Banazir Galbasi [November 16, 2013 - 2:11 pm]: Hey Rollo. I was being genuine. I meant easy to get everyone to sign. It should be called Rawlo in your honor. :D columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 2:12 pm]: Looking back at the chatroom I have a few cents on Markus Allen. I found his site not long after Sandy Hook (which was kind of a wake-up event for me). On both his truthinsevenminutes, and hearing him on radio shows, he just sounds like a salesman. Really big turn off for some reason even though I agree with the *content* on his site (at least months ago last time I looked). columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 2:13 pm]: He always sounds like he's pitching corruption to other researchers. That we all have to play a certain game or we won't get traffic. columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 2:15 pm]: The idea that he sounds similar to wellaware1 is interesting. I'll have to listen to both and make my own conclusion. I certainly don't trust wellaware1, who seemingly had an army of spammers in every popular news story comment thread spamming earlobe actor theories a whol year before Sandy Hook. ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 2:16 pm]: @columjaddica: Oh yeah Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 2:17 pm]: @Ban ....thanks champ....I enjoy talking to you...its nice to see the raw calls going well as well Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 2:19 pm]: or should I say hear the raw calls...I wasnt being Absolutist columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 2:22 pm]: I think Markus Allen was a member on the forum I help run too for a short period of time earlier this year. I think he had some compliments for us but didn't participate much and I eventually removed the account (we remove accounts that go unused or silent use) ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 2:23 pm]: praise is a form of marketing columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 2:23 pm]: If I remember correctly there wasn columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 2:23 pm]: sorry, wasn't any real participation, just compliments ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 2:24 pm]: yeah, praise is a form of marketing columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 2:25 pm]: We went private after some people started showing up and saying things like "Oh I love your analysis here, really fantastic, just wanted to say thanks and can I get a list of active participants here?" columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 2:25 pm]: Then you dig into the screen-name of that person and find out they live one city away from Newtown and their family has long naval intelligence history columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 2:26 pm]: Yeah, time to go private... columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 2:27 pm]: Still not sure how to deal with that. If you go private then you have twice as much work writing up things on a separate public blog. Most of what I dig into never ends up posted anywhere publicly, so what's the point? We had a lot of trolls and suspect people when public though columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 2:29 pm]: Even after going private we had one participant copying private conversations and mocking them on his own blog (all over his obsession with homosexuals, which we all had slightly differing beliefs on, he didn' columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 2:29 pm]: didn columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 2:30 pm]: he was extremist on that and willing to throw away everything just to mock a few people because they didn't care about the subject much columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 2:31 pm]: It is a lot of work to run an internet community, especially a public one like fakeologist ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 2:31 pm]: sure is Banazir Galbasi [November 16, 2013 - 2:31 pm]: Hi Rollo. Yes they are lots of fun. Im proud of my friend Dusty for calling in to Brian Stavely and confronting Fetzer the other day. Did you hear That one? Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 2:36 pm]: @ban please drop the link Banazir Galbasi [November 16, 2013 - 2:42 pm]: I get the same feeling from markus. I like his information but there is a tone to his voice like he is talking down to you. I don't want to insult the guy and I don't think he is trying to necessarily deceive but he tends to take the first shot at others accusing them of shillery a little too early I think. Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 2:44 pm]: Ban ...do you have a link to Dusty Brian Fatzer thing? Id like to hear it columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 2:44 pm]: Yeah, it's his tone, also the nag popups on his site. Just put the information out there and let people take it or leave it... ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 2:44 pm]: @Rollo: http://www.therealnewsonline.com/uploads/6/5/2/9/6529494/fetzer_911_11_13_20_part_1a_2cd_cut.mp3 Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 2:44 pm]: thanks ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 2:44 pm]: @Rollo: and http://www.therealnewsonline.com/uploads/6/5/2/9/6529494/fetzer_911_11_13_20_part_2_shortened.mp3 Banazir Galbasi [November 16, 2013 - 2:45 pm]: Rollo when you first were on Abs show within a few minutes Markus accused you of being a phoney ioand of course you have spoken with him since then. Lately he has mentioned hat he wants to punch you in the face! Banazir Galbasi [November 16, 2013 - 2:45 pm]: Cheers Armunn. Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 2:45 pm]: I just want give him a great big Hug..... ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 2:45 pm]: yo Banazir ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 2:45 pm]: @Rollo: Bear hug Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 2:46 pm]: heh Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 2:48 pm]: In my opinion he was rude to Simon...i gave the same thing back to him.....sometimes Two wrongs make a right Banazir Galbasi [November 16, 2013 - 2:48 pm]: Of course he iS famous for accusing Simon of being a shill, Its like if he's ever wrong about so columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 2:48 pm]: Nobody cares that running a site costs money. I own three domains, three ssl certs, and three virtual private servers. That costs money and I am certainly not wealthy but this is my hobby and it matters to me to have an opportunity to speak. I don't need to sell other people on my methods and don't understand people like Markus that feel they have to. Banazir Galbasi [November 16, 2013 - 2:49 pm]: someone he cant admit he was wrong and move on. Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 2:50 pm]: Ive epic failed many times...just got to try and get right the next time.. columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 2:54 pm]: I've a question on the histogram spreadsheet. Is there a standard of significance to be included? There are a large amount of what appear to be psyops every day that aren't of the scale that is currently included. I mean the commuter train accidents, industrial accidents, bus flippings, etc that appear to have been an exercise presented as reality when you view the media. columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 2:56 pm]: One example would be the fire at the Blue Rhino in Tavares Florida. The thing was clearly a training exercise and took place a block away from a first responder training academy. The news stories even admitted that the facility was frequently used for firefighter training, but does something like this not notable enough to be included? columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 3:05 pm]: There are a dozen stories a day that look to be likely fake, but when it's stuff like transportation disasters with low casualty counts it's hard to say for certain. Accidents DO happen but I'm pretty certain the majority of accidents that make the ticker or a story on say CNN are fake. They are trying to justify the grid in control of transportation and are trying to show an increase in disast columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 3:07 pm]: Much as Eric Holder recently claimed a threefold increase in active shooter incidents they are trying to show an increase in urban disasters to go along with programs like the Rockefeller 100 years 100 cities resiliency challenge. So we get a ton of minor psyops every day, just to ratchet up the fear associated with transportation and to fudge the statistics to show "something needs to be done" JohnnyClues [November 16, 2013 - 3:08 pm]: @Banazir Galbasi: Dusty was good cornering fetzer.....who couldn't take the heat it seemed Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 3:09 pm]: @Ban Im enjoying this Stavely Vs Fatzer audio........let me know when Ab & Simon get going Jan Erik Hansen [November 16, 2013 - 3:16 pm]: This is going to be AWESOME i think :-D !!! ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 3:18 pm]: @Rollo: it's on Jan Erik Hansen [November 16, 2013 - 3:20 pm]: B) Jan Erik Hansen [November 16, 2013 - 3:21 pm]: http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Cointelpro Banazir Galbasi [November 16, 2013 - 3:27 pm]: Didn't he die first and then release his videos? ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 3:27 pm]: like Jesus Banazir Galbasi [November 16, 2013 - 3:27 pm]: Ace Rimmer that is... Banazir Galbasi [November 16, 2013 - 3:28 pm]: Died January 6 2009, then 2010 and on the videos... ab [November 16, 2013 - 3:29 pm]: http://www.cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?t=1094&p=2388150#p2388150 Banazir Galbasi [November 16, 2013 - 3:34 pm]: ab you're much louder than Simon and the video Banazir Galbasi [November 16, 2013 - 3:37 pm]: Should John Friend be questioned at this point? Anyone's take? Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 3:38 pm]: Why didn't John refer to Simon? ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 3:42 pm]: exactly, Carole ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 3:42 pm]: I commented extensively on that Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 3:44 pm]: Haven't had a chance to review comments yet - sorry! ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 3:44 pm]: http://fakeologist.com/2013/11/07/simon-meets-tom-and-friend/ Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 3:45 pm]: Thanks:) Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 3:46 pm]: This is the first time I've listened in live -exciting! Jan Erik Hansen [November 16, 2013 - 3:46 pm]: Logical falicy : apeal to authorety just now. ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 3:46 pm]: stay on for the raw, Carole Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 3:47 pm]: Is Ab gonna do Raw after this? ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 3:47 pm]: he said he might ab [November 16, 2013 - 3:47 pm]: maybe tonite at 9:11 Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 3:48 pm]: Good time for it:) Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 3:48 pm]: you should :) ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 3:48 pm]: the german lady said it, ab ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 3:48 pm]: obey! :D Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 3:50 pm]: Not German but live in Hamburg ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 3:50 pm]: ah so? genau! ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 3:50 pm]: :) JohnnyClues [November 16, 2013 - 3:51 pm]: @Rollo: good to see you back from vacation Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 3:51 pm]: Nice to be back...with Shack in the House doesnt get better than this..... Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 3:51 pm]: Rollo always has me in stitches Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 3:51 pm]: Nice to have him back Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 3:52 pm]: Lennon speaks way to quick for my slow brain Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 3:53 pm]: Like a pneumatic drill Banazir Galbasi [November 16, 2013 - 3:54 pm]: No way they can animate buildings blowing up in 2001. Not counting ID4, Armageddon, Deep Impact, Die Hard, Star Wars or any other action movie ever made... Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 3:54 pm]: Exploding buildings is so 90s! Brian-Staveley [November 16, 2013 - 3:55 pm]: a video on just the collapses being fake would be of good use. Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 3:56 pm]: well done ban ...I had that question written down for simon...in case we can call in and talk to simon towards the end of the show ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 3:57 pm]: i have a question too ab [November 16, 2013 - 3:57 pm]: http://www.cluesforum.info/viewforum.php?f=20&sid=b324c0b715f73959f8bfb94e2a62fb3f Brian-Staveley [November 16, 2013 - 3:57 pm]: Fetzer was pissed ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 3:58 pm]: and Mike from LA ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 3:58 pm]: credits deserved Brian-Staveley [November 16, 2013 - 3:58 pm]: cuz they can be in complete control of it and maybe they wanted to install me fear with the way they did it Brian-Staveley [November 16, 2013 - 3:59 pm]: *more fear Brian-Staveley [November 16, 2013 - 3:59 pm]: I agree with Simon on this. I just would love to be able to prove it a little easier Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 4:00 pm]: Nothing like Keeping it Simple Simon......this rocks my world Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 4:01 pm]: The plan is to keep people chasing their own tails Brian-Staveley [November 16, 2013 - 4:01 pm]: the fake collapses make it easy for them to make the towers come down ridiculously fast.The speed and uniformty of the collapses instilled fear in everyone Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 4:03 pm]: F.E.A.R. = False Events Appearing Real ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 4:03 pm]: LOL ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 4:03 pm]: nice one Carole Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 4:03 pm]: the only thing you have to fear is fear........Everybody....... Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 4:03 pm]: :) Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 4:03 pm]: ITSELF Brian-Staveley [November 16, 2013 - 4:04 pm]: What do you guys in your opinion think is the best video demonstrating the collapses being fake Brian-Staveley [November 16, 2013 - 4:04 pm]: armageddon just before 9/11 look just as realistic if not better Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 4:04 pm]: The birds did it for me. Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 4:04 pm]: speeding up....heheh Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 4:04 pm]: Yeo! Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 4:06 pm]: And the wobbling bridge. Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 4:07 pm]: not sure it was wobbling....but had know idea where it wanted to be Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 4:07 pm]: OK not wobbling but behaving badly Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 4:09 pm]: I wobble and behave badly sometimes.... Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 4:09 pm]: Pretty much the whole of lower Manhattan was behaving badly:) Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 4:10 pm]: Hehe Brian-Staveley [November 16, 2013 - 4:14 pm]: all the extra theories keeps the small percentage of us that care seperated in different camps and most cant work with each other. They accomplished their goal pretty well Brian-Staveley [November 16, 2013 - 4:16 pm]: i dont think nukes wouldnt make it look like that lol. even if they are real Brian-Staveley [November 16, 2013 - 4:16 pm]: i mean i DONT think nukes would make it look like that. TYPO Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 4:18 pm]: Why is it that some people never ask these questions and just accept the official story on everything? What happened to curiosity? Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 4:18 pm]: Deaductive reasoning isnt a11owed Jan Erik Hansen [November 16, 2013 - 4:21 pm]: No people who aply that are INSANE ? Brian-Staveley [November 16, 2013 - 4:21 pm]: nope Brian-Staveley [November 16, 2013 - 4:21 pm]: def not! Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 4:21 pm]: hey ab could you please ask simon why JF didnt mention September clues? Brian-Staveley [November 16, 2013 - 4:21 pm]: Ab your right about that ab [November 16, 2013 - 4:22 pm]: @Rollo: in this interview? Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 4:23 pm]: please Brian-Staveley [November 16, 2013 - 4:23 pm]: yes. i think he means this interview. John addresed why he didnt but i dont remember what he said ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 4:23 pm]: «I wanna come home...» - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oK9876dk_zg ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 4:25 pm]: Ab, I do have an important question for Simon, Rollo has another. Really no time to squeeze in a few questions? Brian-Staveley [November 16, 2013 - 4:26 pm]: Ace not only says it was video composites rather than CGI,but he says that some of this was done in real time,like the chopper 5 shots. I think thats ridiculous. This was well planned in advance and didnt need to be down on the fly. too much can go wrong ab [November 16, 2013 - 4:26 pm]: ok we'll fit them in then Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 4:26 pm]: good man Brian-Staveley [November 16, 2013 - 4:29 pm]: its too easy to make almost any numbers fit into the numerolgy stuff in my opinion. my radio partner is really into too. ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 4:29 pm]: true Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 4:29 pm]: Ab & simon keeping it real on the numbers thing.......nice ab [November 16, 2013 - 4:29 pm]: @Brian-Staveley: I suppose. I'm sure it's part of their signature though Brian-Staveley [November 16, 2013 - 4:31 pm]: i think in many cases it is.I just think sometimes ppl will say it about almost every number. I think that stuff isnt the best stuff to bring up tryna wake ppl up,but hey we are all awake here and Im not shooting it down totally. columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 4:31 pm]: The thing about numbers is strange. I think they are important but it's also bizarre how often the numbers come up in random stuff in my own life, and I know I am not choosing the numbers. If you start playing number+- /*number = evil number then almost everything looks like an evil number Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 4:32 pm]: We live in a house of numbers...along with the odd word Brian-Staveley [November 16, 2013 - 4:33 pm]: be back soon guys.gotta eat real quick ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 4:33 pm]: chew your food Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 4:33 pm]: The numbers refer to the human body imo. The original priesthood were anatomists. Brian-Staveley [November 16, 2013 - 4:34 pm]: lol ab [November 16, 2013 - 4:34 pm]: @Carole Thomas: yes 33 vertebrae I understand Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 4:35 pm]: I have 11 brain cells ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 4:35 pm]: LOL Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 4:35 pm]: Rollo has gone over to the dark side - beware! ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 4:35 pm]: he is NOT my father! Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 4:36 pm]: Spoilers :) Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 4:37 pm]: Simon called this the Roadrunner shot.... Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 4:37 pm]: Plane would hit the side and bounce off Banazir Galbasi [November 16, 2013 - 4:39 pm]: Why did witnesses film the empty sky and pan across to the towers only to have the planes inserted later? Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 4:40 pm]: We are at the castle keep Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 4:40 pm]: Fakery within the Fakery....Go Simon ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 4:41 pm]: ok, I got the answer to my question, ab ab [November 16, 2013 - 4:41 pm]: @ArmunnRigh: ok Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 4:41 pm]: What was your question, Armunn? ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 4:42 pm]: it was : Was the chopper 5 shot all CGI or composite? In either case, was the clear nose out "glitch" done on purpose or was it a mistake? columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 4:42 pm]: I believe that everybody from the local weather guy on up knows that the news is full of fakery. columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 4:42 pm]: Do you work with chroma keying on a daily basis? Well, it' columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 4:43 pm]: it's pretty hard to stay blind to all of the fake stories. (Sorry, I always hit enter by accident here at the chat, drives me crazy) columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 4:46 pm]: I struggle with the idea that a hundred-thousand people or more (in the US) might know what's going on but stay silent or go along. Although around the recent psyops there seems to be a lot of thinly veiled bragging going on (by the bystanders, people involved), so perhaps the silence is coming to an end. So many of the recent psyops seem to be designed to be uncovered. Banazir Galbasi [November 16, 2013 - 4:46 pm]: I thought John did mention it briefly, SC. columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 4:47 pm]: The LAX thing was obvious but also spawned a hoax about the shooting death of a former NSA director. Then a wave of indignation on Twitter from journalists whining that such fakery could make it into mainstream media (how meta!) Banazir Galbasi [November 16, 2013 - 4:48 pm]: SeptembeR Clues that is. Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 4:51 pm]: Simon is so modest. Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 4:51 pm]: hes a good man Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 4:54 pm]: SC is a watering hole - no cult. ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 4:57 pm]: I'm 16! Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 4:58 pm]: I have the same problem with my kids! Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 4:58 pm]: bullshit Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 4:58 pm]: im 11 Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 4:58 pm]: School system is very powerful ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 4:59 pm]: 11+16=27=2+7=9! Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 4:59 pm]: Armunn is a Kabbalist! ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 5:00 pm]: Cavala in portugal is a fish Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 5:00 pm]: Very fishy! Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 5:01 pm]: 9 is a powerful number .....Multiply any number between 1 and 10 by nine and then add the digits together... columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 5:01 pm]: Children today have no escape from peer pressure. 24/7/365 the social networks follow them around on their mobile. Judged 24 hours a day. Of course they are going to go with the crowd ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 5:02 pm]: Cavalas = http://img.alibaba.com/photo/671053176/scientific_name_of_mackerel_fish.jpg Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 5:03 pm]: MackerEL - the god fish:) ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 5:03 pm]: bigger mackerels are called carapaus Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 5:06 pm]: I hope I have sown some seeds of doubt in my kids but I don't want them to feel like freaks ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 5:09 pm]: @ab: no thorium was found at ground zero, so no nukes were used: IRREFUTABLE EVIDENCE :D Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 5:10 pm]: exploding plants.....beats imploding Carrots ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 5:10 pm]: I had a bean soup explode on me once - barely made it alive Jan Erik Hansen [November 16, 2013 - 5:11 pm]: ArmunnRigh the nuber cruncher :-D Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 5:11 pm]: heh Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 5:12 pm]: Jan & Arm ....please be kind to the nubers Jan Erik Hansen [November 16, 2013 - 5:12 pm]: Masonic Symbolism & 9/11 Occult Numerology http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3gJZw6X-LA ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 5:14 pm]: this part is verbatim of what he said in his video Jan Erik Hansen [November 16, 2013 - 5:14 pm]: ACE is a TURD ! Jan Erik Hansen [November 16, 2013 - 5:14 pm]: :) Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 5:15 pm]: Chopper Cam = WeScam Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 5:15 pm]: Turd Sandwich or a giant Douche...take your pick JohnnyClues [November 16, 2013 - 5:16 pm]: @Rollo: south park lol Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 5:16 pm]: you bet ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 5:16 pm]: is the chat down? columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 5:17 pm]: test Jan Erik Hansen [November 16, 2013 - 5:17 pm]: No refrech the page ! Jan Erik Hansen [November 16, 2013 - 5:18 pm]: I go for BOTH ROLLO !!!! :-D Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 5:18 pm]: Chat working all good here.. Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 5:18 pm]: funny Jan...good man ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 5:19 pm]: back ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 5:19 pm]: whoa ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 5:19 pm]: that was a nose out glitch ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 5:19 pm]: chat broke up here Jan Erik Hansen [November 16, 2013 - 5:19 pm]: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SQxEMok6zQ columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 5:19 pm]: I think they use compositing on a lot of the new psyops, whatever tool is best for the job. At places like the Bostom Marathon finish line they had whole trailers (if you can trust the still pictures) loaded with Grass Valley Cayenne live video editing and compositing equipment. But the idea of compositing on a helicopter in 2001? columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 5:23 pm]: And the newsmedia today have much more complete software for synchronizing the release of mediawith layerd permissions, and all sorts of organizational tools that they didn't have in 2001. I don't understand how they screw up so many psyops today unless it's intentional or the adoption of standards like NewML-G2 is not as widespread as I think ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 5:23 pm]: test 123 columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 5:26 pm]: Sorry, meant NewsML-G2 http://www.iptc.org/std/NewsML-G2/2.12/documentation/IPTC-G2-Implementation_Guide_5.0.pdf I think this standard is interesting, the recent version merged EventsML into the NewsML standard when previously planned events were a separate standard. It shows how they distribute and revoke or modify news stories in a top down fashion. Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 5:26 pm]: wow Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 5:27 pm]: I missed that.....my bad ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 5:27 pm]: thanks colum, saved it columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 5:29 pm]: I'm currently studying it (slowly). There are public implimentations of NewsML-G2 but it's kinda worthless without a certain kind of Reuters subscription. Understanding it helps explain some of the things you see in news URLs, filenames, image metadata, etc. Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 5:29 pm]: Etymology of “Ace” - Because this was the lowest roll at dice, ace was used metaphorically in Middle English for "bad luck" or "something of no value:) ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 5:29 pm]: interesting Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 5:30 pm]: but as the ace is often the highest playing card, the extended senses based on "excellence, good quality" arose 18c. as card-playing became popular. Ace in the hole in the figurative sense of "concealed advantage" is attested from 1904, from crooked stud poker deals. Banazir Galbasi [November 16, 2013 - 5:30 pm]: I saying that earlier about panning across the empty sky. Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 5:30 pm]: Concealed advantage LOL ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 5:30 pm]: And those planes did create a masonic boom in the area that day Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 5:31 pm]: Meaning "outstanding pilot" dates from 1917 (technically, in World War I aviators' jargon, one who has brought down 10 enemy planes, Jan Erik Hansen [November 16, 2013 - 5:31 pm]: The ACE TURD STINKS !!! Banazir Galbasi [November 16, 2013 - 5:31 pm]: Perhaps if George Lucas was directing. ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 5:31 pm]: Hey Jan, my girlfriend is an Ace Baker - her cakes are marvellous! columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 5:32 pm]: NewsML-2 is kind of agnostic on how you use it, so don't expect any smoking guns from reading the technical standard. But it does shed some light onto how news is distributed and controlled Banazir Galbasi [November 16, 2013 - 5:33 pm]: So why chance any footage being wrong wIth live on the day shots? Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 5:35 pm]: Is this the Square peg in the Round hole Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 5:38 pm]: Go Rollo, go! ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 5:38 pm]: Don't cry, Rollo :-) ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 5:41 pm]: «oh my god! oh my god!» ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 5:51 pm]: there aren't only official courts, guys ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 5:52 pm]: ask some guys in the middle ages ;) Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 5:56 pm]: ab, you are a great facilatator ab [November 16, 2013 - 5:58 pm]: @Carole Thomas: thanks farcevalue [November 16, 2013 - 5:58 pm]: My mother just called and asked me if I remembered the Kennedy coverage which I don't. She said I didn't want to watch the Macy's Day parade back then (I was 3) because I was tired of all the footage of funerals and motorcades and such. Probably on TV 24/7. Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 5:59 pm]: Teller Speaks! - YouTube farcevalue [November 16, 2013 - 6:00 pm]: Social Service rocks! Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 6:00 pm]: Teller explains the art of distraction http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5x14AwElOk Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 6:04 pm]: “There is nothing more deceptive than an obvious fact.” ― Arthur Conan Doyle, ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 6:06 pm]: LOL Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 6:07 pm]: Shakespeare nailed shills:“And thus I clothe my naked villainy With odd old ends stol'n out of holy writ; And seem a saint, when most I play the devil.” or e bil [November 16, 2013 - 6:08 pm]: Alternate ending "The Matrix" -- "Hi. It's me. I know you're out there. I can feel you now. I imagine you can also feel me. You won't have to search for me anymore. I'm done running. Done hiding. Whether I'm done fighting, I suppose, is up to you. I believe deep down, we both want this world to change. I believe that the Matrix can remain our cage or it can become our chrysalis, that's w or e bil [November 16, 2013 - 6:08 pm]: hat you helped me to understand. That to be truly free, truly free, you cannot change your cage. You have to change yourself. When I used to look out at this world, all I could see was its edges, its boundaries, its leaders and laws. But now, I see another world. A different world where all things are possible. A world of hope. Of peace. I can't tell you how to get there, but I know if you can fr or e bil [November 16, 2013 - 6:09 pm]: ee your mind, you'll find the way.". Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 6:15 pm]: Great point,Armunn! Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 6:16 pm]: Age of Aquarius:) Videre Licet [November 16, 2013 - 6:17 pm]: @ArmunnRigh: Ah... Was I a part of your epiphany?:favorite: ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 6:18 pm]: ah yes Videre Licet [November 16, 2013 - 6:21 pm]: Right! That is the distraction. The Psyops! Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 6:21 pm]: We are in the apocalypse (ie the unveiling:)) Videre Licet [November 16, 2013 - 6:22 pm]: Maybe they know they are losing the attention of the masses. columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 6:23 pm]: I think that you can get a good look at the reason for the fakery now. I see it in Rockefeller foundation 100 Years 100 Cities challenge. They are trying to show that everything is so dangerous in order to justify changes to society to make us more "resilient". You see it in the psychological studies of trauma relating to 9/11 and it just continues from there. Videre Licet [November 16, 2013 - 6:23 pm]: Right Rollo columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 6:23 pm]: It's about using trauma. They give us all of these resilient role models that turn around the next day after their kid died and pull a legislative gun control proposal out of their purse with a smile on the face Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 6:23 pm]: They are operating from the r-complex Videre Licet [November 16, 2013 - 6:24 pm]: Are you redirecting?... Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 6:25 pm]: They are not smart - repetitive patterns, stupid number games, duper's delight columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 6:26 pm]: Look at the research of Roxane Cohen Silver and her relationship with DHS to see some of the reason for these events. Videre Licet [November 16, 2013 - 6:28 pm]: (((((GROUP HUG))))) Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 6:28 pm]: great show, ab Videre Licet [November 16, 2013 - 6:29 pm]: fLOWER pOwER!! ab [November 16, 2013 - 6:31 pm]: sorry I had to end it (early) ... what a great line up ab [November 16, 2013 - 6:31 pm]: Power panel Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 6:32 pm]: Thank you for the show:) ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 6:33 pm]: @Rollo: This is you :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvTNyKIGXiI Banazir Galbasi [November 16, 2013 - 6:34 pm]: Fantastic show Ab. Gets better every time. . Thanks Simon for everything. Cheers Rollo! Jan Erik Hansen [November 16, 2013 - 6:35 pm]: :) Banazir Galbasi [November 16, 2013 - 6:35 pm]: Tom, Armunn, well done. Carole Thomas [November 16, 2013 - 6:38 pm]: Dr Seuss:to Rollo “Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. Videre Licet [November 16, 2013 - 6:40 pm]: @ArmunnRigh: Hahaha I love it! ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 6:40 pm]: :D Videre Licet [November 16, 2013 - 6:41 pm]: @Carole Thomas: Such good advice for Rollo. Videre Licet [November 16, 2013 - 6:41 pm]: We adore his sensitive soul! columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 7:05 pm]: Armun, if you get a chance to browse that NewsML-G2 guide, the intro is interesting but also chapter 15 on the new "Planning Item", scheduled time of delivery, etc. There's some functionality there that would be really useful for faking news and keeping it compartmentalized in the proper ways until the proper times columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 7:07 pm]: It's not damning on it's own. You might want a planning item for scheduled sports games, etc. But I think knowing how it works and how news is distributed is useful to people doing research ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 7:11 pm]: I will check it in the next few days for sure Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 7:19 pm]: that went well....Abs probably exausted Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 7:21 pm]: I am who I Am and say what I feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 7:22 pm]: that wasnt me that was the Dr Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 7:35 pm]: WWF Raw? ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 7:36 pm]: @Rollo: I think ab should invite this guy for a call, see what he has to say http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D05WZjt8ra0 Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 7:49 pm]: @arm ....none taken :) ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 7:49 pm]: :D Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 7:52 pm]: Karaoke time......Lets all sing along http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQYQTFudrqc ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 7:52 pm]: Nena über alles ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 7:58 pm]: @Rollo: We looked good on stage for this performance, mate http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jj7pDNDuoJ0 columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 7:59 pm]: BBC used to have a site with the "Donald Rumsfeld quote of the week". It was pretty golden, might still be on wayback machine (they were .rm files) columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 8:01 pm]: Why did the news seem so much more fun during the Rumsfeld and Baghdad Bob era? The characters we get today, the talking heads, have no sense of humor like they did during the Bush era columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 8:05 pm]: Or maybe I've just lost my sense of humor when it comes to "the news" ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 8:06 pm]: the noose LusitAna [November 16, 2013 - 8:07 pm]: I like the 'unkown unknowns' one but I think we all know that one :) columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 8:07 pm]: Yeah, this old BBC page had a lot of ones, some that aren't well known today columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 8:07 pm]: It's in the memory hole though, or maybe on wayback LusitAna [November 16, 2013 - 8:08 pm]: there are a few on yt columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 8:09 pm]: Baghdad Bob: "We have them surrounded in their tanks" columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 8:09 pm]: Bob: Britain "is not worth an old shoe." (hmm, shoes and Iraq) columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 8:12 pm]: Baghdad Bob was worth a good time for Americans but he didn't make the deck of cards and was able to assume as normal a life as possible after Baghdad fell. columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 8:13 pm]: or so they say Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 8:20 pm]: that did go well? Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 8:21 pm]: confirm confirm :) ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 8:23 pm]: @Rollo: We looked good on stage for this performance, mate http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jj7pDNDuoJ0 - are you talking about this? columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 8:24 pm]: I'm still lost when listening to the shows, half the time Iwho is who, also not that well versed on 9/11 compared to most of the people here. I believed it was remote controlled planes until a year ago. The show was interesting though. I like the show best when the topic comes to new psyops columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 8:25 pm]: Grr, accidental enter again. Meant "half the time I'm trying to figure out who is speaking" Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 8:28 pm]: @arm........ wow none taken again......so sad more Karaoke for you http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fw07CDid0JM ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 8:28 pm]: Mrs. Miller!!! Legendary ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 8:29 pm]: My favorite of hers is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uV0MtVWIN8Y LusitAna [November 16, 2013 - 8:30 pm]: and here is our Portuguese Mrs Miller :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jESR_FuGOe0 ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 8:30 pm]: AHAHAH ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 8:30 pm]: This woman is legendary here in Portugal Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 8:33 pm]: I feel for this womaqn like I do the Appollo Astronauts ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 8:33 pm]: :D AHAHAH Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 8:33 pm]: made a fool of ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 8:34 pm]: my belly aches with the strain ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 8:34 pm]: well, Rollo, this one I'm sure she lives on the moon, unlike the Apollo guys LusitAna [November 16, 2013 - 8:35 pm]: c'mon, she's singing about love :favorite::D Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 8:35 pm]: its a11 i need LusitAna [November 16, 2013 - 8:37 pm]: that's beatles programming, isn't it? ab [November 16, 2013 - 8:43 pm]: Hi gang...Family night tonite, maybe we'll do a short raw tomorrow. Today's show went longer than I thought, and was well attended too. Posting it now. ArmunnRigh [November 16, 2013 - 8:43 pm]: alright, ab, have a good one Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 8:43 pm]: thanks ab Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 8:46 pm]: http://www.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=http://uploads4.wikipaintings.org/images/jan-matejko/sta%25C5%2584czyk-during-a-ball-at-the-court-of-queen-1862.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.wikipaintings.org/en/jan-matejko/sta%25C5%2584czyk-during-a-ball-at-the-court-of-queen-1862&h=595&w=800&sz=108&tbnid=EzKodyCAVFbOkM:&tbnh=95&tbnw=128&zoom=1&usg=__HHM8JMu6XBpaw68R2j61koSwwSc=&docid=uAd-VGYhEnazBM&sa=X&ei=3h- Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 8:48 pm]: take 2................................