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  • in reply to: BBC Match of the Day – what's all this then? #10130
    xileffilex
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    Since we started off with several big crushes, I think it’s time to have a look at this one..
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/ww2peopleswar/stories/09/a795909.shtml

    Bethnal Green Tube Disaster 1943.

    Someone tripped on the stairs causing many others to fall. 300 people were crushed into the stairwell within a few seconds, 173 of them died and over 90 were injured. The worst civilian disaster of the 2nd World War.

    Bethnal Green Council had written to the government asking for permission to alter the station entrance and make it safer if a lot of people wanted to use it. The Government department refused and the Borough Engineer wrote a stronger worded letter explaining that the entrance and stairway needed several measures to make them safer. Again the government refused permission. The Council’s borough engineer wrote a third time to plead for permission to alter the entrance, but was once more refused.

    The day after the disaster all these measures sought by the Council were put in place
    ++++
    Some sources put the figure at 178, but 173 is the figure given on a plaque at the station and is also the figure given in the government inquiry, so that is the figure used here.

    PC Thomas Penn, who was escorting his pregnant wife to the shelter, arrived on the scene as the disaster was unfolding. To assess the scale of the event he crawled over the massed bodies to the bottom of the 19 steps and found 200 people in a space the size of a small room. PC Penn climbed out again and sent a message for help, before returning down the steps to help extricate people from the tangle of limbs and torsos.

    …the details of an inquiry by Mr Laurence Dunne were kept ‘under Lock and Key’ due to security considerations

    Now, we’re almost back full circle…

    Name: Thomas Penn
    Born: October 11, 1914 Liverpool, England
    Died: in May, 1983 Liverpool, England

    Born 49 Mark Street, Liverpool.
    Married St James-the-Less, Bethnal Green, London.
    Occ Police Constable.
    Buried Anfield Crematorium, Liverpool.

    http://www.xtal.info/merryweather/data/mer986.html

    in reply to: Deaths on 911? #10122
    xileffilex
    Participant

    Tim & Graham were “together” for two months.
    There was no flight 175 or any other whch crashed into the twin towers.

    Is this Tim?
    https://www.facebook.com/timothyfristoe/photos

    http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:jPChyhXSO9oJ:amarillo.com/stories/2008/12/17/obi_obit5.shtml

    Gene Arthur Fristoe
    Posted: Wednesday, December 17, 2008

    Gene Arthur Fristoe, 70, of Amarillo died Friday, Dec. 12, 2008, in Dallas.

    Survivors include his mother, Joyce of Amarillo; his wife, Karen; six children, Gina Rogers, Eddie Fristoe and wife Patti, Geneta and husband Darryl and Kelly Fristoe, all of Amarillo, Becky and R.D. Foster of Dallas and Tim Fristoe of Sonoma

    http://www.usa-people-search.com/names/p/Timothy-Fristoe-San%20Francisco-CA


    Spiritus – Cruise central – 190 Commercial Street, Provincetown,Mass.

    June 20 2002
    http://www.provincetown-ma.gov/ArchiveCenter/ViewFile/Item/1996

    Tim Fristoe – New Massage Therapist License
    After a review of the necessary paperwork by the Health Inspector, the following motion was made.
    Motion: Mark Baker moved that the Board approve Mr. Fristoe’s application for a massage therapist license.
    Seconded by Kay Halle. The vote was 3-0-0

    http://www.advancedbackgroundchecks.com/d/timothy-fristoe/82677285

    in reply to: Deaths on 911? #10120
    xileffilex
    Participant

    Tim Fristoe, read his name Sunday at the ceremony commemorating the 10th anniversary of the attacks.

    http://www.advocate.com/news/daily-news/2011/09/12/911-memorial-opens-new-york-city

    in reply to: Deaths on 911? #10118
    xileffilex
    Participant

    From The Advocate — the gay heroes of the terrorist tragedy.
    http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=IGUEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA48&lpg=PA48

    October 23 2001

    Every time Graham Berkeley parted from his boyfriend [37 year old] Tim Fristoe he was sure to say “I love you”….Fristoe, who lives n Provinvcetown, had just met Berkeley over the July 4 holiday at Spiritus, a popular local pizza joint. “It was cruise central”….according to Brian Reiser, a 27 year old telecommunications manager [who] says Berkeley planned to move t New York this fall….when he removed his shirt on the dance floor, as he often did, he revealed a toned body with a Maori trbal tattoo that spread from his left chest to his back….Fristoe says admirers sometimes took the liberty of touching his boyfriend’s tattoos and skin, something Berkeley professed to dislike….

