wanda [November 30, 2013 - 10:21 pm]: one a penny... two a penny. That has to do with the southern cross in the sky... it's astrotheology.
Tom-Dalpra [November 30, 2013 - 10:21 pm]: die t - that is a bit worrying...is that a deliberate?
wolfman9 [November 30, 2013 - 10:22 pm]: that's the way I wrote it. that's the way it is written
wanda [November 30, 2013 - 10:24 pm]: I think so Tom... i think it is worrying and deliberate. They are poisoning our food and water... air, ears and eyes... are they not? And like DIEt - dieT... up is down... left is right... the devil is evil with a D... God is good with an extra O... and so we go.
Anders-Lindman [November 30, 2013 - 10:24 pm]: try the two melons a day diet
wanda [November 30, 2013 - 10:24 pm]: ouch... like birthing twins.
wanda [November 30, 2013 - 10:25 pm]: lol
wolfman9 [November 30, 2013 - 10:25 pm]: we are omnivores. If you have a specialized diet, it is because you have chosen it, period. I think, like our sexual nature-omni. If one is vegetarian, it is like being into a particular food fetish, imo
wanda [November 30, 2013 - 10:25 pm]: that was twisted... sorry.
Tom-Dalpra [November 30, 2013 - 10:25 pm]: lemon entry
wanda [November 30, 2013 - 10:26 pm]: i am allergic to wheat... seriously, wheat is threatening to take me out.
Tom-Dalpra [November 30, 2013 - 10:26 pm]: that's teisted
Tom-Dalpra [November 30, 2013 - 10:26 pm]: or your bowel is
Tom-Dalpra [November 30, 2013 - 10:26 pm]: twisted
Anders-Lindman [November 30, 2013 - 10:26 pm]: I love fruits
wolfman9 [November 30, 2013 - 10:26 pm]: listen to your body, it knows
wanda [November 30, 2013 - 10:27 pm]: Got that... no, not my bowel, that is already healed... it is the wheat that is doing it... and that is a relatively new development...
Tom-Dalpra [November 30, 2013 - 10:27 pm]: listen to your bowels
ArmunnRigh [November 30, 2013 - 10:27 pm]: *FART*
Anders-Lindman [November 30, 2013 - 10:28 pm]: gas-tronomy indeed
Tom-Dalpra [November 30, 2013 - 10:29 pm]: lot of bullshit movements like cholestorol - that's a classic con isn't it?
ArmunnRigh [November 30, 2013 - 10:29 pm]: oh yeah
wanda [November 30, 2013 - 10:29 pm]: Wheat has almost killed me twice. It is not my bowels... repeat... it is not my bowels. The wheat jacked that up, but i am into holistic healing... i have already healed a laundry list of things wheat has jacked up on me... my bowels for one... but if i ate wheat tomorrow, it would likely kill me. Maybe in a year from now, i can attempt wheat again... i do know what is happening and i do listen
ArmunnRigh [November 30, 2013 - 10:30 pm]: @Tom-Dalpra: Portugal and England would be depopulated if cholesterol really killed like they say.
ab [November 30, 2013 - 10:30 pm]: @wanda: listen to wheat belly doctor - the wheat has been changed since the 80s
wanda [November 30, 2013 - 10:31 pm]: Yeah i know Ab... the wheat has be hybridized to toxic strains... lots of children not living normal lives... it is very evil.
wanda [November 30, 2013 - 10:34 pm]: It is a very painful disorder... it has almost killed me twice in the past three weeks. Two different ways. One by not being able to breathe, the other by the eczema threatening blood poisoning... and i have never had a rash in my life, never even got poison ivy prior to the wheat allergy.
wanda [November 30, 2013 - 10:35 pm]: Turpentine... labeled a deadly poison by the FDA... saved me both times.
Anders-Lindman [November 30, 2013 - 10:35 pm]: the "planes" hit the WTC towers from opposite directions and that's why not so many people were firsthand witnesses: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d5/World_Trade_Center_9-11_Attacks_Illustration_with_Bird%27s-eye_Impact_Locations.svg/220px-World_Trade_Center_9-11_Attacks_Illustration_with_Bird%27s-eye_Impact_Locations.svg.png
wanda [November 30, 2013 - 10:36 pm]: Oh... that's interesting Anderson.
wolfman9 [November 30, 2013 - 10:38 pm]: Yes, I would like to know more. Why did that confuse them? Were there not tons of people looking at the towers from all directions?
Anders-Lindman [November 30, 2013 - 10:38 pm]: the debunker on the other show started talking about how many people live in NYC
Anders-Lindman [November 30, 2013 - 10:40 pm]: people who stood near were intensely focused on the first tower with the first impact
wanda [November 30, 2013 - 10:41 pm]: Well said Ab.... except look at who congress, for example. Which of our congress people are working to disarm American... answer: 100% jewish congress people... proof? Here you go: http://thezog.wordpress.com/who-is-behind-gun-control/
wanda [November 30, 2013 - 10:42 pm]: It is the jews.
wanda [November 30, 2013 - 10:43 pm]: yes
wanda [November 30, 2013 - 10:44 pm]: The priesthood was the first profession... I PROFESS... the whores and prostitutes followed.
wolfman9 [November 30, 2013 - 10:44 pm]: scapegoats?
wanda [November 30, 2013 - 10:44 pm]: willing scapegoats.
wanda [November 30, 2013 - 10:45 pm]: hand in glove.
Jan Erik Hansen [November 30, 2013 - 10:45 pm]: There is a problem with your conclusion the word JEW is a 16 century invented word !
wolfman9 [November 30, 2013 - 10:46 pm]: can you point to just one? it's like pringles, 'once you pop, you can't stop'
wanda [November 30, 2013 - 10:46 pm]: The letters J and Z were not inserted into the English alphabet until the mid 15th century.
wanda [November 30, 2013 - 10:46 pm]: you can put that into any search engine... it is fact... the letters J and Z
Anders-Lindman [November 30, 2013 - 10:46 pm]: Alex Jones' wife is Jew, and she is definitely his "handler"!!! Well maybe not, but anyway.
wolfman9 [November 30, 2013 - 10:47 pm]: The prophecy fullfilment gang
Jan Erik Hansen [November 30, 2013 - 10:47 pm]: The so caled JEW was and is the yahudi. Witch thy are known as stil in Farsi
wanda [November 30, 2013 - 10:47 pm]: Look at the letter J... it has a hook in it. Draw the letter Z... then draw an N over it... ooh... what's that?
Tom-Dalpra [November 30, 2013 - 10:49 pm]: a vagina?
Tom-Dalpra [November 30, 2013 - 10:49 pm]: sorry
wanda [November 30, 2013 - 10:49 pm]: It is possible to read hebrew without vowels... vowels are throw away letters. SO... in that respect... NASA, NAZI and NSA... all mean the same thing.
Tom-Dalpra [November 30, 2013 - 10:49 pm]: mmm
Anders-Lindman [November 30, 2013 - 10:50 pm]: The relationship between Christianity and Judaism is curious. The Pope sometimes wears a Jewish cap.
wanda [November 30, 2013 - 10:51 pm]: Anders... absolutely. Christianity/Islam/Judaism all worship/war-ship the same God... the god of abraham. Christianity and Islam are spin-offs of Judaism, since Judaism came first.
Anders-Lindman [November 30, 2013 - 10:52 pm]: @wanda: and the Vatican created Islam as controlled opposition!
wanda [November 30, 2013 - 10:52 pm]: Something like that.
wolfman9 [November 30, 2013 - 10:53 pm]: Comet Ison=Sion=Hoax, no? Has any1 seen the comet?
wanda [November 30, 2013 - 10:53 pm]: All governments are the same religion... they are all two arms of the same beast. I say that without reservation.
wanda [November 30, 2013 - 10:54 pm]: Comet Sion/Iaon/Zion... good work... it's spell craft.
wanda [November 30, 2013 - 10:54 pm]: Sion/Ison/Zion... sorry bout that.
wanda [November 30, 2013 - 10:54 pm]: S=Z
Anders-Lindman [November 30, 2013 - 10:55 pm]: Protestantism is another controlled opposition created by the Vatican. Why else would the Pope let Martin Luther go without burning him at the stake like they did with others who did similar things?
wanda [November 30, 2013 - 10:55 pm]: S= Serpent, kundalini energy... Z= Zion... they are, you will notice, replacing the letter S with a Z in many words.. organise, for one...
wolfman9 [November 30, 2013 - 10:56 pm]: yez
wanda [November 30, 2013 - 10:56 pm]: know your rightz
wanda [November 30, 2013 - 10:56 pm]: fat load of good that'll do you.
wanda [November 30, 2013 - 10:59 pm]: Caesar = Seize -er. Seize Him !!
wolfman9 [November 30, 2013 - 11:00 pm]: Zword
Jan Erik Hansen [November 30, 2013 - 11:01 pm]: http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0801854377/ref=sib_dp_pt/183-2484420-0673032#reader-link
Dustyash [November 30, 2013 - 11:04 pm]: Sad but true or just happened???.............http://www.tmz.com/2013/11/30/paul-walker-dead-dies-car-accident-fatal-fire-crash/
Anders-Lindman [November 30, 2013 - 11:04 pm]: I came to think about a new speculation: that Jews created Christianity, and the Jews in turn created by the "Illuminati" in Ancient Egypt!
columjaddica [November 30, 2013 - 11:04 pm]: Haha on a 00000000 nuclear launch code on Drudge. Where do they come up with this stuff?
Dustyash [November 30, 2013 - 11:05 pm]: Paul Walker is Dead at 40
Dustyash [November 30, 2013 - 11:05 pm]: sad if it is true I have no reason to think it is not true at this point
Anders-Lindman [November 30, 2013 - 11:05 pm]: London Olympics Zion logo: http://www.lawfulrebellion.org/wp-content/uploads/zion2012.jpg
wolfman9 [November 30, 2013 - 11:07 pm]: Mt. Zion I, chant down Babylon!
wanda [November 30, 2013 - 11:07 pm]: Look... in our lives, we do know of people who have died in car crashes... they are relatively few... the ration of how often it happens in Holy Wood is beyond the pale... literally. It has to be fiction.
Anders-Lindman [November 30, 2013 - 11:09 pm]: Here is a bit more far-fetched Zion logo (Beijing Olympics): http://leaksource.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/2008-olympic-logo-zion1.jpg
Jan Erik Hansen [November 30, 2013 - 11:10 pm]: http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriziato_(Venezia)
wolfman9 [November 30, 2013 - 11:10 pm]: RAstar Fareye and I
wanda [November 30, 2013 - 11:11 pm]: That one is particularly nasty... looking at the red with white letters on the bottom line... it is nots... backwards... it can be read as Not Z
ArmunnRigh [November 30, 2013 - 11:11 pm]: @Jan Erik Hansen: Doesn't Venezia come from Phoenicia? ;)
wanda [November 30, 2013 - 11:11 pm]: Yes... it does.
Jan Erik Hansen [November 30, 2013 - 11:14 pm]: http://translate.google.no/translate?hl=no&sl=it&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fit.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FPatriziato_%28Venezia%29
wanda [November 30, 2013 - 11:14 pm]: S = Z and you have the N and the Z... draw a Z... draw an N over it and you have the swastica... further... the sun rises in the east and sets in the west. Swastica oriented with the points heading east are what aborigines practice... when you see the points going east... they are anti nature... they are NAZI.
Jan Erik Hansen [November 30, 2013 - 11:15 pm]: http://one-evil.org/content/entities_locations_venice.html
Anders-Lindman [November 30, 2013 - 11:15 pm]: Rome -> Venice -> London -> Washington D.C. ?
Dustyash [November 30, 2013 - 11:16 pm]: I really liked Paul Walker in Joy Ride real or not I will miss his presence
ArmunnRigh [November 30, 2013 - 11:16 pm]: @wanda: NAZI is probably related more to Ashkhenasi and National Zionism
Jan Erik Hansen [November 30, 2013 - 11:16 pm]: YES !
wanda [November 30, 2013 - 11:16 pm]: Don't trust one-evil... they are leading you down a garden path... i am familiar with that site... they are big into coding EVERYTHING... Beware... Be Aware.
Anders-Lindman [November 30, 2013 - 11:16 pm]: NaZION!
Jan Erik Hansen [November 30, 2013 - 11:16 pm]: :)
Jan Erik Hansen [November 30, 2013 - 11:17 pm]: http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0801854377/ref=sib_dp_pt/183-2484420-0673032#reader-link
wanda [November 30, 2013 - 11:17 pm]: Connect all dots... that's all i'm saying.
wolfman9 [November 30, 2013 - 11:18 pm]: spend long enough in the rabbit hole, they start setting up furniture for you
Anders-Lindman [November 30, 2013 - 11:18 pm]: Webster Tarpley - The Venetian Conspiracy -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFeSm5x4W4o
wanda [November 30, 2013 - 11:22 pm]: They set up the furniture before you're even born... you hear things and formulate an idea of the environment you are being born into while in the womb... and develop your personality and ideas on how you're going to hit this world, i think. You start out trying to work with the furniture you're given to work with... if you can work with the tools they give you... you're a good slave... if yo
wanda [November 30, 2013 - 11:23 pm]: Tarpley is making a career of conspiracy... what real merit is there in following his work?
Anders-Lindman [November 30, 2013 - 11:25 pm]: Tarpley could be controlled opposition, but I take in information for all kinds of sources including Tarpley and Alex Jones etc. Some sources may even be controlled-controlled opposition! Double-agent stuff.
Anders-Lindman [November 30, 2013 - 11:25 pm]: *from
wolfman9 [November 30, 2013 - 11:26 pm]: Have any of you guys see this rebuttal of Markus' flight 175 claims? I agree that it looks fake as hell, there should be a huge 'shockwave' going down the building. Markus appears to be wrong about the positioning of the buildings, in the herxerkami video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wchq9qgEV9c
Anders-Lindman [November 30, 2013 - 11:28 pm]: @wolfman9: Hmm... Good point about a shockwave. The towers swayed several yards back and forth in strong wind.
wolfman9 [November 30, 2013 - 11:28 pm]: good point
ArmunnRigh [November 30, 2013 - 11:29 pm]: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvTNyKIGXiI
ab [November 30, 2013 - 11:32 pm]: http://www.econ.tcu.edu/Quinn/finhist/Fall06finhist.htm
wanda [November 30, 2013 - 11:33 pm]: Webster Tarpley/Alex Jones/Max Kaiser/David Icke, et al = CNBC/MSNBc/CBS/CNN, et al.
Anders-Lindman [November 30, 2013 - 11:34 pm]: The devil faces in the WTC collapses look suspicious: http://www.greatdreams.com/wtcfaces.jpg
Anders-Lindman [November 30, 2013 - 11:36 pm]: I think the videos and photos of the WTC collapses were real but "enhanced" with extra smoke and dust and stuff.
wolfman9 [November 30, 2013 - 11:36 pm]: One time Markus was trying to recall his youtube channel off the top of his head, he could not remember. Magically it appeared in the chatroom, and several moments later he was like, 'uh, I think it is 'blah' and he couldn't remember, when it was clearly posted in the chat. 'Markus' is definitely a 'team'
wolfman9 [November 30, 2013 - 11:36 pm]: On hoaxbusters i believe
wolfman9 [November 30, 2013 - 11:38 pm]: I like to call Markus, 'Ron Burgundy' because he goes overboard with the N.L.P. tactic of 'anchoring', anchorman
Jan Erik Hansen [November 30, 2013 - 11:38 pm]: http://one-heaven.org/canons/sovereign_law/article/153.html
wolfman9 [November 30, 2013 - 11:41 pm]: simonshack > all these dudes we are listening to, imo
wanda [November 30, 2013 - 11:41 pm]: Agreed Wolfman.
wanda [November 30, 2013 - 11:43 pm]: right... who knows if these things, like nuclear bombs, like the moon missions, like all of it.. does it even exist?
wanda [November 30, 2013 - 11:43 pm]: When an illusion will do the same thing?
wanda [November 30, 2013 - 11:44 pm]: Right Ab
wanda [November 30, 2013 - 11:44 pm]: It's a punch in the face.
wanda [November 30, 2013 - 11:45 pm]: Well... except, on a macro level... it is the jews. They are tightly knit... they work together, separating us.
Anders-Lindman [November 30, 2013 - 11:45 pm]: An obelisk is a pyramid on top of another pyramid (the pillar is the shape of a long pyramid).
wanda [November 30, 2013 - 11:45 pm]: Very effectively, apparently.
wanda [November 30, 2013 - 11:46 pm]: An obelisk is a penis.
wanda [November 30, 2013 - 11:47 pm]: Look at the Moron Tabersnatchel Temple...
Anders-Lindman [November 30, 2013 - 11:47 pm]: An obelisk is not necessarily a phallic symbol. It could be a symbol for a hidden-in-plain-sight power base behind a public power front.
wanda [November 30, 2013 - 11:47 pm]: Not necessarily... you say potato...
Anders-Lindman [November 30, 2013 - 11:47 pm]: Well, the phallic symbolism is the official story, so...
wanda [November 30, 2013 - 11:49 pm]: Christ... technically and officially? What came first... the concept of the penis or the pyramid?
wanda [November 30, 2013 - 11:50 pm]: A: i'll take the penis for $5,000 Bob.
ArmunnRigh [November 30, 2013 - 11:50 pm]: expensive, better be really good Wanda!
ArmunnRigh [November 30, 2013 - 11:50 pm]: :D
Anders-Lindman [November 30, 2013 - 11:50 pm]: There are obelisk erected (no pun intended) in a lot of cities around the world. I think it's a power symbol. Power is not only a male thing.
wanda [November 30, 2013 - 11:51 pm]: It's a monumental erection... pun intended. That's the gig... that's the game... it's primal. That is to say - it is stolen from the primal... that is all it is and ever was.
wanda [November 30, 2013 - 11:52 pm]: You can try to make more of it... and that is the Never Ending Story... but that is all that is.
wanda [November 30, 2013 - 11:53 pm]: Smoke and mirrors.
wanda [November 30, 2013 - 11:53 pm]: Poof.
Anders-Lindman [November 30, 2013 - 11:54 pm]: Yeah, symbolism is very speculative. Yet it's curious how much effort they have put into erecting obelisks. Massive effort moving a real obelisk to London, to the Vatican and a big one built in Washington D.C.
wanda [November 30, 2013 - 11:56 pm]: That's right... it's a giant mind fuck. !!!!!! = eyes upside down... i'ze upside down. Spell craft. They know it... they use it.
farcevalue [November 30, 2013 - 11:57 pm]: Anyone here ever spend time in Miami?
wolfman9 [November 30, 2013 - 11:57 pm]: speak and spell
wanda [November 30, 2013 - 11:57 pm]: I've spent time in heaven.
wolfman9 [November 30, 2013 - 11:57 pm]: I've been to Miami a couple of times
wanda [November 30, 2013 - 11:58 pm]: me too... when very much younger... it was fun and nice.
wanda [November 30, 2013 - 11:58 pm]: The pool is the feminine.
wolfman9 [November 30, 2013 - 11:58 pm]: yes, nice, hot
wanda [November 30, 2013 - 11:59 pm]: The feminine is emotion.
wanda [November 30, 2013 - 11:59 pm]: the waters.
wolfman9 [November 30, 2013 - 11:59 pm]: beach
farcevalue [November 30, 2013 - 11:59 pm]: There are a lot of people here dressed in black and white with big black hats and strings on their belts who don't know jack about 911.
wolfman9 [November 30, 2013 - 11:59 pm]: tell them!
wolfman9 [December 1, 2013 - 12:00 am]: telepathically, don't make an ass of yourself
farcevalue [December 1, 2013 - 12:00 am]: Tell them it was all them and they didn't know it?
wolfman9 [December 1, 2013 - 12:01 am]: that's not what i meant
farcevalue [December 1, 2013 - 12:01 am]: I know :)
wolfman9 [December 1, 2013 - 12:02 am]: cheers, farce! I appreciate your comments on Cluesforum :D
wanda [December 1, 2013 - 12:02 am]: Frankly Farce... 9-11 is just a hint at the bigger of our problems... 9-11, in my opinion, is no larger than Bolshevik Russion, NAZI Germany, Palestine or... pick a card, any card... so, 9-11 as a focal point... ? you lose me there. Why should 9-11 be larger than... say, the clubbing of baby seals?
farcevalue [December 1, 2013 - 12:03 am]: Point is, it's a very wide net. I don't want to be blamed for the slaves who were on plantations, same logic.
wanda [December 1, 2013 - 12:03 am]: Because... America? Well, that's bullshit. Because... why exactly?
Anders-Lindman [December 1, 2013 - 12:03 am]: Vatican obelisk; is this a Christian symbol?!!! http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/STP_SQUARE.gif
wolfman9 [December 1, 2013 - 12:04 am]: keep going, so many stopping points that people would like us to stop at
wanda [December 1, 2013 - 12:05 am]: And Christian is a spin-off of Judaism... back to square one... because the jews stole it all from the pagans.
farcevalue [December 1, 2013 - 12:06 am]: 9/11 just allowed me the opportunity to have certainty about the artificial web of reality they are trying to spin around us.
Anders-Lindman [December 1, 2013 - 12:07 am]: Rothschild obelisk at the Israel Supreme Court: http://i1.wp.com/vigilantcitizen.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/2501222670060504400TIrrVF_fs.jpg
wanda [December 1, 2013 - 12:08 am]: Well okay Farce... it was an important jumping off point. But, that is all it is because there are people out there who found their jumping off point long before then... i am not one of those, but history shows, they were there.
wanda [December 1, 2013 - 12:09 am]: If you were not in America... you might have had an earlier and equally difficult jump point.
wanda [December 1, 2013 - 12:10 am]: For instance, you might be Palestinian.
farcevalue [December 1, 2013 - 12:10 am]: @Wanda: Of course. I bought the whole 9/11 story hook, line and sinker for years. I have a friend whose experience in the military made him skeptical from the beginning because he saw what bullshit the military was.
farcevalue [December 1, 2013 - 12:12 am]: Some have the military mindset solidified forever by the experience, though.
wanda [December 1, 2013 - 12:12 am]: Yeah... sadly. But that is our job, perhaps.
Anders-Lindman [December 1, 2013 - 12:15 am]: WASHINGTON — A New York congresswoman who represents Manhattan wants answers to why nearly 3,000 victims of the 9/11 terrorists attacks weren’t reported in the Social Security Administration’s official list of deceased Americans. -- http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2011/jul/09/Social-Security-Administration-grave-mistakes-911/
farcevalue [December 1, 2013 - 12:17 am]: Is it possible that any member of Congress is unaware of the hoax? Seems impossible.
ab [December 1, 2013 - 12:18 am]: @farcevalue: call in if you would like
wanda [December 1, 2013 - 12:21 am]: Great link... Farce, unlikely, to me.
Bootleg_Bill [December 1, 2013 - 12:25 am]: yes jan. emotional anchor.
Bootleg_Bill [December 1, 2013 - 12:25 am]: great term
Bootleg_Bill [December 1, 2013 - 12:32 am]: http://news.discovery.com/tech/gear-and-gadgets/smart-wig-navigates-by-gps-monitors-brainwaves-131128.htm
Bootleg_Bill [December 1, 2013 - 12:34 am]: quote of the night. "they're lying in plain sight"
Anders-Lindman [December 1, 2013 - 12:35 am]: yes I agree ab (ab is the host, right?), they probably make sure they operate within legal limits as much as possible
ArmunnRigh [December 1, 2013 - 12:35 am]: yes, ab's the host
Bootleg_Bill [December 1, 2013 - 12:35 am]: yes. "they" keep it all "legal"
Bootleg_Bill [December 1, 2013 - 12:37 am]: think tanks. if you had all the money and resources in the world. you would also have access to the smartest minds. put those minds together in a shady context...those are think tanks.
Anders-Lindman [December 1, 2013 - 12:39 am]: legal system always follow the golden rule: "Those who own the gold make the rules." :D
Anders-Lindman [December 1, 2013 - 12:39 am]: *systems
Bootleg_Bill [December 1, 2013 - 12:39 am]: 9/elve. was written in the his-story books decades before it was told.
wanda [December 1, 2013 - 12:42 am]: Bootleg... you are closer to the mark than you know. What did i hear earlier...off an impromptu podcast i was listening to on Mami's... toll bridge, troll bridge... it's just one letter away...
Videre Licet [December 1, 2013 - 12:43 am]: Good evening everyone! Ab.. You are becoming very popular! Look at all your new friends!
Bootleg_Bill [December 1, 2013 - 12:43 am]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance
ab [December 1, 2013 - 12:43 am]: @Videre Licet: yes will you call in?
ArmunnRigh [December 1, 2013 - 12:43 am]: Videre!
ArmunnRigh [December 1, 2013 - 12:43 am]: You went silent
Videre Licet [December 1, 2013 - 12:44 am]: I just arrived.
Videre Licet [December 1, 2013 - 12:44 am]: busy week
ArmunnRigh [December 1, 2013 - 12:45 am]: no probs, Videre, just wondering
wolfman9 [December 1, 2013 - 12:45 am]: collapse the false cave of fear and hope
wanda [December 1, 2013 - 12:45 am]: fear is not a false cave... fear keeps us alive.
Jan Erik Hansen [December 1, 2013 - 12:46 am]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Treason
wanda [December 1, 2013 - 12:47 am]: Fear is an emotion... hope is... i don't know what hope is, but it is not from nature.
Bootleg_Bill [December 1, 2013 - 12:50 am]: sit down. shut up. and repeat after me. the school system creed. bullshit.
Videre Licet [December 1, 2013 - 12:51 am]: BLB - no BS with you...
Bootleg_Bill [December 1, 2013 - 12:51 am]: .
Videre Licet [December 1, 2013 - 12:53 am]: job security
Bootleg_Bill [December 1, 2013 - 12:53 am]: helps
Videre Licet [December 1, 2013 - 12:54 am]: (what are you eating ab... sounds good)
ArmunnRigh [December 1, 2013 - 12:54 am]: fish n' chips :D
wanda [December 1, 2013 - 12:55 am]: whatever it is, it's frangible.
Videre Licet [December 1, 2013 - 12:55 am]: yum... had lobster, salmon and chicken tonight
wanda [December 1, 2013 - 12:55 am]: really... no blood pudding?
Videre Licet [December 1, 2013 - 12:56 am]: @wanda: doesn't sound appetizing
Videre Licet [December 1, 2013 - 12:56 am]: non-thinking cogs
wanda [December 1, 2013 - 12:57 am]: You are eating life... life that didn't choose to die, in fact didn't want to die to go into your stomach, and you are reveling in it... and i don't find that appetizing.
Videre Licet [December 1, 2013 - 12:57 am]: I think they are just asleep not psychopaths
wanda [December 1, 2013 - 12:57 am]: Yeah, okay one eye.
ArmunnRigh [December 1, 2013 - 12:58 am]: @wanda: no life chooses to die - all life fights for survival
wanda [December 1, 2013 - 12:59 am]: Armunn... do you think that is a news flash for me?
wanda [December 1, 2013 - 12:59 am]: I think they are psychopaths pretending to be asleep.
ArmunnRigh [December 1, 2013 - 1:00 am]: I thought we were talking lobsters :D
wanda [December 1, 2013 - 1:00 am]: Don't insult lobsters.
Videre Licet [December 1, 2013 - 1:00 am]: I believe psychopaths are not common in a society... alas... the lack of shooters/killers etc.
Videre Licet [December 1, 2013 - 1:01 am]: A lot fewer that we have been led to believe exist.
wanda [December 1, 2013 - 1:01 am]: Well... there is a LIE in belief. There is a psychopathy in in-breeding.
ArmunnRigh [December 1, 2013 - 1:02 am]: @wanda: I was commenting on this "You are eating life... life that didn't choose to die, in fact didn't want to die to go into your stomach, and you are reveling in it... and i don't find that appetizing."
Videre Licet [December 1, 2013 - 1:02 am]: Do you speak from experience?
wanda [December 1, 2013 - 1:02 am]: Yep...
wanda [December 1, 2013 - 1:03 am]: Appetising.
wanda [December 1, 2013 - 1:04 am]: Okay... appetizing.
wanda [December 1, 2013 - 1:04 am]: Yes... i do speak from experience.
farcevalue [December 1, 2013 - 1:08 am]: Gene Odening Trivium Method
Videre Licet [December 1, 2013 - 1:09 am]: How many elites do you think exist?
wanda [December 1, 2013 - 1:09 am]: To whom are you speaking Videre?
Videre Licet [December 1, 2013 - 1:10 am]: posing a question to anyone who wants to answer
wolfman9 [December 1, 2013 - 1:10 am]: good night, thank you
wanda [December 1, 2013 - 1:10 am]: Night wolf... i'm about out myself.
Videre Licet [December 1, 2013 - 1:11 am]: i know of one...
ab [December 1, 2013 - 1:14 am]: good night all. thanks for listening to this "different" audio
ArmunnRigh [December 1, 2013 - 1:15 am]: ab - you got a lady screaming on your stream
wanda [December 1, 2013 - 1:15 am]: It was quite different Ab... quite enjoyable show, as usual, and am sure more to be gleaned from the archive... thank you.
ArmunnRigh [December 1, 2013 - 1:16 am]: is it Ms. Ab Irato? :D
wanda [December 1, 2013 - 1:16 am]: LOL... Armunn, you missed your calling.
ArmunnRigh [December 1, 2013 - 1:17 am]: my calling?
wanda [December 1, 2013 - 1:17 am]: Oh, you never heard that expression... it means, in this context, you should have been a comedian.
ArmunnRigh [December 1, 2013 - 1:18 am]: LOL
wanda [December 1, 2013 - 1:18 am]: In other context... a religious calling. I do not mean that calling.
ArmunnRigh [December 1, 2013 - 1:18 am]: you're the first to ever tell me that
wanda [December 1, 2013 - 1:19 am]: Interesting... there seems to be no cultural difference, as i note...
ArmunnRigh [December 1, 2013 - 1:20 am]: maybe you meant London Calling?! I can change my link to Night Hawk :D
ArmunnRigh [December 1, 2013 - 1:20 am]: *nickname not link
wanda [December 1, 2013 - 1:21 am]: LOL... there you go.
ab [December 1, 2013 - 1:22 am]: Armunn has good insight. I like listening to Anna to. Make sure she gets a chance O:-D
ab [December 1, 2013 - 1:22 am]: too
wanda [December 1, 2013 - 1:23 am]: Ab-solutely.
ArmunnRigh [December 1, 2013 - 1:24 am]: @ab: I'll let her know, but she's been shy lately
wanda [December 1, 2013 - 1:24 am]: Why?
ArmunnRigh [December 1, 2013 - 1:25 am]: I don't know, maybe she doesn't feel like talking about this
ArmunnRigh [December 1, 2013 - 1:26 am]: but I'll ter her at least two people miss her :)
ArmunnRigh [December 1, 2013 - 1:27 am]: *tell
wanda [December 1, 2013 - 1:27 am]: Well... be attentive. That is understandable... she does have an understanding there is trouble in the world... it does become a bit too much, and you two are in love... find balance.
ArmunnRigh [December 1, 2013 - 1:28 am]: oh she's with me on this. In fact, she's my "research center" - she always finds what I'm looking for after I try and fail
wanda [December 1, 2013 - 1:29 am]: Cherish that... and give her my best... we will love to hear from her.
ArmunnRigh [December 1, 2013 - 1:30 am]: I'll tell her, for sure
ArmunnRigh [December 1, 2013 - 1:32 am]: http://fakeologist.com/forums/topic/oh-my-god/ :D
ArmunnRigh [December 1, 2013 - 1:32 am]: Armunn, the comedian
wanda [December 1, 2013 - 1:33 am]: From a woman's perspective... it is all a bit too much at times. I venture to say... even from a man's perspective. It really is too much... from any perspective... it is mind blowing. It is the jews... it is, was, and has been historically... the jews. How does that not feck your mind up? http://www.akisstobreakthespell.com/even-though.html
wanda [December 1, 2013 - 1:34 am]: Who wants that to be the reality?
wanda [December 1, 2013 - 1:34 am]: But... it is the reality.
ArmunnRigh [December 1, 2013 - 1:37 am]: which one?
wanda [December 1, 2013 - 1:39 am]: the one humanity and the world is suffering under.
wanda [December 1, 2013 - 1:39 am]: currently.
wanda [December 1, 2013 - 1:40 am]: if i had my way, we would not be suffering under this deception.
ArmunnRigh [December 1, 2013 - 1:41 am]: yes, but then if you step back, think: what human reality does a bird perceive? Does a bird see humans as something alien or something that is part of reality? You see, this is only a problem from the human perspective. Nature always tends to balance... and suffering is part of that balance.
wanda [December 1, 2013 - 1:42 am]: I didn't mention the birds, did i?
ArmunnRigh [December 1, 2013 - 1:42 am]: no, but I did :D
wanda [December 1, 2013 - 1:42 am]: And... suffering, i.e. evil... is out of balance.
ArmunnRigh [December 1, 2013 - 1:43 am]: then why do animals suffer when they die?
wanda [December 1, 2013 - 1:43 am]: I am fairly certain that most life forms suffer when they die.
wanda [December 1, 2013 - 1:44 am]: You suffer coming in... unless - the egg may be an exception - and you suffer on the way out. Some, random exceptions.
Banazir Galbasi [December 1, 2013 - 1:45 am]: How was the show tonight?
wanda [December 1, 2013 - 1:45 am]: Interesting... different... good.
ArmunnRigh [December 1, 2013 - 1:45 am]: @wanda: falsus in unum, falsus in omnibus
wanda [December 1, 2013 - 1:46 am]: That is the same as nothing lasts forever... nothing is perfect. Everything lasts forever... everything is perfect.
wanda [December 1, 2013 - 1:47 am]: Or... as above, so below.
ArmunnRigh [December 1, 2013 - 1:47 am]: therefore, balance
ArmunnRigh [December 1, 2013 - 1:48 am]: not only one season, but two (with transitions)
wanda [December 1, 2013 - 1:48 am]: One way or the other... balance will be achieved. Makes little difference to the individual organism in the macro-cosm... but to the individual... it is all.
Banazir Galbasi [December 1, 2013 - 1:49 am]: Nothing is true everything is permitted.
wanda [December 1, 2013 - 1:49 am]: There is truth. The sun never lies.
wanda [December 1, 2013 - 1:50 am]: Simon Shack will back me on that.
wanda [December 1, 2013 - 1:50 am]: or... that is to say... Simon said it... and i recognize it as truth.
wanda [December 1, 2013 - 1:52 am]: Anyhow, and this time... i am out of here. I can hardly believe i am still awake... g'nite all...
ArmunnRigh [December 1, 2013 - 1:53 am]: @wanda: So glad to see you back
ArmunnRigh [December 1, 2013 - 1:53 am]: and so glad to have you around too
wanda [December 1, 2013 - 2:00 am]: Thank you Armunn... i am on the mend... i'll get there. Thank God... whatever that means... i don't go to regular doctors anymore - seven years and counting... they've got their pound of flesh and more, those bastards. Don't forget... you might want to listen to J.B. Campbell... http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2013/11/the-realist-report-with-john-friend_28.html
ArmunnRigh [December 1, 2013 - 2:01 am]: @wanda: saved the link. Will do. Now I'm off to bed
wanda [December 1, 2013 - 2:01 am]: And i enjoy you Armunn... immensely. G'nite.
ArmunnRigh [December 1, 2013 - 2:02 am]: see ya!
Incredulous [December 1, 2013 - 2:47 am]: Hey folks, any interesting theories on Paul Walker's death? Ab, you might be interested with the numerology.
wanda [December 1, 2013 - 9:15 am]: Ab... this is the podcast of Mike Delaney and John Friend's debate about September Clues... from over at Mami's... http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2013/12/mike-delaneys-prothink-radio-show-11-30.html
wanda [December 1, 2013 - 9:24 am]: Listening to that now... man, Mike ADLaney is a cheese-ball... he seems to think that a constant flow of insults directed at Simon is somehow a persuasive argument... wow.
wanda [December 1, 2013 - 9:31 am]: Oh... my mistake. Apparently the speaker's name is Scott. I thought it was Mike Delaney... okay... Scott is a cheese-ball.
Videre Licet [December 1, 2013 - 3:39 pm]: @Incredulous: thinking that he really died... what purpose for anything else>
ab [December 1, 2013 - 4:06 pm]: show was late being posted: if you wanted it right after it's made, make sure you go to radio.fakeologist.com and get bittorrent sync. You'll get the show faster, and all the archives as well
Videre Licet [December 1, 2013 - 5:32 pm]: Documentary on Propaganda http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQBPWv11izc
Chubbs [December 1, 2013 - 6:42 pm]: v.
Chubbs [December 1, 2013 - 6:42 pm]: \
ArmunnRigh [December 1, 2013 - 6:57 pm]: @Chubbs: keyboard problems? :-)
Videre Licet [December 1, 2013 - 7:13 pm]: Was this produced for Americans or North Koreans? The last 10 minutes is telling..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQBPWv11izc
Tom-Dalpra [December 1, 2013 - 8:23 pm]: Glasgow - Scotland - questionable 'copter 'crash' and Fast and Furious franchise actor Paul Walker burns to death in a 911.
Tom-Dalpra [December 1, 2013 - 8:24 pm]: in Vaencia California.
Tom-Dalpra [December 1, 2013 - 8:26 pm]: oblique reference there Chubbs?
Videre Licet [December 1, 2013 - 9:20 pm]: Something looks weird in this picture.. Does it look like the wreck was placed there? Shouldn't the ground look scorched? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2516303/Fast--Furious-star-Paul-Walker-dead-fiery-car-wreck-Actor-killed-Porsche-GT-driven-friend-crashed-pole.html
ab [December 1, 2013 - 9:33 pm]: @Videre Licet: cluesforum has a good analysis on this quite fake event.
Jan Erik Hansen [December 1, 2013 - 10:08 pm]: WORLD WAR I GERMAN NEWSREELS "On the Firing Line with the Germans" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucXAZfDPdxE
Videre Licet [December 1, 2013 - 10:33 pm]: @Jan Erik Hansen: interesting footage.