--------------------->http://www.wikipaintings.org/en/jan-matejko/sta%C5%84czyk-during-a-ball-at-the-court-of-queen-1862 Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 8:58 pm]: that painting speaks to me......anyways....everyone ok in the chat? Banazir Galbasi [November 16, 2013 - 9:01 pm]: Hi guys Rollo [November 16, 2013 - 9:02 pm]: hey Ban....I can hear crickets ;) Banazir Galbasi [November 16, 2013 - 9:07 pm]: Skype Rollo? Dustyash [November 16, 2013 - 9:07 pm]: Hello busy today for me finally home sounds like a good day everybody contribution is very encouraging Dustyash [November 16, 2013 - 9:08 pm]: everybody's contribution is so invaluable on here I sure wish I was here to listen live this afternoon Videre Licet [November 16, 2013 - 10:54 pm]: Maybe he wasn't a profit... Maybe he was just someone who had access to the plan... Doesn't seem so magic anymore. Videre Licet [November 16, 2013 - 10:54 pm]: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hC4g5pQ2GhY Videre Licet [November 16, 2013 - 10:56 pm]: Did I say prophet?! Videre Licet [November 16, 2013 - 10:57 pm]: :D columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 11:17 pm]: Check out this picture of the Space Shuttle Atlantis after takeoff columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 11:17 pm]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Atlantis_launch_plume_edit.jpg columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 11:24 pm]: Just a strange picture. I used to live in West Palm Beach Florida and I remember my teacher taking us outside to a field to watch the shuttle launch. I remember seeing it somewhat but I mostly remember that it was unimpressive. This description of shuttle launch watching makes it sound pretty unimpressive, even hard to see. http://www.austintek.com/shuttle/ columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 11:54 pm]: That guy doesn't sound like he ever had a lot of luck seeing the shuttle launch. Search the page for 'Hohmann minimum energy' for an interesting question about the orbit of the shuttle. Then check out the wikipedia page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hohmann_transfer_orbit The part about planetary gravity assist, does that make much sense? columjaddica [November 16, 2013 - 11:55 pm]: How much boost could one of the other planets give to something in orbit of earth? I wouldn't think it would be significant but what do I know? columjaddica [November 17, 2013 - 12:08 am]: Oh boy, gotta watch this about an art project in space, wow http://vimeo.com/53655801# http://paglen.com/lastpictures/main.php?m=overview&p= columjaddica [November 17, 2013 - 12:08 am]: The stuff the Nato guy says columjaddica [November 17, 2013 - 12:20 am]: http://www.paglen.com/?l=work&s=othernightsky columjaddica [November 17, 2013 - 12:27 am]: "Limit-telephotography" used to see things too far away to see. Wouldn't this be impeded by the horizon? Or is he in an aircraft? http://www.paglen.com/?l=work&s=limit columjaddica [November 17, 2013 - 12:33 am]: I can't find much about limit photography other than from Paglen but I guess if the thing is on top of a mountain it might be possible columjaddica [November 17, 2013 - 12:37 am]: Thinking about it more, it would be possible. For the horizon to be 40 miles away you would have to be roughly 1100ft tall. So some facility on top of a sufficiently tall mountain would be visible from 40 miles away assuming the smog doesn't obscure it. The guy has some interesting pics though and some questionable ones columjaddica [November 17, 2013 - 1:00 am]: 11 reported dead after 9 people carrying axes attack police station in Xinjiang province of China, local media says - @BBCNews columjaddica [November 17, 2013 - 1:00 am]: Death toll reaches 26 as floodwaters begin to withdraw in central Vietnam - @bangkokpost Jan Erik Hansen [November 17, 2013 - 11:39 am]: http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/talkCast.jsp?masterId=130788&cmd=tc smj [November 17, 2013 - 8:24 pm]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoQlwZQJIbw columjaddica [November 17, 2013 - 8:26 pm]: Haha, Jungle Surfer posts some good stuff but I never went back into his thousands of old videos and this new youtube fight stuff. Or the souls lost on 9/11 post, lol columjaddica [November 17, 2013 - 8:27 pm]: When he sticks to picking apart american psyops it's alright columjaddica [November 17, 2013 - 8:29 pm]: I thought this music video was interesting (Rammstein - Amerika Extended) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrRdoY2kzbg Dustyash [November 17, 2013 - 8:41 pm]: Great song here very interesting http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MJIcPznlY0r Dustyash [November 17, 2013 - 8:45 pm]: I think Ab should use this on some of his bumper music on his radio show Dustyash [November 17, 2013 - 8:45 pm]: He should use Sons And Daughters Reprise part of the song Dustyash [November 17, 2013 - 8:46 pm]: part 2 columjaddica [November 17, 2013 - 8:46 pm]: That track builds up to the good part Dustyash [November 17, 2013 - 8:46 pm]: yes cool song I love it columjaddica [November 17, 2013 - 8:47 pm]: Haha, better song than the Rammstein, just posted that because of the video columjaddica [November 17, 2013 - 8:50 pm]: I never heard that before Dustyash [November 17, 2013 - 8:51 pm]: It is cool stuff columjaddica [November 17, 2013 - 8:52 pm]: It might be a bit long for bumper music, we already got like 3 hour shows sometimes or whatever :P columjaddica [November 17, 2013 - 8:52 pm]: I'm still confused most of the time here what shows are what, what times, who is who when speaking Dustyash [November 17, 2013 - 8:53 pm]: Right maybe if he just plays part 2 of the song tho Son and Daughters Reprise part? columjaddica [November 17, 2013 - 8:53 pm]: It seems like I'm missing something but there needs to be a better way to show when shows are live. I don't use skype columjaddica [November 17, 2013 - 8:53 pm]: Yeah the part after it builds up first would be good Dustyash [November 17, 2013 - 8:54 pm]: he announces and posts when a show is live Dustyash [November 17, 2013 - 8:54 pm]: he may do raw tonight but I have my doubts I might be wrong columjaddica [November 17, 2013 - 8:54 pm]: Ah columjaddica [November 17, 2013 - 9:16 pm]: “Plug it in, turn it on, say goodbye to Sunday afternoon Fix the antenna, sit back and let disaster bloom" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrgMkez5bS8 Anders-Lindman [November 18, 2013 - 12:29 am]: The guest who said that the videos were real but that a plane was inserted is correct I think. Anders-Lindman [November 18, 2013 - 12:36 am]: Some of the amateur videos were exactly timed to pan to the explosions without a plane in the air! Often other people gave time signals such as in the Fairbanks video: http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/8997/tmp1z.jpg and http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/3115/tmp2c.jpg columjaddica [November 18, 2013 - 12:50 am]: Images from tornadogeddon today, https://twitter.com/chicagotribune/status/402275367869632513 columjaddica [November 18, 2013 - 12:50 am]: Top pic looks silly as hell to me http://galleries.apps.chicagotribune.com/chi-131117-washington-tornado-pictures/ columjaddica [November 18, 2013 - 1:02 am]: I think there was a degree of fakery in some past weather events, specifically Joplin, MO. and Moore, OK. The people interviewed seem like vicsims. The people making the story make out like bandits from insurance and real-estate fraud, and then during rebuilding when everything gets rebuilt to expensive LEED standards. Roll in Discovery channel to film the new fly-ash radioactive LEED buildings columjaddica [November 18, 2013 - 1:02 am]: and say something about climate change and extreme weather columjaddica [November 18, 2013 - 1:05 am]: Washington Ill photos looking a lot like Moore, OK. Somebody has been out really quick putting the X on everything. Wonder if we'll see surface rust on what should be newly bare metal again (like seen on wrecks in Moore at the hospital)? http://i.imgur.com/09tIEby.jpg columjaddica [November 18, 2013 - 1:14 am]: I don't know what really to believe any longer but after Moore and seeing the obvious product placement like the Chinese girl that lost her newly FDA approved cochlear implant in the tornado (one implanted, one lost) it became clear something was going on. Right after the whole focus on prosthetics coming out of Boston bombing. One last pic from today http://i.imgur.com/MEkHTsY.jpg UNreal [November 18, 2013 - 5:05 am]: Very interesting interview with D.McGowan where links are made between the fabrication of entertainment figures for use in intelligence work (a good reason for DCP programs on end of mission?), and the use and fabrication of serial killers as patsy's for covering up murders DL link UNreal [November 18, 2013 - 5:06 am]: The last 20 minutes of J.Fetzer's interview with S.Smallstorm propose a very interesting take on how nuclear radiation can cover up damage from cell & wireless exposure. Seen from this angle, Japan's Fukushima becomes more of a useful accident as their use of wireless is off the charts.... <a href="http://nwopodcast.com/fetz/media/jim%20fetzer%20real%20deal-smallstorm%20sandy%20hook%20plus%20fu ab [November 18, 2013 - 5:13 am]: @UNreal: I will listen to it today. I really do wonder if they will ever look into wireless exposure...but I doubt it aybesea [November 18, 2013 - 10:59 am]: what's up Ab?:P aybesea [November 18, 2013 - 11:00 am]: just saw your Skype message..3 days later...email me dude..jeez aybesea [November 18, 2013 - 11:00 am]: I think my blog is blocked from bing...your was to after I searched it. then it didn't come up again ab [November 18, 2013 - 12:46 pm]: @aybesea: I'll email you then. So many ways to communicate and none work! ArmunnRigh [November 18, 2013 - 5:09 pm]: Another 9/11 mystery solved :D - http://fakeologist.com/forums/topic/oh-my-god/ aralsea [November 18, 2013 - 7:43 pm]: Finished ep 76 Simon Shack plus Ab, Rollo, Armunn and Tom in CT. IT was a great insightful call and a great meeting of minds. ArmunnRigh [November 18, 2013 - 7:45 pm]: thanks - it was a pity it had to end when it was coming to the juicier stuff fakeologist [November 18, 2013 - 7:56 pm]: @aralsea: @ArmunnRigh: yes sorry. I didn't think it would last that long but of course we get interrupted by great listeners... fakeologist [November 18, 2013 - 7:57 pm]: chris has a call: http://cent5.serverhostingcenter.com/start/tksnsdwc/ wolfman9 [November 18, 2013 - 9:49 pm]: I have to agree with columjaddica a bit, there does seem to be something hoaky going on with disaster news reporting. I could not believe what I heard when I saw this on t.v. the other day, @0:40. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdXYazqlSZ0 And the tornado Family Guy episode that aired right before the Moore tornado, was rather timely.. ArmunnRigh [November 18, 2013 - 10:08 pm]: "Like a movie" again heh? columjaddica [November 18, 2013 - 10:30 pm]: I dug into the Moore thing a lot (with some help) and it looks like Plaza Towers Elementary and the hospital might be fake. Lots of strange things about what went down at the theater as well, and the people involved with all of those places. It's hard to say that no storm took place, but the majority of most striking images and stories were from those three places only. columjaddica [November 18, 2013 - 10:32 pm]: Basically, I think the people they interviewed all over the place were actors, and if people did lose things they weren't the ones we saw on tv. Everything was too perfect and the people they interviewed all had backgrounds that fit nicely into certain political themes or things like newly approved medical technology. columjaddica [November 18, 2013 - 10:33 pm]: George Zimmerman was charged Monday with felony aggravated assault after allegedly pointing a shotgun at his girlfriend. I knew that story wasn't over, now they can whip up the blacks again because it looks like Zimmerman is a 'loose cannon'. When he's outlived his usefulness they can just do him like the Ariel Castro character http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/18/justice/florida-george-zimmerman-arr columjaddica [November 18, 2013 - 10:34 pm]: Got cut off http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/18/justice/florida-george-zimmerman-arrest/ columjaddica [November 18, 2013 - 10:36 pm]: For more proof they are trying to inflame race tensions. Cheeck out this story from Michigan. Note the background with the three white disney princesses. Now zoom in and look around the black girl columjaddica [November 18, 2013 - 10:38 pm]: Around her hair and neck, and you'll see that she was poorly pasted on that background. Now if I give it the benefit of the doubt, and say it's a true story, then the editor just accepted and ran that fabricated picture from the family of the lawyer. http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index.ssf/2013/05/trial_for_detroit_police_offic.html columjaddica [November 18, 2013 - 10:39 pm]: Volumes have been written about how white disney princesses are "racist", and most editors are not so politically unsavvy to miss the significance of that and miss the obvious photoshopping. columjaddica [November 18, 2013 - 11:51 pm]: Err, meant 'the lawyer of the family' Jan Erik Hansen [November 19, 2013 - 6:30 pm]: The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the [public] is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country Edward Bernays quotes from BOOK PROPAGANDA Jan Erik Hansen [November 19, 2013 - 6:31 pm]: For you see, the world is governed by very different personages from what is imagined by those who are not behind the scenes. Benjamin Disraeli quotes aralsea [November 20, 2013 - 7:10 am]: Reaction to recent Simon Shack interviews and upcoming planes/no planes debate with John F http://recordings.talkshoe.com/TC-16999/TS-804457.mp3 Tom-Dalpra [November 20, 2013 - 7:49 am]: Good quotes Jan Erik - 'the conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organised habits and opinions of the public'. - that's real government. Johan Backes [November 20, 2013 - 7:54 am]: offtopic: have a gander at this re: ergo: false flag and active shoter drills etc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtTgjnMQ1A4 a real edumacation! Tom-Dalpra [November 20, 2013 - 8:23 am]: Oh yes, nice one Johan. Fascinating bit of footage. Cracking me up with the fake injury outfits too. It's a drill... Tom-Dalpra [November 20, 2013 - 8:31 am]: What do they call it ''FIRE drill'' - Three 'Umpires' - they're bent... Jan Erik Hansen [November 20, 2013 - 9:04 am]: ;) Jan Erik Hansen [November 20, 2013 - 3:26 pm]: No people will tamely surrender their Liberties, nor can any be easily subdued, when knowledge is diffused and Virtue is preserved. On the Contrary, when People are universally ignorant, and debauched in their Manners, they will sink under their own weight without the Aid of foreign Invaders. Samuel Adams quotes Videre Licet [November 20, 2013 - 8:43 pm]: This google search always brightens my day: https://www.google.com/#q=33-year-old+shot&tbs=qdr:w Videre Licet [November 20, 2013 - 8:44 pm]: I am sure it terrifies most... ;) Videre Licet [November 20, 2013 - 8:50 pm]: Or this one: https://www.google.com/#q=psyop&tbs=qdr:d,sbd:1 Videre Licet [November 20, 2013 - 8:52 pm]: The same message coming out on 50 different websites within seconds/minutes of each other. Someone wants to spread the word. smj [November 21, 2013 - 4:30 am]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jf1NG6Us8Y4 ab [November 21, 2013 - 5:27 am]: http://moreab.com/2013/11/21/knockout-game-what-fun/ ab [November 21, 2013 - 9:02 pm]: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dl_pY9P1YtI Ed C's movie has nuggets and ear disinfo columjaddica [November 21, 2013 - 11:40 pm]: Listening to live stream, the thing about Twitter is spot on. When I read stories like LAX (or anything really) the bystanders are nearly always people involved in media products with twitter accounts. They don't even look real half of the time, I think that most twitter accounts are robots and they mostly speak with other robots because the computer programs are easier to write realistic text columjaddica [November 21, 2013 - 11:42 pm]: When they mostly speak with each other. Twitter has been doing a series of experiments lately with push notification. See @eventparrot (yes, this experimental account has mostly pushed fake stories (shootings and NASA stuff)). But Twitter has been pushing tweets (with notification) to people that are unsubscribed to anything related. It is similar to reverse 911 (hearving a lot about that lately) columjaddica [November 21, 2013 - 11:43 pm]: and un-disableable presidential texts on Android/IOS etc. columjaddica [November 21, 2013 - 11:43 pm]: This stuff won't go unused and I'm looking forward to the upcoming psyop pushed through Twitter. They just got rich off of an IPO and that comes with a price... columjaddica [November 21, 2013 - 11:44 pm]: The character limit makes it much harder to distinguish fake accounts from real ones, especially when the fake accounts converse with other fake accounts. columjaddica [November 21, 2013 - 11:46 pm]: I have a lot of fun on twitter, especially checking out the accounts it recommends (most of my twitter usage is research into bystanders of likely fake events). The recommendations are usually gold. The weird seeks you out on Twitter. UNreal [November 22, 2013 - 7:23 am]: in doubt on the jesuit-jewish issue, HERE is a quite intriguing addition to the blood-trail (RhD negative) of our elite elaborated by Clint Richardson on his radio-show smj [November 22, 2013 - 10:47 am]: @ab since watching the bug's jfk video over a year ago, i haven't been able to unsee jfk as carter. i also haven't been able to figure out his use of "deja vous" at the 37 minute mark. is it something esoteric or shitty french? very shitty french. ab [November 22, 2013 - 12:19 pm]: @smj: I forgot why that video was so bad. It starts off with a few good contradictions, but the ear analysis makes me drop it all. This is perfect poisoning of the well. I can't see ANYONE looking like Carter, but if you are thrown off, then Dallas has done his work. wolfman9 [November 22, 2013 - 2:06 pm]: Another way to interpret numerology, the 'I ching'. #33, retreat: 'The power of the dark is ascending. The light retreats to security, so that the dark cannot encroach upon it. This retreat is a matter not of man's will but of natural law. Therefore in this case withdrawal is proper; it is the correct way to behave in order not to exhaust one's forces.' smj [November 22, 2013 - 2:47 pm]: @ ab it's not so much that the bug threw me off, as confirmed a suspicion; that all presidents are in fact, the actor in chief. and a sign of a great actor is the ability to perform disparate roles, not that any of this matters in the grand scheme of things and whatnot. jfk's handlers had handlers who likely had handlers and so forth. Jan Erik Hansen [November 22, 2013 - 5:08 pm]: Official Membership list of the 1001 Club https://deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/showthread.php?1380-Official-Membership-list-of-the-1001-Club#.Uo_Ki0Cv-zk ArmunnRigh [November 22, 2013 - 8:44 pm]: Another tool for perception management? It can project "realities" onto moving objects: http://youtu.be/lX6JcybgDFo and here's the "making of", showing the technology: http://youtu.be/y4ajXJ3nj1Q Incredulous [November 23, 2013 - 11:07 am]: Ab, with so many forums and groups purportedly trying to spread the truth, who do we believe? Especially since everybody claims the other is spreading disinformation or is run by shills. In theory aren't we all trying to come to the same conclusion and find the truth? Why is there so much animosity between these groups? Incredulous [November 23, 2013 - 11:08 am]: So again, how can we believe anything anyone says if following this logic everyone is a disinformation agent or a shill trying to steer you back into this "rabbit hole?" ArmunnRigh [November 23, 2013 - 11:17 am]: Disinformation agents or shills are put in place to both stop the "unworthy"'s search and to motivate the "worthy" to move past them with a sense of merit. Let's call them "gatekeepers". Still, not every gatekeeper is a shill, necessarily. A strong belief in a piece of information or a script and a strong personal investment in a "truth" can make gatekeepers of any of us. Incredulous [November 23, 2013 - 12:03 pm]: I suppose it's up to us to believe what we think is right then. ab [November 23, 2013 - 3:21 pm]: @Incredulous: I think I'm right, until I find someone who can persuade me to be "another" right. I don't believe anyone 100%, since I know THEY can't know either. Most people here at fakeologist "sense" what's right, and go with it. It's our ability here to have the flexibility of not being certain of anything that makes us unique. Is that vague enough for you?:? ab [November 23, 2013 - 3:40 pm]: trending on google yesterday...capital of canada http://youtu.be/r0fdYhgJIeE Incredulous [November 23, 2013 - 3:41 pm]: Just the kind of answer I was expecting. Thanks, Ab. :D ab [November 23, 2013 - 4:01 pm]: @Incredulous: I'll take that as a positive, since that's what I try and stay.:P Incredulous [November 23, 2013 - 6:07 pm]: Ab, what are your thoughts on forum randi? Is this a controlled opposition group? Tom-Dalpra [November 23, 2013 - 7:46 pm]: I just read some pathetic thread on Randi forum called 'How far will Sept Clues Go'. It was started by someone called Minimum Wage Shill. Tom-Dalpra [November 23, 2013 - 7:52 pm]: Randi is like Penn and Teller. Controlled mainstream-'alternative'. Tom-Dalpra [November 23, 2013 - 7:55 pm]: I'd rather watch Chinese Spoice Wockets for my laughs. You get the whole trip here in 13 minutes 40. Fly me to the stars - Chino stylee it makes me smile http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LndYEpfr1UA ab [November 23, 2013 - 8:46 pm]: @Incredulous: never looked into it much really Tom-Dalpra [November 23, 2013 - 8:48 pm]: gotta sleep. have a good show. ab [November 23, 2013 - 9:07 pm]: @Tom-Dalpra: nite nite Dustyash [November 23, 2013 - 9:10 pm]: should be a good night on Fakeologist radio as always Dustyash [November 23, 2013 - 9:11 pm]: welcome everybody Cheers ab [November 23, 2013 - 9:11 pm]: hope so ArmunnRigh [November 23, 2013 - 9:12 pm]: This should play before Blue Moon comes on: http://youtu.be/6lDtH95B5F4 :D Banazir Galbasi [November 23, 2013 - 9:14 pm]: Great song. Keep it Dark. Blue Moon [November 23, 2013 - 9:15 pm]: ok ArmunnRigh [November 23, 2013 - 9:15 pm]: :D cheers Blue Moon Banazir Galbasi [November 23, 2013 - 9:15 pm]: It sounded like they were gonna name Oswald pretty quickly on the news report there. Reminds me of some other big media event... Blue Moon [November 23, 2013 - 9:16 pm]: cheers back at you Dustyash [November 23, 2013 - 9:16 pm]: hello blue moon ArmunnRigh [November 23, 2013 - 9:16 pm]: Lee Harvey Bin Laden Blue Moon [November 23, 2013 - 9:16 pm]: yo dusty Banazir Galbasi [November 23, 2013 - 9:17 pm]: Ha Armunn!:D Dustyash [November 23, 2013 - 9:17 pm]: yo yo hello can't wait to hear your thoughts on this topic should be good ArmunnRigh [November 23, 2013 - 9:17 pm]: :P Dustyash [November 23, 2013 - 9:17 pm]: hello Armunn ArmunnRigh [November 23, 2013 - 9:18 pm]: hey dusty ArmunnRigh [November 23, 2013 - 9:18 pm]: hey banazir Dustyash [November 23, 2013 - 9:21 pm]: http://oswaldpatsy.tripod.com/ wolfman9 [November 23, 2013 - 9:24 pm]: Happy Miley Cyrus' birthday everybody, cheers! ArmunnRigh [November 23, 2013 - 9:24 pm]: LOL wolfman9 [November 23, 2013 - 9:25 pm]: She was only on every channel today. Why is she such a good role model for the kids? I watch too much t.v. *facepalm* Banazir Galbasi [November 23, 2013 - 9:26 pm]: Hi Armunn. wolfman9 [November 23, 2013 - 9:26 pm]: cuban cigars, jfk loved them. ArmunnRigh [November 23, 2013 - 9:29 pm]: @wolfman9: I love them too wolfman9 [November 23, 2013 - 9:30 pm]: oh, yes, me too. damn, trade embargo :-( ArmunnRigh [November 23, 2013 - 9:31 pm]: wallet embargo, in my case wolfman9 [November 23, 2013 - 9:31 pm]: nice! wolfman9 [November 23, 2013 - 9:32 pm]: er, you know what i mean, ha! ArmunnRigh [November 23, 2013 - 9:33 pm]: I have to be content with cuban cigarillos a few times a year wolfman9 [November 23, 2013 - 9:33 pm]: that sounds like a nice treat ArmunnRigh [November 23, 2013 - 9:41 pm]: oh yeah Dustyash [November 23, 2013 - 9:41 pm]: The JFK movie by Oliver Stone is fun and entertaining to watch but it really goes no where but I still like it lots of good acting I suppose Dustyash [November 23, 2013 - 9:45 pm]: The Conehead picture makes me laugh Banazir Galbasi [November 23, 2013 - 9:45 pm]: Just like the daughter on Roseanne ArmunnRigh [November 23, 2013 - 9:45 pm]: who? Banazir Galbasi [November 23, 2013 - 9:45 pm]: Got replaced back and forth about 3 or four times Banazir Galbasi [November 23, 2013 - 9:46 pm]: Becky I think. wolfman9 [November 23, 2013 - 9:46 pm]: haha Dustyash [November 23, 2013 - 9:46 pm]: lol Banazir Galbasi [November 23, 2013 - 9:47 pm]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Roseanne_characters#Rebecca_.22Becky.22_Conner_Healy wolfman9 [November 23, 2013 - 9:49 pm]: Fecky Banazir Galbasi [November 23, 2013 - 9:50 pm]: I agree with this premise. They will promote real events if they further their agenda. Banazir Galbasi [November 23, 2013 - 9:50 pm]: Or at least promote fear. Dustyash [November 23, 2013 - 9:51 pm]: Bradford Daniels Looks like a bit of a conehead hilarious Ab's way of humor I like it lol Dustyash [November 23, 2013 - 9:52 pm]: I agree wolfman9 [November 23, 2013 - 9:59 pm]: Herstory farcevalue [November 23, 2013 - 10:01 pm]: This fits, because from what I understand, things got a lot worse for the rank and file in France right after this. farcevalue [November 23, 2013 - 10:02 pm]: Tale of Two Cities ArmunnRigh [November 23, 2013 - 10:05 pm]: @Blue Moon: I don't think they feel guilt at all. One of the greatest mistakes we are liable to make is to judge their emotional standpoint and their value system as if they were like us. ArmunnRigh [November 23, 2013 - 10:06 pm]: from their point of view, there is not guilt, it's their right ArmunnRigh [November 23, 2013 - 10:06 pm]: *no Dustyash [November 23, 2013 - 10:08 pm]: I agree Armunn,,,,: sociopath A person with antisocial personality disorder. Probably the most widely recognized personality disorder. A sociopath is often well liked because of their charm and high charisma, but they do not usually care about other people. They think mainly of themselves and often blame others for the things that they do. They have a complete disregard for rules and lie const Dustyash [November 23, 2013 - 10:09 pm]: constantly ArmunnRigh [November 23, 2013 - 10:09 pm]: that's right, dusty ArmunnRigh [November 23, 2013 - 10:10 pm]: They do predictive programming, in my view, not to put everybody at ease with what they want to do, but to make it happen. A story guides human behavior. Once a story is entered into the collective mind, they just need to put out the programmed patterns that will be recognized and the masses will behave as the story went. Dustyash [November 23, 2013 - 10:10 pm]: it is really really sad that these are the type people running the world of us slaves ab [November 23, 2013 - 10:13 pm]: http://fakeologist.com/2013/11/05/jfk-112263-50/ Banazir Galbasi [November 23, 2013 - 10:14 pm]: Ugh, Lawyers. farcevalue [November 23, 2013 - 10:15 pm]: Imagine if all the productive capacity of "education", propaganda, media manipulation, etc., was freed up to provide goods and services that had a positive impact. Yeah, and lawyers. Banazir Galbasi [November 23, 2013 - 10:16 pm]: Dinner Theatre. Banazir Galbasi [November 23, 2013 - 10:16 pm]: Or Breakfast Theatre in this case. ab [November 23, 2013 - 10:16 pm]: http://fakeologist.com/2013/11/05/jfk-112263-50/?replytocom=2282#respond Anders-Lindman [November 23, 2013 - 10:16 pm]: "All great truths begin as blasphemies." -- Annajanska (1919) :D wolfman9 [November 23, 2013 - 10:17 pm]: regicide- the murder of the 'king', is a practice that has been practiced in most cultures, throughout history. The village projects all it's sins and negative aspects of self on to the 'king', that is symbolically doing them wrong, the threat to the faith. That is how it would be done in the past, a cleansing sacrifice. Banazir Galbasi [November 23, 2013 - 10:17 pm]: Its called "VaNtage Point" wolfman9 [November 23, 2013 - 10:17 pm]: With JFK they did the opposite, whacking the so-called symbol of good and altruism, hope and the future ArmunnRigh [November 23, 2013 - 10:18 pm]: @wolfman9: curiously, in Portugal's case, it was the other way around - the people loved the king Dustyash [November 23, 2013 - 10:19 pm]: America is so evil ArmunnRigh [November 23, 2013 - 10:19 pm]: @Dustyash: that's the perception all right Anders-Lindman [November 23, 2013 - 10:20 pm]: The JFK assassination was fake! Perhaps a manually animated JFK dummy in the Zapruder film. Look at how lifeless JFK is in that video. Dustyash [November 23, 2013 - 10:20 pm]: well yeah you know the elite are so evil and America is the platform ArmunnRigh [November 23, 2013 - 10:21 pm]: @Dustyash: butyou see how perception works? Where do you point the finger at? ;) Dustyash [November 23, 2013 - 10:21 pm]: like the dummy in the video at LAX shooting Banazir Galbasi [November 23, 2013 - 10:21 pm]: Another JFK-ish movie: In thE LiNe of Fire. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_the_Line_of_Fire ArmunnRigh [November 23, 2013 - 10:22 pm]: @Anders-Lindman: Yes, it was fake. How it was done is debatable. Anders-Lindman [November 23, 2013 - 10:22 pm]: I haven't checked the LAX shooting. ArmunnRigh [November 23, 2013 - 10:23 pm]: @Anders-Lindman: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIC4x9POhjM Dustyash [November 23, 2013 - 10:24 pm]: LAX shooting is hilarious it is clearly a dummy sitting in the wheel chair wolfman9 [November 23, 2013 - 10:24 pm]: Kings have recognized the need to tear down the old order and symbolically make a sacrifice in their place or, an effigy, instead of them. The concept of 'scapegoat'. Anders-Lindman [November 23, 2013 - 10:24 pm]: @ArmunnRigh: thx, will check it out Dustyash [November 23, 2013 - 10:25 pm]: out with the old king in with the new king same as the old king ArmunnRigh [November 23, 2013 - 10:25 pm]: @wolfman9: true, but kings haven't always been the highest power of a nation wolfman9 [November 23, 2013 - 10:25 pm]: you're right. Anders-Lindman [November 23, 2013 - 10:26 pm]: JFK assassination = "David Copperfield" stage magician trick!!! wolfman9 [November 23, 2013 - 10:26 pm]: some 'communities' will practice similiar rituals, that don't have kings Dustyash [November 23, 2013 - 10:27 pm]: Dwight Eisenhower the 1961 speech very strange indeed ArmunnRigh [November 23, 2013 - 10:27 pm]: @wolfman9: what I meant was that even tribes who have kings may have other powers stronger than the king Dustyash [November 23, 2013 - 10:28 pm]: it was perfect timing Banazir Galbasi [November 23, 2013 - 10:28 pm]: Here is your 'dummy' http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/23/us/lax-shooting-autopsy/ wolfman9 [November 23, 2013 - 10:28 pm]: gotchya, armunn. thanks for clarifying Banazir Galbasi [November 23, 2013 - 10:30 pm]: Now that 50 years have passed are we gonna get some 'declassified' documents on JFK? Anders-Lindman [November 23, 2013 - 10:32 pm]: @Banazir Galbasi: Photoshopped image in the CNN article? Dustyash [November 23, 2013 - 10:32 pm]: good luck they should just come out and say "Ok folks the cat is out of the bag this was all fabricated it was all an act we are a bunch of real liars that had you all running in circles Banazir Galbasi [November 23, 2013 - 10:33 pm]: Yeah, I don't know. Another cone-head certainly. ArmunnRigh [November 23, 2013 - 10:33 pm]: @Dustyash: if they did come out and say that, the majority wouldn't believe Dustyash [November 23, 2013 - 10:33 pm]: yes a conehead lol Dustyash [November 23, 2013 - 10:34 pm]: Yeah because the majority is wrapped up in phony behaviour that they don't know if they are coming or going Dustyash [November 23, 2013 - 10:34 pm]: I would love it I would be dancing in the streets ArmunnRigh [November 23, 2013 - 10:35 pm]: @Dustyash: yeah, just think of this: if the catholic church came out and said "hey guys, sorry, Jesus never existed" - what do you think christians would do? How would they react? wolfman9 [November 23, 2013 - 10:36 pm]: Cornerstones of self identity, what are yours rooted in? ArmunnRigh [November 23, 2013 - 10:36 pm]: @wolfman9: exactly wolfman Dustyash [November 23, 2013 - 10:36 pm]: well I guess too bad for them Dustyash [November 23, 2013 - 10:37 pm]: that is all I have to say about them religion is such a problem we need to stop all Anders-Lindman [November 23, 2013 - 10:37 pm]: Check out Jackie's elbow positions in the Zapruder film at the moment of the head shot, how hard and rigid she's holding JFK (plastic dummy?) ArmunnRigh [November 23, 2013 - 10:38 pm]: @Dustyash: I think the same, but still the truth is "no man is an island" Dustyash [November 23, 2013 - 10:38 pm]: ummm okay not sure ummm Dustyash [November 23, 2013 - 10:39 pm]: The plastic dummy may have been heavy Dustyash [November 23, 2013 - 10:41 pm]: just like in the LAX shooting Anders-Lindman [November 23, 2013 - 10:42 pm]: @Dustyash: plastic mannequin operated with wires by someone in the large trunk of the limo perhaps Dustyash [November 23, 2013 - 10:42 pm]: lol Dustyash [November 23, 2013 - 10:42 pm]: yes Banazir Galbasi [November 23, 2013 - 10:43 pm]: Maybe the LAX dummy IS a big JFK reveal. The likes of which Peter Sheehan was hinting at... Dustyash [November 23, 2013 - 10:45 pm]: Jackie was holding a compressed air mini explosive by Kennedy's head filled with blood that was one person's observation? Anders-Lindman [November 23, 2013 - 10:45 pm]: Check out the two holes in the backseat of the JFK limo (attempted to be covered up with fake blood): http://ss100x.com/ce353a.jpg wolfman9 [November 23, 2013 - 10:46 pm]: yes, Dustyash. 