    No mention of him continuing with playing the violin or viola.

    A compuware back-up page is here, from 1997:
    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.soft-sys.app-builder.uniface/RjLKOEAr2T0

    pcha…@ppc-191.putnaminv.com
    18/03/1997

    Hello,

    Does anyone have any experience using the Automatic Test Facility:ATF
    from Southbridge with Uniface. My client, Putnam Investments, is
    trying to get feedback from anyone who has. Any success stories, or
    warnings would be appreciated.

    Thanks in advance,
    Paul Chakoian

    Graham Berkeley
    18/03/1997

    In answer to your questions on ATF

    ATF is a nonintrusive testing facility from Softbridge which demands a
    high level of investment. It does not have any GUI level context
    sensitive integration with UNIFACE which means that a lot of hand
    scripting will be necessary. The only tool that can successfully
    handle the UNIFACE widgets and successfully playback to them is the
    QARun tool also from Compuware. QARun not only identifies UNIFACE
    widgets through a unique API developed by the Uniface Lab but also
    automatically synchronizes with the application under test. More
    information is available on the Compuware Website at
    http://www.compuware.com/qacenter.

    Graham Berkeley
    Product Manager
    Client/Server AT Products
    graham_…@compuware.com

    Try this:

    —–Original Message—–
    From: Reynolds, Gray
    Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 5:49 PM
    To: All Employees
    Subject: *** Letter from Peter Karmanos, Jr.

    ***
    Importance: High

    September 11, 2001

    Dear Compuware Employees:

    I am extremely sorry to report that

    two members of our Compuware
    team died as a result of the senseless tragedy that struck our
    nation earlier today.
    Myra Aronson and Graham Berkeley, both from our Cambridge, Massachusetts development center, were traveling aboard two of the planes involved in the events that occurred in
    New York City this morning.

    To Myra and Graham’s friends, families and coworkers, we extend
    our deepest sympathies.

    Myra joined Compuware in May 2000, serving as press and analyst
    relations manager for enterprise products. Graham came to
    Compuware in July 1995 and was product management director for
    strategic solutions.

    Your condolences for the families of Myra and Graham can be sent
    through Penny Deitch in the Human Resources Department at
    Farmington Hills.

    Many communities are currently coordinating blood drives for the
    victims of this tragedy. Should you wish to make a donation,
    please call 1-800-GIVE-LIFE.

    Sincerely,

    Peter Karmanos, Jr.
    Chairman and Chief Executive Officer
    Compuware Corporation

    Note the time and date….
    http://www.actorsingers.org/archive/message.txt

    http://forums.audiworld.com/showthread.php?t=106169

    http://andrejkoymasky.com/liv/fam/biob3/berkel01.html

    Graham’s parents, Charles and Pauline Berkeley, still live in England and watched the crash on television, although it took eight hours to confirm that their son had been on the plane.

    “We had seen the fireball ourselves and knew to expect the worst,” Charles Berkeley told the [London] Mirror. “We watched as our child died. He was a brilliant boy and a brilliant man.”

    June 15 2001
    http://sdt.bz/content/article.aspx?ArticleID=25814&page=1
    Compuware Corp. announced at JavaOne in San Francisco last week a new Java development environment that it claims generates complete working applications from a UML model.

    OptimalJ 1.0, promised to be generally available this October, includes architecture and design models and patterns to create code for n-tier systems at the JSP layer, the EJB layer and the database layer, according to Graham Berkeley, Compuware’s e-business product management director. “We don’t want to call it an IDE; that’s got a nasty 3GL ring to it,” Berkeley said. “It’s a high-productivity development environment which hasn’t existed before” for the creation of applications that “will be around longer than six months or a year,” he added……

    From PR Newswire April 21 1997

    “The addition of enhanced support for functional and load testing of PowerBuilder applications demonstrates Compuware’s continued commitment to enriching our clients’ testing environments,” said Graham Berkeley, Product Manager for Compuware’s Client/Server Automated Testing Products.