Jan Erik Hansen [December 1, 2013 - 10:41 pm]: YES quite RARE i think.
Jan Erik Hansen [December 1, 2013 - 10:41 pm]: Who DID profit OF WW1 ?
Jan Erik Hansen [December 1, 2013 - 10:42 pm]: Not the workingclass i think !
Jan Erik Hansen [December 1, 2013 - 10:43 pm]: THNX by the way ! :-D
Jan Erik Hansen [December 1, 2013 - 10:43 pm]: http://www.cogsys.ubc.ca/303/files/2012/09/20121011_heur.pdf
Jan Erik Hansen [December 1, 2013 - 10:45 pm]: Niccolo Machiavelli quotes:
Princes and governments are far more dangerous than other elements within society. http://quotes.liberty-tree.ca/quotes_by/niccolo+machiavelli
Jan Erik Hansen [December 1, 2013 - 10:51 pm]: In the thirteenth and fourteenth centuries, the Italian city-states of Venice, Florence, and Genoa were very rich from their trade with the Levant, yet possessed woefully small national armies.
Jan Erik Hansen [December 1, 2013 - 10:51 pm]: In the event that foreign powers and envious neighbors attacked, the ruling nobles hired foreign mercenaries to fight for them. The military-service terms and conditions were stipulated in a condotta (contract) between the city-state and the soldiers (officer and enlisted man), thus, the contracted leader, the mercenary captain commanding, was titled the Condottiere.
Jan Erik Hansen [December 1, 2013 - 10:52 pm]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condottieri
Jan Erik Hansen [December 1, 2013 - 10:57 pm]: http://www.bilderberg.org/bis.htm#Ruling
Jan Erik Hansen [December 1, 2013 - 11:07 pm]: U.S. war department anti-Japanese propaganda film 1945 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-lQ3BrzQO4
Jan Erik Hansen [December 1, 2013 - 11:16 pm]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meiji_Constitution
ArmunnRigh [December 2, 2013 - 1:39 am]: Interesting stuff Jan
columjaddica [December 2, 2013 - 1:52 am]: Articles on the Bronx train derailing are quoting a Joel Zaritsky as a passenger (photographed with the bloody hand). They say he is a dentist but he’s actually an illusionist that claims to work as a dentist part-time. He’s actually the treasurer of a local magician’s group. So there's teeth/dental coming up again
columjaddica [December 2, 2013 - 1:53 am]: Another passenger - “I had gravel in my teeth, I was eating rocks. But I was grateful to be eating rocks because I’m still alive.”
ArmunnRigh [December 2, 2013 - 2:04 am]: @columjaddica: LOL - The traditional portuguese Sopa da pedra? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stone_Soup
columjaddica [December 2, 2013 - 2:18 am]: The conductor's name was William Rockefeller. One of the dead passengers (Jim Lovell) was said to be en-route to Rockefeller Center to put up the Christmas tree.
Tom-Dalpra [December 2, 2013 - 4:57 am]: ''I was grateful to be eating rocks'' -
ab [December 2, 2013 - 5:10 am]: @columjaddica: @Tom-Dalpra: wow they sure mock us as they keep us busy.
columjaddica [December 2, 2013 - 1:44 pm]: There's a lot of funny stuff about the Spitting Devil train crash. It's a really good example of the story I call "People standing on railroad tracks". If I had the time I'd start a blog "People standing on railroad tracks" with several news stories a day. A sister blog could be "Upside down buses".
columjaddica [December 2, 2013 - 1:47 pm]: I'm not getting the Paul Walker story. It sure looks fake though. Is it a joke about killing people who know about “Fast and furious”? Promo for the typhoon? An attack on fast cars and typically male behavior? I don’t really get it. It seems intended to make you recall the Hastings wreck. His PR agency is PMK*BNC, perhaps a look at their client list would explain it. They serve celebs and c
columjaddica [December 2, 2013 - 1:48 pm]: PMK and BNC merged fairly recently and they are about half and half corporate clients and celebs.
ab [December 2, 2013 - 2:47 pm]: @columjaddica: see my post. I think Adam has it right...although it's a weak story that probably deserves little attention
ArmunnRigh [December 2, 2013 - 3:05 pm]: I merely needed a glance at the photos of the wrecked car against a thin tree to conclude fakery. A car gets smashed so hard that it ignites and the tree is still standing and unburned? No need to look further.
columjaddica [December 2, 2013 - 5:23 pm]: Ah I missed that post, checking it out. I suppose that if you Googled "Fast and furious" you would probably get stuff on Walker and not stuff on gun-running. The Paul Walker thing probably doesn't deserve any attention, if only because it involves a celebrity so it already inhabits fantasy land in most minds.
Tom-Dalpra [December 2, 2013 - 5:55 pm]: And in England...last year we had a helicopter crash in London. I couldn't even be bothered with it but naturally considered it untrustworthy...
Tom-Dalpra [December 2, 2013 - 5:57 pm]: tester?
Tom-Dalpra [December 2, 2013 - 6:00 pm]: for this Scottish one? Funny little op...11 dead though. That's not a shabby tally.
ArmunnRigh [December 2, 2013 - 6:06 pm]: Olá, Tom!
Tom-Dalpra [December 2, 2013 - 6:10 pm]: meanwhile the trial of Drummer Lee Rigby's 'killers, the absurd, Adebolajo and Adebowale, the dark brown men with red on their hands - the only questions remaining...where and when are the army going in Africa?
Tom-Dalpra [December 2, 2013 - 6:10 pm]: Ola wise one
Tom-Dalpra [December 2, 2013 - 6:10 pm]: How's the chess looking
ArmunnRigh [December 2, 2013 - 6:11 pm]: Who is Lee Rigby? Is it short for Eleanor Rigby? :D
ArmunnRigh [December 2, 2013 - 6:11 pm]: I do play chess online, mind you :D
Tom-Dalpra [December 2, 2013 - 6:13 pm]: Brilliant. Now get this. DLR - i SAID BEFORE i THINK. dIRECT REFERENCE TO dlr TRAIN LINE IN UK sorry caps so sorry ahem, yes a reference to Woolwich Arsenal. Now if Arsenal do well then people notice it all the time on the underground map. Bob's your uncle. The 'riggers' rig it for Arsenal
Tom-Dalpra [December 2, 2013 - 6:14 pm]: Arsenal- in austerity for years are then seen as the successful model
ArmunnRigh [December 2, 2013 - 6:14 pm]: yes, like Benfica, I see.
ArmunnRigh [December 2, 2013 - 6:15 pm]: You know, whenever there were perceived harsh years in Portugal, Benfica would win something important to work as a valve. Not the same as your Arsenal take, which goes beyond a mere valve, but still related.
Tom-Dalpra [December 2, 2013 - 6:16 pm]: yessum. we did talk about it. Long term manager works in UK WITH MONARCHY ALIGNMENT TO SUCCESSFUL TEAM.
Tom-Dalpra [December 2, 2013 - 6:16 pm]: but yeh, this Rigby thing seems quite part of a clear piece of history writing
Tom-Dalpra [December 2, 2013 - 6:17 pm]: shaping how we think over a period of time
ArmunnRigh [December 2, 2013 - 6:17 pm]: Aaaaaah look at all the lonely people...
Tom-Dalpra [December 2, 2013 - 6:17 pm]: haha
Tom-Dalpra [December 2, 2013 - 6:18 pm]: his nickname was 'Riggers'.
Tom-Dalpra [December 2, 2013 - 6:18 pm]: ffs I almost admire the bravado
ArmunnRigh [December 2, 2013 - 6:18 pm]: one wonders heh?
Tom-Dalpra [December 2, 2013 - 6:19 pm]: no one gets it. that's the laugh. only me you and him in toronto or whatever. noone gets it. not even the conspiracy buffs.
ArmunnRigh [December 2, 2013 - 6:20 pm]: speaking of riggers, remember that grobelaar scandal in which he was accused of rigging matches?
Tom-Dalpra [December 2, 2013 - 6:20 pm]: oh yes - barthez,
Tom-Dalpra [December 2, 2013 - 6:21 pm]: too
ArmunnRigh [December 2, 2013 - 6:21 pm]: yeah, well , barthez was a much worse actor
ArmunnRigh [December 2, 2013 - 6:21 pm]: grobelaar would still make it look like he was really trying to save them
Tom-Dalpra [December 2, 2013 - 6:21 pm]: grobelar was with a winning team in Liverpool I'm not sure how it works but the goalie is a controlled man for sure in the fixing
ArmunnRigh [December 2, 2013 - 6:22 pm]: he was, but he was also involved in the worst Liverpool years
Tom-Dalpra [December 2, 2013 - 6:22 pm]: they can make scorelines happen and score at will I believe. Not all the time but it seems clear does it not to you?
Tom-Dalpra [December 2, 2013 - 6:23 pm]: yeh, he took them down maybe on Grobelar
ArmunnRigh [December 2, 2013 - 6:23 pm]: oh yes, like the example of last time: http://videos.sapo.pt/qTLT8zKSnkzLWUPtJg2M
Tom-Dalpra [December 2, 2013 - 6:24 pm]: hahaahaha I tell ya mate. There's loads of them. These goalkeeping howlers. These keepers are protected men. they get away with utter bullshit sometimes.
ArmunnRigh [December 2, 2013 - 6:25 pm]: it's amazing
Tom-Dalpra [December 2, 2013 - 6:25 pm]: Defenders too. The truth is, it isn't easy to tell and seemingly impossible to prove...
Tom-Dalpra [December 2, 2013 - 6:27 pm]: Hockey in the States last Stanley Cup Final - echoed the Boston Bombing . Two goals right at the end of a major sporting event in boston. boom boom.
Tom-Dalpra [December 2, 2013 - 6:28 pm]: the smile on the losing goalkeepers face was revealing. he couldn't help himself...
Tom-Dalpra [December 2, 2013 - 6:28 pm]: it was theatre! magic trick like.
Tom-Dalpra [December 2, 2013 - 6:32 pm]: and the Red Shirt - sport and teams in red. It's an aggressive colour. Tiger Woods. I'm calling psy-op. The Obama of golf. I think this might be aided, I dunno...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkVDrULXH7c
Tom-Dalpra [December 2, 2013 - 6:32 pm]: just musin' Armunn. Thanks for being there :-)
ArmunnRigh [December 2, 2013 - 6:40 pm]: Benfica is historically roman red - check the symbol and gaze at the eagle.
Tom-Dalpra [December 2, 2013 - 6:43 pm]: The colour is aggressive? It was seen as successful with the red coats of british empire armies.
ArmunnRigh [December 2, 2013 - 6:44 pm]: british empire red coats were also roman red
Tom-Dalpra [December 2, 2013 - 6:44 pm]: portugal used to be pretty advanced in the days of old empires and sea faring....
ArmunnRigh [December 2, 2013 - 6:45 pm]: did anyone spread romanism further than the british empire? :-)
Tom-Dalpra [December 2, 2013 - 6:45 pm]: haha
Tom-Dalpra [December 2, 2013 - 6:45 pm]: all roads
ArmunnRigh [December 2, 2013 - 6:45 pm]: yes, and there were particularities to the portuguese empire that allowed it to fall last
Tom-Dalpra [December 2, 2013 - 6:46 pm]: yes
Tom-Dalpra [December 2, 2013 - 6:47 pm]: ?
ArmunnRigh [December 2, 2013 - 6:48 pm]: Portugal had a small population for the large extent of land it controlled, so it picked natives, educated them as portuguese and gave them titles to rule over a portion on behalf of Portugal. Natives were soon competing among themselves to be the chosen.
Tom-Dalpra [December 2, 2013 - 6:51 pm]: makes sense. Brazil is special...I think even south americans would admit wouldn't they? nThey're a happy up people. maybe I'm generalising
ArmunnRigh [December 2, 2013 - 6:52 pm]: Brazil is one of the most controlled cultures. Samba and football work wonders for appeasing the people's minds.
Tom-Dalpra [December 2, 2013 - 6:57 pm]: mmm controlled like the rest of us I guess...but with more sex
Tom-Dalpra [December 2, 2013 - 6:58 pm]: or something
ArmunnRigh [December 2, 2013 - 7:02 pm]: lol
ArmunnRigh [December 2, 2013 - 7:02 pm]: yes, with a lot more sex embedded in their culture
Tom-Dalpra [December 2, 2013 - 7:06 pm]: disgusting!!
Tom-Dalpra [December 2, 2013 - 7:06 pm]: SAVAGES!!
ArmunnRigh [December 2, 2013 - 7:08 pm]: LOL
ArmunnRigh [December 2, 2013 - 7:08 pm]: that's why the portuguese had so much half-breed children with them :D
Tom-Dalpra [December 2, 2013 - 7:10 pm]: don't tell me you're a half breed? I thought I was talking to a full breed.
Tom-Dalpra [December 2, 2013 - 7:11 pm]: half-breed is fine. In-breed is quirky
ArmunnRigh [December 2, 2013 - 7:11 pm]: LOL
ArmunnRigh [December 2, 2013 - 7:12 pm]: In Portugal, everyone's part something and part a zillion others.
ab [December 2, 2013 - 7:16 pm]: http://rikijo.blogspot.ca/
ab [December 2, 2013 - 7:16 pm]: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cqlD87jCVk&feature=em-uploademail
ab [December 2, 2013 - 7:16 pm]: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ETIba8XmgFA
Tom-Dalpra [December 2, 2013 - 7:47 pm]: building lodges government by stealth...all these years later... it was so stealthy...here we are.
ab [December 2, 2013 - 8:07 pm]: Google has become more unusable ... all searches to my website are marked "encrypted" so I have no idea what people are using to get to my site!
columjaddica [December 2, 2013 - 8:16 pm]: Google enabled SSL by default, proudly claiming it as part of the efforts to stop the NSA. When people click a result using the SSL (HTTPS) version of Google the referrer information is not sent. Basically Google shut down one of the only insights the rest of us have into them. Lots of angry people in the SEO world right now.
columjaddica [December 2, 2013 - 8:17 pm]: BTW SSL probably doesn't provide any protection against our own governments. It's a trust-based system and the trusted authorities are very very close with the government. It does give a false sense of security though...
columjaddica [December 2, 2013 - 8:19 pm]: I have a lot of problems with what Google is doing recently. The quality of the search results is tanking IMO, I face-palm on a daily basis when it returns crap on the kinds of searches that used to work perfectly
columjaddica [December 2, 2013 - 8:20 pm]: "If a website is accessed from a HTTP Secure (HTTPS) connection and a link points to anywhere except another secure location, then the referrer field is not sent."
ab [December 2, 2013 - 8:22 pm]: @columjaddica: thanks. time to use startpage.com
columjaddica [December 2, 2013 - 8:27 pm]: I use DDG a lot, although to be honest I've been a bit stumped by some of their results as well. I kinda think the internet is being pared down using search engines. Bing and Blekko have fairly good results and Exalead is nice at times because it doesn't update too fast, so when a news story pops and certain words start trending you can use Exalead to avoid spam, to find results from before
columjaddica [December 2, 2013 - 8:30 pm]: Google has really gimped the cached pages feature, and advanced options like specifying a date range don't work correctly. Everything seems dumbed down and Google now often ignores specific syntax that it used to parse correctly
columjaddica [December 2, 2013 - 8:31 pm]: The move to SSL at Google started in 2011 but became the forced default after the NSA story broke. It was actually a gradual transition
columjaddica [December 2, 2013 - 8:40 pm]: Many of the recent changes have been perceived as Google killing off the "long tail" keyword. It is profitable for Google to make more demand for fewer keywords. Here's one infographic but really every change Google makes seems to kill the long-tail. A side effect is to centralize thought and hide niche beliefs. http://www.seobook.com/learn-seo/infographics/longtail-fail.php
Dustyash [December 2, 2013 - 9:07 pm]: In listening to the John Friend debate with the Mike Delaney hell bent for leather Jew bashing goof ball I can't help but think there is far too many of us with so many opinions that it is a real shame that we as a society is going to hell in a hand basket. I know it sounds negative but why can't we keep it simple it is actually disturbing to hear the conflict when we are all slaves in this mess
Dustyash [December 2, 2013 - 9:22 pm]: If Mike Delanay and his other hosts are not a controlled opposition he certainly behaves like one I mean honestly it really makes me wonder. Like creating a rabbit hole when you don't have to just my thought help me if I am wrong
Dustyash [December 2, 2013 - 9:35 pm]: Don't get me wrong I can agree that Jews are possibly behind all of this PsyOp stuff but my god why is it so hard for them to understand that who ever it is they are doing good job at manipulating us through media fakery and we just need to recognize this deception for what it is. It is all about fearing us into submission it is as simple as "Out with the cold war" "In with the war on terror"
Dustyash [December 2, 2013 - 9:37 pm]: What a joke!
Dustyash [December 2, 2013 - 9:48 pm]: But these are just my thoughts I am just a slave no matter what happens anyway I just can only hope that sites like these that genuinely want to come to some solutions and calm down with rational conclusions will make a real difference with a serious attitude People often ask me what can we do about it well there are people like Ab that are demonstrating what to do whether big or small.
Dustyash [December 2, 2013 - 9:51 pm]: It is a start in the right direction the question what they are not asking themselves is "What am I not doing about it"??? that is the sad thing
columjaddica [December 2, 2013 - 10:13 pm]: I thought the show was depressing. I used to put it all on the Jews and I still can't help but notice them in the psyops but they don't act alone. I don't agree with prothink that Simon's take lets Jews off-the-hook. Fakery, legal or illegal, is wrong and if people realized it was happening they would be angry.
columjaddica [December 2, 2013 - 10:13 pm]: Does anybody have any links to some good audio on anything? Radio or speech or whatever? I have a few hours to listen to something but I don't have any ideas right now
wanda [December 2, 2013 - 10:54 pm]: @columjaddica: http://corporationnationradioarchives.wordpress.com/ -tonight's topic is the importance of violence... and hope is inaction... (it is) I fell asleep during the first ten minutes, am now catching it on the archive... Clint's work is very good, generally well researched... i have questions about some of his contributors, but no so far on Clint.
wanda [December 2, 2013 - 10:58 pm]: How do you have a gangrene on your foot and refuse to let yourself speak of it out of fear it will kill you... it will kill you regardless.
wanda [December 2, 2013 - 10:59 pm]: Reluctance to reveal the jews as the perpetrators of all this evil is doing exactly what they want you to do. There is no logic in turning that around...
smj [December 2, 2013 - 11:22 pm]: if nemesis arrived tonite and exacts vengeance upon the jewz, i would still wake-up a serf in the morning; and the jewz would be replaced in the narrative by lunch-time.
wanda [December 2, 2013 - 11:42 pm]: smj... by whom?
wanda [December 2, 2013 - 11:43 pm]: It would take some time for anyone replacing the jews to consolidate the media... that couldn't happen by lunchtime... not likely the jews would bequeath it to a goyem.
wanda [December 2, 2013 - 11:45 pm]: That consolidation of the media makes it a pretty unfair fight... you'd agree with that, right?
columjaddica [December 3, 2013 - 4:49 am]: I don't know if anybody has posted this before, for all I know the person who made it participates here, but damn is the whole channel really great. Subject is of course media fakery http://www.youtube.com/user/saesch1/videos http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KE6BacZpsMQ
columjaddica [December 3, 2013 - 5:18 am]: On Snowden, eastern religion, hope porn
columjaddica [December 3, 2013 - 5:18 am]: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Imrzwh7fXY
ab [December 3, 2013 - 5:30 am]: @columjaddica: thanks
columjaddica [December 3, 2013 - 6:00 am]: No problem. I got something else strange and interesting here. I was on another forum that leans left and anti-war and somebody posted this old article from 2010 https://www.adbusters.org/magazine/90/hedges-american-psychosis.html
columjaddica [December 3, 2013 - 6:01 am]: I think it's kind of strange that it has the Miley wrecking-ball picture, that only "happened" recently. So somebody went back and changed the picture and somebody else went out to post the article around?
columjaddica [December 3, 2013 - 6:01 am]: It's titled "American Psychosis - What happens to a society that cannot distinguish between reality and illusion?"
columjaddica [December 3, 2013 - 6:02 am]: Check out the last paragraph, reads like a pre-confession about what's going on right now. Fits right in with the Snowden psyop, the new message is intended to let us know we need to live like Soviets
columjaddica [December 3, 2013 - 6:32 am]: Does anybody else feel like the illusionists are trying to be discovered? I
columjaddica [December 3, 2013 - 6:34 am]: I've been suspicious of that since Boston Marathon and that whole burst of psyops. Now they are pushing dummies around and making it more blatant every time. That's the one thing that has me very unsettled. Because if they force an understanding of this on the whole public then violence would be assured, right?
columjaddica [December 3, 2013 - 6:35 am]: I'm pretty creeped out by all of this at times. I know there was always fakery but something really did change a year ago.
columjaddica [December 3, 2013 - 6:38 am]: It doesn't seem logical but maybe they plan that people will split 50/50? Or maybe I'm just getting paranoid and this is just a cycle which will fade? It doesn't seem like it though, and if these people like numbers we have a lot of interesting centennials ahead of us.
columjaddica [December 3, 2013 - 6:56 am]: Haha I see now you already had a video from that person on the main page. Well, it's a good channel anyways
wanda [December 3, 2013 - 10:03 am]: @columjaddica: I know exactly what you're saying. It is almost as if it is a set up to trap the ones who think they are the trappers.. ??? Enough rope to hang yourself... comes to mind. But, i think it also sets the stage for some "hero" to arrive on the scene, Jesus-like, to rescue us all right when things could get no worse... and we welcome him/it with open arms and empty minds.
wanda [December 3, 2013 - 10:13 am]: Has anyone here witnessed, first hand, Black Friday insanity? In my entire life, i have never, not once, participated in rushing out to shop the day after Thanksgiving... so, i couldn't say. Are these stories of people being trampled and tazed falsified too?
ab [December 3, 2013 - 10:17 am]: @wanda: I think a bit of both. You only need a few agitators (coadjutors) to set off a fire. Although I think people are becoming more indifferent and lazy and dumbed down that I think they need more paid actors than before
wanda [December 3, 2013 - 10:39 am]: Ab... yeah, it stumps the imagination. As Armunn points out, very astutely, and my mind keeps returning to it: There are players on the board who are willing scapegoats... they purchased that position. It could very well be all for show... we know they don't really get tried and convicted... and they laugh all the way to the bank... again and again... and a new game gets set up.
wanda [December 3, 2013 - 11:34 am]: We never get to see the chess masters... they are not on the board... that's how the story goes, at any rate. But, i wonder if the table wasn't turned at some point and the players aren't the masters too? Or if the players weren't always the masters... skin in the game does make it more exciting.
Smoke and mirrors.
wanda [December 3, 2013 - 11:35 am]: Very intriguing.
ab [December 3, 2013 - 2:21 pm]: @wanda: my position is the Jews are but a rook or horse at most on the chess board. The whole notion of race and religion is a divide and conquer policy. Look at what constitutes a Tutsi over a Hutu - a Tutsi has at least 10 cows! People must get over their irrelevant divisions of class,race,or religion and see they are being played off against each other as fools
wanda [December 3, 2013 - 2:33 pm]: I think people are over the race/religion thing... to the point they won't look at the history. Meanwhile, the only true racists are running the show. The true racists have been exiled from 84 places some 104 times. At some point, you got to say... maybe it is the jews: http://www.subvertednation.net/jew-lists/jewish-expulsions-and-exiles/
wanda [December 3, 2013 - 2:34 pm]: The US is a Zionist Occupied Government. It was the same way in Germany prior to Hitler. Hitler, IMO, was the Hegalian solution for the time. This was also seen in communist Russia... it has played out many times, in many places: http://www.jewwatch.com/jew-occupiedgovernments-folder.html
wanda [December 3, 2013 - 2:35 pm]: Concerning the minority in power positions... If Jews are 2% of the US population, how is it they are disproportionately over-represented across all spectra of "high ranking" professions? Numbers don't lie: http://thezog.wordpress.com/
wanda [December 3, 2013 - 2:40 pm]: Armunn pointed this out in the beginning of Episode 78 & my mind keeps returning to it: The Jews are the visible players on the chess board & are willing scapegoats. It is a purchased position. Benefits/dividends are wealth & privilege. We see this. We now know the players never really get tried & convicted... they laugh all the way to the bank... again and again... & a new game gets set up.
wanda [December 3, 2013 - 2:41 pm]: We never get to see the chess masters... they are not on the board... that's how the story goes, at any rate. But, i wonder if the table wasn't turned at some point & the players aren't the masters too? Or if the players weren't always the masters... skin in the game does make it more exciting.
Smoke and mirrors... Why would we rationally not examine this?
wanda [December 3, 2013 - 2:48 pm]: Ooops... i repeated myself.
wanda [December 3, 2013 - 2:52 pm]: The jews as a group are screwing everyone across the board... including themselves. If that doesn't define insanity, please define insanity. I care not if one or two jews fall into the maelstrom... they've collectively shoved countless hundreds of millions of unsuspecting into the abyss.
ArmunnRigh [December 3, 2013 - 3:37 pm]: @wanda: My comment to that is that a piece involved in the game has a limited viewpoint and limited movements, plus options that are dependant on too many other pieces. All the pieces acquire a package or a set of rules in a contract that does not necessarily mean it was signed with full awareness by everyone involved. The same attributes found in jews are found in all other chess pieces.
ArmunnRigh [December 3, 2013 - 3:39 pm]: @wanda: It is true and evident that they are the most passionate of them all about believing that their contract is THE ONE, but they simply lack the ability, the vision or the creativity to control the entire chessboard. Only from a vantage point outside it can this be done.
ArmunnRigh [December 3, 2013 - 3:41 pm]: @wanda: If one was to postulate that the jews had at some point replaced the player, then we wouldn't be having this conversation anymore - in fact, we wouldn't even be thinking about much, for our reality would have been completely overwhelmed by their end goals.
ArmunnRigh [December 3, 2013 - 3:43 pm]: I will take the chance to speak further on my opinion of this saturday, with Tom from CT, if it emerges.
Tom-Dalpra [December 3, 2013 - 3:52 pm]: Jewish faith, Muslim faith, .Christian faith. Support the minority group just as in Ab post. You then have a controllable, hungry, resourceful animal to dominate the media with oh and the banking...
wanda [December 3, 2013 - 4:02 pm]: That's a good point Armunn... unless we are looking at it with all the poisons we are being hit with. I will have to think further on that. I look forward to Saturday's show.
Tom-Dalpra [December 3, 2013 - 4:02 pm]: Ab's post being ''Blackmail the minority in power positions.'' This is the principle I see here. Same deal. Long-time paradigm.
ArmunnRigh [December 3, 2013 - 4:03 pm]: @Tom-Dalpra: "Long-time paradigm" sounds a good title for a song. Why don't you get to it, man?
Tom-Dalpra [December 3, 2013 - 4:04 pm]: It just comes out
wanda [December 3, 2013 - 4:04 pm]: It does not excuse the fact that that passion has caused the deaths of countless hundred thousands and the destruction of our planet... for that alone... it needs to be examined.
Tom-Dalpra [December 3, 2013 - 4:04 pm]: yes. It does.
Tom-Dalpra [December 3, 2013 - 4:04 pm]: in my humble
Tom-Dalpra [December 3, 2013 - 4:05 pm]: but seen for what it is
wanda [December 3, 2013 - 4:05 pm]: and stopped.
Tom-Dalpra [December 3, 2013 - 4:06 pm]: yes, they have been duped like the rest of us
wanda [December 3, 2013 - 4:07 pm]: That is correct Tom... t.u.
Tom-Dalpra [December 3, 2013 - 4:07 pm]: it's madness. Ridiculous carry-on. Silly old religion.
wanda [December 3, 2013 - 4:08 pm]: All governments are the same religion... two arms of the same beast.
Carole Thomas [December 3, 2013 - 4:25 pm]: Australian MP Anne Bressington explains the origin of Climate Change Fraud
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWT6OzsWI-Y
ArmunnRigh [December 3, 2013 - 4:38 pm]: This just happened in Portugal! It's true! Here's the photograph to prove it! https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/q71/531931_476248402493089_164786027_n.jpg
Tom-Dalpra [December 3, 2013 - 4:39 pm]: was it a near hit?
ArmunnRigh [December 3, 2013 - 4:40 pm]: bullseye!
ArmunnRigh [December 3, 2013 - 4:40 pm]: bullsassholes, to be more accurate
Tom-Dalpra [December 3, 2013 - 4:41 pm]: @Carole Thomas. I would really like to think she is a genuine brave intelligent woman. So used to being steered perhaps this truth is damage limitation. The agw narrative in Oz will be interesting to follow.
Tom-Dalpra [December 3, 2013 - 4:42 pm]: bullshit
Tom-Dalpra [December 3, 2013 - 4:42 pm]: or perhaps @ Armunn Bull Shit more like!
ArmunnRigh [December 3, 2013 - 4:42 pm]: true!
Tom-Dalpra [December 3, 2013 - 4:44 pm]: in scotland they made a real big deal of leaving bodies in the wreckage and being careful about retrieving the police copter. It was as if they were subliminally imprinting how the police are more important than ...'people!
ArmunnRigh [December 3, 2013 - 4:45 pm]: aren't they?
Tom-Dalpra [December 3, 2013 - 4:45 pm]: it was ridiculous. If there had been real deaths then it wouldn't have been allowed but they are able to milk it and the fact they get away with it makes it real in the abstract!
ArmunnRigh [December 3, 2013 - 4:51 pm]: of course
ArmunnRigh [December 3, 2013 - 4:51 pm]: the whole purpose of staging instead of having it happen for real is that you control almost all the ramifications of the story you want to tell
Tom-Dalpra [December 3, 2013 - 6:05 pm]: indeed. and there ends lessons for my day. Good day and night to ya people.
aralsea [December 3, 2013 - 8:14 pm]: America is in decline but the state of Georgia is still beautiful.
wanda [December 3, 2013 - 8:21 pm]: As is Upstate New York... i live in the garden of eden... worth fighting for... imo. It belongs to the inhabitants... a gift from the mother.
wanda [December 3, 2013 - 8:23 pm]: I've been to Georgia... very beautiful and people are genteel.
wanda [December 3, 2013 - 8:24 pm]: Pecans, peaches and a Stuckey's sign every 5 miles on the highway... as i recall. Is it still the same?
wanda [December 3, 2013 - 8:24 pm]: A mansion alongside a shanty... that's my recollection of the charm of Georgia.
aralsea [December 3, 2013 - 8:27 pm]: I was near Atlanta a few summers ago. Beautiful roads and green spaces and lakes. The southern states are nice.
aralsea [December 3, 2013 - 8:28 pm]: I am not far from you Wanda. I actually like Buffalo. Nice victorian homes there.
wanda [December 3, 2013 - 8:29 pm]: Isn't a mind blow how every State is significantly different from every other? From the landscape to the very cloud formations... i can never get over that ad you can never understand until you experience it.
wanda [December 3, 2013 - 8:30 pm]: Buffalo... where, it is said, they roll up the sidewalks at 7:00. Like that's a bad thing. LOL... the perception management is as palpable as it is now bull sh*t.
aralsea [December 3, 2013 - 8:31 pm]: But Niagara Falls NY needs a facelift. Compared to Niagara Falls, Ontario.
wanda [December 3, 2013 - 8:33 pm]: Big time... it has always been that way... you never would want to cross from Canada to the NY side of Niagara. It's like Kansas to OZ. Kansas... now that is one state if fail to see much charm in... although was only crossing through from NY to Cali.
wanda [December 3, 2013 - 8:34 pm]: I live in Ontario NY... but am an one hour drive from the Canadian border.
wanda [December 3, 2013 - 8:35 pm]: It's a big lake. Still need a passport to cross the border now. The politicians have got to be stopped... the agenda needs to be stopped.
aralsea [December 3, 2013 - 8:37 pm]: I haven't swan in Lake Ontario since I was a kid. I go north to Muskoka to swim. Been there?
wanda [December 3, 2013 - 8:39 pm]: No... i spent 27-28 years of my life in the mountains of Colorado. Breckenridge. I believe the one of the highest towns in the US outside of Como, Colorado. People love the scenery there, but i always missed the flora and fauna of NY.
columjaddica [December 3, 2013 - 8:40 pm]: I'm in the mountains in Colorado, just moved here. At about 8k feet. It's beautiful but I miss the forest types in Michigan. The thing about the mountains is that the sky always looks amazing
wanda [December 3, 2013 - 8:41 pm]: My kid sister almost drowned in Lake Erie... a stranger in a passing car dived in and rescued her. Lots of water here... although... you would think there's water shortage listening to the globalists and going by price.
columjaddica [December 3, 2013 - 8:41 pm]: Out of all of the places I've been, I thought Ontario up on the top of Lake Superior is amazing
wanda [December 3, 2013 - 8:41 pm]: 8k... that'd be about Aspen, right?
wanda [December 3, 2013 - 8:42 pm]: Vail is 9,000
columjaddica [December 3, 2013 - 8:42 pm]: Nederland
aralsea [December 3, 2013 - 8:42 pm]: @columjaddica: yes it is I was there 20 years ago on a train out west to BC
wanda [December 3, 2013 - 8:42 pm]: Boulder... that is a beautiful are...
wanda [December 3, 2013 - 8:42 pm]: area
columjaddica [December 3, 2013 - 8:42 pm]: Boulder annoys me tbh but it's nice I guess
aralsea [December 3, 2013 - 8:43 pm]: you'd think you were in paradise in colorado. is it the great north west migration?
columjaddica [December 3, 2013 - 8:43 pm]: Canada has a lot of beatiful places. I went to Manitoulin Island as well, that was pretty amazing, great fishing!
wanda [December 3, 2013 - 8:43 pm]: I dunno... partial to NY.
columjaddica [December 3, 2013 - 8:43 pm]: People leave the midwest and go to Houston, Arizona, or Colorado
aralsea [December 3, 2013 - 8:44 pm]: manitoulin for 1 day i was nice place too. I like NY too
aralsea [December 3, 2013 - 8:44 pm]: Been to Hawaii?
wanda [December 3, 2013 - 8:45 pm]: Not... been to Alaska though.
wanda [December 3, 2013 - 8:45 pm]: Katmai Island.
columjaddica [December 3, 2013 - 8:45 pm]: I only went to NY once, in July 2001, I used to have a reciept from a Sbarros Pizza in the WTC where I bought a beer underage.
aralsea [December 3, 2013 - 8:45 pm]: Cool. I like HAwaii but Alaska I want to go. I was at WTC North tower 1994.
wanda [December 3, 2013 - 8:45 pm]: Sbarro's Pizza... NYC, They are still famous.
wanda [December 3, 2013 - 8:47 pm]: I had cocktails in Windows on the World in Trade Center number something or other... there was a restaurant in one of those buildings that came down... not sure what else was there.
wanda [December 3, 2013 - 8:47 pm]: Might have only been the restaurant.
aralsea [December 3, 2013 - 8:48 pm]: I cannot remember the inside of the WTC too much. Just the top view which was amazing. and windy.
wanda [December 3, 2013 - 8:49 pm]: That's it Aral... me too. Was there anything there besides the restaurant at the top. That does seem to be the billion dollar question.
wanda [December 3, 2013 - 8:49 pm]: The roof... and you can look out at the city scape through those funky looking viewers... and the restaurant.
aralsea [December 3, 2013 - 8:50 pm]: Yes, What was inside? Nothing? I was not in the restaurant.
wanda [December 3, 2013 - 8:51 pm]: And you get on the elevator and it shoots you up express, skipping through floors # ___ through ___ , like you would know what that meant... and would just assume others did.
aralsea [December 3, 2013 - 8:51 pm]: exactly, just zoom to the top with one pit stop in the middle I think.
wanda [December 3, 2013 - 8:51 pm]: Yeah.
wanda [December 3, 2013 - 8:52 pm]: That is it... that is how i recall it.
aralsea [December 3, 2013 - 8:52 pm]: also an escalator
wanda [December 3, 2013 - 8:52 pm]: Like floor 77 or something like that... remember?
wanda [December 3, 2013 - 8:53 pm]: Probably was floors 33 - 77 were skipped... LOL. But, cannot say for certain.
aralsea [December 3, 2013 - 8:54 pm]: yes of course
aralsea [December 3, 2013 - 8:54 pm]: ok gotta go nice chattin'
wanda [December 3, 2013 - 8:54 pm]: likewise.
columjaddica [December 3, 2013 - 11:55 pm]: The first 33 resilient cities out of the Rockefeller 100 years 100 cities challenge have been selected. Their resiliency managers (Tsars) are being dispatched. This program from Rockefeller is the official narrative and "solution" to the fabricated disaster campaign. http://www.rockefellerfoundation.org/blog/33-resilient-cities-announced-by
columjaddica [December 3, 2013 - 11:56 pm]: They are literally re-upping after a century and saying they are planning out for another 100
columjaddica [December 4, 2013 - 12:03 am]: I think to them 2013 is where the new millennium started. They gave us the Y2K thing but that was only a joke 13 years before this. It marked the start of that period of building. On Y2k we never got the planes falling out of the skies or any of the doom. Now all of the sudden 13 years later it starts "happening". The 2012 Mayan hype was another jab at us in this vein
aralsea [December 4, 2013 - 9:51 am]: No fakery here I just LOVE this song by LOVE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZFlfS6mXw4&list=PL593D1BC6A72690ED
columjaddica [December 4, 2013 - 8:19 pm]: Checking that list of 33 resilient cities I just realized that Boulder is on this list. I'm not in the city of Boulder but I'm in the county and the politicians here in my town are strong Agenda 21 supporters. Not much a surprise considering the politics in Boulder (and the tax rate). They are tying this in to the recent flood event
columjaddica [December 4, 2013 - 8:19 pm]: http://www.dailycamera.com/news/boulder/ci_24649955/boulder-resilience-should-be-focus-flood-recovery
Tom-Dalpra [December 4, 2013 - 8:23 pm]: @columjaddica '33 resilient cities'...man it's a cringe isn't it?
columjaddica [December 4, 2013 - 9:02 pm]: Yeah, I thought that was a nice touch. I am fairly certain that this Rockefeller program explains something about the fake disasters, the timing of it (100 years later), and I see the world resiliency EVERYWHERE these days. It's another concept relating to the trauma program. Resilient examples we get on the TV turn around after disaster with a smile, and set out to change the community
columjaddica [December 4, 2013 - 9:04 pm]: Another angle to look at is the US military resilience program, it was a disaster, suicides increased, but they considered it a success and it is now in newspapers and community centers around the US and Canada (and probably further)
columjaddica [December 4, 2013 - 9:18 pm]: The magic numbers things has been really getting me lately. I just started taking the sum of two digit numbers I see, like 27 (2+7=9) or 38 (3+8=11). Since I started doing this I don't know how many times I've seen 9 and 11 together. Today I was watching Andy Griffith and they were in front a shop and all of the prices on the window summed up to a 9 or 11. I really need to stop with those games
columjaddica [December 4, 2013 - 9:18 pm]: Lest I go crazy
ArmunnRigh [December 4, 2013 - 9:35 pm]: @columjaddica: They are getting Boulder every day!
columjaddica [December 4, 2013 - 9:42 pm]: Lol, I thinking of starting a twitter feed to follow and criticize the new resiliency manager. I've never used Twitter but I don't have the work ethic to update a normal blog frequently so perhaps micro-blogging is for me
columjaddica [December 4, 2013 - 9:43 pm]: I've used Twitter to read but never posted, it does seem like it could be a useful tool to harass people who need some of that
columjaddica [December 4, 2013 - 9:44 pm]: Any recent good radio shows anywhere? I don't know all of the shows yet but I'm wanting to listen to radio lately (doing some work that allows that). I know about this show, the realist report, and no-agenda
ArmunnRigh [December 4, 2013 - 9:51 pm]: Have a go at this one: http://www.triviumeducation.com/trivium/school-sucks-245-trivium-part-three-grammar-logic-rhetoric/
columjaddica [December 4, 2013 - 9:54 pm]: Thanks! I've been wanting to learn more about the trivium, it's a new concept to me (coming from a public school)
ArmunnRigh [December 4, 2013 - 9:55 pm]: for me too
columjaddica [December 4, 2013 - 9:57 pm]: I have some friends that are just starting a family and they plan to homeschool. They came to me for ideas so I'll be forwarding this on to them
ArmunnRigh [December 4, 2013 - 9:57 pm]: good idea
columjaddica [December 5, 2013 - 12:53 am]: I'm having a hoot researching this Rockefeller initiative in my local area. I tried to identify some names and then look for contacts for them, but I get directed to this. Like I have to pay hundreds of dollars to communicate with the tsars in control of this. http://www.3cma.org/forms.aspx?FID=91
Jan Erik Hansen [December 5, 2013 - 1:18 am]: The Plane Truth ~ Hollywoodization of Terror/News - PTS 3052 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxwtS-wd0qk
Carole Thomas [December 5, 2013 - 6:35 am]: Australian MP Anne Bressington explains the origin of Climate Change Fraud
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWT6OzsWI-Y
smj [December 5, 2013 - 2:13 pm]: not so fast, not so furious https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5v3oFbF6iU&feature=c4-overview&list=UUXJvAKcEJpWAOsPcOTGxMSg
Tom-Dalpra [December 5, 2013 - 5:02 pm]: @ smj - is that clear foreshadowing? I'm doubtless missing something. It's a pontiac firebird but he did say burn his arse...
smj [December 5, 2013 - 7:08 pm]: @ firebird, or a phoenix perchance?
columjaddica [December 6, 2013 - 5:10 am]: BREAKING - 1 man arrested, another ID'ed in theft of parts from Porsche that crashed killing Fast & Furious actor & driver via @mpLASD https://twitter.com/anblanx/status/408798712391929856
columjaddica [December 6, 2013 - 5:10 am]: So apparently a few too many people were asking questions and they needed to back the hoax up
columjaddica [December 6, 2013 - 5:11 am]: Wait, actually the alleged thefts happened after the crash, when the vehicle was being towed away
columjaddica [December 6, 2013 - 5:14 am]: aangirfan pushing Paul Walker murder theory... http://aangirfan.blogspot.com/2013/12/paul-walker-murdered.html
columjaddica [December 6, 2013 - 7:02 am]: http://www.theonion.com/articles/white-house-announces-sasha-obama-to-now-be-played,34618/
columjaddica [December 6, 2013 - 8:38 am]: Look at this picture of the label of the most popular beer in my area. I just realized how masonic it is, but wow. They often offer it at special prices, special numbers http://deliriumhoppyloft.com/media/catalog/product/cache/7/thumbnail/500x/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/l/e/left_hand_sawtooth_ale.png
Tom-Dalpra [December 6, 2013 - 10:16 am]: it's everywhere, from a phoenix on a Pontiac, to a 911 Porsche, to the beer you drink when you think...