'Special effects'? farcevalue [November 23, 2013 - 10:47 pm]: All politics is fundamentally adverse to the protection and support of individual liberty and exists by virtue of violating property rights. Anders-Lindman [November 23, 2013 - 10:50 pm]: Jackie supposedly sat in that blood in the backseat, yet her dress on the back was free from spots! Fakery! Anders-Lindman [November 23, 2013 - 10:52 pm]: http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/87/jfk13c.jpg Dustyash [November 23, 2013 - 10:53 pm]: it was a joke Just like Jim Fetzer's theories Anders-Lindman [November 23, 2013 - 10:54 pm]: Jim Fetzer = controlled opposition? Dustyash [November 23, 2013 - 10:55 pm]: Ace Baker Jim Fetzer Alex Jones please give them somewhere to go anyone else you can add to that list please do Banazir Galbasi [November 23, 2013 - 10:55 pm]: Its actually bloodier on her side than it is on JFK's. Dustyash [November 23, 2013 - 10:56 pm]: the magic blood theory MMM? Dustyash [November 23, 2013 - 10:56 pm]: lol Banazir Galbasi [November 23, 2013 - 10:56 pm]: Jim Fetzer = Fucking Asshole Anders-Lindman [November 23, 2013 - 10:56 pm]: Ace Baker is genuine I think. Check out 07 - The Key -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rml2TL5N8ds Dustyash [November 23, 2013 - 10:56 pm]: oh nooo wolfman9 [November 23, 2013 - 10:57 pm]: Ace Baker? He's legit? Banazir Galbasi [November 23, 2013 - 10:57 pm]: They've made a movie about ROb ForD: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUY6lDja-DE Dustyash [November 23, 2013 - 10:57 pm]: on noooo!!! Dustyash [November 23, 2013 - 10:57 pm]: oh noooo!! Anders-Lindman [November 23, 2013 - 10:58 pm]: Yes, Ace Baker i genuine about the no planes, but NOT about mini nukes! :-) ArmunnRigh [November 23, 2013 - 10:58 pm]: @Anders-Lindman: http://youtu.be/oK9876dk_zg Dustyash [November 23, 2013 - 10:58 pm]: Ace Baker please fake your suicide again and go away please!!! Anders-Lindman [November 23, 2013 - 11:00 pm]: It could be that Ace Baker ACTUALLY believes in mini nukes, or he could be kind of semi-controlled opposition, lol Dustyash [November 23, 2013 - 11:00 pm]: Ace Baker is a joke he is not serious Dustyash [November 23, 2013 - 11:01 pm]: just like Jim Fetzer Dustyash [November 23, 2013 - 11:01 pm]: they sleep with each other Anders-Lindman [November 23, 2013 - 11:01 pm]: @Dustyash: The Key video (part 7 in the American Psy-Opera) is excellent I think Dustyash [November 23, 2013 - 11:03 pm]: A song for Ace Baker Jim Fetzer this one is for them http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-CDzDpSdzY Banazir Galbasi [November 23, 2013 - 11:04 pm]: Ace Baker is genuine Banazir Galbasi [November 23, 2013 - 11:04 pm]: -ly a fraud. Dustyash [November 23, 2013 - 11:04 pm]: big time Banazir Galbasi [November 23, 2013 - 11:10 pm]: I think they just Let China off the hook for having only one child per family. Anders-Lindman [November 23, 2013 - 11:11 pm]: Steven Jones and Judy Wood are controlled opposition I think Dustyash [November 23, 2013 - 11:12 pm]: they all are they all are!!! Banazir Galbasi [November 23, 2013 - 11:12 pm]: Yes. Yes they are. Dustyash [November 23, 2013 - 11:14 pm]: there is so much deception out there this is only site I can really trust however there is some other sites like this one but I like fakeologist Anders-Lindman [November 23, 2013 - 11:14 pm]: The thermite evidence is true and the small debris pile at ground zero, but they don't tell the whole truth! :( Dustyash [November 23, 2013 - 11:14 pm]: no Dustyash [November 23, 2013 - 11:15 pm]: right Bootleg_Bill [November 23, 2013 - 11:15 pm]: http://www.america2050.org Banazir Galbasi [November 23, 2013 - 11:15 pm]: We have no real evidence of ground zero so... ab [November 23, 2013 - 11:17 pm]: http://fakeologist.com/2013/11/22/jfks-secret-society/ Anders-Lindman [November 23, 2013 - 11:17 pm]: @Banazir Galbasi: I think the thermite evidence is true. Steven Jones even published a paper about it iirc. BUT Steven Jones is probably controlled opposition because it seems that he deliberately has made it "debunkable" Banazir Galbasi [November 23, 2013 - 11:18 pm]: He was on TV so instantly questionable. Dustyash [November 23, 2013 - 11:19 pm]: It is another Richard Gage beware of these people it is too bad they are like vulchers wish they would go away they are in the way of the truth!! Anders-Lindman [November 23, 2013 - 11:24 pm]: Alex Jones is great although he is probably controlled opposition, OR controlled-controlled opposition, lol :D (like a double agent) Bootleg_Bill [November 23, 2013 - 11:25 pm]: aj is a puppet wolfman9 [November 23, 2013 - 11:27 pm]: I think they use earpieces a lot, when not reading a prompter Dustyash [November 23, 2013 - 11:28 pm]: he had me fooled for awhile what a real Ahole that is special just for Alex Jones what a jerk he needs to stop talking Anders-Lindman [November 23, 2013 - 11:30 pm]: JFK was playing a role, an actor as the guest says. Or he was mind controlled. My guess is that JFK made all the big no-nos possible, like wanting to end the CIA, the Federal Reserve, cooperate with the Soviet Union, mess with the oil industry etc etc, and then he was fake-sacrificed! To scare even people in position of power to keep them in line. Dustyash [November 23, 2013 - 11:30 pm]: Alex Jones Looks like a bit of a conehead he is a conehead!! Banazir Galbasi [November 23, 2013 - 11:30 pm]: We all know that JFK himself is the real shooter. He simply travelled back in time from the future, perch himself on the grassy knoll and shoot his past self sitting in the limousine. From Red Dwarf: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEwcTBnrD6k :P Dustyash [November 23, 2013 - 11:31 pm]: I can agree with that sure Dustyash [November 23, 2013 - 11:32 pm]: Anders-Lindman I can agree with your last comment yes Dustyash [November 23, 2013 - 11:34 pm]: JFK MLK LBJ Anders-Lindman [November 23, 2013 - 11:36 pm]: The moon program was a smokescreen for the (then secret) NRO. They wanted to become dominant in space with military satellites. To get even the hippies to agree with a massive space budget they set up the phony moon mission program. Dustyash [November 23, 2013 - 11:36 pm]: Stanley Kulbrick productions Banazir Galbasi [November 23, 2013 - 11:38 pm]: Anders-Lindman you seem to be at odds with just about every idea carried by this site. Is there anything here you agree with? Anders-Lindman [November 23, 2013 - 11:40 pm]: @Banazir Galbasi: I agree with most on fakeologist.com! Such as the massive fakery that has been going on with 9/11, atom bombs etc Anders-Lindman [November 23, 2013 - 11:41 pm]: The Dr. Strangelove movie was a massive propaganda hit piece by Kubrick, to make people believe atom bombs are real. khammad [November 23, 2013 - 11:48 pm]: Yes, 1984 is predictive programming khammad [November 23, 2013 - 11:50 pm]: I have been thinking about this for a while now, how 1984 is referenced sooo often by alternative media. Anders-Lindman [November 23, 2013 - 11:50 pm]: Freemason ritual on the "moon" (Hollywood studio :D): http://i393.photobucket.com/albums/pp14/Inverted_Heptagram_Star/BuzzMasonMoon.jpg Banazir Galbasi [November 23, 2013 - 11:51 pm]: What is the significance of the number 1984? Did anything even happen in particular that year? Besides Van Halen's 'Jump'? Anders-Lindman [November 23, 2013 - 11:54 pm]: @Banazir Galbasi: 1+8+4 = 13 -> 1984 = 13 and 9, heavily occult numbers. Just kidding! I don't know anything about numerology Dustyash [November 23, 2013 - 11:57 pm]: 1+9+8+4 = 22 = 11+11= 22 = Nov 11th month 22, 1963 ? Dustyash [November 24, 2013 - 12:00 am]: pretty cold there Ab come to Vancouver it is much warmer Dustyash [November 24, 2013 - 12:00 am]: comfortable Dustyash [November 24, 2013 - 12:01 am]: We need to do A RAW next weekend it is well over due bring the team together and do a hudle Dustyash [November 24, 2013 - 12:02 am]: huddle Banazir Galbasi [November 24, 2013 - 12:03 am]: if you believe they put a man on the moon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hKSYgOGtos Banazir Galbasi [November 24, 2013 - 12:04 am]: its wish you were here Dustyash [November 24, 2013 - 12:05 am]: lol Dustyash [November 24, 2013 - 12:06 am]: bye bye guests Dustyash [November 24, 2013 - 12:06 am]: I love the Crime of the Century Banazir Galbasi [November 24, 2013 - 12:07 am]: You love 9/11? ab [November 24, 2013 - 12:07 am]: Yes we will try and do a raw soon. Thanks all and have a good morning Dustyash [November 24, 2013 - 12:07 am]: it is a real Tradition Ab thanks for keeping you show alive Dustyash [November 24, 2013 - 12:07 am]: your show ArmunnRigh [November 24, 2013 - 12:07 am]: see ya ab ab [November 24, 2013 - 12:07 am]: np thanks to all the listenership Dustyash [November 24, 2013 - 12:08 am]: thank you Dustyash [November 24, 2013 - 12:08 am]: always Dustyash [November 24, 2013 - 12:08 am]: alwys a pleasurre Bootleg_Bill [November 24, 2013 - 12:08 am]: right on Ab. Thanks. Blue Moon [November 24, 2013 - 12:09 am]: Great fun! ab [November 24, 2013 - 12:10 am]: @Blue Moon: Thanks great insight. It's the only kind of JFK discussion that I think matters. ArmunnRigh [November 24, 2013 - 12:11 am]: @Blue Moon: sure was, man - you brought up great points and it shows you're a very aware man Dustyash [November 24, 2013 - 12:11 am]: I couldn't agree more cheers Blue Moon [November 24, 2013 - 12:13 am]: Fakeology has legs- Let's keep running- Bye ArmunnRigh [November 24, 2013 - 12:21 am]: see ya guys! khammad [November 24, 2013 - 12:21 am]: Listening to blue moon after fetzer really emphasizes how controlled fetzer really is khammad [November 24, 2013 - 12:21 am]: Awesome show, Tim Anders-Lindman [November 24, 2013 - 1:10 am]: Unless Ace Baker has faked this info, he actually put a smoking gun in part 6 of The Great American Psy-Opera (from about 16 minutes into the video): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJU55FzcM2A&t=16m9s ab [November 24, 2013 - 9:49 am]: @Anders-Lindman: Simon and I deconstructed the Ace Baker entity last week. listen in and learn what he's about ab [November 24, 2013 - 9:49 am]: @khammad: thanks. At least we can put the disinfo in perspective