    “This support complements our other announcements of support in QACenter for UNIFACE and Oracle Developer/2000 applications.”

    http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Compuware+QARun+Enhances+Support+for+PowerBuilder+Applications-a019330909

    email addresses

    gbcracker@aol.com
    graham_berkeley@compuware.com

    in reply to: Deaths on 911? #10110
    xileffilex
    Participant

    from the TampaBay link above…

    …Graham’s parents Charles and Pauline, his brothers, Chris and Roger and their wives, Debbie and Louise….

    Roger Berkeley = Pamela L(ouise) McMahon in Shropshire in 1999.
    Christopher L Berkeley = Debra EH Purcell in Shropshire in 1998.

    Interesting that a Roger Berkeley was born in Worksop in late 1970, same place as the putative birth place of his 9/11 victim from flight 175, yet there’s no trace of a birth of a Graham or a Christopher there or anywhere else in online records. There must be some explanation. Birth outside England and Wales is a possiblity, along with the parent’ own births & marriage.
    Who, though, was the anonymous head of “Shrewsbury College” [sic]? Was it Martin Thorpe?

    March 1 2012 [The Bentley Elocution Prize]
    Martin Thorpe, formerly the Headmaster of the Priory School and the Shrewsbury Sixth Form College, brought the linguistic and literary sensitivities of the experienced schoolmaster, Open University lecturer and professional Classicist to bear on his adjudication….

    However, the Sixth Form College was founded in 1981,20 years before the “flight of UA 175”, so perhaps it was penned by an anonymous successor of the talented Mr Thorpe. CUrrent principal Mr Martin Ward is in the clear, he only took over in September 2008.
    http://www.shropshirestar.com/news/2013/01/04/shrewsbury-college-head-backs-lifetime-teaching-ban-decision/

    Reichstag Fireman was, in his/her Cluesforum post, surprised that Pauline called her husband Charles “Les”. Since his second initial at 192.com is “L” it is entirely possible he’s Charles Leslie.

    Another “gotcha” article about the B’s:
    http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/local-news/shrewsbury-mum-of-911-victim-cried-224141
    May 8 2011

    Pauline Berkeley, 73, of Shrewsbury, switched on the news to discover the terror leader had been shot dead by crack US Navy Seals in Pakistan on Monday.

    Her son Graham, 37, had been on United Airlines Flight 175 when it crashed into the second World Trade Center Tower on September 11 in 2001.

    The retired nurse, married to Charles, 78, told the Sunday Mercury: “The first I knew about bin Laden’s death was when I had messages from people on my answer phone.

    ‘‘I quickly put the news on and realised that it was true. I was so pleased that I burst into tears. I think it was because of the shock of him being caught.

    “I never thought it would happen in our lifetime. But Charles and I are glad he is no longer breathing.”

    Pauline – probably b. Newark 1937
    http://www2.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/information.pl?r=174025571&d=bmd_1399917892

    in reply to: BBC Match of the Day – what's all this then? #10109
    xileffilex
    Participant

    The yellow jersey stuck a chord: sorry it’s even further off-topic here than the Clapham junction event…

    Evening Standard June 17 2014
    Aside from the fact that the photo is a staged event with actors, note the yellow jersey symbolism which the paper’s editor draws our attention to.
    [we know definitely it’s staged because of words like “purporting” and ” if authentic” – probably as authentic as Osama bin Laden’s VHS tapes. Never mind.]
    http://www.standard.co.uk/comment/comment/sarah-sands-firing-squad-shows-how-we-lost-the-iraq-plot-9542984.html

    in reply to: Deaths on 911? #10098
    xileffilex
    Participant

    PS I noticed this excellent piece of research at Cluesforum:
    http://www.cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?t=1325&p=2384668

    I hadn’t meant to study Berkeley but it seems it’s an interesting direction to take after psyopticon fingered him above.

    http://www.shropshirestar.com/news/2011/05/03/shropshire-911-victims-parents-were-glad-they-killed-bin-laden/

    Another victim – Bin Laden angle….

    in reply to: Deaths on 911? #10090
    xileffilex
    Participant

    ..Shrewsbury Sixth Form College… what, after Priory Boys Grammar which one would expect to have a sixth form? All very curious.

    On re-reading the original “Shrewsbury College” [yes, very strange to find a nameless headmaster] link from psyopticon, the tributes page does seem, how shall I say, a bit too perfect, with friends from all name-checked compartments of his life all turning up on cue and adding their 2d worth. Time to dig more deeply. As I said previously, “superficially”. Old Graham does seem like renaissence man.