UNreal [December 6, 2013 - 10:27 am]: Brazils soccer World Cup draw has got even more attention as the football president of south africa timely passes away,,, could they have done a "bin laden" death here and kept him on ice until a convenient media event was on the horizon ?
UNreal [December 6, 2013 - 10:39 am]: Nelson Mandela has already died a couple of times on twitter,,
columjaddica [December 6, 2013 - 11:26 am]: What is it that makes people sensitive to the messages? I certainly was not always aware and looking. I'm listening to some songs I've known since I was a child but back then most of the messages were obscured. It's like an inside joke
columjaddica [December 6, 2013 - 12:21 pm]: America Is Launching A Giant, World-Sucking Octopus Into Space http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/05/nro-satellite-logo_n_4394577.html
aralsea [December 6, 2013 - 12:40 pm]: Fakeologist theme song? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoyPR6KCHoQ
aralsea [December 6, 2013 - 12:45 pm]: Paul Simon 9/11 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNvaX6VpLMs
ArmunnRigh [December 6, 2013 - 2:54 pm]: @aralsea: Or this one? :-D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDs_aRRdp2o
ArmunnRigh [December 6, 2013 - 2:58 pm]: @aralsea: But now seriously, this is also a contender for Fakeologist theme song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyU0P6iqyw4
farcevalue [December 6, 2013 - 8:37 pm]: @columjaddica: Check this:
farcevalue [December 6, 2013 - 8:37 pm]: http://fotoforensics.com/analysis.php?id=81f339211edff299cd584d99d70e464acc675958.87738&fmt=ela
columjaddica [December 7, 2013 - 12:31 am]: @farcevalue: What's that ELA from? I don't recognize the image off of the top of my head
columjaddica [December 7, 2013 - 12:34 am]: Nevermind, found it from the NRO satellite article. Yeah they've been giving us a lot of these mysterious space launch stories. I'm not very good at interpreting ELA, I played around with it for a long while after Sandy Hook but eventually decided it didn't mean anything to me
wanda [December 7, 2013 - 1:11 am]: Show #39... what does the private prison system and girl scout cookies have in common... Habitat for Humanity is not what we are lead to believe it is and Bob Barker is an asshole... and much more. This one is a jaw dropper... click and listen: http://corporationnationradioarchives.wordpress.com/
farcevalue [December 7, 2013 - 5:35 am]: @columjaddica: I got a feel for it by uploading a few of my own photos. ELA shows that space octopus looks to be a mass of cut and paste. that was my first impression when I looked at it though.
columjaddica [December 7, 2013 - 5:48 am]: The problem I have with ELA is that I actually ran some legitimate photos through it and it highlighted things like logos, really anywhere where very different colors border each other. Not saying that it's worthless but it's hard to interpret
columjaddica [December 7, 2013 - 5:55 am]: I spent a long time researching Sandy Hook photos and after months of messing with ELA it just didn't seem like a reliable tool. One of the things I noticed from the SH pictures is that there were frequently large areas of the image that consist of pure white (255, 255, 255), pure red (255, 0, 0) etc. The images seemed abnormally saturated
columjaddica [December 7, 2013 - 6:13 am]: http://gizmodo.com/5304233/entire-new-13+story-building-tips-over-in-shanghai/
ab [December 7, 2013 - 7:56 am]: no show tonite guys...family night. I may come on sometime Sunday afternoon to talk... which would be good for the European listener.
columjaddica [December 7, 2013 - 7:57 am]: Death Hoax for Family Guy's Brian http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2013/12/06/family-guys-brian-coming-back-in-upcoming-episode/?intcmp=features
Jan Erik Hansen [December 7, 2013 - 1:19 pm]: Giammaria Ortes: The Decadent Venetian Kook Who Originated The Myth of “Carrying Capacity” http://tarpley.net/online-books/against-oligarchy/giammaria-ortes-the-decadent-venetian-kook-who-originated-the-myth-of-carrying-capacity/
Jan Erik Hansen [December 7, 2013 - 2:29 pm]: The core strength of Commonwealth Law Form as a sovereign system of control is the continued unique manipulation of the mind of those at each and every core level of society:
(i) At the lowest level of the worker, the pauper control is achieved by making all commodities essential to survival controlled by trade, market price and the availability of money. The generation of money is then controlle
Jan Erik Hansen [December 7, 2013 - 2:29 pm]: The generation of money is then controlled by placing a meager value on work so survival is by subsistence, so the focus of the worker and pauper is on survival and not organized revolt or rebellion.
wanda [December 7, 2013 - 3:57 pm]: and how.
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aralsea [December 7, 2013 - 8:56 pm]: tanx
jimbo [December 7, 2013 - 9:57 pm]: http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=december+7th+infamy+speech&qs=n&form=QBVR&pq=december+7th+infamy+speech&sc=0-20&sp=-1&sk=&first=1#view=detail&mid=10ADAA87C07865E7CE1410ADAA87C07865E7CE14
Anders-Lindman [December 7, 2013 - 11:45 pm]: live show now?
Anders-Lindman [December 7, 2013 - 11:46 pm]: oh, I see now the comment about no show tonite
columjaddica [December 8, 2013 - 3:09 am]: A new French incident demonstrates the inherent problems in the SSL (HTTPS) encryption system used everywhere on the internet. it never provided any protection from government. For a laugh, remember that Google moved everybody to SSL citing the Snowden affair.
columjaddica [December 8, 2013 - 3:09 am]: http://www.reddit.com/r/netsec/comments/1sc3t8/french_ca_anssi_issuing_unauthorized_certs_for/
columjaddica [December 8, 2013 - 3:11 am]: The whole thing was designed to be corruptible by government from the start. Many people who should have known better only started understanding this recently. You could probably include me in that category.
columjaddica [December 8, 2013 - 3:28 am]: I wonder if anybody ever really studies Google search rankings and how sites fall and rise when certain events happen? I feel like Google is just a big mystery box but we give them everything from our email to our DNA. There is the Google we get, and the Google they get, I bet the interface isn't even much different, but the results are..
columjaddica [December 8, 2013 - 4:16 am]: I ran into this song today, never heard of the band before, even though I used to be into punk music. Wikipedia describes it as punk but it seems like trolling to me. Anyways, the lyrics were interesting. The Bollock Brothers - Legend of the snake http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bdPfpNli8M
columjaddica [December 8, 2013 - 4:20 am]: I like to remember that we are in the year of the snake until the end of January. The media has not forgotten this and we got asian characters in most of the psyops (think 777 crash but I found it in nearly everything, from Moore OK to Sandy Hook). We also get snakes on planes in australia http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2013/09/snake-scare-grounds-qantas-plane-in-australia/
columjaddica [December 8, 2013 - 4:24 am]: The song mentions this book, which I was also not familiar with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chariots_of_the_Gods
Tom-Dalpra [December 8, 2013 - 3:47 pm]: I know main-man Jock McDonald from The Bollock Brothers from the old days, as it goes. I got him on facebook. What do ya wanna know columjaddica? :-)
Tom-Dalpra [December 8, 2013 - 4:39 pm]: https://www.facebook.com/bollock.brothers?fref=ts
columjaddica [December 8, 2013 - 11:30 pm]: @Tom-Dalpra. Haha, that's cool didn't really have any questions, just noted that the song was jam packed with creepy stuff!
JohnnyClues [December 9, 2013 - 12:23 am]: Time for some "jew bash extreme"!.....gonna attempt to listen to the DelaneyFriend debate....woooooo weeeeeeeeee should be a doozy!
JohnnyClues [December 9, 2013 - 12:43 am]: restarting"the debate" with Delaney/Friend.....gonna count how many times the word "jew" is said.....I predict over 200 times....i'll let the chat know the final "jew" number afterwards.
columjaddica [December 9, 2013 - 2:27 am]: CBS opening up freemasonry http://www.cbsnews.com/news/inside-the-secret-world-of-the-freemasons/
JohnnyClues [December 9, 2013 - 3:38 am]: Final "Jewish/Jew" Count from "The Delaney/Friend Debate" was..............(drumroll)......
JohnnyClues [December 9, 2013 - 3:40 am]: 140 "jew" references(I might of missed a few"jews" in the count).....a 2hr43min,18 sec Debate which included at least 140 "jew" references....(I'm pretty jew-ed out in all honesty)
JohnnyClues [December 9, 2013 - 3:41 am]: And no disrespect.....but did anyone else after listening to that broadcast have a hankering for a box of these as well(perhaps it was psychic driven into me) ----------> http://www.oldtimecandy.com/jujubes.htm
Tom-Dalpra [December 9, 2013 - 4:11 am]: :-) haha it is ridiculous. Positive -negative - discrimination - it doesn't matter what sort. I'm off to Jewsons to get some wood.
columjaddica [December 9, 2013 - 4:27 am]: Is it just me or has there been a kind of a lull in the disaster stories the last few days? I dunno, maybe just because it was the weekend, usually Monday morning opens up the news cycle with something bloody
columjaddica [December 9, 2013 - 5:21 am]: http://en.ria.ru/russia/20131209/185390572/Russia-Announces-State-Owned-Media-Overhaul.html
JohnnyClues [December 9, 2013 - 1:50 pm]: @columjaddica: according to "the no agenda show"....the 6 week cycle Is due on dec.12-13
columjaddica [December 9, 2013 - 2:36 pm]: That's interesting, I tend to think it's not on a hard schedule but I haven't really ever tried to mark it down. I'd say there are centerpiece events, large events, and small events. We get *something* every day, but some of the events are so small and bizarre that it's hard to even tell what the point is
ab [December 9, 2013 - 4:33 pm]: @JohnnyClues: good counting
JohnnyClues [December 9, 2013 - 5:39 pm]: @ab: lol...thk you sir.....exploring media fakery and counting are 2 of my passions.
Tom-Dalpra [December 9, 2013 - 5:41 pm]: what are we having for Christmas? That dark weird soap opera from last 14th lingers like a nuclear shit
Tom-Dalpra [December 9, 2013 - 5:42 pm]: can we have Gene Rosen again? He was a laugh.
Tom-Dalpra [December 9, 2013 - 5:42 pm]: some kinda skit
Tom-Dalpra [December 9, 2013 - 5:43 pm]: some kinda fuckin scat muncher
JohnnyClues [December 9, 2013 - 5:45 pm]: @Tom-Dalpra: is that the sandy hook line and stinker you are referring to? I'm sure the camera friendly tearless ones will be out in full force soon enough
JohnnyClues [December 9, 2013 - 5:47 pm]: " I could not fathom" "her face looked like stone" " I want to bring them light out of the darkness" horsepucky
Tom-Dalpra [December 9, 2013 - 5:55 pm]: haha. he brought them toys...he KNEW because he has grandchildren. He KNEW what to do at THAT time. Start fuckin' about with toys! hahahaha
JohnnyClues [December 9, 2013 - 5:58 pm]: @Tom-Dalpra: lol.....I'm convinced those were his toys, not his grandchildrens......from his "c'mere kids" collection of goodies
JohnnyClues [December 9, 2013 - 5:59 pm]: creepy old coot he was
Tom-Dalpra [December 9, 2013 - 6:00 pm]: haha that shot from in his house with all those brand knew looking toys. It's very silly really isn't it?
JohnnyClues [December 9, 2013 - 6:02 pm]: lol....yea..don't forget nutty as hell
Tom-Dalpra [December 9, 2013 - 6:03 pm]: and in sandy hook...they're going mental
JohnnyClues [December 9, 2013 - 6:03 pm]: lol for sure......remix!
columjaddica [December 9, 2013 - 6:31 pm]: Ugh, just noticed they decided to name this winter storm.
columjaddica [December 9, 2013 - 6:32 pm]: 'Winter Storm Dion'. I hate how every time there is a weather event it's presented like this has NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE
columjaddica [December 9, 2013 - 6:33 pm]: OMG ice falling off roofs, cars in fender-benders, this is almost as bad as SUPERSTORM SANDY
columjaddica [December 9, 2013 - 6:34 pm]: I'm still not sure what is a superstorm? It looked like a normal hurricane to me
ab [December 9, 2013 - 8:15 pm]: Chris has a call tonite: http://cent5.serverhostingcenter.com/start/tksnsdwc/
columjaddica [December 9, 2013 - 8:29 pm]: Listening. I disagree with them on the point that flaws in the psyops are accidental. I think some are rabbit holes and some are just sheer swagger, bragging. I'm not certain though
columjaddica [December 9, 2013 - 8:30 pm]: Obviously *some* are accidental but basic stuff like getting the date wrong? And then there was Boston which was loaded with shots of makeup being applied, when they could have done that differently and not "risked" having a "live" shot go wrong like that.
columjaddica [December 9, 2013 - 8:30 pm]: ++
columjaddica [December 9, 2013 - 8:32 pm]: I think it's all layers. They leave a bunch of different things for people to latch onto, some people latch onto the obvious, others make it a few steps deeper. But it's all illusion. They could have made Boston bombing more convincing, in every way
knagjak [December 10, 2013 - 1:31 pm]: Very glad to see a lot of small newer sites finding a way to juice their truth seeking. Would love to call in. don't have Skype or webcam at the moment. not sure if that's needed or not. Its a crazy world loads of enlightening information. Hard to sort out the lies from the truth. The power is inside all of us to be a creative powerful individual. Just have to find your path. and dont lose focus
ArmunnRigh [December 10, 2013 - 2:24 pm]: @knagjak: I believe Ab also has a phone number available to call in, if you can do it that way. Otherwise, Skype is preferable.
ArmunnRigh [December 10, 2013 - 2:26 pm]: @knagjak: Yes, it's (518) 564-0491. I suppose it's only available when the show is live, so try next saturday at 9:11 EST
ArmunnRigh [December 10, 2013 - 2:27 pm]: @knagjak: Automatic smiley, sorry. The number, according to Ab's contact page is ( 518 ) 564-0491.
JohnnyClues [December 10, 2013 - 2:55 pm]: ...And The Plot Thickens (Conrad Black Interviews Mayor Rob Ford) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuETfWr49LM (It will also be posted in "Ford scandal – distraction or real?" post)
ab [December 10, 2013 - 6:34 pm]: @knagjak: yes call in we welcome it
Tom-Dalpra [December 11, 2013 - 4:06 am]: Drone - a parasite
Tom-Dalpra [December 11, 2013 - 4:06 am]: Satellite - a. One who attends a powerful dignitary; a subordinate.
b. A subservient follower; a sycophant.
Tom-Dalpra [December 11, 2013 - 4:07 am]: sorry, thinking out loud. I better go to work.
Videre Licet [December 11, 2013 - 8:14 pm]: ab.. why do you keep playing ep. 78? It makes my head hurt
Videre Licet [December 11, 2013 - 8:16 pm]: markus allen/scott/mike/tiki/ whatever character he's playing makes him appear to be a lousy Phil Hendry wanna be.
Videre Licet [December 11, 2013 - 8:16 pm]: I think it is a huge dis-service to your audience.
Videre Licet [December 11, 2013 - 8:17 pm]: To listen to a disinfo agent go on and on trying to play multiple characters.
Videre Licet [December 11, 2013 - 8:17 pm]: Insults the intelligence of your listener.
Videre Licet [December 11, 2013 - 8:19 pm]: He (they) take up all that time on your show and say(s) nothing.
Videre Licet [December 11, 2013 - 8:20 pm]: Is this the spin into crazy? The party is over and it is on to somewhere else for some other nuggets?
Videre Licet [December 11, 2013 - 8:27 pm]: I guess the whole notion of thinkers coming together to share intelligent thought and conversation is just not on the menu. I guess the control is everywhere. :(
Videre Licet [December 11, 2013 - 8:31 pm]: ...disheartened as I move on to the next layer...
Videre Licet [December 11, 2013 - 8:49 pm]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjTXK4e925w
ab [December 11, 2013 - 9:58 pm]: @Videre Licet: s2.fakeologist.com for more variety.
Videre Licet [December 11, 2013 - 10:05 pm]: Talking to real people with authentic lives is what makes your show ab. Trimming the time with the shills would be a vast improvement. Thanks for listening.
Ravenlegend [December 11, 2013 - 10:19 pm]: Hi, any news on when the Justin.tv channel will be back?
columjaddica [December 12, 2013 - 2:39 am]: I don't know anything about this channel, it was the first video I watched, but I found it interesting. It's about the Asiana 777 crash http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzobS5vMSfo
columjaddica [December 12, 2013 - 2:40 am]: The interesting thing is that the nose of the airplane isn't damaged. The guy presenting the video doesn't understand why, but I can think of one reason, as a joke about indestructible airliner noses!
columjaddica [December 12, 2013 - 2:48 am]: They're just trying to be consistent...
ab [December 12, 2013 - 5:36 am]: @Videre Licet: understood. what shills specifically are you talking about?
columjaddica [December 12, 2013 - 6:23 am]: Hey Ab, is it alright to occasionally post things that are not *really* related to media fakery if it's not during a show? I don't want to be a spammer but I want to post about my favorite science-fiction story, which might have some symbolism in it. It's not really related to media fakery but I'd say it has something to say about symbols. It's also just plain entertaining (for a geek).
columjaddica [December 12, 2013 - 6:27 am]: I enjoy the chatroom here and wish it was more active when shows aren't live.
Jan Erik Hansen [December 12, 2013 - 8:00 am]: Sandy Hoax Surprise https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uv4-5yQL3-Q&list=FLPM0IrQTNrwzOUw9rb_AOqg&index=1
ab [December 12, 2013 - 8:21 am]: @columjaddica: I suppose as long as it's interesting. If you get no feedback you'll soon know.
ab [December 12, 2013 - 8:22 am]: I don't always make my posts about media fakery, although I like to get back to it as it's the reason for the site. My research goes all over the place as you have seen
Ravenlegend [December 12, 2013 - 12:28 pm]: What am I suppossed to be impressed about this thing? I don't see it doing anything but wasting evergy with t's chest light.
Ravenlegend [December 12, 2013 - 12:28 pm]: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fyfSvPKDJA
Ravenlegend [December 12, 2013 - 12:32 pm]: @Jan Erik Hansen He missed one of them, the girl in the middle on top was interviewed on camera as to what she "heard" She actually is one of the only ones who has changed/grew any.
Ravenlegend [December 12, 2013 - 12:32 pm]: has not*
Ravenlegend [December 12, 2013 - 12:47 pm]: THis is another interesting point fromt he same playlist you posted. https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=FLPM0IrQTNrwzOUw9rb_AOqg&feature=player_detailpage&v=kaviR4jCjMo seems legit, I don't recall seeing the mold on the roof like the in the other official videos. As soon as the video started I was like "holy crap that place is run down!"
JohnnyClues [December 12, 2013 - 1:49 pm]: @Ravenlegend: Classic Nasa ! The Chest light was the most impressive thing about it,look at that pulsing action!....I still say Robocop would kick "mr.Super Robot's" Tin Hinny! Sadly Nasa forgot to mention the 13th degree of BS.....so they are gonna put this "super robot" on "mars"? ummmm.....ok......."these robots will prepare the way for the Ass-tronauts" at a snails pace.....yawn....th
JohnnyClues [December 12, 2013 - 1:51 pm]: This belongs in "Not Another Space Anecdote's" Hall of shame.....It deserve it's spot there.
ArmunnRigh [December 12, 2013 - 2:09 pm]: @JohnnyClues: Transhumanism predictive programming, I'd say.
JohnnyClues [December 12, 2013 - 2:18 pm]: @ArmunnRigh: I do agree with you...@2:11 of the vid, I thought SuperRobot was about to bust a move and get jiggy wit it.....now that would of impressed me......Go Robo.....it's your birthday!
ArmunnRigh [December 12, 2013 - 2:21 pm]: LOL
Ravenlegend [December 12, 2013 - 2:39 pm]: You see how much crap was plugged into it as well? Is that all going to be attached to a balloon? They talk like This IS the robot 'going to mars' but all I saw it do was try really hard not to fall over while balancing on a step like object.
JohnnyClues [December 12, 2013 - 4:28 pm]: @Ravenlegend: :-) I couldn't agree more with you....Which wire is connected to the bs meter?
wanda [December 12, 2013 - 5:45 pm]: Happy HoleyDays... Enjoy this, it does not disappoint: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCgV-FnEcGQ
Tom-Dalpra [December 12, 2013 - 6:13 pm]: filth Wanda. And NASA'S robot. It's still got the fuckin Buzz Lightyear colours. Gawd 'elp us! Haha.
wanda [December 12, 2013 - 6:16 pm]: You see filth? I see refreshing honesty.
wanda [December 12, 2013 - 6:22 pm]: I see the erect monuments to monumental erections put up by the crafters of our reality as filth... i see Renaissance paining as white washed pedophilia... i do not see filth in honesty.
Tom-Dalpra [December 12, 2013 - 6:29 pm]: i stand corrected. you poet
wanda [December 12, 2013 - 6:29 pm]: LOL... :)
JohnnyClues [December 12, 2013 - 7:12 pm]: JohnnyC: I will be lighting a candle in hopes you all rot for your lies.
p.s.- You'd think Father Lewis could afford a better chapeau with all that paper he has received from donations!
http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/us/2013/12/09/sot-family-members-of-newtown-victims-speak.cnn.html
Ravenlegend [December 12, 2013 - 7:55 pm]: @Wanda LOL
Ravenlegend [December 12, 2013 - 7:59 pm]: @Johnnyclues So these people can't talk in real life? they all live in the same gd town. They can't rent the gym or Com. center once a year? Can I visit this site and see what theya re saying to each other? I don't get it.
Ravenlegend [December 12, 2013 - 8:01 pm]: Robbie parker looks like clay aiken now..
Tom-Dalpra [December 12, 2013 - 8:03 pm]: it's a procession of weird characters, that's for sure. My favourite is lil'' Jesse's Dad. The twitching mobster.
Tom-Dalpra [December 12, 2013 - 8:06 pm]: Then there's an advert for that NASA robot. CNN - What a shiny vessel of shit
Ravenlegend [December 12, 2013 - 8:09 pm]: LOL
Ravenlegend [December 12, 2013 - 8:10 pm]: It looks like a japanese cartoon
Ravenlegend [December 12, 2013 - 8:10 pm]: those yellow things? chords? antennta? Redneck tie straps?
Ravenlegend [December 12, 2013 - 8:12 pm]: I like Grace's Mom, shes got idle bitch face, yet manages to look happy when shes sad.
Ravenlegend [December 12, 2013 - 8:12 pm]: intriging
Ravenlegend [December 12, 2013 - 8:13 pm]: she also says the word grace in a way that makes her face smile.
JohnnyClues [December 12, 2013 - 8:36 pm]: @wanda: no disappointment in that vid.
JohnnyClues [December 12, 2013 - 8:37 pm]: @Ravenlegend: yea really, all lined up in single file to yammer about their candles....like that wasn't scripted as well lol....nah i guess they keep that cash for themselves, proven by Father Lewis' Hat.
They all resembled sheep in single file awaiting their "cabbage / money" dinner.
JohnnyClues [December 12, 2013 - 8:37 pm]: @Ravenlegend: Clay would kick Parker @ss
JohnnyClues [December 12, 2013 - 8:38 pm]: @Tom-Dalpra: lol sadly no "mean gene" for you Tom....he musta been busy with his toys to say he'd light a candle.....ya know..."outta the darkness".
Ravenlegend [December 12, 2013 - 8:39 pm]: @JonnyClues Lets Book Clay vs Robbie vs Uncle grandpa Gene at Wrestlemania 30.
Ravenlegend [December 12, 2013 - 8:40 pm]: wtf...... Affluenza are these people for real? http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/83729087/
JohnnyClues [December 12, 2013 - 8:41 pm]: @Ravenlegend: Let's get ready to ruuuuuuuuuuumble!
JohnnyClues [December 12, 2013 - 8:44 pm]: @Tom-Dalpra: :-) @ - What a shiny vessel of sh*t
Tom-Dalpra [December 13, 2013 - 6:30 am]: haha@JohnnyClues and Ravenlegend, no Gene! What he died by the second series? This fuckin cardboard soap opera has legs. Unlike Boston, which hasn't anymore! It's a mad world down there in sandy..,
smj [December 13, 2013 - 11:07 am]: i'm certain he's an actor, i doubt he's a writer. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1gjXSMmrHI
columjaddica [December 13, 2013 - 7:44 pm]: On today's "school shooting" in Centennial, CO. Worth noting that Centennial was only incorporated in 2001, and borders Littleton and Aurora. AB, one of the contributors over on my forum has some interesting observations about this shooting and some first-hand observations about an active-shooter drill one month ago at nearby Englewood High School. It's on the top of the page if you get time
columjaddica [December 13, 2013 - 8:01 pm]: Some of Centennial's largest employers are 'National CineMedia' and 'United Launch Alliance'
Jan Erik Hansen [December 13, 2013 - 9:00 pm]: PROPAGANDA
The Formation
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f Mens Attitudes
BY
JACQUES ELLUL http://monoskop.org/images/4/44/Ellul_Jacques_Propaganda_The_Formation_of_Mens_Attitudes.pdf
Jan Erik Hansen [December 13, 2013 - 9:02 pm]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ev04HBx-ljc
ArmunnRigh [December 13, 2013 - 9:08 pm]: Ahoy there, mateys!
wanda [December 13, 2013 - 9:20 pm]: Ahoy.
wanda [December 13, 2013 - 9:21 pm]: Is it cold in Portugal... chilled to the bone here.
columjaddica [December 13, 2013 - 9:22 pm]: I really think the weather hoax is moving to the next stage with this network of "resilient" cities Rockefeller is building. Although the action has been mostly lame so far. Boulder's response promoting "resilience" after the flooding was to install works of art around the city...
ArmunnRigh [December 13, 2013 - 9:24 pm]: @wanda: sitting next to the heater and under the cat, so don't feel it too much - but yes, chilly for Portugal :)
wanda [December 13, 2013 - 9:28 pm]: @columjaddica: LOL... that'll do it.
wanda [December 13, 2013 - 9:30 pm]: Well... i'm going to listen to the show from under the covers. Won't contribute much, if at all. Still trying to heal...
ArmunnRigh [December 13, 2013 - 9:31 pm]: Get well soon, Wanda, for real
wanda [December 13, 2013 - 9:32 pm]: Thank you.
wanda [December 13, 2013 - 9:37 pm]: @columjaddica: One thought, about the art... The monumental erections that be are erecting the monuments. Marking their territory... if you will. It would suck to be Boulder... used to be a nice town.
columjaddica [December 13, 2013 - 9:39 pm]: Boulder is really something else... It's gonna be fun to follow the new "Resiliency Manager" they've been assigned. Here's another funny resiliency story http://www.dailycamera.com/religion/ci_24641534/resilience-prominent-theme-boulder-menorah-lighting-crocs-sponsor
Rollo [December 13, 2013 - 9:42 pm]: Howdy Howdy Howdy
wanda [December 13, 2013 - 9:42 pm]: Very interesting... along the lines of how they are turning the red part of the santa hats ISREAL blue. I can't even watch that sh*t... how do people not notice that?
ArmunnRigh [December 13, 2013 - 9:43 pm]: Ahoy there! ARRR!
wanda [December 13, 2013 - 9:45 pm]: No one out there saying WTF? After Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF.
columjaddica [December 13, 2013 - 9:46 pm]: lol
ArmunnRigh [December 13, 2013 - 9:46 pm]: @wanda: They are making santa's hat blue?
columjaddica [December 13, 2013 - 9:47 pm]: stream die?
columjaddica [December 13, 2013 - 9:47 pm]: nm, got it back
Rollo [December 13, 2013 - 9:48 pm]: wont change his mind no matter what..that what we're up against
wanda [December 13, 2013 - 9:48 pm]: Yep... they are. I reckon i am going to have to go find an ad now... BRB
Rollo [December 13, 2013 - 9:56 pm]: I like the pretty girls he took pictures of :)
wanda [December 13, 2013 - 9:56 pm]: And of course, i can't find one now that i'm looking. You'll see it, tis the season... usually at the beginning of YouTube vids and such.
columjaddica [December 13, 2013 - 9:57 pm]: If they've run out of steam, it makes me think about something Tom from CT said on the recent Realist Report. This is not an exact quote but basically: "If they lose the power of illusion or mind-control then the only thing they have left is direct violence".
ArmunnRigh [December 13, 2013 - 9:57 pm]: I'm sure it'll barge in uninvited into a web browser soon
ArmunnRigh [December 13, 2013 - 9:58 pm]: @columjaddica: They would prefer the people to apply the violence themselves first, to show how their violence is so needed
columjaddica [December 13, 2013 - 9:59 pm]: I hope it doesn't come to widespread violence but sometimes I wonder... has the future always looked this ominous?
wanda [December 13, 2013 - 10:00 pm]: I don't think it has always looked that way. It has looked that way for me for eight years now... it has always felt that way...
wanda [December 13, 2013 - 10:01 pm]: I think we can all feel it to one extent or another... even for the square pegs trying to fit in the round holes.
columjaddica [December 13, 2013 - 10:02 pm]: Everything looked differently to me starting exactly a year ago. I feel a lot of implied threats in the news, it's as if they say "This is reality, and it requires a complete overhaul of society and the whole planet, right now. Don't try to challenge the "facts" and you wont have to have conflict with us"
JohnnyClues [December 13, 2013 - 10:02 pm]: lol
JohnnyClues [December 13, 2013 - 10:03 pm]: @the crickets
wanda [December 13, 2013 - 10:03 pm]: Interesting Colum... thank you for sharing that. No one in your life, no one like me, perhaps, constantly agitating... constantly begging you to see?
wanda [December 13, 2013 - 10:05 pm]: How is that logical... you ARE told not to look there.
wanda [December 13, 2013 - 10:05 pm]: Jew Suits.
columjaddica [December 13, 2013 - 10:05 pm]: No, actually I was a conspiracy theorist since 2002 or so, but started looking at it a lot differently a year ago. Started digging into details of stories myself rather than just being a consumer of alternative media
wanda [December 13, 2013 - 10:05 pm]: They are jews... they wear yarmulka.
wanda [December 13, 2013 - 10:06 pm]: That's what i did... went farther and farther and farther back into history. Even studied Latin... it was the Latin that did it.
wanda [December 13, 2013 - 10:09 pm]: Symbology helps... immensely.
wanda [December 13, 2013 - 10:09 pm]: Yay... Armunn.
columjaddica [December 13, 2013 - 10:09 pm]: It was basically Sandy Hook that forced me to look at everything differently. I mean, I still can't believe they tried to pass that off. They've really been bungling idiots for the past year and sometimes I wonder if that's intentional
ArmunnRigh [December 13, 2013 - 10:09 pm]: Skype keeps dropping me :-P
wanda [December 13, 2013 - 10:11 pm]: I think you're meant to think it's intentional.
columjaddica [December 13, 2013 - 10:12 pm]: Yeah, I've considered several options like that. It's certainly strange though
wanda [December 13, 2013 - 10:12 pm]: So when the A-Holes ride in on their white horses to save the day you'll welcome them with open brains.
JohnnyClues [December 13, 2013 - 10:12 pm]: @columjaddica: same here and I wonder the same at times....how could they be so pathetic
wanda [December 13, 2013 - 10:13 pm]: They are being very obvious because they want to make sure no one misses it.
JohnnyClues [December 13, 2013 - 10:14 pm]: possibly for giggles too......just laughing it up, cause they get away with it
wanda [December 13, 2013 - 10:14 pm]: When all the TV land viewers scream for change... that's what we'll get...
columjaddica [December 13, 2013 - 10:14 pm]: The last straw for me was the dummy in the LAX thing. I mean, they KNOW there are communities of people looking for this stuff now. Playing with fire
wanda [December 13, 2013 - 10:15 pm]: @columjaddica: Well... you do seem to be all the way awake... IMO
JohnnyClues [December 13, 2013 - 10:16 pm]: agreed Rollo.....sticks and stones they threw most the time
wanda [December 13, 2013 - 10:16 pm]: Consider the source... no one likes those guys... Christian Identity is a joke...
Jan Erik Hansen [December 13, 2013 - 10:17 pm]: To begin with, what is it that propaganda males disappear? Everything to the nature of critical and personal judgment. Obviously, propaganda limits the application of thought It limits the propaganda's field of thought to the extent that rt provides him with ready-made (and, moreover, unreal) thought* and stereotypes,
ab [December 13, 2013 - 10:17 pm]: i think the stream is cutting in and out...apologies
Jan Erik Hansen [December 13, 2013 - 10:17 pm]: http://monoskop.org/images/4/44/Ellul_Jacques_Propaganda_The_Formation_of_Mens_Attitudes.pdf
ab [December 13, 2013 - 10:17 pm]: http://fakeologist.com/forums/topic/left-vs-right/
ArmunnRigh [December 13, 2013 - 10:18 pm]: http://fakeologist.com/forums/topic/left-vs-right/
wanda [December 13, 2013 - 10:35 pm]: Good points Armunn... you are meant to see it. Like the fake news.
ArmunnRigh [December 13, 2013 - 10:42 pm]: @wanda: thx
wanda [December 13, 2013 - 10:46 pm]: It's black and white and READ all over.
ArmunnRigh [December 13, 2013 - 10:46 pm]: ah! like a newspaper
columjaddica [December 13, 2013 - 10:46 pm]: Do you think that fake violence and fake narratives have to be provided to prevent real violence?
columjaddica [December 13, 2013 - 10:46 pm]: That this is the way it HAS to be?
