 7:45 pm in reply to: Hoaxing up “natural” events – earthquakes, tsunamis, fires, volcanoes #889870
“A mobile triage unit is on its way to the island”
@3:20 the “expert” doesn’t know how ash has got to the camera which is located near the coast, lol! That’s convenient – no image for the next click of the camera 9 minutes after the alleged eruption. Yet another hoax clue
uploaded May 2019, Filmed February 2019
The crater looks a long long way down to the lake from the rim. I’m not buying this at all.