    Berkeley would have been born (at home in Worksop, allegely) Strangely, for the first time, I cannot find the birth. Help! Or even a marriage of the alleged father, Charles. A Roger Berkeley was born in Worksop in 1970, not 1963/4, with no supporting marriage of parents or siblings in England/Wales. Hmmmmm

    And what about the closure o the Wuppertal Orchestra [sic] – the Sinfonieorchester Wuppertal seems to have been in continuous business since 1862 not long after Friedrich Engels left Barmen for Manchester. Hmmmm again.


    The Jugendstil Stadthalle Wuppertal where almost certainly the non-existent Graham Berkeley never set foot with either viola or violin.
    http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinfonieorchester_Wuppertal#Geschichte_des_Sinfonieorchesters
    he orchestra can look back on an almost 150-year history

    Not a millon miles away, there were two orchestras, in Solingen and Remscheid, which fused in 1995 to form the Die Bergischen Symphoniker. But none of these names can be confused with Wuppertal.

    What a hoax.

    in reply to: Deaths on 911? #10076
    xileffilex
    Participant

    You guys at LRF

    Hmmmmmm

    I go along with this from “our guy”, (a co-researcher trying to get to the bottom of the hoax) at Cluesforum, hoi polloi:

    [thread: Simformation]
    http://www.cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=164

    That is precisely why I caution at this point against coming to any conclusions about what is going on here……To me, the pattern of complete fabrication (there likely was no plane whatsoever flying into anything but a landing strip on 9/11, the crowd scenes seem to be pieced together from studio shots and computer generated imagery) suggests that all the victims are the same.

    However, I could be wrong and that is why this thread exists. So far I don’t see enough reason to doubt the argument that Simon has made for several months now: they couldn’t afford to kill anyone with a real family who would investigate this so I suspect this is kind of related to the voter and victim fraud we’ve seen from criminal gangs in the past.

    But we’re still nowhere. No faked birth or marriage record exposed.

    I haven’t looked into Mr Berkeley.[related to Lennox or Humphrey, with all that musical expertise??]
    He was on flight 175, the only UK ciziten not in the towers, I think. There was no UK probate for him.

    One recent back up tribute:

    April 30, 2013
    Graham, I think of you often. We met sharing a stand at the BBC Radio Orchestra and became friends. We moved to the US within a month of each other and we lost touch. I found out what had happened six months afterward from mutual friends. It still makes me incredibly sad.
    ~
    Andrew Davies,
    San Francisco, California
    http://www.legacy.com/guestbooks/graham-berkeley-condolences/91670?#sthash.G092slIt.dpuf


    ANDREW DAVIES (violin), born in Carmarthen in South-West Wales, studied the violin in Cardiff with Garfield Phillips and then at London University with Vera Kantrovitch and Malcolm Layfield. As well as being the violinist for the popular Lindsay Kemp mime company based in Rome, he was a member of the BBC Concert Orchestra and worked regularly with the Philharmonia Orchestra of London, London Sinfonietta, and the Italian opera houses in Pesaro, Parma and Modena. Baroque violin studies with Catherine Macintosh led to membership of Roy Goodman’s Brandenburg Consort and David Roblou’s Handel Opera Society productions in London and Edinburgh. Andrew’s seven-year membership of The Hanover Band brought him on several long tours of the United States. He eventually moved to San Francisco and lives on Potrero Hill with his partner, their Mozart-singing parrot and their spaniel. As well as freelancing in California, he continues occasional work at the BBC and in New York.

    Why not ask AD about him? Perhaps he has photos of GB? Or is AD part of a the ever widening cover-up? I go back to Hoi:
    I have no certain idea what is going on.

    More here to disintangle:

    September 12, 2002
    9/11/02 Thinking today of all those who suffered in this act of evil but particuarly Graham and his family especially parents Charles and Pauline. Long live freedom -as a humanist I hope that those who wish to impose their own certainties upon others will never prevail.