ArmunnRigh [December 13, 2013 - 10:46 pm]: no, to provoke real violence
wanda [December 13, 2013 - 10:47 pm]: I think real violence is inevitable. I think the fake violence is to forestall it, to put a sense of dread into people.
columjaddica [December 13, 2013 - 10:47 pm]: Ah, imagine a world with no news. People went to work today, went to movies, some people died of old age, dinner's ready!
wanda [December 13, 2013 - 10:49 pm]: That's all i ever wanted Colum.
columjaddica [December 13, 2013 - 10:50 pm]: I don't know, I might get bored and start causing problems...
wanda [December 13, 2013 - 10:52 pm]: And that's okay... i don't think you'd cause the kid of trouble we're looking at... believe me, i'm no angel.
columjaddica [December 13, 2013 - 10:52 pm]: I just think we'll always be dealing with these problems
wanda [December 13, 2013 - 10:53 pm]: A parasitic race on the planet? If we are, we won't survive it... we can't.
columjaddica [December 13, 2013 - 10:54 pm]: Well, they are a mind-virus, and if you somehow removed them there would be groups fighting to re-fill the role
ArmunnRigh [December 13, 2013 - 10:55 pm]: a mind-virus indeed
wanda [December 13, 2013 - 10:57 pm]: They are not a mind virus... they created themselves through an anomaly... centuries of in breeding. That takes it out of mind and into the physical. They did that... that is what all the blood-line crap is all about.
wanda [December 13, 2013 - 10:57 pm]: Their cruelty is hybridized... cultivated, selected.
wanda [December 13, 2013 - 10:59 pm]: Natural, non inbred humanity runs toward altruistic... same with the animal kingdom, of which we are a part of.
JohnnyClues [December 13, 2013 - 10:59 pm]: good for you rollo!
ArmunnRigh [December 13, 2013 - 11:00 pm]: it may have started that way, but that's no longer the factor, wanda. The parasite lies in all our minds already
columjaddica [December 13, 2013 - 11:00 pm]: I don't think they are the only ones in on this, not downplaying their role. The elites from several other cultures have learned a lot from them and I don't think the tactics are ever going away
wanda [December 13, 2013 - 11:01 pm]: I would agree that the mind virus has affected the rest of humanity... but it is not a genetic trait, it is a falling away from morality due to the infiltration of education and medias.
wanda [December 13, 2013 - 11:02 pm]: It is the genetic trait that is the problem... the non genetic can be re-programmed... not so the other type.
ArmunnRigh [December 13, 2013 - 11:03 pm]: genes do not control their activation, context does
wanda [December 13, 2013 - 11:03 pm]: The elites, from any culture, if you take a closer look at them... are all blood line related.
ArmunnRigh [December 13, 2013 - 11:03 pm]: The hand of Vengeance found the Bed
To which the Purple Tyrant fled
The iron hand crushd the Tyrants head
And became a Tyrant in his stead
wanda [December 13, 2013 - 11:05 pm]: All the world problems, historically and now, emerge from the same source: The Jews, the self-chosen race/religion that places itself above all others on this planet. The Jew is defined by his belief in the Talmud. Anyone who believes in the Talmud is a homicidal maniac, and is therefore, insane. Unless and until we can openly address this problem, we are as good as dead and many of us are already
wanda [December 13, 2013 - 11:06 pm]: many of us are already dead due to things going on in our bodies from modified and poisoned foods, poisoned water, chem-trails, vaccines and doctors exacerbating these problems with phony medicines.
ArmunnRigh [December 13, 2013 - 11:06 pm]: all that the jews did and do, they did not achieve alone
wanda [December 13, 2013 - 11:07 pm]: Through the false curriculum in schools and the media, medicines and foods that diminish populations and brain function, people's ability to think has been shut down. We are rapidly moving into abject poverty where they will exercise their number one murder weapon... starvation.
wanda [December 13, 2013 - 11:09 pm]: They are the instigators... kicked out of 109 places and counting.
wanda [December 13, 2013 - 11:09 pm]: Ascribe that to any other group of people.
ArmunnRigh [December 13, 2013 - 11:10 pm]: I do not, I simply do not let the "victims" off the hook
wanda [December 13, 2013 - 11:11 pm]: I do not propose letting ayone off the hook... but tell me what other race has been kicked out of anywhere? http://www.subvertednation.net/jew-lists/jewish-expulsions-and-exiles/
columjaddica [December 13, 2013 - 11:11 pm]: I'm still reading it, but The Controversy of Zion by Douglas Reed is a really good book on the history of Judaism. It can be expensive on Amazon but PDFs are available online. It's pretty in-depth
columjaddica [December 13, 2013 - 11:12 pm]: Actually, it's not exactly about Judaism, but Zionism and politics
ArmunnRigh [December 13, 2013 - 11:12 pm]: I disagree that they're a race
wanda [December 13, 2013 - 11:13 pm]: Since WWII all jews are zionists... all zionists are jews. That is why you had jews in the ghetto putting other jews into camps. Those were the jews that would not go along with the program... who were loyal to Germany.
wanda [December 13, 2013 - 11:14 pm]: And i sure would feel better if we had some jews speaking out... one would think it would be easy since they own the media... and they do.
wanda [December 13, 2013 - 11:15 pm]: I think it insanity to feel you need to go to bat for the one people who are uniquely positioned to stick up for themselves... why not let them... why not make them?
ArmunnRigh [December 13, 2013 - 11:16 pm]: is that last one for me, wanda?
wanda [December 13, 2013 - 11:17 pm]: It was for everyone... everyone feels the need to stick up for the jews. Why is that?
ArmunnRigh [December 13, 2013 - 11:17 pm]: I don't, so I'm not everyone
wanda [December 13, 2013 - 11:18 pm]: Then you are excluded.
columjaddica [December 13, 2013 - 11:20 pm]: Thanks for the show! Been on a radio kick lately, really enjoying checking out various shows, this is my favorite!
wanda [December 13, 2013 - 11:20 pm]: We are programmed that the jews can't be criticized... so we fall in line... meanwhile there is no other race or religion on earth with a similar taboo. Please explain to me how that works?
Rollo [December 13, 2013 - 11:20 pm]: thanx ab....
wanda [December 13, 2013 - 11:20 pm]: Cognitive dissonance?
Rollo [December 13, 2013 - 11:21 pm]: Im revovering from it Wanda
ab [December 13, 2013 - 11:21 pm]: Thanks @rollo, @armunnRigh
Rollo [December 13, 2013 - 11:21 pm]: Cog Dis that is
ArmunnRigh [December 13, 2013 - 11:21 pm]: thanks ab
Rollo [December 13, 2013 - 11:21 pm]: hopefully im not too dull...sober
ab [December 13, 2013 - 11:22 pm]: @wanda: can you listen to the mysterybabylon series and tell me if you're still convinced it's da Jooz?
wanda [December 13, 2013 - 11:22 pm]: It isn't easy Rollo... we're in a fight for our lives... literally.
JohnnyClues [December 13, 2013 - 11:23 pm]: @ab: do you have a link to that Ab?
Rollo [December 13, 2013 - 11:23 pm]: take it one moment at a time....you'll be right mate
ab [December 13, 2013 - 11:23 pm]: @wanda: listen to some of Alan Lomont as well, and Robin's Youtube. Give it an honest shake.
wanda [December 13, 2013 - 11:23 pm]: Ab... i listened to the Mystery Babylon series years ago... several times. Bill Cooper was constantly evolving.... i believe if he were alive now, he would be calling out the jews.
wanda [December 13, 2013 - 11:24 pm]: I'm positive its the jews.
ab [December 13, 2013 - 11:24 pm]: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/mysterybabylon
JohnnyClues [December 13, 2013 - 11:24 pm]: thks
ArmunnRigh [December 13, 2013 - 11:24 pm]: @ab: Lomont's take is as convincing as any other, because if you can see it, it isn't the end of the string
Rollo [December 13, 2013 - 11:24 pm]: I listened to Armuns portuguese poetry...dont understand a word...but i like the version of bohemian rhap
ab [December 13, 2013 - 11:25 pm]: @ArmunnRigh: yes I'm ok with that
JohnnyClues [December 13, 2013 - 11:25 pm]: @Rollo: armunn's poetry is good stuff
Rollo [December 13, 2013 - 11:26 pm]: yup
Rollo [December 13, 2013 - 11:26 pm]: Its on my daily goal list,,,,learn portugese :)...remember Arnold Rimmer
ArmunnRigh [December 13, 2013 - 11:26 pm]: @wanda: I'm positive it's the jews as I'm also positive it's the masons and all the other groups of supposed hidden power. I just think they are not the end of the line. They are put there to convert people or disable their revolt.
ab [December 13, 2013 - 11:26 pm]: @wanda: check that link I just posted. If you're mind is made up, then I guess you can stop looking and relax
ArmunnRigh [December 13, 2013 - 11:27 pm]: @Rollo: @JohnnyClues: thanks guys! :P Now I have an international audience
Rollo [December 13, 2013 - 11:27 pm]: you bet
JohnnyClues [December 13, 2013 - 11:27 pm]: @ArmunnRigh: lol yep
ArmunnRigh [December 13, 2013 - 11:28 pm]: @Rollo: want me to teach you all the curse words first? :D
wanda [December 13, 2013 - 11:28 pm]: Here's a better Bill Cooper archive... the Lost Light series, IMO, is even better than Mystery Babylon... or is, at least, lends much to Mystery Babylon: http://remnantradio.org/Archives/articles/William%20Cooper/WC.htm
Rollo [December 13, 2013 - 11:29 pm]: how am I going to woo those beautiful portuguese women with curse words mate?
wanda [December 13, 2013 - 11:29 pm]: It's your one stop Bill Cooper archive... it's got all of him in one spot.
ArmunnRigh [December 13, 2013 - 11:29 pm]: @Rollo: oh so you want the charming lines then? :D
Rollo [December 13, 2013 - 11:29 pm]: now you're talking...
JohnnyClues [December 13, 2013 - 11:29 pm]: @ArmunnRigh: sounds much more useful
wanda [December 13, 2013 - 11:30 pm]: Vous les vous couche avec soir?
Rollo [December 13, 2013 - 11:30 pm]: my wife might object to me learning them tho
wanda [December 13, 2013 - 11:30 pm]: avec moi... doh !!
ArmunnRigh [December 13, 2013 - 11:30 pm]: that's french! :P
wanda [December 13, 2013 - 11:30 pm]: ain't that the truth.
Rollo [December 13, 2013 - 11:30 pm]: I could always learn the cursde words and say them to her in a loving tone :).....
ArmunnRigh [December 13, 2013 - 11:30 pm]: @Rollo: see? the curse words are useful too then
Rollo [December 13, 2013 - 11:30 pm]: heh
Rollo [December 13, 2013 - 11:31 pm]: that would be deception and we are against that arnt we ;)
ArmunnRigh [December 13, 2013 - 11:31 pm]: lol
wanda [December 13, 2013 - 11:31 pm]: harmless deceptions are fun...
wanda [December 13, 2013 - 11:32 pm]: we love our amusements.
ArmunnRigh [December 13, 2013 - 11:32 pm]: "anything one says in bed is not to be taken seriously"
wanda [December 13, 2013 - 11:32 pm]: or laughed at.
wanda [December 13, 2013 - 11:32 pm]: LOL
Rollo [December 13, 2013 - 11:32 pm]: good stuff..im off for walk in the black forest....always nice to chat...bye for now
ArmunnRigh [December 13, 2013 - 11:32 pm]: :D
ArmunnRigh [December 13, 2013 - 11:32 pm]: see ya Rollo!
JohnnyClues [December 13, 2013 - 11:33 pm]: bye rollo
Rollo [December 13, 2013 - 11:33 pm]: cheers
wanda [December 13, 2013 - 11:33 pm]: Bye Rolls... hat's off to your dis-cognation.
ArmunnRigh [December 13, 2013 - 11:33 pm]: I'm off too, guys, it's late
wanda [December 13, 2013 - 11:33 pm]: i stayed up... surprised me self... Nite all.
JohnnyClues [December 13, 2013 - 11:33 pm]: see ya armunn
ArmunnRigh [December 13, 2013 - 11:34 pm]: a pleasure being with you people
JohnnyClues [December 13, 2013 - 11:34 pm]: bye wanda
ArmunnRigh [December 13, 2013 - 11:34 pm]: see ya johnny
ArmunnRigh [December 13, 2013 - 11:34 pm]: see ya wanda
wanda [December 13, 2013 - 11:34 pm]: :)
columjaddica [December 13, 2013 - 11:34 pm]: later y'all
JohnnyClues [December 13, 2013 - 11:35 pm]: see ya columjaddica
columjaddica [December 14, 2013 - 4:34 am]: I don't know if I ever posted this here or not, but looking at it again I still think it's a great pic. http://imgur.com/6XUPJ9q
columjaddica [December 14, 2013 - 4:37 am]: It's from 11/22 or 11/23, scare at LAX. "Active Shooter scenario". Turned out to be a car that wrecked (they provided a picture) outside of the terminal. Then a bit later turned out to be that + a caller that reported a shooter in the terminal. Anyways, the numbers are fun, especially on the left side of the pic...
columjaddica [December 14, 2013 - 4:38 am]: Also, it looks to me to be damn hard to tell apart from some levels in some Call of Duty and Battlefield games. I don't play them a lot but the style of everything just matches. Hard to tell apart
ArmunnRigh [December 14, 2013 - 5:29 am]: @columjaddica: It does appear VR
columjaddica [December 14, 2013 - 5:40 am]: I've been listening to Mystery Babylon, I know I tried listening before but wasnt ready
columjaddica [December 14, 2013 - 5:41 am]: After 3 programs, I've heard things that explain memes I am seeing a lot
columjaddica [December 14, 2013 - 5:41 am]: Sorry, I mean William Cooper's Mystery Babylo series
columjaddica [December 14, 2013 - 6:58 am]: It is leaving me with more questions than answers, and it might always be that way, the simple fact that William Cooper can talk about this implies (to me) that he was allowed to. And the recordings can still be found easily. That's the nature of this, there is no way to know when the layers stop
columjaddica [December 14, 2013 - 7:03 am]: I came at all of this from a strange position. Finding that minor details of stories didn't add up. To go from something technical like that to mystery religions is a strange experience. To hear Cooper say that 2011 (or not long after) is the start of a new era, when I've been struggling with the idea that they are making many aspects of the psyops blatantly obvious the past year.
columjaddica [December 14, 2013 - 7:04 am]: I don't think I'm special, something feels like it changed a year ago. Confirmation bias, lol, it's everywhere now.
columjaddica [December 14, 2013 - 7:08 am]: I suppose that anybody that was interested in 9/11 was obsessed with details. Myself included, I tried out all kinds of theories that didn't make sense, but then Sandy Hook came along and framed everything differently. When it comes to details you can follow the rabbit hole but then you separate yourself from the people you are trying to influence. Hmm, need to find a better ay to word that
ab [December 14, 2013 - 8:08 am]: @ArmunnRigh: there is now a recent topics list below. thanks for your help
ArmunnRigh [December 14, 2013 - 8:51 am]: @ab: if you do a show tonight, me and Jan Erik have some thoughts to contribute, if you like.
JohnnyClues [December 14, 2013 - 12:32 pm]: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=va7dPaVtjRQ
ArmunnRigh [December 14, 2013 - 1:47 pm]: @JohnnyClues: Interesting
ab [December 14, 2013 - 3:03 pm]: @ArmunnRigh: ok I will schedule one if you would like
ab [December 14, 2013 - 3:03 pm]: @ArmunnRigh: we can call it European hour
ArmunnRigh [December 14, 2013 - 3:55 pm]: @ab: LOL - that's a nice name :D So you mean tonight at 9:11 your time?
ab [December 14, 2013 - 4:44 pm]: @ArmunnRigh: yes
ArmunnRigh [December 14, 2013 - 4:51 pm]: @ab: deal
javaring [December 14, 2013 - 7:30 pm]: B)
Videre Licet [December 14, 2013 - 7:42 pm]: :o)
Videre Licet [December 14, 2013 - 8:04 pm]: 61 f in los angeles
Rollo [December 14, 2013 - 8:15 pm]: 74.38 Degrees here Videre (hold on 7+4= ... I'll stop now)>:-D
Videre Licet [December 14, 2013 - 8:21 pm]: 61 is 7
Videre Licet [December 14, 2013 - 8:21 pm]: Crappy network connection tonight
Rollo [December 14, 2013 - 8:21 pm]: 7 is lords number
Rollo [December 14, 2013 - 8:22 pm]: im more 666 because im devilishly hansome
Videre Licet [December 14, 2013 - 8:22 pm]: Whose is 7-11?
Rollo [December 14, 2013 - 8:24 pm]: got me
Tom-Dalpra [December 14, 2013 - 8:25 pm]: hey Rollo. How you doing?
Rollo [December 14, 2013 - 8:25 pm]: Clean ans Sober
Rollo [December 14, 2013 - 8:26 pm]: and
Tom-Dalpra [December 14, 2013 - 8:26 pm]: really?
Rollo [December 14, 2013 - 8:26 pm]: you?
Rollo [December 14, 2013 - 8:26 pm]: yup since the 23 November
Rollo [December 14, 2013 - 8:26 pm]: try ing to stay on the wagon for good this time
Tom-Dalpra [December 14, 2013 - 8:29 pm]: I got benefit from using the 'one day at a time' mantra. And 'keep it simple'.
Tom-Dalpra [December 14, 2013 - 8:30 pm]: my favourite people are addictive personalities. Just like me :-)
Tom-Dalpra [December 14, 2013 - 8:30 pm]: makes me happy to hear that Rolls.
Rollo [December 14, 2013 - 8:30 pm]: good on you...I remember your good advice you gave that day....
Rollo [December 14, 2013 - 8:31 pm]: It was a cracker of a call that one i seem to remember
Videre Licet [December 14, 2013 - 8:35 pm]: Congrats Rollo! Hang in there. Stay connected.
Tom-Dalpra [December 14, 2013 - 8:35 pm]: yep. That rocks rolls
Tom-Dalpra [December 14, 2013 - 8:36 pm]: big respect to a man who is clearly a nutter but has a grip! - just like me again!
Rollo [December 14, 2013 - 8:37 pm]: cheers, I had several Pan Galactic Gargle blasters on the 22nd (JfK's 50th) ...
Tom-Dalpra [December 14, 2013 - 8:40 pm]: I had several imaginary shots in memory
Rollo [December 14, 2013 - 8:41 pm]: back and to the left
ArmunnRigh [December 14, 2013 - 8:54 pm]: Ahoy!
Tom-Dalpra [December 14, 2013 - 8:54 pm]: Aha!
Tom-Dalpra [December 14, 2013 - 8:56 pm]: I may catch an hour of the deep tones of yourself and Jan Erik tonight...just finished a gig. 1:56am uk
ArmunnRigh [December 14, 2013 - 8:57 pm]: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rF4LarAU6YE :D
Tom-Dalpra [December 14, 2013 - 9:10 pm]: :)
JohnnyClues [December 14, 2013 - 9:12 pm]: hi all.......@rollo....stick with it good on you!
Rollo [December 14, 2013 - 9:13 pm]: will do JC
ab [December 14, 2013 - 9:22 pm]: 828 caller I will bring you on in a minute
Tom-Dalpra [December 14, 2013 - 9:24 pm]: Is it cutting in and out for everyone? I can't listen properly. It's pulsing in and out.
Jan Erik Hansen [December 14, 2013 - 9:24 pm]: http://www.monoskop.org/images/4/44/Ellul_Jacques_Propaganda_The_Formation_of_Mens_Attitudes.pdf
Rollo [December 14, 2013 - 9:24 pm]: all good here
ArmunnRigh [December 14, 2013 - 9:24 pm]: yes, here too, Tom
JohnnyClues [December 14, 2013 - 9:24 pm]: it did that a few times yesterday for me Tom......just had to refresh the page
Tom-Dalpra [December 14, 2013 - 9:25 pm]: ok thks R
Tom-Dalpra [December 14, 2013 - 9:25 pm]: thanks
aralsea [December 14, 2013 - 9:25 pm]: Two nuclear test craters next to each other http://www.underwaterkwaj.com/enew/runit.htm
Anders-Lindman [December 14, 2013 - 9:28 pm]: @aralsea: Caused by something like this: 100 tons of TNT -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VANyY87-_Q
aralsea [December 14, 2013 - 9:30 pm]: @Anders-Lindman: Most likely, just saw a doc on RT about micronesia testing.
aralsea [December 14, 2013 - 9:46 pm]: Propoganda? http://l2.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/wCCL0GJOjIR01ChFOni5RQ--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NQ--/http://media.zenfs.com/en-CA/blogs/canadapolitics/Harper-Christmas-card.jpg
Tom-Dalpra [December 14, 2013 - 9:49 pm]: gotta love the professionalism haha the birds!
JohnnyClues [December 14, 2013 - 9:49 pm]: @aralsea: even the family pet? wishing a merry one
Tom-Dalpra [December 14, 2013 - 9:50 pm]: jingle bells
aralsea [December 14, 2013 - 9:51 pm]: His entire set of Christmas cards here http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/canada-politics/stephen-harper-christmas-card-photo-featured-awkward-family-192035303.html
JohnnyClues [December 14, 2013 - 9:52 pm]: @aralsea: a whole set? lotta free time harper has
Tom-Dalpra [December 14, 2013 - 9:52 pm]: hey, it's alright. it is amateur. it's real
aralsea [December 14, 2013 - 9:52 pm]: 2006-2013
aralsea [December 14, 2013 - 9:53 pm]: Star Trek V
Tom-Dalpra [December 14, 2013 - 9:53 pm]: dontcha worry Tim son
Bootleg_Bill [December 14, 2013 - 9:53 pm]: all good Ab.
Tom-Dalpra [December 14, 2013 - 9:54 pm]: let's all call in now ! haha
Rollo [December 14, 2013 - 9:55 pm]: wicked
JohnnyClues [December 14, 2013 - 9:55 pm]: new record----> Most users online were 50, on December 14, 2013 @ 4:39 pm
Tom-Dalpra [December 14, 2013 - 9:58 pm]: remember the day. maybe get gene rosen in to do a skit to celebrate.
Rollo [December 14, 2013 - 9:58 pm]: rationality is overated..just ask the prothinkers
Tom-Dalpra [December 14, 2013 - 9:58 pm]: prothink-oxymoronic
Rollo [December 14, 2013 - 10:02 pm]: Armunn said reptilian..he isnt going to spin us into Icke
Anders-Lindman [December 14, 2013 - 10:03 pm]: reptilian?! that's straw man propaganda!!! :D
Tom-Dalpra [December 14, 2013 - 10:03 pm]: did he? haha Jan was calling people evil. That wouldn't be my language either.
ArmunnRigh [December 14, 2013 - 10:04 pm]: reptilian brain, that's what I meant dudes!
Rollo [December 14, 2013 - 10:04 pm]: all good
ArmunnRigh [December 14, 2013 - 10:05 pm]: B)
Tom-Dalpra [December 14, 2013 - 10:05 pm]: i didn't hear it Armunn haha. all good as Rollo says. I love Jan Erik, just the language.
ArmunnRigh [December 14, 2013 - 10:06 pm]: want me to curse in portuguese? He'll reply in norwegian and that should make a show all by itself
Jan Erik Hansen [December 14, 2013 - 10:06 pm]: :)
ArmunnRigh [December 14, 2013 - 10:07 pm]: now for a word from our sponsors
Tom-Dalpra [December 14, 2013 - 10:07 pm]: lovely boy
Jan Erik Hansen [December 14, 2013 - 10:08 pm]: :idea:
Anders-Lindman [December 14, 2013 - 10:12 pm]: zappa
Rollo [December 14, 2013 - 10:12 pm]: Have lost the host?
Tom-Dalpra [December 14, 2013 - 10:14 pm]: riveting stuff.
Dustyash [December 14, 2013 - 10:14 pm]: Weird night tonight
Bootleg_Bill [December 14, 2013 - 10:15 pm]: can not hear on this end. i hear jan. but not Ab
Tom-Dalpra [December 14, 2013 - 10:15 pm]: same
Rollo [December 14, 2013 - 10:15 pm]: Jan lights up
Anders-Lindman [December 14, 2013 - 10:15 pm]: hostless show
Dustyash [December 14, 2013 - 10:15 pm]: how is everybody hope I can call in and say hi but the system appears to be still in its primitive stage
JohnnyClues [December 14, 2013 - 10:15 pm]: I hear Jan, Armuun and I think his names is Tyler.......but no Abirato
Tom-Dalpra [December 14, 2013 - 10:16 pm]: they're there just noone leading it. the host has gone
JohnnyClues [December 14, 2013 - 10:16 pm]: hi dusty
Dustyash [December 14, 2013 - 10:16 pm]: yeah same
Rollo [December 14, 2013 - 10:16 pm]: He's back
Tom-Dalpra [December 14, 2013 - 10:16 pm]: in the room again
ab [December 14, 2013 - 10:16 pm]: ok I'm back. technical hell tonite
Bootleg_Bill [December 14, 2013 - 10:17 pm]: no thing. this call made my Sat night
Jan Erik Hansen [December 14, 2013 - 10:17 pm]: He is coming back. He is working on it right now.
Tom-Dalpra [December 14, 2013 - 10:18 pm]: abs very loud compared to the others. abs level is too high for me
Bootleg_Bill [December 14, 2013 - 10:18 pm]: same here
smj [December 14, 2013 - 10:19 pm]: ditto
Tom-Dalpra [December 14, 2013 - 10:19 pm]: haha
Anders-Lindman [December 14, 2013 - 10:19 pm]: ab has much louder volume than the guests
Tom-Dalpra [December 14, 2013 - 10:19 pm]: ride the dial like a rodeo
Rollo [December 14, 2013 - 10:20 pm]: abs at 11
Tom-Dalpra [December 14, 2013 - 10:20 pm]: hahaahaha
Tom-Dalpra [December 14, 2013 - 10:21 pm]: jan erik live from norway
ab [December 14, 2013 - 10:22 pm]: @Anders-Lindman: as it should be!~
ab [December 14, 2013 - 10:22 pm]: !
Anders-Lindman [December 14, 2013 - 10:22 pm]: @ab: ok
Bootleg_Bill [December 14, 2013 - 10:24 pm]: The guest volume is very low. but still hearable. "there are no victims in this game" great quote Armunn
Tom-Dalpra [December 14, 2013 - 10:24 pm]: yes, bootleg. that turned my head
Rollo [December 14, 2013 - 10:25 pm]: heh...as if Anderson Coopers head isnt big enough
Bootleg_Bill [December 14, 2013 - 10:27 pm]: how's it been down under Rollo? doing well?
Rollo [December 14, 2013 - 10:28 pm]: things have become much clearer the last three weeks
Tom-Dalpra [December 14, 2013 - 10:28 pm]: the fear goes
Rollo [December 14, 2013 - 10:28 pm]: very well...on the up..down here you might say
Tom-Dalpra [December 14, 2013 - 10:28 pm]: you'll be awesome
Bootleg_Bill [December 14, 2013 - 10:28 pm]: nice!! glad to hear you on the RAW call. back to "normal" (whatever that is around these parts) ha
Rollo [December 14, 2013 - 10:29 pm]: yup spot on with that obsevation....Paranoid people arnt following me so much
Bootleg_Bill [December 14, 2013 - 10:29 pm]: i relate life to a heartbeat. up and down. up and down. once your flat line........
Tom-Dalpra [December 14, 2013 - 10:30 pm]: we need sane people, happy and healthy. makes me feel good about the world Rolls.
Rollo [December 14, 2013 - 10:31 pm]: you bet Tom, Right on Bill....Im still healing ...25 years Damage doesnt fix itself overnight
Bootleg_Bill [December 14, 2013 - 10:32 pm]: paranoia is a staple at the dinner table of "truth". but it is the meal itself that is important.
ab [December 14, 2013 - 10:33 pm]: how is the sound now? guests still low I think?
Bootleg_Bill [December 14, 2013 - 10:34 pm]: yes
Rollo [December 14, 2013 - 10:34 pm]: my cog has a couple of teeth left
ab [December 14, 2013 - 10:34 pm]: it's the latest version of skype's problem
Tom-Dalpra [December 14, 2013 - 10:34 pm]: yes. you're very loud comparitively and you have to ride the volume to listen
Rollo [December 14, 2013 - 10:34 pm]: ab is at 11 guests at about 5
ab [December 14, 2013 - 10:34 pm]: sorry. will have to work on that
Tom-Dalpra [December 14, 2013 - 10:35 pm]: 9 i was thinking ! ahem
Bootleg_Bill [December 14, 2013 - 10:35 pm]: @Ab right on. still listenable. skHype is bitch.
JohnnyClues [December 14, 2013 - 10:35 pm]: I use wireless headphones with volume control on them....so no biggy here
Rollo [December 14, 2013 - 10:35 pm]: 9 / 11 lets not quibble
Tom-Dalpra [December 14, 2013 - 10:36 pm]: totally listenable
Rollo [December 14, 2013 - 10:36 pm]: yup
ab [December 14, 2013 - 10:37 pm]: did that help?
Tom-Dalpra [December 14, 2013 - 10:37 pm]: better
Bootleg_Bill [December 14, 2013 - 10:37 pm]: boom
JohnnyClues [December 14, 2013 - 10:37 pm]: i find it did yes
Bootleg_Bill [December 14, 2013 - 10:37 pm]: yep
jimbo [December 14, 2013 - 10:38 pm]: Much loader sound now. Thanks.
Rollo [December 14, 2013 - 10:40 pm]: the term kook...did we get that from warren cuccurullo and no-plane theory
Tom-Dalpra [December 14, 2013 - 10:40 pm]: or vice versa
Rollo [December 14, 2013 - 10:41 pm]: hmm cant remember where i first heard it...ah well no matter
Tom-Dalpra [December 14, 2013 - 10:43 pm]: yes armunn. the scientific process. we eliminate what is proven false
Rollo [December 14, 2013 - 10:43 pm]: this sounds like Ct Toms Technique
Tom-Dalpra [December 14, 2013 - 10:44 pm]: truth is pure
Anders-Lindman [December 14, 2013 - 10:44 pm]: “When you have eliminated all which is impossible, then whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.”
― Arthur Conan Doyle, The Case-Book of Sherlock Holmes
Bootleg_Bill [December 14, 2013 - 10:46 pm]: propagandee "word of the night"
Tom-Dalpra [December 14, 2013 - 10:46 pm]: good shout
Rollo [December 14, 2013 - 10:48 pm]: this is a good modern take on Sherlock...http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1475582/
Anders-Lindman [December 14, 2013 - 10:48 pm]: Alex Jones is great, although it's probably some controlled opposition
Bootleg_Bill [December 14, 2013 - 10:49 pm]: was that live deja vu??
Rollo [December 14, 2013 - 10:50 pm]: AJ is fear mongering scum of the earth...in case you cant tell Im not a fan
Rollo [December 14, 2013 - 10:50 pm]: George Bush was funny
Rollo [December 14, 2013 - 10:51 pm]: no misunderestimation of Bush
JohnnyClues [December 14, 2013 - 10:51 pm]: if anything AJ sends fear with every word.....not a fan of that buzzsaw either
Anders-Lindman [December 14, 2013 - 10:51 pm]: Officer Jack Boot: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGrCEpjAOkA :-)
Bootleg_Bill [December 14, 2013 - 10:53 pm]: the fact me know "they" have c.o. and a.j is the king dingaling of control op. he is an actor for folks who know shit is off. to "lead" them to one part of the hole. to be stuck, scared and scattered
Tom-Dalpra [December 14, 2013 - 10:53 pm]: yes Anders. Jones is absolutely a purveyor of the propaganda these guys are talking about. Total tool.
Anders-Lindman [December 14, 2013 - 10:55 pm]: @Tom-Dalpra: but Alex Jones often has some good info too, and that's much better than mainstream media at least
wolfman9 [December 14, 2013 - 10:56 pm]: 'all the young dudes, carry the news'
Tom-Dalpra [December 14, 2013 - 10:57 pm]: he talks truth but CRUCIALLY not the whole truth. meanwhile he scaremongers and validates bullshit.
Anders-Lindman [December 14, 2013 - 10:58 pm]: it could be that all the guests on shows like Alex Jones and Coast to Coast are all staged! That's how a stage magician would do it
Rollo [December 14, 2013 - 10:58 pm]: I stayed with AJ way too long....
Tom-Dalpra [December 14, 2013 - 10:58 pm]: 'evil Hitler!' ....yawn
Tom-Dalpra [December 14, 2013 - 10:58 pm]: me too Rollo
Anders-Lindman [December 14, 2013 - 10:59 pm]: sorry, I meant all callers, not guests
Tom-Dalpra [December 14, 2013 - 10:59 pm]: now your thinking anders
Rollo [December 14, 2013 - 10:59 pm]: yup gotcha
Bootleg_Bill [December 14, 2013 - 11:00 pm]: if you can read between the lines...there are nuggets to be found in all propaganda. but the problems lies "for the mainstream" is knowing how and even caring to do so.
Tom-Dalpra [December 14, 2013 - 11:00 pm]: you're
Rollo [December 14, 2013 - 11:01 pm]: mendacious..nice
Tom-Dalpra [December 14, 2013 - 11:05 pm]: i didn't say!
Tom-Dalpra [December 14, 2013 - 11:05 pm]: that
jimbo [December 14, 2013 - 11:06 pm]: Alex Jones Sneaks into Bohemian Grove and video tapes the top secret goings on there. Then gets out ok with the tape. He is pretty good I must say.
Anders-Lindman [December 14, 2013 - 11:09 pm]: propaganda suppresses/removes natural fear responses, interesting
Bootleg_Bill [December 14, 2013 - 11:12 pm]: aj "broke" that story in the year 2000. bringing in the new normal. complete set up. before all that he was scaring the shit out of folks about Y2K. and so on and so on....
jimbo [December 14, 2013 - 11:16 pm]: AJ's break in was high drama and scare mongering to the max. I thought it was all legit at the time. Better than a horror movie. But he was just working for them.
Bootleg_Bill [December 14, 2013 - 11:18 pm]: he is very be"lie"vable. that is why he is where he is.
Anders-Lindman [December 14, 2013 - 11:19 pm]: fear is useful WHEN it's correctly interpreted. Fear mongering diverts the natural fear response
Bootleg_Bill [December 14, 2013 - 11:19 pm]: it is awesome you saw threw that and are now here.
Videre Licet [December 14, 2013 - 11:20 pm]: The best slave is the one who thinks he's free.
Tom-Dalpra [December 14, 2013 - 11:20 pm]: barack obama - best job on the plantation
Rollo [December 14, 2013 - 11:21 pm]: DEVO's song ..Freedom of choice comes to mind
jimbo [December 14, 2013 - 11:21 pm]: Good one Bootleg. His paymasters are very on top of things. They know how exactly to target the conspiracy researcher.
Rollo [December 14, 2013 - 11:22 pm]: I played Pacman, it only gave me an eating disorder :)
Videre Licet [December 14, 2013 - 11:22 pm]: How do we know what an original thought is?
Anders-Lindman [December 14, 2013 - 11:24 pm]: video games are like alcohol, good in moderation :D
Rollo [December 14, 2013 - 11:25 pm]: moderation...Ive been told about this concept...
Bootleg_Bill [December 14, 2013 - 11:25 pm]: video games push a young western society. sports, violence and war.
Bootleg_Bill [December 14, 2013 - 11:26 pm]: ha. right with ya Rollo
jimbo [December 14, 2013 - 11:27 pm]: Video games and beer,count me in, in moderation of course.
Anders-Lindman [December 14, 2013 - 11:27 pm]: I think they should use video games in peaceful knowledge education instead of the propaganda tool education is today
Rollo [December 14, 2013 - 11:28 pm]: He's the crack smoker..isnt he?
Bootleg_Bill [December 14, 2013 - 11:28 pm]: yeah. straight crack homie
jimbo [December 14, 2013 - 11:29 pm]: December 1993, Doom PC game is released to the world. A day which will live in infamy.
columjaddica [December 14, 2013 - 11:29 pm]: There's a 3D shooter out there that tried to criticize other 3d shooters, although I didn't play it so I don't know if it was an honest attempt. It's called Spec OPS: The Line, and the main character gets PTSD over the course of the game and even the HUD starts to look different as the game progresses
Rollo [December 14, 2013 - 11:29 pm]: gets my vote...what the hell
Bootleg_Bill [December 14, 2013 - 11:30 pm]: 'If voting made any difference they wouldn't let us do it.' Mark Twain —
Rollo [December 14, 2013 - 11:30 pm]: hey ab leave me out of this :)
Bootleg_Bill [December 14, 2013 - 11:31 pm]: this is the interesting part....
Anders-Lindman [December 14, 2013 - 11:38 pm]: Judaism is interesting since it's such a super old religion, much older than Christianity and the Vatican.
Videre Licet [December 14, 2013 - 11:41 pm]: Fear is borne of ignorance resulting in despair, while knowledge can provide us with the hope we need to dare.
Anders-Lindman [December 14, 2013 - 11:43 pm]: Propaganda hijacks people's attention and diverts it.
Videre Licet [December 14, 2013 - 11:56 pm]: Whooooo Rah!
Videre Licet [December 14, 2013 - 11:56 pm]: or ... raw!
Videre Licet [December 14, 2013 - 11:58 pm]: huge contrast from what was it? ep 78?
Anders-Lindman [December 15, 2013 - 12:00 am]: My religion is the technological singularity, and life extension to thousands of years lifespan! B)
jimbo [December 15, 2013 - 12:01 am]: My greatest fear, stumbling into a Kiss concert.
Videre Licet [December 15, 2013 - 12:02 am]: we can see reincarnation in a garden .. why can't we see it in humanity?
Videre Licet [December 15, 2013 - 12:02 am]: perception is everything
Bootleg_Bill [December 15, 2013 - 12:03 am]: heaven and hell on earth. the only one I know for sure exists.