    I never knew Graham but we were the same age, both grew up in wonderful Shropshire England and I work for a NY based company.
    ~
    Jerel Whittingham,
    Cambridge England

    September 08, 2006
    Thinking of Graham at this time.I was a member of the Shropshire Youth Orchestra which was led by Graham for a while. He also played the Bruch concerto with us. I attended the Royal College of Music with him and have fond memories of our orchestral tour to Russia. We organised a reunion of the orchestra from Graham’s time in the early 80’s, in March 2002. Graham’s parents came along and we all brought old photos of those very happy carefree days. Everytime I see that plane going into the second tower,** I am brought to tears thinking of what was going through Graham’s mind.
    No one can ever take away the memories we have of him and I feel glad to have known him.
    ~
    Val Berry (Perkins),
    Shrewsbury

    …you studying at The Royal College of Music In London…. –

    ~ Robert Foti,
    New York, New York

    met Graham in 1993 when I returned to work for Sterling Software in Woodland Hills, CA. – Lynn Newman, Gig Harbor, Washington

    September 11, 2008
    Graham, I remember you as a young, very talented violinist in Shrewsbury. I envied your talent! Sorry! :-)) Memories have flooded back of the Shropshire youth orchestra together and the Shrewsbury School string orchestra. Happy times! I am truly very sad that your young life has been taken away from you and your family. I can only pray that you are in a better and safer place. James.
    ~
    James Drummond,
    Cardiff

    September 11, 2010
    It doesn’t get any easier, does it? Nine years on, and the memories of those years at Priory Boys’ Grammar are etched in my mind. O, how we laughed! O, how we cried. You excelled in maths and the sciences (and German!), but I kept the edge in English and French (and Latin, because you didn’t take it!) And all those Saturday mornings with the Shropshire Schools’ Symphony Orchestra – I was a second-rate oboist while you were a stellar violinist. You specialised in music, I in drama. You headed for music college, I for drama school. You joined the BBC, I joined the RSC. Our careers came to unforeseen junctions, and our paths never crossed. Although your life was snuffed out, your spirit lives on. You touched my life in ways I never realised at the time. I’m only sorry I never kept in touch.
    Requiem æternam.
    ~ Adrian Hilton,
    London

    Wir haben in den 80er Jahren bei Sterling Software zusammen gearbeitet. – Michaela, Düsseldorf

    September 11, 2009
    Still thinking of you Graham
    Kish
    Ex colleague Compuware Netherlands
    ~
    Kish Prashad

    Es folgte eine sehr intensive Zeit und ich erlebte viele Höhen und Tiefen in seinem Leben – [hmmmmmm…] – ~
    Andreas Külzer,
    Düsseldorf [who met him there in 1988]

    I’ll add that it’s one of the most superficially convincing back-up stories for a past life I’ve seen among UK victims. Time to have a closer look at some of the writers there and some of those institutions listed.

    I get the strong feeling he is gay.

    **some mistake there, surely?

    in reply to: Deaths on 911? #10065
    xileffilex
    Participant

    I can’t get the Basildon link to work – gone the same way as the Youtube video? – but it’s not all good news on the planning front:
    July 30 2013

    Click to access BTC-PLANNING-30072013-MINUTES.pdf

    24
    P13/00712/FULL
    2 Hillhouse Drive
    Extension over existing garage and extension to rear dormer
    Resolved:
    The Town Council objected to this application on the grounds of:
    * Over development of the site
    * Detrimental to the residential amenity of 75 Stock Road

    in reply to: Deaths on 911? #10029
    xileffilex
    Participant

    Since Beale is, IMO, a sim…

    ..and everyone else. And you offer no evidence. A total waste of time.

    in reply to: Deaths on 911? #10022
    xileffilex
    Participant

    Hi Tom – thanks for trying to disentangle all this. I like your analysis. I believe almost all (I can’t be certain that there were some accidental deaths) were faked on 9/11. The scale of the hoax is massive, but it was 25 years in the making with commensurate resources available: faked identities with concocted photos. Plus some real people who disappeared afterwards probably. If you can fake your own death without any support then it’s as easy as ABC to fake a death. It happens all the time when criminals turned informers are given new lives. Yes the only hard evidence we have is BMD evidence, probate, the odd reference to their work lives pre-9/11, and a paucity of photos, perhaps so the “face” doesn’t get too ingrained into the memory [witness those thumbnails so frequently encountered in the newspapers: when you see a photo of the journalist in another photo, you’d think they weren’t even related!]. My default has to be that the person in a birth or marriage record exists. I don’t see an exact parallel between fake births and fake deaths. With the latter, security services or whoever can lean on any doctor pathologist or coroner and off it goes within days…. unquestioning press will put it to bed.
    I cannot rule out murder like locking everybody into Windows on the World. But unlikely. WHat I cannot buy (and that is my only real problem with Simon) is that there there no real lives whose deaths were faked on 9/11. Why are there no obvious sim photos from the UK in the 9/11 research?
    Other than that, I am as mystfied as you.

    in reply to: Tuam Babies PsyOp #10021
    xileffilex
    Participant

    There are a number of things wrong with that letter.

    “…from your priest…”

    in reply to: Deaths on 911? #10012
    xileffilex
    Participant

    Psyopticon – what you write is purely speculative. Interesting but with nothing to back it up. Indeed, the only fact unearthed would paradoxically support the genuine persona of Michele.

    You have evaded the matter of her offspring. Are they real? Who are their parents, if so? Why were they at such a posh fee-paying boarding school? Or in your mindset, is the school in on it also?

    psyopticon wrote:

    Assuming we agree that the 911 (and 77) victims are all fake,

    unfortunately I can’t make that leap based on what evidence we have.

    More for you to ponder over: how and why would Michele leave over a millon quids worth of capital? Where did Stuart go when the house was sold in 2004? Just because his FB page is somewhat anodyne doesn’t mean he is a sim, does it?

    in reply to: Tuam Babies PsyOp #10002
    xileffilex
    Participant

    Now weno longer have a septic tank – job having been done – now we have a tunnel….
    http://philipboucher-hayes.com/2014/06/12/tuam-new-understanding/#comments

    Plot A is the square shaped one Mary Moriarty says she fell into in the 1970’s when the ground subsided. A child was found playing with a baby’s skull and when Mary and neighbours investigated she discovered a large underground space with shelves from floor to ceiling stacked with infant bodies. She says she saw in excess of 100 tiny figures swaddled and guessed from the size they were newborn or stillborn.

    Subsequently she talked to a woman called Julia Devaney who had been a resident of the home and later an employee. By then in her late seventies she told Mary how she had assisted the nuns carrying dead babies along a tunnel running from the back of the home to this vault.

    Now obviously it will take excavation to confirm any of this……Albeit untested and unproven this is significant anecdotal evidence from within the home that the nuns were burying children in these sites.

    Hmmmm
    Must have been soooo easy to see all those stacked shelves in the 70s. So easy today also….

    in reply to: Deaths on 911? #10001
    xileffilex
    Participant

    Psyopticon
    What would be the purpose of creating a back story with those obscure adverts in old newspapers? You’re probably the first person ever to notice them. [thanks]

    IFF [Internatonal Faculty of Finance] seems to be associated with IIR, part of Informa plc based offshore in Jersey
    http://www.iff-training.com/page/about-us
    The International Faculty of Finance is one of the world’s leading specialist financial training organisations. Providing participants in the global financial markets with intensive technical training programmes designed to help them succeed on the global stage. Established in 1991 we have grown our business internationally and now deliver services in virtually every corner of the globe.
    …Risk Management
    ….
    Currently….

    IFF’s General Manager, Jeff Hearn, jhearn@iirltd.co.uk

    Du Berry was apparently married in 1987. I don’t attach any significance to her using the name Du Berry.
    Current address of IFF

    IFF
    4th Floor
    Maple House
    149 Tottenham Court Road
    London W1T 7AD

    https://www.informaglobalevents.com/
    https://www.iff-training.com

    Check the website around 1999 – nothing going on at all
    http://web.archive.org/web/19981212025808/http://www.iff-training.com/
    http://web.archive.org/web/20001017205712/http://www.iff-training.com/welcome2.htm

    I don’t find any online link between IFF and Market Towers – a very very strange building indeed, a kind of mini WTC with a very chequered history and one, I suspect of dramatic underoccupation and odd finances
    http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/commons/1975/dec/19/covent-garsen-market-authority
    http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/commons/1977/jan/11/covent-garden-market-financial

    What’s your take on Joe/Lizzie?

    There’s a strong theme of New Hall School – with large boarding contingent – running through the Beale FB pages.

    http://www.saatchigallery.com/sculpture/ArtworkDetails.php/image/335.html
    http://www.saatchigallery.com/sculpture/SchoolInfo/New+Hall+School/30.html

    Lizzie has scores of friends on FB at New Hall school. I’m getting the feeling that she is/was a boarder.
    Stuart himself even has FB friends at New Hall School…
    Conor McCaffrey ;Cydnie Edinburgh [ both b.1996, Essex]

    Any thoughts, Psyopticon? What about the estates of sims? Some of these UK 9/11 victims left hefty pots – some nothing (probably because they apparently had no financial or property interests left in the UK by 2001 – Geoff Campbell is a case in point)

    Tom – are you aware of the probate? The Risk Waters conference is key.

    in reply to: Rik Mayall – R.I.P #10000
    xileffilex
    Participant

    Let’s just wind back a bit to June 11th:

    The sudden death of comedian Rik Mayall is to be investigated as a post-mortem is authorised by a coroner, it has been announced.