Videre Licet [December 15, 2013 - 12:03 am]: hey jimbo... mine tooo
Anders-Lindman [December 15, 2013 - 12:04 am]: Alex Jones says that Ray Kurzweil is a 'high priest' of the New World Order. What a load of bull! :-)
Videre Licet [December 15, 2013 - 12:04 am]: big words for alex jones
Videre Licet [December 15, 2013 - 12:05 am]: hi I'm videre... I'm a fakeaholic
ab [December 15, 2013 - 12:06 am]: @Videre Licet: we'll get your 12 steps ready next week
Anders-Lindman [December 15, 2013 - 12:06 am]: @Videre Licet: AF = Anonymous Fakeologists :D
Videre Licet [December 15, 2013 - 12:06 am]: Fa~
Videre Licet [December 15, 2013 - 12:07 am]: We are not unlike Rollo stepping out of a hellish reality to a peaceful one
Videre Licet [December 15, 2013 - 12:08 am]: anxiety and frustration takes over and we find our way back her
Videre Licet [December 15, 2013 - 12:08 am]: here
Videre Licet [December 15, 2013 - 12:09 am]: Then we find our calm when we see ourselves in others who come here
Anders-Lindman [December 15, 2013 - 12:09 am]: fakeoholics.com is available Maybe a bit too lame domain name, lol, but anyway
Videre Licet [December 15, 2013 - 12:09 am]: I'm on it...
Videre Licet [December 15, 2013 - 12:09 am]: Lets do it~
ab [December 15, 2013 - 12:10 am]: @Videre Licet: I'll promote it
Videre Licet [December 15, 2013 - 12:11 am]: love it ab!
ab [December 15, 2013 - 12:11 am]: @Videre Licet: call in before we close, we need a woman's touch (you are a woman I think)
Videre Licet [December 15, 2013 - 12:12 am]: Skype?
ab [December 15, 2013 - 12:12 am]: yes I'll add you
Videre Licet [December 15, 2013 - 12:12 am]: k
ArmunnRigh [December 15, 2013 - 12:12 am]: She's not a woman, she's Michelle Obama :D
Bootleg_Bill [December 15, 2013 - 12:13 am]: ha
Anders-Lindman [December 15, 2013 - 12:13 am]: fakeops.com is also available. Sorry for the digression, but that's maybe a cooler domain name
Bootleg_Bill [December 15, 2013 - 12:13 am]: for the 12 step. fakeoholics.com
Videre Licet [December 15, 2013 - 12:13 am]: Anders is on a mission
Anders-Lindman [December 15, 2013 - 12:14 am]: Ha ha
JohnnyClues [December 15, 2013 - 12:14 am]: lol
ArmunnRigh [December 15, 2013 - 12:15 am]: I have to thank Videre for asking very important questions to me!
JohnnyClues [December 15, 2013 - 12:17 am]: videre was on ep62
wolfman9 [December 15, 2013 - 12:22 am]: This is what I have been saying about MARKus ALLen
Anders-Lindman [December 15, 2013 - 12:23 am]: That sounds similar to a woman I have heard as a caller on mainstream radio shows. She has like 1000 personalities! Lol.
columjaddica [December 15, 2013 - 12:23 am]: Markus definately promotes his sites around the internet with sockuppets
wolfman9 [December 15, 2013 - 12:29 am]: Or a team of people
Bootleg_Bill [December 15, 2013 - 12:29 am]: mark is starting shit and is not even here. ha.
Rollo [December 15, 2013 - 12:29 am]: Im sure I heard Someone said Jan is Simon Shack
JohnnyClues [December 15, 2013 - 12:30 am]: @Bootleg_Bill: lol
Rollo [December 15, 2013 - 12:31 am]: How do we know he's not
Anders-Lindman [December 15, 2013 - 12:31 am]: The "cabal" loves centralized control, so that's one reason why they many times use the same person perhaps
Bootleg_Bill [December 15, 2013 - 12:33 am]: "they" had to know the net would be tricky for those who thought different. that is why they gave us jones watt fetz and the like
Rollo [December 15, 2013 - 12:35 am]: heh
Bootleg_Bill [December 15, 2013 - 12:36 am]: only time i've heard his likeness is the talkshoe intro. but i only listen to 2 chats.
Bootleg_Bill [December 15, 2013 - 12:36 am]: that intro sounds just like him
Anders-Lindman [December 15, 2013 - 12:39 am]: I only have like 5 false personalities, usually named anderslindman2, anderslindman3 and so on. Just kidding! :D
Rollo [December 15, 2013 - 12:39 am]: Im Rollo Gibson
columjaddica [December 15, 2013 - 12:40 am]: Or it takes the whole world to find 10 people at this place with fakery
wolfman9 [December 15, 2013 - 12:45 am]: Flight 77 hit the pentagon in D.C., which is on the 77th parallel
wolfman9 [December 15, 2013 - 12:46 am]: or, imaginary flight 77 :P
Anders-Lindman [December 15, 2013 - 12:46 am]: Building 7 with 47 floors = Boeing 747 Hmm... I guess that's taking numerology speculation too far...
Rollo [December 15, 2013 - 12:47 am]: Y2K -> Y=25 2 / K=11 -> 2+5+2=9 / 11 -> 9/11
Bootleg_Bill [December 15, 2013 - 12:49 am]: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJNVgCHLR-k >assume the position
ArmunnRigh [December 15, 2013 - 12:53 am]: Ro11o !
Bootleg_Bill [December 15, 2013 - 12:53 am]: ha
ArmunnRigh [December 15, 2013 - 12:53 am]: Bootle9 Bi11
Bootleg_Bill [December 15, 2013 - 12:53 am]: haha
ArmunnRigh [December 15, 2013 - 12:54 am]: we can find he numbers we look for everywhere
Bootleg_Bill [December 15, 2013 - 12:54 am]: was thinking what numbers are not "their" numbers? and got like 2 and 4. haha
Anders-Lindman [December 15, 2013 - 12:54 am]: lol @ numerology Bootle9 Bi11
columjaddica [December 15, 2013 - 12:55 am]: Something changed, I lived by corn fields most of my life and they certainly plant the rows much closer together than they used to
Bootleg_Bill [December 15, 2013 - 12:55 am]: but there is no doubt to me that they do us numbers.
Bootleg_Bill [December 15, 2013 - 12:55 am]: use
Videre Licet [December 15, 2013 - 12:55 am]: /Israel Bissell outrode Paul Revere, yet didn't get a poem
Read more: http://www1.whdh.com/news/articles/local/BO49091
Bootleg_Bill [December 15, 2013 - 12:56 am]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetically_modified_food
columjaddica [December 15, 2013 - 12:56 am]: 6-11 servings of grain a day!
jimbo [December 15, 2013 - 12:56 am]: Modern dwarf wheat makes you sedentary. I know,i quit eating it and now feel much better. More active. 47 lbs lighter too.
Rollo [December 15, 2013 - 12:57 am]: Great Show Guys..Gotta Go .....One of the Best......
Anders-Lindman [December 15, 2013 - 12:57 am]: for juicing I usually use plain red wine
JohnnyClues [December 15, 2013 - 12:57 am]: see ya rollo
Bootleg_Bill [December 15, 2013 - 12:58 am]: night Rollo
jimbo [December 15, 2013 - 12:59 am]: Read the book Wheatbelly by Dr. William Davis. It lays out the problems with hybridized modern wheat.Gluten. Gliaden. The whole 9 yards.
Videre Licet [December 15, 2013 - 12:59 am]: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXWurAmtf78
jimbo [December 15, 2013 - 1:01 am]: Plain red wine is the juice I'm juicing with right now. It works.
Bootleg_Bill [December 15, 2013 - 1:02 am]: water and food are highly controlled in the states. nothing but modified, pasteurized, pesticided and out right injected with poisons like fluoride.
Anders-Lindman [December 15, 2013 - 1:06 am]: Fluoride is prevalent in society. Helmuth -- Are You Ready For The Fluor? (Official Music Video) -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16L8eWdBEUU
Bootleg_Bill [December 15, 2013 - 1:10 am]: contradiction. good guy and lying actor.
Videre Licet [December 15, 2013 - 1:11 am]: cognitive dissonance
Bootleg_Bill [December 15, 2013 - 1:11 am]: .
Videre Licet [December 15, 2013 - 1:12 am]: just a man doing his job
Videre Licet [December 15, 2013 - 1:13 am]: love the man for his nuggets
Videre Licet [December 15, 2013 - 1:13 am]: overlook the lies -- sounds like a bad marriage
Videre Licet [December 15, 2013 - 1:14 am]: :o):o):o):o):o)>:-D:o):o):o):o):o):o)
Bootleg_Bill [December 15, 2013 - 1:15 am]: ah o. threw the >:-D
Videre Licet [December 15, 2013 - 1:16 am]: Oscar!!
Anders-Lindman [December 15, 2013 - 1:22 am]: A good weapon against disinfo is to vet the information oneself instead of relying on external authorities. When it comes to conspiracies then no external authorities or experts can be trusted.
Videre Licet [December 15, 2013 - 1:24 am]: I am sure we would be at the FA hall together if we lived in the same neighborhood
Videre Licet [December 15, 2013 - 1:25 am]: drinking coffee and sharing stories
ab [December 15, 2013 - 1:25 am]: from Peter: from 9/11/01 to 11/22/13 was 4455 days. from 11/22/13 to 12/25/13 is 33 days and from 9/11/01 to 12/25/13 is 4488 days. it was always about this x-mas 12/25/13
Bootleg_Bill [December 15, 2013 - 1:26 am]: ah.
Videre Licet [December 15, 2013 - 1:26 am]: :idea:
Videre Licet [December 15, 2013 - 1:27 am]: 8o
ab [December 15, 2013 - 1:32 am]: Peter is the fakeologist's philosopher
ab [December 15, 2013 - 1:33 am]: get your parting shots in we're wrapping
Anders-Lindman [December 15, 2013 - 1:33 am]: One relatively new idea I have is that disinfo agents can be controlled-controlled opposition! What I mean is that the agent pretends to be controlled opposition while in fact inserting a truth agenda subversively. :idea:
Videre Licet [December 15, 2013 - 1:35 am]: Armunn shared a great link on disinfo agents an how there is a variety - many who believe their own spin
JohnnyClues [December 15, 2013 - 1:36 am]: @ab: great show Ab....when you get a sec read my recent comment on ep80......thks
Bootleg_Bill [December 15, 2013 - 1:39 am]: don't forget paul walker
Bootleg_Bill [December 15, 2013 - 1:40 am]: thank you Ab, Jan, Ar, Vid, Peter, Rollo, Tyler. Great chat tonight!!
ArmunnRigh [December 15, 2013 - 1:40 am]: @Videre Licet: http://exposinginfragard.blogspot.ca/2012/07/detecting-disinformation-agents.html
wolfman9 [December 15, 2013 - 1:40 am]: really liked the show, i will check that book out. thanks
Bootleg_Bill [December 15, 2013 - 1:41 am]: great find on the book Jan
ab [December 15, 2013 - 1:42 am]: Thanks all...it was a big one again....great contributions
Videre Licet [December 15, 2013 - 1:43 am]: Thanks ab. Enjoyed your book study.
Bootleg_Bill [December 15, 2013 - 1:45 am]: yes. it was like school...except I actually listened. ha
knagjak [December 15, 2013 - 8:30 am]: Yea. First time I had ever called into to any type of raide broadcast. Nice discussing intellectual thoughts ideas. I'm Tyler btw
ab [December 15, 2013 - 10:52 am]: @knagjak: good job
JohnnyClues [December 15, 2013 - 3:42 pm]: @ArmunnRigh: check your Skype when you get some free time.....thanks
ab [December 15, 2013 - 4:53 pm]: new show should be uploaded soon. having issues right now
columjaddica [December 15, 2013 - 5:01 pm]: Linked from Drudge this morning, "The Saudi 9/11 Cover-Up" http://nypost.com/2013/12/15/inside-the-saudi-911-coverup/
columjaddica [December 15, 2013 - 5:07 pm]: 9-year-old Ohio girl found in dumpster in Ohio. Man named Jarrod Metzger arrested, looks similar to Tom Metzger with lipstick http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/12/15/21912410-9-year-old-ohio-girl-found-in-dumpster-neighbor-arrested
wanda [December 15, 2013 - 5:25 pm]: @columjaddica: more news than you can shake a stick at... http://servv89pn0aj.sn.sourcedns.com/~gbpprorg/judicial-inc/Sayanim.htm
JohnnyClues [December 15, 2013 - 6:04 pm]: @columjaddica: very odd one.....what is going on around this guy's earlobes in the pic....whenever I read " told The Associated Press ".....it makes me wonder. Dem lips are quite shiny!...good catch.
ab [December 15, 2013 - 6:21 pm]: audio is uploaded for ep80 now. If you want to get the audio's more quickly, go to the bittorrent sync part of this page: http://fakeologist.com/radio/ and download via bittorrent sybc
JohnnyClues [December 15, 2013 - 6:43 pm]: Jade Rabbit <-- interesting name choice.......Feels like I'm being "Punked".....again. http://topekasnews.com/china-lands-moon-immediately-deploys-robot-drone-trample-us-flag-armstrongs-footprint/
JohnnyClues [December 15, 2013 - 6:43 pm]: http://news.yahoo.com/china-39-39-jade-rabbit-39-lunar-rover-220110008.html
JohnnyClues [December 15, 2013 - 7:08 pm]: Lol.....well color my face red....I did get punked it seems....topekasnews.com is a satire news site similar to the onion.....news to me! topekas pricks will pay for making johnny look stupid.....I can handle that well enough on my own thank you!
ab [December 15, 2013 - 9:16 pm]: @JohnnyClues: deceptions are everywhere. I suggest you ignore space stories. They're probably almost ALL fantasy.
ab [December 15, 2013 - 9:16 pm]: http://s2.fakeologist.com for old shows of mine and other favorites. give the site as background noise for non-believers.
Videre Licet [December 15, 2013 - 10:44 pm]: http://www.numerology.com/number-33
Videre Licet [December 15, 2013 - 11:15 pm]: Sound familiar? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lq2ERr3X7I4
Videre Licet [December 15, 2013 - 11:17 pm]: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ee29TPejRU
ArmunnRigh [December 16, 2013 - 12:16 am]: @Videre Licet: In this case http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lq2ERr3X7I4 it sounds absolutely the same voice to me
Videre Licet [December 16, 2013 - 12:23 am]: and then listen to scott in ep78
Videre Licet [December 16, 2013 - 12:36 am]: the first 2 voices here are the same person http://recordings.talkshoe.com/TC-128766/TS-811300.mp3
Videre Licet [December 16, 2013 - 12:40 am]: okay ... the 3rd is the same person http://recordings.talkshoe.com/TC-128766/TS-811300.mp3
Videre Licet [December 16, 2013 - 12:51 am]: Regarding the link above: When you know the patterns of deception you can clearly see that this is mostly a one man show.
ArmunnRigh [December 16, 2013 - 12:57 am]: @Videre Licet: December 16, 2013 - 12:36 am
the first 2 voices here are the same person http://recordings.talkshoe.com/TC-128766/TS-811300.mp3 - I don't get it: are you saying John Friend and Tom are the same voice? They're having a dialogue.
Videre Licet [December 16, 2013 - 1:00 am]: listen to the words overlaid.
ArmunnRigh [December 16, 2013 - 1:03 am]: ? Not here for me, Videre. John and Tom's voices are completely different - if that's what you're saying, if I understood correctly, I don't see any similarity. Besides, having a dialogue with yourself and make it look as natural as this is nearly impossible and is absolutely impossible on a consistent almost daily basis
Videre Licet [December 16, 2013 - 1:10 am]: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8is5K_Z_Qw
ArmunnRigh [December 16, 2013 - 1:15 am]: but here he does not speak the two voices at the same time, they never get overlaid
ArmunnRigh [December 16, 2013 - 1:16 am]: that could only be possible if it was prerecorded and it is nearly impossible to get it right that way
Videre Licet [December 16, 2013 - 1:16 am]: sounds recorded to me.
Videre Licet [December 16, 2013 - 1:17 am]: they don't appear to be talking to each other just stating their views in the beginning
Videre Licet [December 16, 2013 - 1:18 am]: I love phil hendrie *(hahahaha) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKgzH718zHc
ArmunnRigh [December 16, 2013 - 1:20 am]: nah, that's overstepping oneself, in my opinion, Videre, I don't even see the similarity in this case
Videre Licet [December 16, 2013 - 1:21 am]: remember that is what people say to you when you speak of fakery and they are not ready/willing to see
Videre Licet [December 16, 2013 - 1:23 am]: (listening to phil & LOL) :D
Videre Licet [December 16, 2013 - 1:24 am]: armunn -- don't follow the conversation in the john link ... just skip around and see if you can tell who is who
ArmunnRigh [December 16, 2013 - 1:24 am]: I do remember, but still I can't fly without a gear if I jump out my window. One thing is to have people not looking at evidence, another is to have people looking into evidence and seeing what is not there. I look and don't see it.
Videre Licet [December 16, 2013 - 1:25 am]: maybe you are listening to the words and not the tone/pace
ArmunnRigh [December 16, 2013 - 1:26 am]: I know how good voice actors can be, but it is one thing to be able to perform multiple voices and accents, another is to be able to hold a credible conversation with yourself that has overlaid voices, that is, talking with a pre recorded voice of yourself. Even in the links you sent of Phil, sometimes his "other" voice gets caught in the wrong microphone.
ArmunnRigh [December 16, 2013 - 1:27 am]: I'm not listening to words, I'm listening to what you asked me to focus on, the voices.
Videre Licet [December 16, 2013 - 1:30 am]: this sounds prerecorded (john's) - the back and forth does not seem natural
Videre Licet [December 16, 2013 - 1:30 am]: I find it funny how they go on about deception and trickery
Videre Licet [December 16, 2013 - 1:31 am]: the content of the conversation has not depth that you would need to follow back and forth.
Videre Licet [December 16, 2013 - 1:33 am]: no depth
Videre Licet [December 16, 2013 - 1:33 am]: sounds like monologues to fill space
ArmunnRigh [December 16, 2013 - 1:36 am]: No, in this case, I don't even see anything there. I do agree about Chiarini's voice being very similar to that Tiki guy and also similar (though not conclusively so) to MA, but in this case, it is overstepping in my view
columjaddica [December 16, 2013 - 10:15 am]: Peter O'Toole died in 2012 according to this Yahoo news article posted in 2012, dead at age 81. http://uk.movies.yahoo.com/blogs/movie-editors/peter-o-toole-80-best-drinking-stories-132719697.html
columjaddica [December 16, 2013 - 10:16 am]: If you go deep into the comments you'll even see a bunch of people mourning him 1 year and 4 months ago. Then, the comments start up again the last few days, none of the new commenters managed to notice the date and age discrepancies, and comments from over a year ago...
columjaddica [December 16, 2013 - 10:17 am]: But then, less than a month ago, he comes out of retirement as well! http://www.rte.ie/ten/news/2013/1126/489194-peter-otoole-comes-out-of-retirement/
ArmunnRigh [December 16, 2013 - 12:22 pm]: and the 1st article links to the source article which is from today.... interesting
knagjak [December 16, 2013 - 5:52 pm]: time to do another raw show!
JohnnyClues [December 16, 2013 - 6:19 pm]: More photoshopping , much easier on the eyes than snow! http://ca.shine.yahoo.com/blogs/shine-on/flare-under-fire-photoshopping-jennifer-lawrence-175707803.html
Rollo [December 16, 2013 - 6:27 pm]: Hey "Knagjak / Tyler" the Hoaxbusters show starts in about 2hours or so on talkshoe.com Call ID#90337 Chris goes for 3 hours or so and are happy to talk about this stuff.
knagjak [December 16, 2013 - 6:29 pm]: I'm there . I'll see my alarm
Rollo [December 16, 2013 - 6:29 pm]: Ab I watched "The Imposter" ...its was well produced but it seems unlikely no matter how much you want your kid back, that you'd accept someone 10years too old and doesnt remotely look the same
Rollo [December 16, 2013 - 6:29 pm]: yup see ya there
knagjak [December 16, 2013 - 7:12 pm]: it won't let me create a talkshoe account. Something with my password
JohnnyClues [December 16, 2013 - 7:20 pm]: @knagjak: that is strange.....not sure if in the password you need certain characters, like numbers as well as letters.....I never had an issue, but it did take a bit till the screen refreshed after selecting create account, it should work for ya, might be worth another try again
JohnnyClues [December 16, 2013 - 8:59 pm]: @Ab http://ca.news.yahoo.com/questions-raised-over-toronto-police-shooting-downtown-subway-090008682.html
ab [December 16, 2013 - 9:44 pm]: @JohnnyClues: pretty sure that was a weak fake story subway
ab [December 16, 2013 - 9:45 pm]: @Rollo: not sure if any of the story is true. Johnny couldn't find much evidence of the story. It may be based on a grain of truth, or a complete fabrication.
columjaddica [December 16, 2013 - 9:50 pm]: Listening to EP80 now, I missed half of the show when it was live. I think it's interesting because although you (AB) often say there's nothing to worry about and the fakery can be tuned out I've been far more disturbed since I discovered that most of these things are fake
columjaddica [December 16, 2013 - 9:51 pm]: "Propaganda eliminates one of the causes of tension by driving man straight into such a climate of opinion. This greatly simplifies his life and gives him stability , much security, and a certain satisfaction."
columjaddica [December 16, 2013 - 9:54 pm]: So when you realize this stuff is fake, and break off with whatever group you were with before (I spent time in the White "racist" community for awhile, among other communities) then you're kind of adrift and can't find anybody to comfort you. Then some of us start building communities of similar thinkers, like the one here
columjaddica [December 16, 2013 - 9:59 pm]: I have a personal forum that started publicly but eventually went private, only 5 or so active users. We are all more or less of the same opinions now, and activity is slow, but we've all decided that we want to keep it, if only to have a place to vent to people without being heavily assaulted with other viewpoints. I guess this is still propaganda or has a lot of the same effects
columjaddica [December 16, 2013 - 10:01 pm]: I don't think that I use propaganda to avoid thought but I wonder if the same processes are at work. Damn near everything looks fake to me now
columjaddica [December 16, 2013 - 10:34 pm]: I guess my main point is that I haven't found fakery to be a comforting thought. Quite the opposite, now nearly everybody I meet completely dissagrees with me on everything. The notion that somebody mysterious could manipulate the public to any number of dangerous or violent ends with a CG film short is hardly comforting.
columjaddica [December 16, 2013 - 10:35 pm]: Not that there's any going back
JohnnyClues [December 16, 2013 - 11:03 pm]: @columjaddica: "I've been far more disturbed since I discovered that most of these things are fake "...... I agree 100% with that statement.....I feel the exact same way......I find myself questioning who can I truly even trust.......it blows bigtime!
JohnnyClues [December 16, 2013 - 11:10 pm]: @columjaddica: I can relate to your previous statements fully.....I guess if it helps.... you are not alone in feeling this way....I know many times I question constantly....but one thing does remain....ive looked into enough stories to feel that I know, most seem like bs.....the same template seems to be used in the most part......what a nutbar world we are living in......imo
columjaddica [December 16, 2013 - 11:41 pm]: Yeah, I'm having a hard time dealing with it, I would say
columjaddica [December 16, 2013 - 11:42 pm]: I did meet one person recently who is mostly on the same page, maybe not quite as far as we are. Looking forward to some conversations in real life
columjaddica [December 16, 2013 - 11:45 pm]: I doubt the majority will ever stop and think clearly. The solution is to raise a whole generation of critical thinkers around the planet. Obviously the people doing the teaching don't have that ability. It's a chicken and egg kind of problem.
columjaddica [December 16, 2013 - 11:46 pm]: And for every person that discovers this and is troubled by it, there are probably a few more that decide they just want to be one of the illusionists
columjaddica [December 17, 2013 - 12:04 am]: I'm a bit more frustrated than normal due to the Colorado shooting, which is a constant assault of coverage here which I get at home and in public
JohnnyClues [December 17, 2013 - 12:11 am]: @columjaddica: With the fear of sounding like a knob.....feel free to add me on Skype if you want....the info is available in the forums sections, under suspicious stories, then under "L.A.X. Shooting":.....I have found it helpful to me, chatting with others who are awake.....it's the next best thing to live one on one.....for example.....
columjaddica [December 17, 2013 - 12:13 am]: I haven't used Skype yet and frequently use linux on my computer, which I don't think works with Skype. But I'll probably hook it up and call into one of the call-in shows here. Thanks for the offer, maybe soon!
columjaddica [December 17, 2013 - 12:15 am]: Actually, looks like linux can run skype, didn't know that
JohnnyClues [December 17, 2013 - 12:15 am]: I didn't know Armunn one bit, then after a misunderstanding, we started chatting on Skype....I got to know him a lot better, and found out he is a cool smart guy....I have found it tremendesly helpful, because it can be a lonely world once awakened without someone to chat with who is awake as I am,......I'm very greatful to to have gotten to know him.....I know how I felt because any friend in t
columjaddica [December 17, 2013 - 12:17 am]: Yeah, I appreciate the whole thing here, it's just a conversation. I'm not sure how much I can add to it, there is a focus on the big picture here and I spent much of the past year looking at the really small picture trying to figure out what's going on (clues left in psyops)
JohnnyClues [December 17, 2013 - 12:18 am]: ...the real world like co workers look at me like im nuts for being awake......the offer goes to anyone.....and if I do sound like a knob, so be it! that isn't my problem
columjaddica [December 17, 2013 - 12:20 am]: No, good offer. I'll get skype hooked up sometime soon
JohnnyClues [December 17, 2013 - 12:21 am]: np......well you know how to contact me now......if you wish.....just glad to help ease ....because the shit we are dealing with is completely crazy
JohnnyClues [December 17, 2013 - 12:42 am]: @columjaddica: said "I'm not sure how much I can add to it, there is a focus on the big picture here and I spent much of the past year looking at the really small picture trying to figure out what's going on (clues left in psyops)" - Johnny says - "I'm at the same place" - when it comes to the bigger picture, I tend to get lost and be all " say whaaa?"....Thankfully Armunn has helped me u
JohnnyClues [December 17, 2013 - 12:47 am]: .....has helped meme understand clearly the bigger psychopath agenda we are dealing with....I gotta go get some shut eye now since I become Mr.Slave in the morning....nice chatting with ya
columjaddica [December 17, 2013 - 12:47 am]: Yeah, all of the recent episodes have been really great at helping to explain things. It's important to step back from the details of the psyops sometimes. I actually think that there is an entertainment factor when it comes to following the rabbit holes, and I enjoy picking part the stories, but at this point it's just confirming what I already think.
columjaddica [December 17, 2013 - 12:48 am]: G'night, tlak to ya later
Anders-Lindman [December 17, 2013 - 6:35 am]: ab, tell your callers and guests to not say 'you know' all the time. That would improve the quality a lot.
ArmunnRigh [December 17, 2013 - 7:19 am]: @Anders-Lindman: You're right about that and I, for my part, accept that criticism. Although I feel comfortable with English as a second language, I'm obviously not as at ease with it as I am with my first language, so I put those little bridges there unconsciously when I'm thinking about the words I'll say next :-)
smj [December 17, 2013 - 2:40 pm]: @Anders-Lindman - i concentrate on content and not delivery. i appreciate the effort jan eric and armunn make by communicating for hours in their second languages. it's more effort but it can also serve as a distillation process. if you can communicate an idea in multiple tongues you are likely closer to the essence of what your're trying to say.
Anders-Lindman [December 17, 2013 - 3:22 pm]: I was kind of half joking. >:-D But seriously though, basically everybody says 'you know' all the time. I have even heard Barack Obama talking like that. Could be some kind of subconscious psyOp meme to program the masses, ha ha.
Tom-Dalpra [December 17, 2013 - 4:29 pm]: 'Kind-of, half-joking (Cartoon devils head) BUT seriously though. basically everybody says 'you know' all the time.' You know what I mean, basically? It could be some subconscious psyOp by you Anders to clamber onto my breast like an eager child and gnaw at my nipples. I tolerate with love, as do other sane people around here, clearly. TAAr
wanda [December 17, 2013 - 5:56 pm]: Well, let's just continue to not look at who is really doing it, because that would be obvious... ??!!! G_d forbid one jew suffer while thousands of cattle suffer and die daily. Pushed into the maelstrom by the sayanim... Sayanim: http://servv89pn0aj.sn.sourcedns.com/~gbpprorg/judicial-inc/Sayanim.htm
Tom-Dalpra [December 17, 2013 - 5:57 pm]: here she comes talking about religion
wanda [December 17, 2013 - 5:57 pm]: Who cares if they are at the top, above the chessboard. Their crimes are legendary, they are legion, and they are historic. Strike at the evil.
wanda [December 17, 2013 - 5:58 pm]: Who in the F is talking religion, Tom. I am talking about crimes against humanity, usury is one, and i am talking about what it will take to bring closure to this long nightmare.
Tom-Dalpra [December 17, 2013 - 5:59 pm]: By using the word evil you're just playing to that live backwards paradigm. Gimme a break magic wands. Call the Jews a sponsored minority in a control mechanism.
Tom-Dalpra [December 17, 2013 - 6:00 pm]: yes usury is one of the original false paradigms i suppose
Tom-Dalpra [December 17, 2013 - 6:00 pm]: in our recorded 'history'
Tom-Dalpra [December 17, 2013 - 6:01 pm]: but calling it 'evil' is playing harmony to it's tune
wanda [December 17, 2013 - 6:01 pm]: You give me a break Tom. Here's a recent comment of yours: you Anders to clamber onto my breast like an eager child and gnaw at my nipples. - - - That gives me a window into your mind... what eager children do you know gnaw on nipples? That's pretty twisted. In my world, infants suckle for nourishment.
wanda [December 17, 2013 - 6:02 pm]: Not calling it evil plays into the brainwashing meme. Are you trying the meme of Evil does not exist? You fail... at humanity 101.
Tom-Dalpra [December 17, 2013 - 6:02 pm]: And I offered acceptance with love. Read it all and see tough love which was my intent.
Tom-Dalpra [December 17, 2013 - 6:03 pm]: You're great with words Wanda.
wanda [December 17, 2013 - 6:04 pm]: It IS New Age Religion mumbo jumbo. It twists reality and warps perception. It should be simple... it is simple. The jews are committing criminal acts, they have been doing it for centuries... end it.
Tom-Dalpra [December 17, 2013 - 6:04 pm]: Our mindset is programmed on the idea that evil exists. This whole fakery revelation experience shows the 'evil' to be made up! that's the whole thing for me.
wanda [December 17, 2013 - 6:05 pm]: Does good exist Tom?
Tom-Dalpra [December 17, 2013 - 6:06 pm]: we need references. I'll accept any terminology in context including errrrmmmm you know...
Tom-Dalpra [December 17, 2013 - 6:06 pm]: Is the queen of england evil?
wanda [December 17, 2013 - 6:06 pm]: Yes... yes she is.
Tom-Dalpra [December 17, 2013 - 6:09 pm]: for me, I see her like some of the people I help in my job. They have special needs. They're different, but they can't help having been born like that. They're not evil in my mind.
wanda [December 17, 2013 - 6:09 pm]: Have you looked into exactly why those people you "help" have these special needs?
Tom-Dalpra [December 17, 2013 - 6:10 pm]: It's not the feckin queens fault is it? she's just a puppet born into a completely nutty system :-)) bless 'em! haha
wanda [December 17, 2013 - 6:10 pm]: That is where you find evil... and the Q of E is part of that network of evil.
Anders-Lindman [December 17, 2013 - 6:10 pm]: @Tom-Dalpra: But surely you must agree that it's suspicious how everybody is running around saying 'you know' all the time. It's a mega meme! I'm not sure if it has any subliminal mind control function. Could have!
wanda [December 17, 2013 - 6:11 pm]: So you say... so says the dialogue. Believe everything you hear Tom.
wanda [December 17, 2013 - 6:11 pm]: Don't think for yourself... that is not allowed... that is obvious, so don't go there.
Tom-Dalpra [December 17, 2013 - 6:23 pm]: hey wanda. i listen and am open to what you say, I would be interested in your take on spirituality. And to Anders, yes, 'you know'. Armunn took your point well, which says a lot. Fair enough ( smiley head)
wanda [December 17, 2013 - 6:32 pm]: Evil does not exist is merely parroting the E-Card solipsism churned out for mass consumption.
wanda [December 17, 2013 - 6:40 pm]: Churned out for dumb-asses. (the masses)
wanda [December 17, 2013 - 6:42 pm]: I can talk about religion till the cows come home... i was indoctrinated (born into) that system. Spirituality is quite another topic, and not one i am here to speak to... because it is not knowable.
wanda [December 17, 2013 - 6:45 pm]: Because people are playing roles or are puppets does not excuse their actions... that is enough to take down the control system... to hold the individuals responsible to the harm they cause by their actions.
wanda [December 17, 2013 - 6:46 pm]: It is about morality and the desire to live in a sane and logical world. Even the animals (that we consider ourselves above, what a joke) have that going... they know and understand the risks... and they deal with them.
wanda [December 17, 2013 - 7:01 pm]: Unless they've been domesticated & confined... & we are thisclose. I will not go down spouting solipsisms... i will not go down vibrating to a higher frequency when reality shows the diamond is one of the densest (lowest in frequency) elements on earth. I question & do my own research & learn anything i need to to formulate a true picture. I will not adopt false ideology that obscures reality.
ab [December 17, 2013 - 7:53 pm]: I won't be telling any guests how to talk. Armunn and Jan Erik speak very well for second languages, often better than many who use English as a first language
Videre Licet [December 17, 2013 - 8:30 pm]: @ab: I think most people who speak English do not speak as well as Armunn and Jan Erik.
columjaddica [December 17, 2013 - 11:31 pm]: I've spent a lot of time trying to improve my English with very limited results. Eliminating "you know" is probably impossible. People who use English as a second language probably don't spend as much time immersed in casual and "improper" use of it. Most Americans come out of their teens with all kinds of improper usage that is then set in stone. We pick it up from everybody around us.
columjaddica [December 17, 2013 - 11:58 pm]: Reports of Mega Millions winners in California and Georgia. Originally reported as only one winner of a $636,000,000 jackpot in California.
columjaddica [December 18, 2013 - 12:04 am]: Small passenger jet crash in Atlanta. Man posts Vine video of apparent fire (looks like a bonfire). Vine (or tweet) gets picked up by breaking news outlets all over the world. Man turns out to be another young person working in PR. I've seen this kind of thing dozens of times now. https://vine.co/v/h0JpUriwtlv https://twitter.com/drewhawkins
Rollo [December 18, 2013 - 2:39 am]: An Interesting video mentioned by Sofia Smallstorm on John Friends "Realist Report" Radio Show today ----> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXy6gfXxxn8
columjaddica [December 18, 2013 - 3:03 am]: @rollo Interesting video, comes at the same time as new videos about the Sandy Hook choir at the Superbowl being the same children as the dead. I'm looking at all of it with a sceptical eye, at least that the people releasing the videos are suspicious to me for some reason. This is coming from somebody who was "awakened" to fakery by SHE. I'm very skeptical of everybody reporting on SHE
columjaddica [December 18, 2013 - 3:05 am]: The idea in the video is interesting, but it's interesting to me because I never noticed this after spending SO MUCH TIME looking at everything about it. But there are things about the Colorado shooting recently that have me looking back to things from SHE because they are so familiar.
columjaddica [December 18, 2013 - 3:08 am]: The only thing that seems for sure (to me) is that very strange things happen in Sandy Hook (Newtown). The whole state of Connecticut creeps me out at this point.
columjaddica [December 18, 2013 - 3:55 am]: On the Jew subject, it seems obvious to me that they are bringing the Israeli experience to American audiences. That's why we get all of these links between Israeli security agencies and the Boston PD, things like that show up in the most obvious places in all of the recent psyops.
columjaddica [December 18, 2013 - 3:57 am]: We get all of these random active-shooter incidents that are not presented as terrorism (although I've seen articles attempting to blur lines lately). But really, these are the same kind of random attacks that they get in Israel. I don't absolve Jews for their roles in these things, it's hard to not notice them in places that involve the deception.
columjaddica [December 18, 2013 - 3:59 am]: The whole state of Israel was a test case for this new campaign of fake stories. It really seems to me that there is more fakery, and more blatant than before a year or so ago. I think they are taking lessons from Israel and applying them in new situations.
columjaddica [December 18, 2013 - 4:00 am]: Most of the citizens of Israel would be not in on this, I would think.
aralsea [December 18, 2013 - 7:21 am]: Big H revisionists discuss the state of affairs [2 hrs] http://thewhitenetwork.com/data/audio/tWn_The_Heretics_Hour_20131216.mp3
ArmunnRigh [December 18, 2013 - 7:54 am]: @wanda: Excuse me Wanda, but this I find inadmissible in an open forum, like Ab's site is. Yesterday, you seem to have posted on Mami's Shit chat:
«Dec 17, 11:14 PM - Fucking idiots over on Fakeology... fucking retard gatekeepers. Evil doesn't exist... the Queen of England is a puppet, she's not evil... WTF? Hello... puppets are evil... they carry out evil orders.»
ArmunnRigh [December 18, 2013 - 7:54 am]: @wanda: This seems to be related to your exchange with Tom-Dalpra. I take no sides in that exchange (that I only read in what was the next day for me), but I find this action to be as sneaky as a stereotypical jew would behave. Honest people call "idiots" and "retards" to people's faces, or, at the very least, they keep it to themselves. They do not go behind that person's back.
ArmunnRigh [December 18, 2013 - 7:54 am]: @wanda: This is exactly part of what you criticize in the jews, is it not? Then why did you act like one? For the sake of openness and honesty, which are the values Ab built this site with, I think, I cannot let this one slide, wanda - and nor should you, if you find a similar occurrence from any of us.
smj [December 18, 2013 - 8:52 am]: i suppose i am a fucking idiot in a lot a ways; and i will admit to being retarded - still living in serfdom at 40 for example. however, i don't see how this site can be viewed as concerned in gatekeeping.