    A pathologist is to conduct the post-mortem following the death of the 56-year-old, who had suffered seizures as the result of a head injury he received 16 years earlier.

    Mayall’s family have not yet been made aware of the cause of death, with his wife Barbara saying “we just don’t know” what happened.

    Mr Chinyere Inyama, a senior coroner for the London Borough of Richmond, has now authorised a post-mortem to investigate what happened, due to be carried out this week.

    The results are not expected to be released before Friday, when the coroner will decide whether to order an inquest.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/comedy/comedy-news/10892539/Rik-Mayall-sudden-death-to-be-investigated-as-post-mortem-goes-ahead.html

    Who else might conduct a post mortem? A comedian? A journalist?

    But it’s no longer a cardiac event, according to the experts (his wife) but an epileptic fit –

    His wife, Barbara Robbin has suggested that an epileptic fit could have been a possible cause of death.

    Speaking outside the couple’s home on Monday she said: “We don’t know yet what happened. He had a strong heart, so I don’t think it was a heart attack. But we just don’t know until the coroner’s report.”

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/comedy/comedy-news/10894626/Rik-Mayall-inconclusive-post-mortem-means-cause-of-death-could-take-weeks.html

    Now, we learn that the pathologist, assuming there was one involved, cannot find a cause of death. A few days ago, Barbara didn’t know the cause. Now she does, but the pathologist, allegedly, still doesn’t. Go figure.

    in reply to: Deaths on 911? #9993
    xileffilex
    Participant

    Thanks psyopticon.
    https://www.facebook.com/stuart.beale.50?fref=ts

    Off topic, the Paul Flowers story was a transparent psy-op.

    in reply to: Rik Mayall – R.I.P #9970
    xileffilex
    Participant

    Very loud warning bells are now sounding to me. If I might paraphrase radio news.
    The post mortem was inconclusive

    His wife says that he died from an “acute cardiac event” after returning from a run (not previously allueded to)

    His wife knows, the pathologst doesn’t.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/comedy/comedy-news/10895535/Rik-Mayall-had-heart-attack-after-morning-run-says-wife.html
    Coupled with the way oveor the top reporting of othis “comedian” be very very suspcious.
    Oh, he might also have suffered an epiliptic fit. As Jack Lee writes under that piece – comments allowed! –

    Jack Lee • an hour ago

    What an odd piece of news.

    Come on, we’re not stupid.

    in reply to: Deaths on 911? #9969
    xileffilex
    Participant

    Psyopticon writes:

    pluck a suitable sim birth certificate off the shelf in the months prior to a psyop, rapidly bolster the sim’s public profile, and then roll out the psyop with the sim at the centre.

    This is very very interesting. A sim is “hatched” at a random registrar’s office years before. Obviously with the knowledge of the real parents, since they have to spring into action perhaps 40 years later to continue whatever narrative has to surround the sim at that future unpredictable point in history. OK.

    Would it not be nice though to have just one example @9.25 of a certificate of the birth of a sim? That would be a world first.

    More interesting would be additional expenditure for certificates for marriage and parenthood of these virtual people. These events do exist. When would siblngs be brought into the picture of having a sim brother or sister?

    Such a void is presumably down to the sheer laziness and sloppiness of the sims’ creators

    So not so sloppy there then.

    As I said death certificates are no problems – names are put before an “inquiry” in bulk and the paperwork starts thanks to malleable pathologists, coroners, judges etc. all waiting for a gong.

    It’s just an unverifiable theory, albeit an interesting one. Unlike the much more convincing sim photos which are found currently at Cluesforum.
    Anyone else??

    Let us examine one example of a 9/11 victim.
    Michele DuBarry – birth recorded 1964
    Michele DuBarry – marriage recorded 1987
    Joe Stuart Beale, son, birth recorded 1995
    Elizabeth Anna Beale, daughter, birth recorded 1996

    https://www.facebook.com/joe.beale1?fref=ts

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