Jan Erik Hansen [December 18, 2013 - 9:44 am]: A subjective documentary that explores the numerous theories about the hidden meanings within 'Stanley Kubrick (I)' 's Kubrick' 's film The Shining. The film may be over 30 years old but it continues to inspire debate, speculation, and mystery.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfDQu2C4PHM
Jan Erik Hansen [December 18, 2013 - 10:42 am]: The Light Bulb Conspiracy Agenda 21http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kqeiEDjALE
Jan Erik Hansen [December 18, 2013 - 10:42 am]: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kqeiEDjALE
Tom-Dalpra [December 18, 2013 - 1:03 pm]: ho ho ho ''Mami's Shit Chat''?!!! Is that a real forum?? I'm sorry for my part in giving the forum a bad name on there.
Tom-Dalpra [December 18, 2013 - 1:08 pm]: Wanda comes on saying we're avoiding the big issue that is - the Jews are evil and they done it.
Tom-Dalpra [December 18, 2013 - 1:15 pm]: I see the Jews as working like a sponsored minority in a world country of Christians and Muslims, As a minority group they have a heightened sense of vulnerability and are more likely to commit acts of deception as they are there undemocratically on false premises to begin with.
JohnnyClues [December 18, 2013 - 1:36 pm]: @Tom-Dalpra: did you know I'm a " retarded gatekeeper"?????? friggin' news to me? I'm a poet and didn't know it......I knew that one.....but an idiot? shocking news in my world....how about u?
aralsea [December 18, 2013 - 5:04 pm]: I dont think the Queen is "evil" unless it is a learned behaviour. She was born into the position. She has known nothing else. She is my head of state.
Jan Erik Hansen [December 18, 2013 - 5:28 pm]: Three Inquisitors of State http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?act=url&depth=2&hl=no&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=it&tl=en&u=http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tre_Inquisitori_di_Stato&usg=ALkJrhgDoS2gs1CNV4TjZzzEymwDWzlT9w
Jan Erik Hansen [December 18, 2013 - 5:31 pm]: Council of Ten. The judgment of the Ten was conclusive and the council possessed unlimited power of life and death. Was excluded from the hearing anyone, including the ' defendant himself, and the discussion took place only on the basis of the evidence collected. http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?act=url&depth=2&hl=no&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=it&tl=en&u=htt
Rollo [December 18, 2013 - 5:38 pm]: Just watched Room 237...and I thought it was just SK's confession for A11 ----> http://vimeo.com/41891120
Banazir Galbasi [December 18, 2013 - 8:52 pm]: I liked room 237, interesting stuff in it. Certainly regarding the moon.
Dustyash [December 18, 2013 - 8:56 pm]: I too liked Room 237 a lot of hidden messages in there that we are not aware of makes you wonder and I would not be surprized what other things are they doing to prepare in advertising and movies as such?? Predictive Programming subliminal PsyOps mind control without us even knowing it in most cases
Dustyash [December 18, 2013 - 8:57 pm]: Very interesting film highly recommend giving it a watch
columjaddica [December 18, 2013 - 10:30 pm]: George Zimmerman is selling paintings on Ebay, apparently. http://www.ebay.com/itm/George-Zimmerman-original-painting-/111239922810?pt=Art_Paintings&hash=item19e66a847a
ab [December 18, 2013 - 10:50 pm]: @ArmunnRigh: You are doing good detective work. As for @wanda, I am afraid she is being deceived big time and as such is lashing out in a way that makes her message unlistenable. I value your contributions to the forum, as I can see you spend considerable time defending its integrity. :)
ab [December 18, 2013 - 11:07 pm]: @ArmunnRigh: can you listen to some of the mystery babylon series http://fakeologist.com/2013/12/18/jesuits-and-protestantism/ I'd like your opinion on it
JohnnyClues [December 18, 2013 - 11:48 pm]: gunman opened fire at a Reno hospital http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeFL7Ff4y2o
Carole Thomas [December 19, 2013 - 4:46 am]: L ink to a great i terview by fakecloudsinsky
Carole Thomas [December 19, 2013 - 4:46 am]: scientific fraudsters
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGfTIyOu7Xs
Jan Erik Hansen [December 19, 2013 - 7:25 am]: Doge Marin Falier was proclaimed on 11 September 1354 , by 35 votes to 41. He was informed of the election only a few days later, as at Avignon as ambassador to Pope Innocent VI . http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?act=url&depth=2&hl=no&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=it&tl=en&u=http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marino_Faliero&usg=ALkJrhiPzlf0osmTtcaVYI_sZeD3YleviA
Jan Erik Hansen [December 19, 2013 - 7:38 am]: Movers and Shakers of the Sovereign Military Order of Malta http://moversandshakersofthesmom.blogspot.no/
aralsea [December 19, 2013 - 10:31 am]: Phil Hendrie interview (mentioned by Videre) go to 23:00 min mark to start http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCickvz70PY
ArmunnRigh [December 19, 2013 - 10:33 am]: @ab: I wish I didn't need to defend it. I will listen to that show you mentioned and let you know what I find, sure.
smj [December 19, 2013 - 2:01 pm]: this dour connasse has been neck deep in fakery for well over twenty years it seems. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPDKBCn99Zo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xc4ilzx8ZHY
columjaddica [December 19, 2013 - 5:10 pm]: I've been listening to some of the earlier mystery Babylon series. My only problem is that he states that Christianity and Judaism are hated by the mystery religion, but it seems to me that they have controlled and promoted Christianity for a long time. So why build an enemy that you hate?
knagjak [December 19, 2013 - 5:48 pm]: well the modern go to church Christianity the one where church gets a tax write off. Vatican church that changed the Sabbath too sunday. I think the Bible is what they hate. Christianity is a religion branched from the bible but i think true Christians have their own interpretation of the bible and dont follow a so called "mediator"/preacher.
columjaddica [December 19, 2013 - 7:25 pm]: @knagjak: That makes sense, people that worship alone or in small groups don't lend themselves to being easily propagandized
ab [December 19, 2013 - 8:20 pm]: @ArmunnRigh: ok great. the radio show I mentioned is just a gateway into an entire series...I wasn't necessarily singling out the one episode
Anders-Lindman [December 20, 2013 - 1:32 am]: ab, there are irritating plopping sounds in the archived audio. You could check the audio tools you are using. Could be some nasty subliminal audio effects added by the editing software. Or even something the 'cabal' has added. :D
Anders-Lindman [December 20, 2013 - 1:33 am]: There may not be many ordinary listeners to your show compared to the big one's like the Alex Jones show but rest assured that the cabal and its related intelligence agencies are listening in closely.
columjaddica [December 20, 2013 - 2:23 am]: MITT: Official Trailer. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLHxbemvpxY#t=28
columjaddica [December 20, 2013 - 2:29 am]: @Anders-Lindman "In 2010, the DHS National Operations Center established a Media Monitoring Capability (MMC). According to an internal agency document, MMC is tasked with “leveraging news stories, media reports and postings on social media sites…
columjaddica [December 20, 2013 - 2:29 am]: for operationally relevant data, information, analysis, and imagery.” The definition of operationally relevant data includes “media reports that reflect adversely on DHS and response activities,” “partisan or agenda-driven sites,” and a final category ambiguously labeled “research/studies, etc.”
columjaddica [December 20, 2013 - 2:29 am]: Thats from this excellent blog (if you like privacy issues) http://massprivatei.blogspot.com/
Anders-Lindman [December 20, 2013 - 3:28 am]: @columjaddica: Aha, they even admit that they are monitoring and maybe even infiltrating media (depending of what 'leveraging' means here)! Ha ha.
columjaddica [December 20, 2013 - 3:32 am]: Yeah, I wish there was more information about how DHS works. I don't know what office that monitoring comes from but I think that 'Training, Exercise, and Doctrine - Exercise Unit Program (TED-EX)' is where many of the fake stories come from.
columjaddica [December 20, 2013 - 3:32 am]: I follow a few insider DHS blogs but they are not writing honestly
ab [December 20, 2013 - 6:17 am]: @Anders-Lindman: It's cheaper to say they're doing something than to actually do it. Fear keeps many people in check. Old trick.
Jan Erik Hansen [December 20, 2013 - 7:43 am]: London Theatre Drill / Hoax (no one was hurt) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpiie7AMvhQ
Anders-Lindman [December 20, 2013 - 9:08 am]: @ab: Yes, one has to look at realistic possibilities. Nevertheless, I like to on purpose sometimes speculate about the most outrageously paranoid concepts. Just to push the envelope to include a full spectrum field of possibilities. Rational paranoia management.
Jan Erik Hansen [December 20, 2013 - 10:30 am]: You Came Here To Participate In A Slave Rebellion - Mark Passio Talks to Truth Warrior - 16/12/13 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hq4Laz1zmmI
knagjak [December 20, 2013 - 11:24 am]: :help::help::warning:B)
Tom-Dalpra [December 20, 2013 - 1:50 pm]: And In England - part of a balcony collapses at The Apollo. Just saw one report which echoed The Batman shooting witnesses and other ops - ''At first we thought it was part of the show'' and ''Then the room filled with smoke'' Aha! Hey presto! alaa cazam!! Cue dodgy bandage and coincidentally on-the scene BBC crew. ''It was unbelievable''.
Jan Erik Hansen [December 20, 2013 - 2:02 pm]: ;)
Tom-Dalpra [December 20, 2013 - 6:28 pm]: I cringe slightly at my apparent love of liz and the duke, maybe I am a subconscious gatekeeper haha, me rantingvhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kV6BSsTGbI4&feature=c4-overview&list=UUAF5i5zuNr70-9Givn_46SQ
JohnnyClues [December 20, 2013 - 7:17 pm]: @Tom-Dalpra: "Rig By" - Clever bunch lol.....Good Rant.
Ravenlegend [December 20, 2013 - 7:29 pm]: @Ab, any plans to bring back a stream channel? Feel like I'm missing out...
Anders-Lindman [December 20, 2013 - 9:47 pm]: Winter solstice, 2013-12-21 -> 2+0+1+3, 6+6, 7+7+7 -> 666 and 777. I think ab is correct, that the cabal actually use special numbers all over the place.
columjaddica [December 21, 2013 - 1:19 am]: @AB, I understand that they could use fear, but do you really think that they don't monitor the outer fringes and sharp edges of conspiracy theories? I don't see why they would ignore us when conspiracy theories are moving and fluid all of the time, with some large changes in belief over the course of the last year. There are a LOT more people looking at these events this way then a year ago
columjaddica [December 21, 2013 - 4:32 am]: Lots of trivial and divisive distractions this week. Check out this one that's trending right now, started by a PR firm via Twitter (what else?) http://i.imgur.com/ky14Oop.png" title="Hosted by imgur.com" />
columjaddica [December 21, 2013 - 4:34 am]: The Zimmerman painting on Ebay is another one, turns out that the image is based on an image from Getty. This guy thinks Zimm projected it onto a canvas and painted it but I'm leaning towards a photoshop based on the getty image and inserted into Zimms Ebay pics http://frederickleatherman.com/2013/12/18/the-plot-thickens-regarding-the-provenance-of-zimmermans-original-painting/
columjaddica [December 21, 2013 - 4:35 am]: Oh, and the Senate fast-tracked the NDAA 2014 through while nobody was looking. http://www.activistpost.com/2013/12/senate-passes-ndaa-2014-via-fast.html
ArmunnRigh [December 21, 2013 - 5:31 am]: @Tom-Dalpra: Your shadow is too encompassing! The newspapers all shrink into darkness as you cover the light :D
ArmunnRigh [December 21, 2013 - 5:37 am]: @Tom-Dalpra: And a pity that the sound capture at your Nutmeg reunion concert is saturated and your voice is lost there. The songs sound pretty interesting.
aralsea [December 21, 2013 - 5:43 am]: Was 9/11 itself a distraction for something else? What else happened that day?
Tom-Dalpra [December 21, 2013 - 5:59 am]: 9/11 was the distraction
Tom-Dalpra [December 21, 2013 - 6:03 am]: made me smile though aralsea. Fair question.
Tom-Dalpra [December 21, 2013 - 6:04 am]: @ArmunnRigh: sorry for the bad lighting!
ab [December 21, 2013 - 7:46 am]: @Ravenlegend: we have two streams: http://s1.fakeologist.com and http://s2.fakeologist.com
ab [December 21, 2013 - 7:48 am]: @columjaddica: Of course the intelligence agencies monitor all forums. We are a feedback system, instant in fact. Heck, anyone in this chat COULD be employed either directly or indirectly.
Tom-Dalpra [December 21, 2013 - 8:39 am]: I got a letter from Her Majesty the other day. A tax rebate. The total?
Tom-Dalpra [December 21, 2013 - 8:40 am]: £1133
Tom-Dalpra [December 21, 2013 - 8:41 am]: 1) are we not all employed by the system?
Tom-Dalpra [December 21, 2013 - 8:41 am]: 2) are they playing with my head?
Anders-Lindman [December 21, 2013 - 12:04 pm]: Has Ace Baker been a guest on Fakeoligist? I think that would be very interesting. His explanations of the no planes are overall excellent. September Clues is also great, but not as impressive as Ace Baker's info.
Jan Erik Hansen [December 21, 2013 - 1:33 pm]: http://njbullying.org/documents/hazing-EDarticleFinkel2002.pdf
Videre Licet [December 21, 2013 - 2:46 pm]: I loved the Sofia Smallwood's Youtube presentation on Sandy Hook. It gives great insight on the packaging, delivery and reasoning of the psyop. It also sheds light on why we are being led down various rabbit holes. I can't help feeling we too are a part of their big experiment. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqu5Yu6AdQY&feature=player_embedded
Videre Licet [December 21, 2013 - 2:47 pm]: Correction: Sofia Smallstorm
Videre Licet [December 21, 2013 - 2:47 pm]: Yet another character...
Videre Licet [December 21, 2013 - 2:47 pm]: Love the name.
Videre Licet [December 21, 2013 - 2:47 pm]: ;)
Videre Licet [December 21, 2013 - 2:51 pm]: Markus Allen Goldstein (Goldbug) aka Ed(ucation) Chiarini (latin: illuminated face), aka the Living Tiki - Celtic Rebel - Scott and various other characters
Videre Licet [December 21, 2013 - 2:52 pm]: Enjoying the show! 8o
Videre Licet [December 21, 2013 - 2:53 pm]: Social engineering! What an interesting study!
Videre Licet [December 21, 2013 - 2:57 pm]: :o):idea::o):idea::o):idea::o):idea::o)
Jan Erik Hansen [December 21, 2013 - 3:04 pm]: Videre U are on to something there ! :idea:
Videre Licet [December 21, 2013 - 3:11 pm]: Thanks Jan-E! I LOVE you guyz!
smj [December 21, 2013 - 3:29 pm]: @videre licet-- my oxford latin dictionary is no help. do you have source for chiarini=ill. face. in spanish and port. face can be cara. but the little bit of latin that forced on me, face was facie--as in jimmy fatzer's prima facie. i really am curious.
smj [December 21, 2013 - 3:42 pm]: edit: my pocket oxford is no help.
Jan Erik Hansen [December 21, 2013 - 3:57 pm]: By definition, the scriptures of the Manes, also known as the Aryans, also known as the Samaritans and Sephardi and later known as the Jews have never claimed to represent a covenant of the “Chosen People” with the Father of Greatness, also known as the Divine Creator. Instead, the core covenant and claim of being the “Chosen People” was with Seytan, also known as Satan, also known as Saba
Jan Erik Hansen [December 21, 2013 - 3:58 pm]: also known as Sabaoth, also known as God, also known as the Father of Darkness.
Jan Erik Hansen [December 21, 2013 - 3:59 pm]: http://one-heaven.org/canons/sovereign_law/article/89.html
Videre Licet [December 21, 2013 - 4:02 pm]: @smj: http://www.houseofnames.com/Chiarini-history?A=54323-292
smj [December 21, 2013 - 4:19 pm]: @videre thanks for the link and your courage.
Jan Erik Hansen [December 21, 2013 - 4:22 pm]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xbp6umQT58A
ab [December 21, 2013 - 4:24 pm]: @Anders-Lindman: Ace is disinfo.... I don't mind you bringing it up, but it seems you continually bring up disinfo that we've long since dismissed.
smj [December 21, 2013 - 4:26 pm]: @jan eric -- i'm facinated by the similarities between hermes and jooows. ole herm was the mess. of the gods- the media- also god of boundaries- nwo- god of commerce, thieves, travelers, sports, herdsmen-- to guide the sheep-, orators , wit, and literature. i think hermes is a jooow.
Jan Erik Hansen [December 21, 2013 - 4:31 pm]: Anders is MR SMITH ! :error:
smj [December 21, 2013 - 4:35 pm]: mr. smith the head of the boy rangers?
Anders-Lindman [December 21, 2013 - 4:52 pm]: @ab: Baker's info about mini nukes smacks of disinfo I agree. But even if that's the case it would still be interesting to hear his replies to your critique of his claims!
Jan Erik Hansen [December 21, 2013 - 4:52 pm]: Mark Passio - "New" age bullshit and the suppression of the sacred masculine - extended with slides http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q51l_E8Tlp0
Anders-Lindman [December 21, 2013 - 4:53 pm]: @Jan Erik Hansen: 7 hours! Yikes, will check it out though.
ab [December 21, 2013 - 5:12 pm]: @Jan Erik Hansen: I was looking for that on his site. I'll have to listen to it over time
Videre Licet [December 21, 2013 - 6:03 pm]: @smj: courage?? 8o
Jan Erik Hansen [December 21, 2013 - 6:10 pm]: Jim FESTER :-) http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ufQHjhi8OQE/UH9yWEDVsTI/AAAAAAAAAKA/kzsECCOQYkY/s1600/festeranimationblogspot1.gif
Jan Erik Hansen [December 21, 2013 - 6:18 pm]: MR FESTER http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/356/6/4/fester_addams_by_foxfire141-d35fc88.jpg
Jan Erik Hansen [December 21, 2013 - 6:24 pm]: http://www.nobeliefs.com/fallacies.htm
Jan Erik Hansen [December 21, 2013 - 6:32 pm]: A List Of Fallacious Arguments : http://www.don-lindsay-archive.org/skeptic/arguments.html
Jan Erik Hansen [December 21, 2013 - 7:54 pm]: Appeal to ridicule (also called appeal to mockery or the horse laugh[1]), is an informal fallacy which presents an opponent's argument as absurd, ridiculous, or in any way humorous, to the specific end of a foregone conclusion that the argument lacks any substance which would merit consideration.
Appeal to ridicule is often found in the form of comparing a nuanced circumstance or argument to a l
Jan Erik Hansen [December 21, 2013 - 7:55 pm]: Appeal to ridicule is often found in the form of comparing a nuanced circumstance or argument to a laughably commonplace occurrence or to some other irrelevancy on the basis of comedic timing, wordplay, or making an opponent and their argument the object of a joke. This is a rhetorical tactic that mocks an opponent's argument or standpoint, attempting to inspire an emotional reaction (making it a
Jan Erik Hansen [December 21, 2013 - 7:55 pm]: attempting to inspire an emotional reaction (making it a type of appeal to emotion) in the audience and to highlight any counter-intuitive aspects of that argument, making it appear foolish and contrary to common sense. This is typically done by making a mockery of the argument's foundation that represents it in an uncharitable and overly simplified way.
Ravenlegend [December 21, 2013 - 8:21 pm]: @ab I was meaning the Video streams, not the audio.
ab [December 21, 2013 - 8:21 pm]: @Ravenlegend: I don't have a video stream
Anders-Lindman [December 21, 2013 - 9:01 pm]: Any show today?
Videre Licet [December 21, 2013 - 9:06 pm]: @Anders-Lindman: 10 min
Videre Licet [December 21, 2013 - 9:06 pm]: 5
Anders-Lindman [December 21, 2013 - 9:06 pm]: Ok, great!
smj [December 21, 2013 - 9:09 pm]: @videre sorry, bad habit from listening to the no agenda show
ArmunnRigh [December 21, 2013 - 9:10 pm]: Hey there, guys!
Rollo [December 21, 2013 - 9:10 pm]: Good Eveving
Rollo [December 21, 2013 - 9:11 pm]: T2 Evening
jimbo [December 21, 2013 - 9:12 pm]: Good evening everyone.
Rollo [December 21, 2013 - 9:17 pm]: Professional Clowns don't come around
Rollo [December 21, 2013 - 9:19 pm]: He's only regular because I put him onto the Fruit & Veggie juices
Videre Licet [December 21, 2013 - 9:29 pm]: @smj: thought you were trying to foreshadow...
Atlanta Bill [December 21, 2013 - 9:29 pm]: Hi, Ab Irato!
Dustyash [December 21, 2013 - 9:30 pm]: Hey AB
Dustyash [December 21, 2013 - 9:30 pm]: Your the best
Atlanta Bill [December 21, 2013 - 9:30 pm]: Hi, Dusty!
Videre Licet [December 21, 2013 - 9:30 pm]: @Rollo: hahahahahaha:D
ArmunnRigh [December 21, 2013 - 9:31 pm]: @Dustyash: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oomCIXGzsR0
Dustyash [December 21, 2013 - 9:31 pm]: Hey hw is it going welcome everybody cheers
Dustyash [December 21, 2013 - 9:31 pm]: Hello hell;o
Dustyash [December 21, 2013 - 9:31 pm]: hello
Atlanta Bill [December 21, 2013 - 9:32 pm]: Ab, why should the global spy network be built around a hub. There are other architectures. I think it's more like a collusion around defending a ruling class.
Dustyash [December 21, 2013 - 9:32 pm]: Hey Armunn
Atlanta Bill [December 21, 2013 - 9:32 pm]: Thanks for the à la Fetzer heads-up, Ab!
ArmunnRigh [December 21, 2013 - 9:32 pm]: @Atlanta Bill: That is exactly how I think it is built
Atlanta Bill [December 21, 2013 - 9:33 pm]: I'm bad about forgetting my question mark :(
Atlanta Bill [December 21, 2013 - 9:33 pm]: The global spies stay in the same three-star hotels, belong to the same country clubs.
Atlanta Bill [December 21, 2013 - 9:34 pm]: I think it's been going on since the fall of the Bastille.
Dustyash [December 21, 2013 - 9:34 pm]: I have been doing some digging about Grieving for a loved one and I think they are secretly have designed a PsyOp around that topic.
ArmunnRigh [December 21, 2013 - 9:35 pm]: far earlier
Anders-Lindman [December 21, 2013 - 9:35 pm]: I have heard that Hitler was trained in England.
Atlanta Bill [December 21, 2013 - 9:35 pm]: @Dusty, they like to get us at our most vulnerable.
columjaddica [December 21, 2013 - 9:35 pm]: I'd love to hear about that Dusty
Dustyash [December 21, 2013 - 9:36 pm]: Yeah it is a funny thing
Atlanta Bill [December 21, 2013 - 9:36 pm]: Some foreign power(s) let the German Army get away with a lot more than it should have when Hitler started spying for them.
columjaddica [December 21, 2013 - 9:37 pm]: There is certainly something strange about the examples of grieving that we get lately. I think they are going for a change in behavior and it's based off of the US military resilience program, which is now being pushed to everybody not just the military (they tested it on over a million troops, suicides went up, they called it a success)
Atlanta Bill [December 21, 2013 - 9:37 pm]: Obama was never part of the Civil Rights movement. He began his career throwing poor Black People out of their homes for the Chicago realtors that wanted to gentrify the area.
Atlanta Bill [December 21, 2013 - 9:38 pm]: @Ab, it takes a long time to scope out a website.
Atlanta Bill [December 21, 2013 - 9:39 pm]: What's the topic?
ab [December 21, 2013 - 9:39 pm]: https://news.google.ca/news/section?pz=1&cf=all&q=9%2F11&siidp=0839f11f6640af3290fc39344714bc249cc5&ar=1387678116
Videre Licet [December 21, 2013 - 9:39 pm]: @ab: :favorite: your rant!
Atlanta Bill [December 21, 2013 - 9:40 pm]: @Columjaddica, I think you're onto something.
Atlanta Bill [December 21, 2013 - 9:41 pm]: That's always been an option for the perps--to take over Saudi Arabia and run it directly.
columjaddica [December 21, 2013 - 9:41 pm]: Resilience is a huge keyword, I've found it tied into so many things lately
Dustyash [December 21, 2013 - 9:41 pm]: yes you are on the right track for sure Like sandy hook they claim that all these kids die yet the victims like the fathers and mothers are not really upset the actors are desensitizing us to death and grieving.
columjaddica [December 21, 2013 - 9:42 pm]: Boston had a lot of the same. Loss of limb? Loss of child? Big smiles! Boston STRONG! If you google resiliency and trauma (and maybe shootings or whatever) it will turn up interesting things in psychology
Atlanta Bill [December 21, 2013 - 9:43 pm]: Sandy Hook and the Boston Marathon had as its objective adding resilience statistics to the database.
columjaddica [December 21, 2013 - 9:44 pm]: It's like they are putting us through trials before revealing the truth
Atlanta Bill [December 21, 2013 - 9:44 pm]: That's the same with the major newspapers. JFK researchers noticed that. They don't name names.
Atlanta Bill [December 21, 2013 - 9:45 pm]: Corporation Wiki is a good research source. http://www.corporationwiki.com/
Dustyash [December 21, 2013 - 9:47 pm]: So true Ab thumbs up there you are so right about Christmas!
Atlanta Bill [December 21, 2013 - 9:47 pm]: I may be going insane with the holiday, but I've been experiencing people being less reasonable as we approach Christmas.
Dustyash [December 21, 2013 - 9:50 pm]: So true it is a real joke it is all just a movie that day
Atlanta Bill [December 21, 2013 - 9:51 pm]: If there were 15,000 family members who are grieving, they've probably been got to. A lot of the Sandy Hook families worked for the Government or major corporations. Yet, they showed up in jogging clothes at the school scene.
Anders-Lindman [December 21, 2013 - 9:51 pm]: Do they claim that the Saudi government/kingdom sponsored Al Qaeda? Is that why they can be sued?
ArmunnRigh [December 21, 2013 - 9:51 pm]: «When myth becomes the truth, we print it.»
Dustyash [December 21, 2013 - 9:52 pm]: And the rewriting of history begins as well
Atlanta Bill [December 21, 2013 - 9:52 pm]: Press TV gets a lot of input from Veterans Today.
Atlanta Bill [December 21, 2013 - 9:53 pm]: How is it that German Nazis AND Jewish Zionists have both been involved in the psyops beginning with the JFK assassination? Aren't they working together?
Atlanta Bill [December 21, 2013 - 9:55 pm]: Osama bin Laden supposedly had a reputation as a Muslim fundamentalist (Wahhabi) from before 9/11.
Rollo [December 21, 2013 - 9:55 pm]: Osama was blamed very quickly on 9/11...its no Joke
Rollo [December 21, 2013 - 9:56 pm]: Osama is your lone Gunman with 3 names...
Atlanta Bill [December 21, 2013 - 9:56 pm]: Osama's personality changed according to which community he was supposed to appeal to. A little like Obama.
columjaddica [December 21, 2013 - 9:56 pm]: On Osama, I watched a ton of PBS in 2000 and 2001 and they were dropping his name left and right before 9/11. Charlie Rose, etc. I remember thinking "This guy's a mover and shaker, bet he shows up again". Obviously they were just planting the idea. I know about the USS Cole but he was getting mentions far more frequently than you'd expect.
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Rollo [December 21, 2013 - 9:57 pm]: Bill Cooper said Osama was being set-up in June 2001
Anders-Lindman [December 21, 2013 - 9:58 pm]: After 9/11 Al Qaeda became a kind of monopoly terrorist "brand" :D
Atlanta Bill [December 21, 2013 - 9:59 pm]: I had a friend who worked for the Ford Foundation, treating very smart and creative people to a tour of the city here. They cultivate people with talent.
ArmunnRigh [December 21, 2013 - 9:59 pm]: sulleiman abu gaith means sulleiman son of gaith. Abu mean father in arabic and in a name it means that the name that follows it is the name of the father
Atlanta Bill [December 21, 2013 - 10:00 pm]: @Anders, didn't I see somewhere that the name "Al Qaeda" had been copyrighted?
Anders-Lindman [December 21, 2013 - 10:01 pm]: @Atlanta Bill: You mean trademarked?
Atlanta Bill [December 21, 2013 - 10:03 pm]: Yes, trademarked. My mistake.
Dustyash [December 21, 2013 - 10:03 pm]: Hey Banazir
Atlanta Bill [December 21, 2013 - 10:03 pm]: Apparently abu-Ghaith is a real name. Ghaith غيث
Anders-Lindman [December 21, 2013 - 10:03 pm]: Al Qaeda trademarks: http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=toc&state=4804%3Aprqm8p.1.1&p_search=searchss&p_L=50&BackReference=&p_plural=yes&p_s_PARA1=&p_tagrepl~%3A=PARA1%24LD&expr=PARA1+AND+PARA2&p_s_PARA2=al+qaeda&p_tagrepl~%3A=PARA2%24COMB&p_op_ALL=AND&a_default=search&a_search=Submit+Query&a_search=Submit+Query
Atlanta Bill [December 21, 2013 - 10:04 pm]: Ghaith can mean "the slower one"
Dustyash [December 21, 2013 - 10:04 pm]: The bullshit bullhorn speech hilarious
Anders-Lindman [December 21, 2013 - 10:04 pm]: oops, broken link, sorry about that
Dustyash [December 21, 2013 - 10:06 pm]: I need to make some coffee sounds good a little break
Atlanta Bill [December 21, 2013 - 10:06 pm]: Hey, they have tens of $billions in official money and trillions in black budgets to pull us around. Probably there's a new psyop whenever they want to test a new system.
Dustyash [December 21, 2013 - 10:06 pm]: LOL
Atlanta Bill [December 21, 2013 - 10:06 pm]: How's the storm, Ab?
Atlanta Bill [December 21, 2013 - 10:09 pm]: @Ab, how are the junior ranks of the global spy networks going to know what's really going on if we don't let them monitor us by going onto Google(c)? That was Mae Brussell's point.
Atlanta Bill [December 21, 2013 - 10:10 pm]: Thanks, Ab, that's a good tip.
Atlanta Bill [December 21, 2013 - 10:11 pm]: http://tiptheweb.org/
Atlanta Bill [December 21, 2013 - 10:13 pm]: Tip the Web should have a small magazine.
Anders-Lindman [December 21, 2013 - 10:16 pm]: I think I will tip Google.com via tiptheweb. Just kidding!
Atlanta Bill [December 21, 2013 - 10:17 pm]: John Friend will always get around to rehabilitating his hero, Adolf Hitler.
Atlanta Bill [December 21, 2013 - 10:17 pm]: There are democratic Jews and there are nazi Jews.
Banazir Galbasi [December 21, 2013 - 10:21 pm]: Is Simon Shack a Jew? >:-D
columjaddica [December 21, 2013 - 10:21 pm]: They still don't get smoke right in a lot of the psyops
Anders-Lindman [December 21, 2013 - 10:22 pm]: I have a new theory that the demon faces in the WTC towers were real! http://www.moillusions.com/wp-content/uploads/photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5639/2020/400/Picturespa1.jpg
Banazir Galbasi [December 21, 2013 - 10:22 pm]: Was Jeremy on Hoaxbusters the other day?
columjaddica [December 21, 2013 - 10:22 pm]: You'd like to look up Aquino if you were a fan of William Cooper's Bystery Babylon. Most bizzare person
Dustyash [December 21, 2013 - 10:23 pm]: Superman 2 Richard Donner 9/11 cut very strange movie if anyone has not seen that very strange
Dustyash [December 21, 2013 - 10:25 pm]: Room 237 great documentary movie as well
Banazir Galbasi [December 21, 2013 - 10:25 pm]: Wasn't the RKO company also animators for Disney?
Anders-Lindman [December 21, 2013 - 10:25 pm]: Geiger counters can detect gamma radiation. That's just high frequency light!
JeremyG [December 21, 2013 - 10:26 pm]: Yes I was on Hoaxbusters
Dustyash [December 21, 2013 - 10:26 pm]: Very interesting caller
Atlanta Bill [December 21, 2013 - 10:26 pm]: @Ab, the possibility that all the nuclear weapons are fake came into my head about 20 years ago. There's too much counter-evidence. There's an amateur physics expert that claims that nuclear weapons won't explode unless they're dropped on the right spot on the planet at just the right time according to certain astronomical criteria.
ArmunnRigh [December 21, 2013 - 10:29 pm]: @Atlanta Bill: call in to the show - skype name: fakeologist
Atlanta Bill [December 21, 2013 - 10:29 pm]: What powers France if the nuclear power plants aren't real?
httpsjoeyz.myopenid.com [December 21, 2013 - 10:30 pm]: Christmas shopping is mind control!
Anders-Lindman [December 21, 2013 - 10:30 pm]: @Atlanta Bill: I think some nuclear power plants are in reality water fuel cell plants, and other are boiling stations.
Dustyash [December 21, 2013 - 10:30 pm]: Wal-Mart is mind control
jimbo [December 21, 2013 - 10:31 pm]: I recall Jon Eric Phelps said that theA-bomb cand only detonate in place on a 33 degree meridian on earth. It can't detonate in the air. He said the Jesuits set off the bomb in Hiroshima.
Dustyash [December 21, 2013 - 10:31 pm]: Corporations in general are all big forms of mind control
Anders-Lindman [December 21, 2013 - 10:34 pm]: Original Meyer Water Fuel Cell c.1990 -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOGAkRkCWfA
columjaddica [December 21, 2013 - 10:35 pm]: They dump a LOT of hot water into Lake Erie in Monroe County. One of the larger coal plants right next to Fermi 2. It would be interesting to re-read "The day we almost lost Detroit" about Fermi 1
ab [December 21, 2013 - 10:35 pm]: http://harpers.org/archive/1998/11/the-radioactive-boy-scout/
Dustyash [December 21, 2013 - 10:37 pm]: The Golden Rule He who has the Gold Makes The Rule!
ab [December 21, 2013 - 10:39 pm]: http://www.cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?t=1424&p=2388703#p2388703
smj [December 21, 2013 - 10:41 pm]: i saw hoi's post as well. the albedo argument is my favorite.
jimbo [December 21, 2013 - 10:43 pm]: Here is a quote fron Tesla on matter.
jimbo [December 21, 2013 - 10:43 pm]: “My second discovery was of a physical truth of the greatest importance. As I have searched the entire scientific records in more than a half dozen languages for a long time without finding the least anticipation, I consider myself the original discoverer of this truth, which can be expressed by the statement: There is no energy in matter other than that received from the environment.” — Nik
jimbo [December 21, 2013 - 10:46 pm]: More info on the Case Against The Atom, by Dewey B. Larson here http://atomicjava.wordpress.com
smj [December 21, 2013 - 10:47 pm]: i was introduced to jan irvin thru joe rogan's podcast. that makes me nervous.
Banazir Galbasi [December 21, 2013 - 10:49 pm]: Jim Fetzer is doing his best. Give him time... :-)
ArmunnRigh [December 21, 2013 - 10:49 pm]: @Banazir Galbasi: LOL
Rollo [December 21, 2013 - 10:50 pm]: The Gatekeeper term is too kind....I prefer Paid Liar
columjaddica [December 21, 2013 - 10:50 pm]: I tried to listen to Fetzer but his laugh drives me crazy. I'll stick to second-hand accounts
Rollo [December 21, 2013 - 10:50 pm]: I used Scumbag before butg apparently thats Ad Hominem :)
Ravenlegend [December 21, 2013 - 10:51 pm]: @ab who was running the Justin.tv channel then??
Atlanta Bill [December 21, 2013 - 10:52 pm]: Without evidence to the contrary, I assume that people such as Jim Fetzer are stirred by the communities they come from. Fetzer is close to academia and tends to believe Democratic politicians (he sent Barack Obama's campaign $200).
httpsjoeyz.myopenid.com [December 21, 2013 - 10:52 pm]: On FATzer's last show he was using a "straw-man" argument against
Clue's position.
Rollo [December 21, 2013 - 10:52 pm]: along with Noam
Atlanta Bill [December 21, 2013 - 10:53 pm]: Fetzer's logic is not impeccable.
Banazir Galbasi [December 21, 2013 - 10:53 pm]: Good Man JeremyG. By the way where do they put the lights on the satellites? What fuel do they run on?
Atlanta Bill [December 21, 2013 - 10:53 pm]: I started listening to Fetzer when he was on the
Atlanta Bill [December 21, 2013 - 10:54 pm]: "Dynamic Duo"
Atlanta Bill [December 21, 2013 - 10:54 pm]: "Dynamic Duo" was sponsored by the same network as Alex Jones.
httpsjoeyz.myopenid.com [December 21, 2013 - 10:54 pm]: "Dynamic Poo"
httpsjoeyz.myopenid.com [December 21, 2013 - 10:55 pm]: I listened to them far tooo long!!!
Atlanta Bill [December 21, 2013 - 10:56 pm]: I used to call into "Dynamic Duo". Sometimes some warmed-over Alex Jones regulars would appear as guests. The Libertarian "movement" is a big influence on most of the people who Fetzer deals with.
Atlanta Bill [December 21, 2013 - 10:57 pm]: I had some personal telephone chats with Jim Fetzer for a while. I think he's on the level. Just not very flexible in his thinking.
Banazir Galbasi [December 21, 2013 - 10:59 pm]: anyone else having problems with the chat not scrolling down and refreshing?
httpsjoeyz.myopenid.com [December 21, 2013 - 11:02 pm]: Bill, Perhaps Jim is on the up + up, I tuned in for quite a few years...now it's getting tedious.
Atlanta Bill [December 21, 2013 - 11:02 pm]: That's another facet of the news business. They sometimes have to make up news to keep their viewership.
ArmunnRigh [December 21, 2013 - 11:02 pm]: @Banazir Galbasi: not here, try refreshing
Atlanta Bill [December 21, 2013 - 11:04 pm]: Fetzer gets stuck on one facet of the clampdown for a time, then jumps to another. He sticks close to his literary research.
smj [December 21, 2013 - 11:04 pm]: you'd think those weird symbols that those logicians use would help jimmy figure this 911 stuff out.
Atlanta Bill [December 21, 2013 - 11:04 pm]: I lost my sound (something I did caused it) and had to log out and log in again.
Atlanta Bill [December 21, 2013 - 11:06 pm]: I like to listen to Fetzer's logic-and-scientific-reasoning spiel, but he's so locked into what he learned in his academic training!
Atlanta Bill [December 21, 2013 - 11:06 pm]: Yes, cancer research and theology. They should be ashamed of themselves.
httpsjoeyz.myopenid.com [December 21, 2013 - 11:07 pm]: Jim, wants us to "appeal" his chosen authority figures - e.g.
Willy Fraudregeze, far too often.
Atlanta Bill [December 21, 2013 - 11:08 pm]: I'm totally convince that the lotteries are fixed.
Atlanta Bill [December 21, 2013 - 11:08 pm]: Rigged.
jimbo [December 21, 2013 - 11:10 pm]: Where does all the money for cancer research go, if not to curing cancer? I see a lot of running to raise money for breast cancer lately. Is it to line the pockets of the scammers?
Atlanta Bill [December 21, 2013 - 11:10 pm]: They give the money to people who are in their black-budget programs.
Banazir Galbasi [December 21, 2013 - 11:10 pm]: Clicking refresh is the only way I can see more text. Its not you it's me...
Atlanta Bill [December 21, 2013 - 11:10 pm]: That has to be something on your end, Banazir.
smj [December 21, 2013 - 11:11 pm]: @ atl bill is there a difference between training, let's say, a dog and an academic?
Dustyash [December 21, 2013 - 11:11 pm]: Remember The Conehead big lottery winner lol
ArmunnRigh [December 21, 2013 - 11:12 pm]: @jimbo: to better understand where the money for cancer research goes, I suggest you watching a video called "HIV: fact or fraud" - it is the same model
jimbo [December 21, 2013 - 11:12 pm]: Banazir, try to restart your browser?
httpsjoeyz.myopenid.com [December 21, 2013 - 11:12 pm]: "HIV: fact or fraud" - Outstanding vid
Dustyash [December 21, 2013 - 11:14 pm]: is that the stephen allen film?
httpsjoeyz.myopenid.com [December 21, 2013 - 11:14 pm]: "HIV ='s AIDS Fact or Fraud"
jimbo [December 21, 2013 - 11:14 pm]: Good video HIV:Fact or fraud. But just think of the collosal sum of money people donate to these ops? Then they feel good about themselves for helping their fellow man.
httpsjoeyz.myopenid.com [December 21, 2013 - 11:14 pm]: Steve Stars
httpsjoeyz.myopenid.com [December 21, 2013 - 11:15 pm]: I think
Banazir Galbasi [December 21, 2013 - 11:15 pm]: @jimbo< I should but then I'll be missing the show!
ArmunnRigh [December 21, 2013 - 11:15 pm]: @Banazir Galbasi: open a new tab on your browser and type in: http://fakeologist.com/chat/
ArmunnRigh [December 21, 2013 - 11:16 pm]: @jimbo: of course, but isn't that the same with collections for any religion? The donors always feel they're doing the right and useful thing, but they're feeding the vampires, are they not?
Dustyash [December 21, 2013 - 11:17 pm]: A slave we are all slaves
Dustyash [December 21, 2013 - 11:17 pm]: period
Atlanta Bill [December 21, 2013 - 11:17 pm]: When God comes me in a dream and gives me the winning number, then I'll play the lottery.
ArmunnRigh [December 21, 2013 - 11:18 pm]: @Atlanta Bill: Keep waiting, man :D
jimbo [December 21, 2013 - 11:18 pm]: Armunn, Yes you are right. My town recently had a 5k run for breast cancer. Hundreds showed up. All for the vampires. I felt very bad for them. Poor people.
ArmunnRigh [December 21, 2013 - 11:20 pm]: @jimbo: but they felt better, didn't they? Willing victims. The snakeoil salesman is only guilty of trying to cheat people, but the worst is the people who willing fall for it and then complain they were cheated.
jimbo [December 21, 2013 - 11:21 pm]: What if the people found out the cancer research operations were all frauds? WOw! That would be cool.
ArmunnRigh [December 21, 2013 - 11:21 pm]: @jimbo: would they believe it?
Banazir Galbasi [December 21, 2013 - 11:21 pm]: If I win the Lottery I'm giving it all to Charity. Charity is my favorite escort. ;)
ArmunnRigh [December 21, 2013 - 11:22 pm]: @Banazir Galbasi: Charity must be a lucky girl, I see
httpsjoeyz.myopenid.com [December 21, 2013 - 11:22 pm]: The Lottery is like a religon for the poor - gives them something to believe in.
ArmunnRigh [December 21, 2013 - 11:22 pm]: @httpsjoeyz.myopenid.com: well put
httpsjoeyz.myopenid.com [December 21, 2013 - 11:23 pm]: :-)
smj [December 21, 2013 - 11:24 pm]: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNPQtDS47IE makes more sense now with the brother on the scene
httpsjoeyz.myopenid.com [December 21, 2013 - 11:24 pm]: I go under JoeyZ , but the chat puts in my web id for some reason?????
httpsjoeyz.myopenid.com [December 21, 2013 - 11:26 pm]: MY sound just died
ArmunnRigh [December 21, 2013 - 11:26 pm]: you must change the display name on your wordpress profile, I guess
Videre Licet [December 21, 2013 - 11:26 pm]: mine too
Dustyash [December 21, 2013 - 11:26 pm]: yes same here
ArmunnRigh [December 21, 2013 - 11:26 pm]: yep, the stream died
jimbo [December 21, 2013 - 11:26 pm]: No audio on my end,
Atlanta Bill [December 21, 2013 - 11:26 pm]: My sound died, too.
ArmunnRigh [December 21, 2013 - 11:26 pm]: ab went offline
httpsjoeyz.myopenid.com [December 21, 2013 - 11:26 pm]: Will try latter , thanks
ArmunnRigh [December 21, 2013 - 11:26 pm]: the electricity cuts he warned about, I guess
JeremyG [December 21, 2013 - 11:26 pm]: I got booted
httpsjoeyz.myopenid.com [December 21, 2013 - 11:27 pm]: me too
Dustyash [December 21, 2013 - 11:27 pm]: the elite are listening lol
ArmunnRigh [December 21, 2013 - 11:27 pm]: a nuclear meltdown in Toronto
Dustyash [December 21, 2013 - 11:27 pm]: weird
jimbo [December 21, 2013 - 11:27 pm]: That's why we need free electricity. Tesla style.
httpsjoeyz.myopenid.com [December 21, 2013 - 11:27 pm]: HA, HA,
Dustyash [December 21, 2013 - 11:27 pm]: it was such a good listen as well
httpsjoeyz.myopenid.com [December 21, 2013 - 11:29 pm]: ?Qué pasó?
smj [December 21, 2013 - 11:29 pm]: ab se fue
ArmunnRigh [December 21, 2013 - 11:29 pm]: the end of the world is upon us
httpsjoeyz.myopenid.com [December 21, 2013 - 11:29 pm]: Sí
jimbo [December 21, 2013 - 11:30 pm]: No dude, just the end of the show.
Dustyash [December 21, 2013 - 11:30 pm]: AHH help I am being sucked down!!
Videre Licet [December 21, 2013 - 11:30 pm]: yippeeeee!!!!!!
smj [December 21, 2013 - 11:30 pm]: o fim do mund chego
httpsjoeyz.myopenid.com [December 21, 2013 - 11:30 pm]: Tengo miedo!
ArmunnRigh [December 21, 2013 - 11:30 pm]: he's back
Videre Licet [December 21, 2013 - 11:31 pm]: he's back
jimbo [December 21, 2013 - 11:31 pm]: Dustash, tell your girlfriend to stop them.
ArmunnRigh [December 21, 2013 - 11:31 pm]: don't be afraid, this won't hurt a bit >:-D
smj [December 21, 2013 - 11:31 pm]: disculpe-- o fim do mudo chegou
httpsjoeyz.myopenid.com [December 21, 2013 - 11:31 pm]: BTW - Happy Solstice to all, may your SUN-GOD shine on you.
Videre Licet [December 21, 2013 - 11:31 pm]: ah... c'mon
Videre Licet [December 21, 2013 - 11:31 pm]: B)
ab [December 21, 2013 - 11:32 pm]: we're back
Videre Licet [December 21, 2013 - 11:32 pm]: @ab: thought you might need some cpr or something
ArmunnRigh [December 21, 2013 - 11:32 pm]: let us all praise the lard: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBqe5xvYnNc
Videre Licet [December 21, 2013 - 11:33 pm]: we were starting to worry about you... maybe send out a posseee
smj [December 21, 2013 - 11:33 pm]: that's great, i'm flying to cleveland tomorrow.
ab [December 21, 2013 - 11:33 pm]: http://weather.weatherbug.com/IN/Indianapolis-weather/satellite/satellite-radar.html?zcode=z6286
Videre Licet [December 21, 2013 - 11:34 pm]: what do you know ice in an ice storm
Videre Licet [December 21, 2013 - 11:35 pm]: no weather in california
Videre Licet [December 21, 2013 - 11:35 pm]: we were just shy of 50 when you baled
Videre Licet [December 21, 2013 - 11:35 pm]: dang!!
Banazir Galbasi [December 21, 2013 - 11:36 pm]: test
Videre Licet [December 21, 2013 - 11:36 pm]: or is that "bailed"?
httpsjoeyz.myopenid.com [December 21, 2013 - 11:37 pm]: We get our weather Monday - "they" just started the Chemtrailing this afternoon.
Anders-Lindman [December 21, 2013 - 11:39 pm]: The so-called compensation for Einstein's relativity in satellites is a hoax.
Videre Licet [December 21, 2013 - 11:40 pm]: 18,000 ab
Banazir Galbasi [December 21, 2013 - 11:40 pm]: Concave, yes.
Videre Licet [December 21, 2013 - 11:40 pm]: ;)
ArmunnRigh [December 21, 2013 - 11:41 pm]: close the tab
Atlanta Bill [December 21, 2013 - 11:41 pm]: Things are compartmentalized for the meteorologists, too.
Atlanta Bill [December 21, 2013 - 11:43 pm]: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vNdeY0I34I
Dustyash [December 21, 2013 - 11:43 pm]: my Skype is working like crap
Videre Licet [December 21, 2013 - 11:44 pm]: @Dustyash: always think he's saying dustyRASH
Anders-Lindman [December 21, 2013 - 11:44 pm]: time travel is impossible, the moon is curious though
ArmunnRigh [December 21, 2013 - 11:44 pm]: @Videre Licet: ouch
Videre Licet [December 21, 2013 - 11:45 pm]: hey Armunnn!
ArmunnRigh [December 21, 2013 - 11:45 pm]: it is I, Armunn
Banazir Galbasi [December 21, 2013 - 11:45 pm]: All kinds of paradoxs with time travel. Makes for great movies.
Videre Licet [December 21, 2013 - 11:46 pm]: Man!!! It's been a long week!
ArmunnRigh [December 21, 2013 - 11:46 pm]: @Videre Licet: how so?
ArmunnRigh [December 21, 2013 - 11:46 pm]: @Videre Licet: Xmas stuff?
wolfman9 [December 21, 2013 - 11:47 pm]: Atlanta Bill looks like George Noory!
Videre Licet [December 21, 2013 - 11:47 pm]: i missed "y'all"
ArmunnRigh [December 21, 2013 - 11:47 pm]: @Videre Licet: Oh! Appreciated! :-)
Banazir Galbasi [December 21, 2013 - 11:47 pm]: I got a dusty rash from Charity...
Videre Licet [December 21, 2013 - 11:47 pm]: rofl
ArmunnRigh [December 21, 2013 - 11:48 pm]: @Banazir Galbasi: no pics please :P
Videre Licet [December 21, 2013 - 11:48 pm]: hahahahaha
Banazir Galbasi [December 21, 2013 - 11:50 pm]: @Armunn, you got it. My wife checks the site from time to time.
ArmunnRigh [December 21, 2013 - 11:51 pm]: @Banazir Galbasi: and not your rash points? 8o
Videre Licet [December 21, 2013 - 11:51 pm]: still rofl
Videre Licet [December 21, 2013 - 11:52 pm]: no FILTERS here!
Atlanta Bill [December 21, 2013 - 11:53 pm]: https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Document:Collateral_Damage_911#The_War_Chest
Videre Licet [December 21, 2013 - 11:53 pm]: (I was never great with math... or my calendar)
Dustyash [December 21, 2013 - 11:54 pm]: somebody was or is having a bite to eat in the background lol
ArmunnRigh [December 21, 2013 - 11:54 pm]: @Atlanta Bill: all we can know and check is that the footage is faked, whatever happened on that day in that place is just speculation
ab [December 21, 2013 - 11:54 pm]: @Dustyash: me. I'm hungry after all that power outage
Dustyash [December 21, 2013 - 11:55 pm]: Right on that is okay
ArmunnRigh [December 21, 2013 - 11:55 pm]: @ab: having a Keb-ab
Videre Licet [December 21, 2013 - 11:55 pm]: back on the floor
Videre Licet [December 21, 2013 - 11:55 pm]: rolling
ArmunnRigh [December 21, 2013 - 11:56 pm]: @ab: we don't know that, ab, no data
Dustyash [December 21, 2013 - 11:56 pm]: there was not even fire blast explosion like we saw on tv it just came down that is that
ArmunnRigh [December 21, 2013 - 11:56 pm]: @ab: it is a possibility, but a speculation as we lack the data - all images are witnesses are falsified, therefore we can't know how it was done
Anders-Lindman [December 21, 2013 - 11:57 pm]: The WTC towers were largely hollow, that's the pile of debris at ground zero was so small.
Anders-Lindman [December 21, 2013 - 11:57 pm]: *that's why
Dustyash [December 21, 2013 - 11:57 pm]: Sounds like Fetzer
Dustyash [December 21, 2013 - 11:57 pm]: ??
ArmunnRigh [December 21, 2013 - 11:57 pm]: @Anders-Lindman: I never saw "ground zero", have you?
Dustyash [December 21, 2013 - 11:58 pm]: Scott Forbes??
Dustyash [December 21, 2013 - 11:58 pm]: Where are all the people come on
Dustyash [December 21, 2013 - 11:58 pm]: goofy
Anders-Lindman [December 21, 2013 - 11:58 pm]: I think the footage from ground zero was real
Rollo [December 21, 2013 - 11:58 pm]: wow..Dusty could be Phil Hendrie
Videre Licet [December 21, 2013 - 11:59 pm]: @ab: I'm with u on the nukes
ArmunnRigh [December 21, 2013 - 11:59 pm]: @Anders-Lindman: you're entitled to that
Videre Licet [December 21, 2013 - 11:59 pm]: @Rollo: heya rollo
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 12:00 am]: @Videre Licet: me too, but still, we have no data even to say it was a controlled demolition or anything else
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 12:00 am]: rollo nice to see you on here hope you call in??
Rollo [December 22, 2013 - 12:00 am]: :favorite: 's Videre because you laugh at my stupid Jokes
Anders-Lindman [December 22, 2013 - 12:00 am]: @ArmunnRigh: I could be wrong, but that's the simplest explanation for the small pile I think. I heard the theory of hollow towers on some other show
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 12:01 am]: nice little debate here
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 12:01 am]: rollo
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 12:01 am]: you need to call in just for support perhaps
Anders-Lindman [December 22, 2013 - 12:01 am]: Hollow WTC towers: http://truedemocracyparty.net/wp-content/uploads/WTC-empty-34c2d85c42aab2.jpg
Rollo [December 22, 2013 - 12:01 am]: Dusty I enjoyed your observations on the Pro-think show
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 12:02 am]: @Anders-Lindman: sure, I simply have no reason to trust any of the event's footage, quite the contrary
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 12:02 am]: thanks Rollo
Anders-Lindman [December 22, 2013 - 12:02 am]: Another image of hollow WTC towers: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3002/2674952033_2013551544_b.jpg
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 12:03 am]: The whole grieving death Psyop is really disturbing I think
Banazir Galbasi [December 22, 2013 - 12:03 am]: Perhaps the buildings just went strait down intact. Look at the holes in the Ground where they used to stand. Also check out this old Transformers episode at about 2:50 in for psychic driving: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JvlW7M1XB0
Anders-Lindman [December 22, 2013 - 12:03 am]: Short video clip: Hollow WTC Towers.wmv -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10fZgEl5PKQ
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 12:04 am]: Fetzer is not a Hollow Towers guy as he says lol
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 12:04 am]: @Banazir Galbasi: you also have a charity fungus, right?
httpsjoeyz.myopenid.com [December 22, 2013 - 12:04 am]: Wheat belly.com
Videre Licet [December 22, 2013 - 12:05 am]: there's a FUNGUS among us?!
jimbo [December 22, 2013 - 12:05 am]: The floors of the towers look like they were removed as well.
Anders-Lindman [December 22, 2013 - 12:05 am]: Wow, this one is a new one for me: WTC evidence of hollow towers -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnsQRfjd1RY
Videre Licet [December 22, 2013 - 12:05 am]: :favorite:'s rollo too
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 12:06 am]: they were hollow there was nobody in the towers when they fell I believe in my observation anyway for sure
jimbo [December 22, 2013 - 12:06 am]: I'm reading Grain Brain by David Perlmutter. All about hybridized wheat, barley, and rye. I having a gluten removed beer now. Great stuff.
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 12:06 am]: can hear the programm again
httpsjoeyz.myopenid.com [December 22, 2013 - 12:07 am]: I went to school 20 blocks from the towers, and to me the the 9/11 vids
look like something out of and old "King-Kong" flick... totally FAKE!!!!
Anders-Lindman [December 22, 2013 - 12:07 am]: some floors were real, but not many I think, and no real victims on 9/11
Banazir Galbasi [December 22, 2013 - 12:07 am]: Someone pass the chips.
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 12:08 am]: @httpsjoeyz.myopenid.com: right, which only tells us that we do not have any evidence for what REALLY happened
Videre Licet [December 22, 2013 - 12:08 am]: @ArmunnRigh: agreed
httpsjoeyz.myopenid.com [December 22, 2013 - 12:08 am]: ArmunnRigh: TRUE!!!
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 12:09 am]: I am okay on my end again
Videre Licet [December 22, 2013 - 12:09 am]: @Banazir Galbasi: I'll have some after you
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 12:09 am]: @Dustyash: The dusty has settled at last
jimbo [December 22, 2013 - 12:09 am]: Did anyone visit the towers before.Anyone go to the restaurant at the top? I did in 1986. Wow.
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 12:10 am]: is ash dusty on 9/11?? not sure what we saw??
Rollo [December 22, 2013 - 12:10 am]: Gotta go hit the Road........, Happy Holidays
Videre Licet [December 22, 2013 - 12:10 am]: @jimbo: never been
Anders-Lindman [December 22, 2013 - 12:10 am]: I think this is a real photo, and the top could tilt like that because there were no floors there: http://truthandshadows.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/wtc-1-cropped.jpg
httpsjoeyz.myopenid.com [December 22, 2013 - 12:10 am]: I was there!!!
Videre Licet [December 22, 2013 - 12:10 am]: @Rollo: Happy Trails!
columjaddica [December 22, 2013 - 12:10 am]: I visited them in July 2001!
Banazir Galbasi [December 22, 2013 - 12:11 am]: @Armunn, now that's a little personal!:D
httpsjoeyz.myopenid.com [December 22, 2013 - 12:11 am]: Last in 1984
jimbo [December 22, 2013 - 12:11 am]: Bye Rollo.
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 12:11 am]: okay Happy new Year and merry Christmas Rollo cheers
httpsjoeyz.myopenid.com [December 22, 2013 - 12:11 am]: I'am old
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 12:12 am]: I do not dispute the existence of the towers - only that we can't know, through image or witness examination, what happened for them to disappear
jimbo [December 22, 2013 - 12:12 am]: Columjaddica, you were there in July 2001? No way. holy crap. Close call.
Videre Licet [December 22, 2013 - 12:13 am]: @jimbo: No worries.. I think they cleared the bldg before...
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 12:13 am]: Why would they even have to kill JFK
columjaddica [December 22, 2013 - 12:14 am]: The whole story is a bit long for this chat but we went to the elevator that takes you to the observation deck and the elevator guy was extremely admimant that we had to leave "It's closed!". But there were tons of other touristy looking people milling around lobby by the elevator, some sitting down eating, some on laptops. etc. They didn't have to go, we did.
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 12:14 am]: it does not make sense really
Anders-Lindman [December 22, 2013 - 12:14 am]: I think ONLY the planes were faked in the WTC photos and videos :D
Videre Licet [December 22, 2013 - 12:14 am]: @columjaddica: we like long stories here
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 12:14 am]: great debate here
columjaddica [December 22, 2013 - 12:15 am]: I have a few observations about the whole trip to NYC but will save it for when I call into a show (still haven't set up Skype and dont have a good microphone, just a webcam.
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 12:15 am]: @columjaddica: Maybe your dehodorant went off and he didn't want to mention it? :D (joking)
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 12:15 am]: 9/11 was planned way way in advance
Videre Licet [December 22, 2013 - 12:15 am]: @Dustyash: the best
jimbo [December 22, 2013 - 12:15 am]: Columjaddica, that sound suspicious. I would be having some nightmares even now if it was me. And I'm a tough guy.
Banazir Galbasi [December 22, 2013 - 12:15 am]: How can there be multiple 'Elite' groups fighting for control and none of them expose each other?
ab [December 22, 2013 - 12:16 am]: @columjaddica: call in on our phone number
Videre Licet [December 22, 2013 - 12:16 am]: @ArmunnRigh: you always see the possibilities... I just love that!
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 12:16 am]: @Banazir Galbasi: if they are all receiving their moves from the same source, they can even think they're fighting each other, it doesn't matter
Atlanta Bill [December 22, 2013 - 12:17 am]: @Banazi, the élite groups do collude and sometimes they expose each other. But people aren't listening.
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 12:17 am]: I want to keep posting this link great pictures here:: http://s616.photobucket.com/user/cartamandua/library/911%20Coincidences%20and%20Synchronicity%20in%20ART?sort=3&page=1
Anders-Lindman [December 22, 2013 - 12:17 am]: @Banazir Galbasi: Spring Fritzmeier and Svali say that the Illuminati trauma-based mind control their own members. That would make them totally reliable.
Banazir Galbasi [December 22, 2013 - 12:17 am]: If you accept that the 'Elite' run everything, why would they kill one of their own?
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 12:17 am]: yes I agree
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 12:18 am]: so true AB
Atlanta Bill [December 22, 2013 - 12:18 am]: They DO kill their own. That's how they could kill Kennedy.
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 12:18 am]: and Banazir
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 12:18 am]: @Banazir Galbasi: What we must do is to avoid the trap of thinking that their fighting is real. It's as real as wrestling: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvTNyKIGXiI
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 12:19 am]: why would they kill Kennedy???
Anders-Lindman [December 22, 2013 - 12:19 am]: @Atlanta Bill: I heard a new theory that even the JFK assassination was faked! And it's possible I think.
smj [December 22, 2013 - 12:19 am]: what you don't trust dick gregory and geraldo
smj [December 22, 2013 - 12:21 am]: for a motive to exist to kill jfk to exist; one must assume that the office of the president holds real power.
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 12:21 am]: mk ultra is just a modern name for age old techniques
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 12:22 am]: @smj: agreed
Anders-Lindman [December 22, 2013 - 12:23 am]: @ArmunnRigh: Yeah, the "Bourne identity" stuff goes back to at least Ancient Egypt according to some.
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 12:24 am]: further back: ever since the first despot, he had to use mind control and brainwashing techniques to keep his army fighting for him and fearing him
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 12:25 am]: Pioneer of deception Hilter was a real master in control
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 12:25 am]: @Dustyash: Hitler was just another actor, albeit better in his role than many current ones
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 12:25 am]: Hitler the master of the propaganda machine
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 12:26 am]: a hollowcaust survivor
Anders-Lindman [December 22, 2013 - 12:26 am]: I have a theory that the Opening of the Mouth ceremony was really a ritual for trauma-based mind control (opening needed for the victim to be able to breathe when buried alive).
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 12:26 am]: and the americans really picked up on it
Videre Licet [December 22, 2013 - 12:26 am]: just an actor
smj [December 22, 2013 - 12:26 am]: atl bill you are talking about history as if you had witnessed it personally. you are even reciting dialogue between historical figures. step back and look at the big picture hustle.
aralsea [December 22, 2013 - 12:27 am]: Was Hitler the master of it? Somehow I doubt he was. maybe the united states was better at it?
Banazir Galbasi [December 22, 2013 - 12:27 am]: I think they sent JFK back in time to work on the 'moon' project.
Videre Licet [December 22, 2013 - 12:27 am]: with a fake hollywood death too
Videre Licet [December 22, 2013 - 12:27 am]: we're assuming that the history books are telling us the truth
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 12:28 am]: Maybe JFK is Paul Walkers Grandfather lol
Videre Licet [December 22, 2013 - 12:28 am]: @Banazir Galbasi: me too
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 12:28 am]: @Videre Licet: history is just another fiction genre
Anders-Lindman [December 22, 2013 - 12:28 am]: Ordinary explosives plus thermite brought down the WTC towers. The dust plumes were caused by cement bag rigged in the towers.
aralsea [December 22, 2013 - 12:29 am]: I take that back. hitler was very good at it. But also more honest I think than we give credit for. the best source of history is usually relative or trustworthy eye witnesses
Videre Licet [December 22, 2013 - 12:29 am]: Paul Walker looks like he's related to Anderson Cooper
Videre Licet [December 22, 2013 - 12:29 am]: ha
Anders-Lindman [December 22, 2013 - 12:29 am]: *bags
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 12:29 am]: @Anders-Lindman: what dust plumes?
aralsea [December 22, 2013 - 12:30 am]: I met a woman who saw dust on her car in Brooklyn on 9/11. I beleived her.
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 12:30 am]: yeah what we saw on tv when the towers came down is not how it happened
Anders-Lindman [December 22, 2013 - 12:30 am]: @ArmunnRigh: These dust plumes or what to call it: http://www.ussartf.org/images/wtc_collapse1.jpg
aralsea [December 22, 2013 - 12:30 am]: but she said it wasn't like seen on tv
Videre Licet [December 22, 2013 - 12:30 am]: i think he's a vanderbilt hahahaha
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 12:31 am]: @Anders-Lindman: that's an image. In a cartoon image book, what makes you pick Mickey Mouse as more real than Donald Duck?
Banazir Galbasi [December 22, 2013 - 12:31 am]: If 9/11 wasn't planned years in advance then what is with all the 9/11 psychic driving imagery?
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 12:31 am]: yes right
Anders-Lindman [December 22, 2013 - 12:32 am]: @ArmunnRigh: I think all the WTC photos were real! Except for the insertion of computer graphics planes.
Videre Licet [December 22, 2013 - 12:32 am]: @aralsea: didn't you say she said there wasn't enough dust on her car to correlate the hollywood production shown on tv?
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 12:32 am]: @Anders-Lindman: and again, you're entitled to that
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 12:32 am]: @Anders-Lindman: as you are entitled to believing Mickey Mouse is real
aralsea [December 22, 2013 - 12:33 am]: @Videre Licet: yes, she said she had dust on her car in brooklyn but it wasn't like the amount seen on tv
Videre Licet [December 22, 2013 - 12:33 am]: @Banazir Galbasi: agreed. I am waiting for the end of the world production... So sick of all those movies
Anders-Lindman [December 22, 2013 - 12:33 am]: @ArmunnRigh: That's how I would have planned it. Zero risk, minimum effort.
aralsea [December 22, 2013 - 12:34 am]: i think there was real dust since the buildings collapsed, but more was added in the media version for effect and affect
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 12:34 am]: @Anders-Lindman: Zero risk? Not so if you could extrapolate what happened through photos
Videre Licet [December 22, 2013 - 12:34 am]: @ArmunnRigh: he's not real?! ..Dang! Another psyop
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 12:34 am]: @aralsea: for sure real dust, as real smoke
aralsea [December 22, 2013 - 12:35 am]: and Tom in CT claims one death he knows
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 12:35 am]: @Videre Licet: From the ear biometrics, it has been proven that Mickey Mouse was JFK and he was really assassinated
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 12:35 am]: I met a guy at work and he said he had a friend about to go to school in downtown New York on 9/11 2001 and she said to him that her train stopped and it was not allowed to continue it was interesting what he was saying to me very odd strange stuff
Videre Licet [December 22, 2013 - 12:36 am]: @ArmunnRigh: you never cease to amaze!!
smj [December 22, 2013 - 12:36 am]: just going by the ears i would say mickey is closely relate to obama
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 12:36 am]: @smj: LOL
Anders-Lindman [December 22, 2013 - 12:36 am]: @ArmunnRigh: Faking a lot of photos and videos would have been very complicated. Plus they needed to make sure photos and videos taken by the public were consistent with the images presented in the media.
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 12:37 am]: Religion is a big big form of distraction and control
Videre Licet [December 22, 2013 - 12:37 am]: @Dustyash: I can believe that story. I would make sense.
aralsea [December 22, 2013 - 12:37 am]: @Dustyash: I think the early "preventions" to enter the "zone" were told its a terror threat, then the real event took over perception
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 12:37 am]: @Anders-Lindman: Not complicated at all.
Videre Licet [December 22, 2013 - 12:37 am]: @smj: They can't get anything past us!
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 12:38 am]: Obamickey
Banazir Galbasi [December 22, 2013 - 12:38 am]: @Videre: The End is Nigh!
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 12:38 am]: I am glad I am free from any fictional beliefs such as religion
Videre Licet [December 22, 2013 - 12:38 am]: @Dustyash: It would make sense.
columjaddica [December 22, 2013 - 12:38 am]: Made it through 11 episodes so far, really great stuff, pretty convincing
Videre Licet [December 22, 2013 - 12:39 am]: @ArmunnRigh: Love it!
aralsea [December 22, 2013 - 12:39 am]: Religion is not the same as God
Anders-Lindman [December 22, 2013 - 12:39 am]: @ArmunnRigh: Take the fireballs in the towers for example. That would have been tricky to simulate from several angles. To simulate the planes on the other hand a piece of cake, even with the digital editing tools available in 2001.
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 12:39 am]: I have my Dad to thank for that one
Videre Licet [December 22, 2013 - 12:39 am]: @columjaddica: ep 11?
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 12:39 am]: @ab: I disagree with that, but we'll talk about it someday
columjaddica [December 22, 2013 - 12:39 am]: Mystery Babylon I mean. He even calls out roughly 2011 or later as the start of the new era
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 12:39 am]: @Anders-Lindman: the firebalss do not match
Banazir Galbasi [December 22, 2013 - 12:40 am]: @Aral Sea, I thought Tom said he knows of 4 or 5 who died.
httpsjoeyz.myopenid.com [December 22, 2013 - 12:40 am]: Caesar's Caesar's Messiah was a fun read ( back in 2006), but, in reality,
Jesus is just another recycled SUN-GO.D.
Videre Licet [December 22, 2013 - 12:40 am]: @columjaddica: predictive programming.. will have to chk it out
Anders-Lindman [December 22, 2013 - 12:40 am]: The fireballs in the WTC towers were caused by kerosene and explosives rigged inside the buildings.
aralsea [December 22, 2013 - 12:40 am]: @Banazir Galbasi: maybe yes I heard one on Johns show
columjaddica [December 22, 2013 - 12:40 am]: And I feel a difference. The Mystery Religion stuff does explain things better than the Jews run everything theory
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 12:40 am]: @Anders-Lindman: ok
Banazir Galbasi [December 22, 2013 - 12:41 am]: @Armunn, yes and Mickey is also Minnie's sister and aren't really a couple.
ab [December 22, 2013 - 12:41 am]: @Anders-Lindman: the fireballs are cgi. you saw nothing of what happened
Anders-Lindman [December 22, 2013 - 12:41 am]: @ArmunnRigh: Fireballs not matching?! That's a new one for me. Do you have any link?
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 12:41 am]: @columjaddica: I think it falls on the same category
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 12:41 am]: It is a real shame that all this religion has got out of hand but it has been put there by design the us and them kindda thing again to fight like chickens in a pen go SLAVES go
Videre Licet [December 22, 2013 - 12:42 am]: @ArmunnRigh: non-matching fireballs...
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 12:42 am]: @Banazir Galbasi: Michelle Obaminnie
jimbo [December 22, 2013 - 12:42 am]: Part of Adolph Hitler's image was his bad haircut. Can you image him with a good haircut and no stache? No bad guy persona.
Anders-Lindman [December 22, 2013 - 12:42 am]: @ab: ArmunnRigh mentioned differences in the fireballs. That would indicate fakery I agree. I need to check that out though to make sure.
Videre Licet [December 22, 2013 - 12:42 am]: @ArmunnRigh: Have you taken your meds today?
ab [December 22, 2013 - 12:43 am]: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLvLmhXCV7E&list=PLA20532ACA47E24CE
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 12:43 am]: @Videre Licet: they ran out! :S
aralsea [December 22, 2013 - 12:44 am]: @jimbo: But I dont think he tried to look like a bad guy. I think Hitler was one of the most honest politicians ever.
smj [December 22, 2013 - 12:45 am]: @aral who's your most honest actor ever?
Videre Licet [December 22, 2013 - 12:46 am]: @smj: honest actor?
smj [December 22, 2013 - 12:46 am]: @videre honest politician?
aralsea [December 22, 2013 - 12:46 am]: @smj: you mean political? Hitler and Nixon
Videre Licet [December 22, 2013 - 12:46 am]: an oxyMORON
aralsea [December 22, 2013 - 12:47 am]: Just kidding about Nixon
smj [December 22, 2013 - 12:47 am]: no i mean there is no difference between hitler and humphrey bogart. the sheep are attracted to the persona.
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 12:47 am]: I am not a Crook Nixon
Anders-Lindman [December 22, 2013 - 12:48 am]: Redundant use of adjective: dishonest politician :D
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 12:48 am]: read my lips no new taxes George Bush Sr.
Banazir Galbasi [December 22, 2013 - 12:48 am]: @Anders, the video from the different angle DON'T line up exactly.
aralsea [December 22, 2013 - 12:48 am]: I see what you mean, Nixon, Bogart and McCartney all actors
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 12:49 am]: You are either with us or you are with the terrorists George Bush Jr.
Anders-Lindman [December 22, 2013 - 12:49 am]: @Banazir Galbasi: I haven't looked into the different angles. I will have to check that out.
aralsea [December 22, 2013 - 12:49 am]: BTW, I still believe in one Paul McCartney...its the same guy get over the death hoax
smj [December 22, 2013 - 12:50 am]: nixon had his handlers. im reminded of the line in the running man. Hello, this is Killian. Get me the Justice Department, entertainment division. No, hold that, operator. Get me the president's agent.
jimbo [December 22, 2013 - 12:50 am]: Let me make one thing perfectly clear... I am not a crook.
Videre Licet [December 22, 2013 - 12:50 am]: ALPHA WAVES
Videre Licet [December 22, 2013 - 12:51 am]: ALPHA
aralsea [December 22, 2013 - 12:51 am]: Every leader has handlers. You cannot lead a nation alone. Even Rob Ford needs his brother to make speeches
Videre Licet [December 22, 2013 - 12:51 am]: @ab:
Videre Licet [December 22, 2013 - 12:51 am]: @ab: meee toooo
Videre Licet [December 22, 2013 - 12:51 am]: Hz
Videre Licet [December 22, 2013 - 12:51 am]: Hertz
Videre Licet [December 22, 2013 - 12:52 am]: IT MAKES PEOPLE IRRITATED
Atlanta Bill [December 22, 2013 - 12:52 am]: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNcUEraG5sA The trailer for MAX, a movie about Hitler's post war career.
Videre Licet [December 22, 2013 - 12:52 am]: Proven
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 12:52 am]: They want us to think that they are working on getting the new world order in place but in actual fact we are in the new world order it is already happening
columjaddica [December 22, 2013 - 12:52 am]: Obama is the most honest politician. He promised hope and change and transparency. Govt motives are more transparent than ever.
Videre Licet [December 22, 2013 - 12:52 am]: We are easily manipulated
aralsea [December 22, 2013 - 12:53 am]: I obtained a real book copy of David Irvings Hitlers War 1990 version. Gonna read it next year
Videre Licet [December 22, 2013 - 12:53 am]: It can change your tv channel but you feel like it doesn't affect you
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 12:53 am]: Fetzer is a joke I am sorry but
Anders-Lindman [December 22, 2013 - 12:54 am]: “If you like your health care plan, you can keep it [if you pay through your nose].” -- Barack Obama
Videre Licet [December 22, 2013 - 12:54 am]: hypnosis is to you as well?
Videre Licet [December 22, 2013 - 12:54 am]: advertising is alot more powerful than you think
Banazir Galbasi [December 22, 2013 - 12:55 am]: Dusty
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 12:55 am]: that was me
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 12:55 am]: nukes are like penises: they come in all sizes
Videre Licet [December 22, 2013 - 12:55 am]: i slept thru the 2nd hour
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 12:55 am]: Jeremy
Videre Licet [December 22, 2013 - 12:55 am]: got my rest
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 12:56 am]: That was me that called in there
Videre Licet [December 22, 2013 - 12:56 am]: @ArmunnRigh: lol
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 12:56 am]: hilarious
JeremyG [December 22, 2013 - 12:56 am]: are you talking about fetzer?
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 12:56 am]: Fetzer really is a big I better not say
JeremyG [December 22, 2013 - 12:56 am]: Dusty
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 12:57 am]: yes I am
httpsjoeyz.myopenid.com [December 22, 2013 - 12:57 am]: 8+1 = 9
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 12:57 am]: MicroNuke = when the explosion doesn't burn your wife
JeremyG [December 22, 2013 - 12:57 am]: Nice
Atlanta Bill [December 22, 2013 - 12:57 am]: I hung up, else I'd been lingering forever. I do that.
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 12:57 am]: That was me that you heard on the show
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 12:57 am]: @Atlanta Bill: Thanks for your call Bill
Atlanta Bill [December 22, 2013 - 12:57 am]: @Ab, I hung up. Else I'd have been lingering into the night. I do that.
JeremyG [December 22, 2013 - 12:58 am]: That gave him away as a gatekeeper to me
Banazir Galbasi [December 22, 2013 - 12:58 am]: Cheers fellow slaves.
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 12:58 am]: My slave job can take a break
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 12:58 am]: too
Atlanta Bill [December 22, 2013 - 12:58 am]: Thanks for your thanks, Armunn.
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 12:58 am]: yeah same here
Anders-Lindman [December 22, 2013 - 12:58 am]: The International Space Station is unmanned probably, ab you could talk about that the next time
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 12:58 am]: bye fellow slaves as well
httpsjoeyz.myopenid.com [December 22, 2013 - 12:59 am]: Joyful Solstice to all, may your SUN-GOD shine on you.
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 12:59 am]: I like the crime of the century and I don't mean 9/11 lol
Atlanta Bill [December 22, 2013 - 12:59 am]: Bye, fellow serfs. Serf is the European name for 'slave'.
ab [December 22, 2013 - 12:59 am]: @Anders-Lindman: it only exists in a pool of water in Houston, and also in a studio
Videre Licet [December 22, 2013 - 12:59 am]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zw_7CJ5ozaM
ab [December 22, 2013 - 12:59 am]: Have a happy longest day of darkness tomorrow
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 1:00 am]: @Anders-Lindman: the space station is unmanned but not undogged: http://fakeologist.com/forums/topic/not-another-space-anecdote/page/2/#post-6256
Videre Licet [December 22, 2013 - 1:00 am]: How Television Affects Your Brain Chemistry (except ab's)
Atlanta Bill [December 22, 2013 - 1:00 am]: Yeh, Videre. I gave up my TV a few years ago.
Anders-Lindman [December 22, 2013 - 1:00 am]: @ab: I think the actual space station is real because it can be seen by amateur astronomers etc, but I think it's unmanned, and yes scenes faked in a studio
Videre Licet [December 22, 2013 - 1:00 am]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zw_7CJ5ozaM
Videre Licet [December 22, 2013 - 1:00 am]: me too
jimbo [December 22, 2013 - 1:00 am]: Thanks Ab.
ab [December 22, 2013 - 1:01 am]: @Anders-Lindman: We'll get you around to understanding the fakery. Give us time.
ab [December 22, 2013 - 1:01 am]: Thanks callers and chatters.
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 1:01 am]: did you get my email ab?
Videre Licet [December 22, 2013 - 1:01 am]: Thanks ab!!
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 1:01 am]: an my skype chat?
ab [December 22, 2013 - 1:01 am]: The show will be posted later Sunday. I need time to patch it together
ab [December 22, 2013 - 1:02 am]: What email Armunn?
Anders-Lindman [December 22, 2013 - 1:02 am]: thanks for a great show
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 1:02 am]: I sent you one today or yesterday
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 1:02 am]: and a skype chat some days ago
ab [December 22, 2013 - 1:03 am]: about Mystery Babylon?
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 1:03 am]: that was the skype
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 1:03 am]: the email was suggestion
Banazir Galbasi [December 22, 2013 - 1:04 am]: Anyone here want to try out an after party talk on talkshoe/Skype?
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 1:05 am]: @Banazir Galbasi: tempting, but too sleepy here, man
ab [December 22, 2013 - 1:09 am]: @Banazir Galbasi: start a show! the afterparty show...
ab [December 22, 2013 - 1:09 am]: post the link here I'm fine with that
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 1:47 am]: Because nobody cares, or because nobody's there? This site, i know from experience, is a gatekeeper: http://cotocrew.wordpress.com/2013/12/21/911-families-win-right-to-sue-saudis-and-no-one-seems-to-care/
Videre Licet [December 22, 2013 - 2:08 am]: @Banazir Galbasi: did you start your afterparty>
Banazir Galbasi [December 22, 2013 - 2:13 am]: http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/talkCast.jsp?masterId=131445&cmd=tc
Banazir Galbasi [December 22, 2013 - 2:15 am]: Hi sorry haven't checked here for a while.
Banazir Galbasi [December 22, 2013 - 2:16 am]: or search fOr DUst Ban on talkshoe
Banazir Galbasi [December 22, 2013 - 2:22 am]: Skype me at banazir2980 or Banazir Galbasi, I forget which is correct.
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 2:23 am]: we are on talk shoe right now everyone welcome
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 8:27 am]: @wanda: Scroll the chat all the way up to December 18, as you have something there that's been awaiting your explanation since.
smj [December 22, 2013 - 9:19 am]: some great hand gestures from this fella. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGatWwhdf_4
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 11:55 am]: @smj: That immediately reminded me of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1eHkbmUJBQ
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 12:40 pm]: another good video is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnFUDVpFwFQ
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 12:41 pm]: these are all really good: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMDu3JdQ8Ow
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 12:51 pm]: another great vudeo
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 12:52 pm]: another great video # 3:: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssf7P-Sgcrk
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 12:56 pm]: Great videos to help if you are feeling that maybe more to knowledge
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 12:58 pm]: #4 and that should be it for now http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wU0PYcCsL6o
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 1:09 pm]: I think we are ready for this reality now, my friends in fakery....I think this (and we) are the real McCoy.
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 1:12 pm]: http://kateofgaia.wordpress.com/ and then listen at your leisure http://kateofgaia.wordpress.com/kate-on-the-radio/ ....we really are all that Dusty - no more pretending! :) . I think we just might be astoundingly beautiful afterall.
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 1:13 pm]: hope you enjoyed those videos Peter glad to see on here
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 1:13 pm]: Alan Watts helps me calm down
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 1:14 pm]: you on here sorry cheers
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 1:15 pm]: how calm are you now Dusty?
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 1:16 pm]: well you know life is so fast and crazy we need some time to think in peace I suppose
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 1:18 pm]: Jelly Jar of life has been overflowing for so long now longer than I have been around so it is nice to step back and see a backdrop of philosophical hope
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 1:18 pm]: fake life is so slow and asinine. I think wonders await us. perhaps that was the whole point?
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 1:19 pm]: relating or devoted to the study of the fundamental nature of knowledge, reality, and existence
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 1:19 pm]: look inside for the answers. it is there they always lay. always inside.
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 1:20 pm]: did you like the Alan Watts videos?
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 1:21 pm]: yes. he sounds like Richard burton.
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 1:22 pm]: so Sad but Alan Watts died in his sleep of all things weird hey
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 1:24 pm]: A peaceful man dies in a peaceful way
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 1:25 pm]: i think we learn more from negative and jarring experiences.
we own loads to those who have hurt us deeply. what to be and do and
what not to be and do-that is the real question.
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 1:26 pm]: a peaceful man never dies.
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 1:27 pm]: right that is true
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 1:29 pm]: I like how Alan Watts talks about nothing,,, nothing has to be something I mean there can not be something without nothing first there for nothing is something it is so true
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 1:31 pm]: hard to understand in a way but it always makes me wonder about where we come from like what you were saying on the last show I do research it a little and it is a nice thought about nothing I guess
Carole Thomas [December 22, 2013 - 1:33 pm]: can't wait for Ab to post the show - it's a pain being in different time zones:-)
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 1:34 pm]: check the links I posted above Dusty. it will be worth it.
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 1:38 pm]: yes I will thanks peter
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 1:40 pm]: they know who we are. we just don't quite yet! that is the final layer Dusty, imo. we have come this far. onwards and upwards. haven't heard last nights show yet either. tim is fast becoming Canada's no. 1 export. good on you timmy boy.
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 1:42 pm]: yes sir I agree Ab is the #1 choice on this issue for sure he is the man everybody that comes here seems to relate to the best yes good on you Ab Irato
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 1:43 pm]: if there is one lesson you take from life - never nudge your granny while she's shaving.
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 1:44 pm]: :D
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 1:44 pm]: ouch lol
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 1:51 pm]: @wanda: Scroll the chat all the way up to December 18, as you have something there that's been awaiting your explanation since.
..................... Armunn... i am glad i caught that and here is my response: Don't go getting all up in my face and accuse me of being jewy when all you are doing is reporting... being a double agent. I said my piece here and then i went over to Mami's and vented
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 1:55 pm]: We need to keep opinions to ourselves please,,,, including myself!! to preserve the integrity of this site Thank You
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 1:55 pm]: bad form to use that type of language though wanda. It is unbecoming.
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 1:56 pm]: Nothing more to it there... WHAT???? We need to keep our opinions to ourselves? Oh, that'll work... that'll stop the evil.
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 1:57 pm]: it just may get out of hand that is all that is all I am saying it is all good peace
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 1:58 pm]: Oh is it unbecoming Tom? What i find more offending than adult language among adults is pornography and filth in everyday media.
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 1:59 pm]: yeah well true very true
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 2:03 pm]: not tom, it's peter. I was talking about the words you choose to describe some of the people here. and of course what you mention is most offending to decency. you believe the jews are at the pinnacle. others (including myself) don't, and with some very good reasons.
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 2:04 pm]: yeah right again we need to preserve the integrity of this site nothing is ever completely conclusive lets keep it in perspective
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 2:05 pm]: I am not seeing much integrity at the moment.
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 2:06 pm]: I am seeing gatekeeping and a certain smug technique of moral superiority. Political correctness.
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 2:07 pm]: can you be more specific on how this all started I am a little lost please forgive me
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 2:07 pm]: is it about the Jews?
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 2:08 pm]: Follow the comment stream up to Dec. 18 where Armunn takes me to task and accuses me of acting jewy.
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 2:09 pm]: When what he was doing was completely jewy. He had ample opportunity to address me on MAMI's.
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 2:11 pm]: why are the jews so prominent in the 9/11 official conspiracy narrative? this is not how master criminals/manipulators and machiavellian schemers operate, where evasion from suspicion or detection is always a priority. and I was just commenting on your choice of words to describe posters here wanda. nothing else.
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 2:11 pm]: right okay well I better let you guys work that out I think Armunn is a reasonable man maybe a misunderstanding perhaps
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 2:12 pm]: I was blowing off steam... we all do it.
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 2:14 pm]: And it is not as if i didn't state my piece, in more eloquent words... right here on this site.
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 2:14 pm]: sure, but you deal in words. you know they all count.
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 2:14 pm]: That's crap.
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 2:14 pm]: how so?
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 2:15 pm]: I deal in truth... it isn't always pretty... and definitely not P.C.
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 2:16 pm]: and your truth you express through words.
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 2:18 pm]: Words Mr. Wordsmith. Yes with words... unvarnished at times, but only words.
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 2:19 pm]: Do you believe the jews are responsible for everything?
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 2:19 pm]: anyway, have you an answer to my above question re. jews/9/11? I am not typing with any animosity or hostility.
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 2:20 pm]: lets keep this real regardless of what happened between you and Armunn okay
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 2:22 pm]: yea. this is the real deal... no, wait....
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 2:24 pm]: lol
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 2:32 pm]: I think wally dove (who ab featured on ep. 71) and Jordan Maxwell could well be one and the same character. add to that mix one Michael Aquino (who Maxwell not only sounds but looks like)...no answer to my question, wanda?
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 2:37 pm]: @wanda: Noticing, by chance (as sometimes my girlfriend likes to check Mami's chat), such a comment from you, wanda, I couldn't let it pass. I didn't take any sides on the discussion you were having with Tom and that's not the point. The point is going behind someone's back and venting there. Honesty required you to call Tom whatever you needed to call him to him, preferably even, in private.
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 2:37 pm]: Yes... the Jew's holey book is the Talmud. They consider us cattle. It is okay to do whatever they want to us... but not to a jew. They can rape our children... enslave us... they are entitled to our shit... ENTITLED. They can murder us... cheat us, lie to us... in fact those are admirable traits among the jews... to not do it is to be a bad jew... word of their Lord Yahweh.
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 2:37 pm]: Their prayer, the Kol Nidre absolves them of any ills they visit on us a year in advance. EVERY Jewish holiday revolves around a slaughter of goyem. What sort of moral values are those for a goddam religion?
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 2:38 pm]: @wanda: If someone went behind your back and slandered you down, I would call that person out if I caught it. Moreover, what you stated, although originally directed at Tom, included a vague reference to people from this site.
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 2:38 pm]: @wanda: Also, as you know, something slightly similar as happened before and I, at the time, emailed you privately and asked for explanations. Regardless of the jews subject, of which you know my opinion about their involvement, this kind of behavior will only sink your credibility and it is, whether it is visible to you or not, a behavior stereotypical of the jews you criticize.
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 2:38 pm]: I am not apologizing for it either...
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 2:38 pm]: @wanda: I do not see how I could have behaved as a double agent, as what I've done was, as you well said, to report a fault, giving you (the accuser) and Tom and other people from this site (the accused) a chance to clarify things. Here you are now, being able to speak in your defence, a chance you did not give Tom or anyone here by taking it to a different chat.
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 2:38 pm]: @wanda: What people say in their privacy belongs to them alone. What people say in public is not private. Mami's chat is public.
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 2:38 pm]: What private thing are you talking about?
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 2:40 pm]: I said it here and i said it there. Not taking about who is doing it is not getting it done.
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 2:40 pm]: oh boy
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 2:40 pm]: My last statement referred to nothing specific: if you went to speak to someone else about Tom in those terms, it would be between you too. In a public space it is public
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 2:41 pm]: So says Armunn... so what?
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 2:41 pm]: *two
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 2:41 pm]: excuse me?
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 2:43 pm]: You are expressing your opinion and you are welcome to it. I am allowed to look at it as you behaving in a morally superior manner which comes off to me as arrogant and dismissive.
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 2:44 pm]: wanda, you are posting with unnecessary animosity. why not apologise and be done? have you read ab's recent link regarding the vows the Jesuits take? what role do they play in things?
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 2:44 pm]: but... what you did was morally inferior, by your own standards
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 2:45 pm]: Bullshit.
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 2:45 pm]: And i'm not apologizing.
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 2:45 pm]: OK
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 2:46 pm]: a zing in the tail.
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 2:46 pm]: I am being murdered... nearly everyone i know is being murdered and/or bankrupted and being put out on the street... in a cashless society manner. The jews are doing it... not discussing it is gatekeeping.
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 2:47 pm]: And that gives you the right to go behind Tom's back like a jew would?
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 2:48 pm]: Armunn... and you are acting more jewy than most. I address Tom right here on Mamis... and you are overlooking that... deliberately. YOU are obfuscating... you are exaggerating and stirring shit.
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 2:48 pm]: just for clarity, I am not tom, but pshea or peter.
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 2:49 pm]: I did make the mistake on the language thing Phil... but in this case we are talking about Tom.
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 2:49 pm]: poor tom's a cold.
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 2:50 pm]: Right here on Abs... mistake ther.
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 2:50 pm]: there.
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 2:50 pm]: But you didn't say to Tom what you said at Mami's, where Tom wasn't present
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 2:50 pm]: You can't dictate what i talk about and where Armunn.
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 2:51 pm]: oh certainly not! But you are responsible for what you say
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 2:51 pm]: I was more polite here... just more diplomatic. And i am responsible for what i say... that is why no apology. I do not apologize for what i said... i meant it.
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 2:51 pm]: Wanda I have to Agree with Peter and I happen to like Armunn and his points he is open to many faucets of ideas but lets face it please keep the integrity of this site and say sorry and be done nothing will make it better
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 2:51 pm]: I never asked for an apology
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 2:52 pm]: I put it in a public sphere and, frankly, i wasn't worried if it would get back here or not. Make something of that... oh year, you're trying to.
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 2:53 pm]: Someone else here suggested i apologize... as if i have something to apologize for. Disrupting the soma like sleep going on around here.
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 2:54 pm]: I agree that Jews have a lot to do with the mess we are in but there are a lot of people at play here come on
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 2:56 pm]: @Dustyash: What I'm debating has nothing to do with the jew subject. It has to do with honesty.
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 2:56 pm]: There are Dusty. I would never even suggest that anyone not be held accountable for evil works. But, i emphasize that the source of the evil is the jews... and that predates the bible even... it is in their Talmud. And that is the book the jews live by.
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 2:56 pm]: Yeah I hear you I agree yes
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 2:56 pm]: Stick a sock in Armunn.
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 2:57 pm]: I agree with you too Armunn
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 2:57 pm]: Wanda take it easy
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 2:57 pm]: Okay... you're right Dusty. That was not called for. I just don't dig on the moral superiority.
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 2:58 pm]: Anger will not accomplish anything
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 2:58 pm]: I have nothing to apologize for. Anger will save your life in the wild... anger is what the social engineering has endeavored to separate us from.
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 2:58 pm]: @wanda: I agree
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 2:59 pm]: it is almost what they want us to do is fight it is sad we should not lose site of that
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 2:59 pm]: anger is useful
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 2:59 pm]: Well... it is in fighting, not infighting, but in arguing out a point that we come to resolutions.
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 2:59 pm]: that is good okay
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 3:00 pm]: and where's the moral superiority of going behind someone's back and call him a fucking idiot and retard?
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 3:00 pm]: that is not good
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 3:01 pm]: In truth... i was calling everyone here who was rationalizing we should not discuss the jew as a retard, idiot and gatekeeper.
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 3:01 pm]: Not just Tom.
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 3:01 pm]: ah! But why not do it here, as just now?
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 3:02 pm]: I would see nothing wrong with you doing that HERE
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 3:02 pm]: would you?
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 3:02 pm]: it is called two faced.
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 3:02 pm]: because here, the accused can respond
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 3:02 pm]: Because that is our trouble... and we have so little access to get our word out due to the nasty little ownership of the medias by the jews... which is decidedly murderous.
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 3:02 pm]: (if they wish)
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 3:02 pm]: and it is not becoming.
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 3:02 pm]: right yes
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 3:03 pm]: I said it here Armunn... do i need to go and pull those words that you seem to want to say i didn't say?
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 3:03 pm]: you said it now
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 3:03 pm]: go ahead and pull the words of back then, if I missed them
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 3:03 pm]: in this chat, of course
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 3:05 pm]: Okay... i didn't use the vitriolic words but i did endeavor to argue that not calling out the jews is not the correct way to do it... when i see people ignoring and talking around what i'm posting... i see gatekeeping and not much further room for discussion. Ranting to gatekeepers is a time waster.
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 3:06 pm]: In fact... just scoot on up to Dec. 18 and people can read all about it themselves...
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 3:06 pm]: Who is the gatekeeper
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 3:06 pm]: there - you have stated your point, whoever wants to respond can do so, but you can clearly understand that if someone went behind your back and did something similar, you'd feel somewhat aggravated
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 3:06 pm]: I have but who is the gatekeeper?
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 3:07 pm]: I call out the jews but there are others. and who are the jews anyway?
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 3:07 pm]: Look at the comment stream Dusty... figure it out. That sounds condescending... but that is not my intention. It sort of speaks for itself...
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 3:08 pm]: up there.
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 3:08 pm]: In fact, on Mami's, they call one such person Jan "it's not the jews" Eric.
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 3:09 pm]: official 9/11conspiracy wants desperately for us to call out the jews. did the jews design this self incrimination?
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 3:10 pm]: And we should call out the jews... they are the ones doing it.
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 3:10 pm]: I think a lot of people were involved in it for sure
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 3:11 pm]: All the evil... 4,000 years -give or take- stems from the Jewish parasitism of the rest of humanity and all of earth's resources.
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 3:14 pm]: any comments on jan erik's research re. the patrician families and their historical role in world affairs? I think the 'jews' are complete strawmen.
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 3:14 pm]: That is not to say there aren't complicit goyem... there are. But the genesis of the evil is the jew. You need only see who is at the top of all the think tanks, freemasonry, corporations, governmental and military and religious institutes... all the charities and they are wholly infiltrated throughout all the medical fields, academia, medias... name it... they own and control it all.
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 3:15 pm]: Strawmen my ass.
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 3:15 pm]: @wanda: agreed, there are no victims in that game
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 3:16 pm]: Thank you Armunn.
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 3:16 pm]: who are the 'jews' then wanda?
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 3:16 pm]: Click away Peter: http://thezog.wordpress.com/
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 3:17 pm]: And it is all of them. The Talmudists... all of them right on down to Sam the grocer.
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 3:18 pm]: why do we have all the known gatekeepers (fetzer et al) down on the jews now? I only want truth as well wanda and condemn all who would enslave and abuse their fellow man.
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 3:20 pm]: Infiltrators. Jews like to control all sides of the wars they start for profit. How many times has Fetzer been caught lying? Denying 9-11 in 2013? Implausible.
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 3:20 pm]: Wanda what did you think of the Mike Delanay and John Friend debate about all this
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 3:21 pm]: John behaved well. Delaney and Scott's behavior was less than... well, human. It was like watching a white chimp out.
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 3:21 pm]: But they are all Jew this jew that tho?
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 3:22 pm]: and I would seriously like your take on my 9/11/jews question. look to how many are now exposing the holocaust hoax. why and how?
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 3:22 pm]: John was trying to rationalize
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 3:23 pm]: Subsequently... Delaney and all the others tried to make John out to be a bad guy... tried to force him into compliance. John stated simply that he can see what he's dealing with and he's having nothing more to do with it... and that is respectable. Further, he has had nothing more to do with them... and that is honorable.
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 3:23 pm]: They were even accusing Simon Shack as a jew it was getting a little absurd really
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 3:24 pm]: Delaney and scott are sold out. clear as day. so why? if they push the jews so hard, then we have more questions and less answers. and that is the only show I ever heard them on.
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 3:24 pm]: So true Peter very good
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 3:25 pm]: I think they are paid to push the jews do everything spiel. do the jews pay them?
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 3:25 pm]: Well, excuse me, but the whole White Supremacy... Christian Identity thing is, on it's face, a farce. It is divisive. What more do we need to know?
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 3:25 pm]: so who pays them?
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 3:27 pm]: There are only about a million, literally, organizations, think tanks, false front operations out there that could be paying them. In the end... it is all of them because they are focused and cohesive... unlike us... they keep us baffled with this b.s.
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 3:28 pm]: So why do we do it? They are identified... move on.
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 3:29 pm]: Like John Friend... he spotted it, called it for what it was and he is past it.
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 3:29 pm]: And that is not to say John Friend isn't just more clever than others... and he is squeaky clean. That is an unknown.
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 3:31 pm]: And... i'd also like to point out that all these things in operation to undo us has been paid for by money stolen from us.
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 3:36 pm]: but if the jews run the show, why are jews paying for the jews to be outed/exposed? do you still represent your legal name wanda? have you come across the links I posted when I joined the chat first 2night?
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 3:38 pm]: Ask the jews... better yet, find your own answers. That it is the jews... historically it has always been the jews. When you run a scam for thousands of years, you get quite good at controlling all the sides, you got more than a few tricks up your sleeves.
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 3:38 pm]: I have no idea what you mean by do i still represent my legal name.
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 3:41 pm]: http://kateofgaia.wordpress.com/ and then listen at your leisure http://kateofgaia.wordpress.com/kate-on-the-radio/ the trick exposed and the greater game uncovered.
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 3:43 pm]: by representing your legally given name you represent in contract a dead entity and fictional strawman.
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 3:44 pm]: Oh... alright, i know what you're talking about Pete. All that does by playing the game as they present it is legitimizing their horsesh*t. Prior to their absolute control our word was our bond. We need to destroy their involuntary contract based system for an honest one.
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 3:45 pm]: And nothing less. No hidden meanings of words... no got-chas.
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 3:45 pm]: No games.
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 3:47 pm]: When has writing to or otherwise petitioning the psychopaths ever worked. Talk to the wall, you get more results... the paint will eventually chip.
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 3:49 pm]: And the only way we are going to do that is to drop the imposed mind control meme of not outing the jews... it is not racist to say who is doing it if they are doing it, and they are.
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 3:51 pm]: @wanda: it is never anti anything to expose people for what they do, regardless of their race, ideology or religion, agreed
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 3:52 pm]: @wanda: The fear to offend is a chain
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 3:52 pm]: A chain? Explain please.
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 3:52 pm]: a chain that arrests people
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 3:53 pm]: Ah... it is a cultural thing. Yes, agreed. It is a cage.
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 3:55 pm]: If we can have an open and honest dialogue about any group... especially one as out in the open and active, so easily provable as the jew... then we can't have honesty... period.
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 3:56 pm]: typo... first can should have been a can't.
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 3:57 pm]: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wtdFf5QLFw my longtime most favourite song...'all of these signs saying sorry but we're closed. all the way, down the telegraph road.'
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 4:00 pm]: my point exactly: open and honest. Also, discussion is presentation of arguments. In it it is expected that the person/people on the other side of the discussion may not agree with what we present. My focus, speaking personally, is on checking myself for what of me might become my enslavers. Most willing victims, on all levels, from the bottom up, only call out until they get a slice of the pie.
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 4:00 pm]: Or when they already get a piece, when another group is getting a bigger slice.
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 4:00 pm]: most people's motivations are a desire to be included and not to leave the cages
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 4:02 pm]: that's why it's hard to speak to anyone about anything that might shake a "good deal" they might be having
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 4:02 pm]: why would they want to leave their cages, what with all their chain-stores.....?
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 4:02 pm]: indeed. The web of lies is a comfort blanket
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 4:02 pm]: but we should not take comfort as a good sign in a world of insanity - at least that's my take
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 4:03 pm]: And i agree with that. There is only one pie... you can get an infinite amount of slices out of it. The slices get jammed with greasy fingers and more slices need to be made for even more fingers to get stuck into... eventually you looking at what we're looking at now. So many criminals so few dupes left to siphon off.
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 4:03 pm]: the only pie is spiritual.
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 4:04 pm]: i dunno, there's a few dupes round my way still
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 4:04 pm]: Maybe they need to look up and see the chem trails... smell and taste the water... etc.
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 4:04 pm]: @PeterShea: you can't eat spiritual food
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 4:04 pm]: pie in the sky?
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 4:04 pm]: yes - Peter
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 4:04 pm]: Amen.
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 4:05 pm]: what am I armunn?
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 4:05 pm]: you're asking me?
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 4:05 pm]: Are you religious Peter?
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 4:05 pm]: no wanda.
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 4:06 pm]: jesus was a mushroom!
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 4:06 pm]: Oh.
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 4:06 pm]: Yes he was... thank you.
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 4:06 pm]: welcome.
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 4:09 pm]: Hey... Armunn... after almost dying twice in the last 3 months, i am on the fifth day in a row of feeling good... feeling healthier. That hasn't happened two days in a row, so i can finally be hopeful.
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 4:10 pm]: calling religion bullshit is soo 20th century...calling science bullshit starts here.
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 4:11 pm]: science isn't bullshit, just controlled.
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 4:11 pm]: Agreed Tom... in the final analysis, it is all religion... right on down to government. One big fat myth.
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 4:11 pm]: pseudo science.
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 4:12 pm]: yes, badly worded, Peter I'll take that
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 4:12 pm]: intellectualism... another ism... sci-fi is more like it.
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 4:13 pm]: it's like you say spirituality isn't bullshit. mainstream religion is. Science isn't bullshit, mainstream science as presented, is.
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 4:13 pm]: is that tom from connecticut?
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 4:15 pm]: talking to armunn on private chat and box obscures your comment!
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 4:15 pm]: well... spirituality has be co-opted by science fiction by and large.
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 4:15 pm]: Tom from Cambridge England
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 4:15 pm]: been
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 4:17 pm]: @wanda: I'm glad to know about the improvement on your health at last, honestly. I'm hopeful that someone of your intelligence will be able to take a step back about the event I reported here.
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 4:19 pm]: Out for now... i have a lot of life i need to catch up on. Anyone with a problem with my outspokenness... i won't shirk any topic... even if the topic is me and i have no need to apologize for your incident report... you, or anyone can read that comment thread and make up your own minds.
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 4:20 pm]: I believe you are honest and genuine Wanda. That is enough for me. You speak with courage. I respect that.
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 4:20 pm]: Again, it's not about apologizing. For example, you accused me of being a double agent once confronted with what I reported here addressed to you
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 4:20 pm]: You accused me of being jewy... i returned the favor.
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 4:20 pm]: we need to be honest and up front in all our dealings. we owe it to ourselves, especially now. not preachin' just sayin'. see you later wanda.
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 4:21 pm]: but my actions didn't show it, yours did. I kept it here and open and honest. You went elsewhere and vented there about people who couldn't respond nor, hadn't I reported, know you talked that way.
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 4:22 pm]: do you remember when a slightly similar event happened and we sort it out privately?
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 4:24 pm]: i'd love to play you a few games of chess armunn.
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 4:25 pm]: @PeterShea: that can be arranged :)
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 4:26 pm]: :-) Fakeologist chess championship.
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 4:26 pm]: I'm not doing that anymore.
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 4:26 pm]: chess? why not?
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 4:27 pm]: LOL
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 4:27 pm]: check.
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 4:27 pm]: I meant over a chat and a few friendly drinks kind of way. the conversation as well as my probable beatings would be most enjoyable. so are you coming to Ireland or am I going to Portugal, warrior king?
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 4:28 pm]: oh, my friend, I'm not in a position to travel abroad at the moment... not enough funny paper
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 4:28 pm]: but if you ever come visit Portugal, I'll be glad to meet you
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 4:29 pm]: or should that be warrior queen? (just some fighting talk to rile the opponent, you know).
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 4:29 pm]: LOL
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 4:29 pm]: prawn takes bishop[
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 4:30 pm]: @PeterShea: that doesn't work with me, I don't compare penis sizes anymore :D
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 4:30 pm]: yeh, it's bashin your head against a brick wall
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 4:31 pm]: on and on you're just a-nother head against the wall
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 4:31 pm]: *all in all
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 4:31 pm]: almost poetic
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 4:31 pm]: did you lose it in the last chess battle armunn? you play high stakes, eh?
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 4:32 pm]: last chess battle?
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 4:32 pm]: Which is what the wailing wall is all about... the thrusting. Yep... that's real. This clown will tell you, it's pretty vile: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94rcOVJBMYQ&feature=em-share_video_user
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 4:34 pm]: you don't compare penis sizes anymore, right? that must have been a tough game!! high stakes and all.
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 4:34 pm]: yeah, to thrust one's head against a wall is a sign of insanity and it is a worship of the Architect, of course
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 4:35 pm]: comparing penis sizes at the wailing wall for money. This is an unusual site.
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 4:35 pm]: @PeterShea: ooooh I see :D It always ends in a draw, it's boring!
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 4:35 pm]: we've all done it
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 4:36 pm]: @Tom-Dalpra: I'm sure we've all done stranger things :D
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 4:37 pm]: I'm envious... NOT.
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 4:39 pm]: LOL
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 4:40 pm]: how did we get to that?
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 4:40 pm]: the P
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 4:40 pm]: The PEN IS mightier than the sword.
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 4:41 pm]: definitely
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 4:41 pm]: PEN IS
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 4:41 pm]: it does hold up against your sharp tongue though wanda.:D
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 4:41 pm]: and the film camera may be mightier than the pen
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 4:42 pm]: >:-D
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 4:42 pm]: :o)
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 4:42 pm]: try making a pun from film camera wanda. I dare you!
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 4:42 pm]: 8o
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 4:42 pm]: she's gone devil monkey with that
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 4:42 pm]: My PEN IS, I don't know about yours :D
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 4:43 pm]: NASA did it... i'll have to put my team of psychopaths on it.
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 4:43 pm]: the 'fill-em cam(e) Ra'?
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 4:43 pm]: @Tom-Dalpra: What do women say when they meet you? FILM-e with your PEN IS.
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 4:43 pm]: Well done Peter.
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 4:44 pm]: better than Armunn's, but tenuous
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 4:45 pm]: :D
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 4:45 pm]: the (fill 'em cam(e)) Ra is mightier that the pen-is?
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 4:45 pm]: funny armunn! :D
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 4:45 pm]: dazzling toilet humour
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 4:50 pm]: are you sitting in a public lavatory tom, reading the wall graffiti while posting? we had this out before. go home mate! people need those cubicles for genuine purposes/emergencies.
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 4:51 pm]: how did you know I was down the lav?
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 4:52 pm]: anyway I am off out for a few drinks. I might get to shake some from their slumber. later, friends.
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 4:52 pm]: it's a scent in the air, Tom
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 4:52 pm]: :D
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 4:52 pm]: nice to 'meet ya' Peter
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 4:53 pm]: charming Armunn. I did like your pun really
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 4:53 pm]: @PeterShea: don't overdo it - both the drinks and the waking up
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 4:53 pm]: you too tom. keep your scents about you mate!
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 4:54 pm]: @Tom-Dalpra: I'm a charming personality :D
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 4:54 pm]: no worries armunn. if I don't wake up, i'll let you know.
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 4:55 pm]: O:-D I don't even know what that thing is?
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 4:55 pm]: it's your pen-is in a public lavatory tom. fuck sake!
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 4:55 pm]: ihaha
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 4:55 pm]: :D
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 4:56 pm]: it is good to laugh out loud, even and especially if it is by and to oneself. thanks for that.
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 4:58 pm]: have fun then Peter
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 4:58 pm]: have a pint for the warrior king
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 4:58 pm]: yeh thanks.
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 4:59 pm]: have one for toilet boy too
aralsea [December 22, 2013 - 4:59 pm]: I'm eating cheese cake right now
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 4:59 pm]: sure thing T.B.
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 4:59 pm]: uuuuuuuuuuhhhhhh cheese cake!!!!:favorite:
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 5:00 pm]: strawberry covering?
aralsea [December 22, 2013 - 5:00 pm]: no just plain not too sweet
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 5:00 pm]: is this cookery hour?
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 5:00 pm]: ah the joy
aralsea [December 22, 2013 - 5:00 pm]: christmas treats
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 5:01 pm]: actually there's a challenge for you Tom
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 5:01 pm]: yup?
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 5:01 pm]: write and record a song with a traditional Cambridge dish recipe
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 5:02 pm]: r u talking to T.B. armunn? don't encourage him-you know where he is located! don't mention cheese and strawberry covering around toilet boy. I thought we agreed about this before?
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 5:02 pm]: @PeterShea: sorry Pete, my bad!
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 5:02 pm]: you seen what happened last time that started!
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 5:02 pm]: :D
aralsea [December 22, 2013 - 5:02 pm]: cheese cake should be consumed with a hot drink like tea.
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 5:03 pm]: alright. over and out friends.
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 5:03 pm]: @aralsea: over here, it's with espresso coffee
aralsea [December 22, 2013 - 5:03 pm]: espresso is too strong 4 me i like weak tea
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 5:03 pm]: roger, over peter
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 5:03 pm]: over here it is with Guinness. i'm gone!
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 5:04 pm]: I prefer Kilkenny
aralsea [December 22, 2013 - 5:04 pm]: guiness is only 4% in canadian cans
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 5:04 pm]: @aralsea: espresso is the standard coffee in Portugal. Most foreigners have your reaction :D
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 5:04 pm]: i used to drink a lot of guiness. it was my last drink of alcohol, 4 years ago.
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 5:04 pm]: you should get them to fill the cans right up aral. fuck sake!
aralsea [December 22, 2013 - 5:05 pm]: i would drink guiness on tap instead in a pub. mucho better
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 5:06 pm]: mmm draught was like cream
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 5:06 pm]: I'd drink 40 -50 pints in a weekend.
aralsea [December 22, 2013 - 5:06 pm]: @ArmunnRigh: yes I was in spain in 2010, they had lots of espresso but I love the salami and bread and seafood yummy
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 5:07 pm]: yeh, med. bread, olives, sausages..fresh fruit..fish...
aralsea [December 22, 2013 - 5:09 pm]: oh yes the food in europe is somewhat better than north america
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 5:12 pm]: @aralsea: Ah but, despite my partiality, Portuguese food is better than Spanish
aralsea [December 22, 2013 - 5:15 pm]: @ArmunnRigh: I will take your word for it. If its better than Spanish then its just better than excellent.
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 5:16 pm]: I got married to a Filipino. They've had 50 years of Hollywood and seemingly added hotdogs and coca cola to their diet + McDonalds - that, as a test case for enriching a diet and we see definite room for improvement.
aralsea [December 22, 2013 - 5:17 pm]: Me too TD, have you been to Philippines?
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 5:18 pm]: No aral. I never made it yet.
aralsea [December 22, 2013 - 5:19 pm]: Ive been twice, its an adventure unless you go to a resort only.
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 5:20 pm]: two step sons full filipino and my daughter half filipino. Interesting. I have found our differences a challenge. 10 years and it's not great
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 5:20 pm]: We have a house over there
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 5:21 pm]: Pasig City
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 5:21 pm]: Manila
aralsea [December 22, 2013 - 5:21 pm]: yes, I am 20 years with my wife including b4 we got married. there are always cultural challenges but its part of the adventure
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 5:21 pm]: @aralsea: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdffQvscDOU
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 5:22 pm]: 22:22 0n 22nd here
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 5:22 pm]: sorry ahem
aralsea [December 22, 2013 - 5:22 pm]: Ive been to pasig and baguio and Ive seen the body of Marcos in a glass box like Lenin
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 5:24 pm]: interesting, I actually don't know anything about that. Obviously the Marcos family I know.
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 5:24 pm]: @aralsea: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9c8q6mecY48
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 5:25 pm]: I love grilled sardines
aralsea [December 22, 2013 - 5:25 pm]: @ArmunnRigh: thanks I will watch later it is not playing for me now
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 5:26 pm]: i wanna know about heads of state in glass boxes psyops
aralsea [December 22, 2013 - 5:26 pm]: @Tom-Dalpra: how about tuyo small salty fish? Balut?
aralsea [December 22, 2013 - 5:28 pm]: @Tom-Dalpra: Yes Lenin ,Ho Chi Minh, Marcos, Stalin, Kim Jung Sung?
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 5:28 pm]: David Blaine - sorry
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 5:29 pm]: An Asian thing...
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 5:30 pm]: Open to the public
aralsea [December 22, 2013 - 5:32 pm]: @Tom-Dalpra: Marcos was open to the public but no video allowed
aralsea [December 22, 2013 - 5:32 pm]: it looked fake to me but could be layers of preservatives he died in 1989 http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/130308104659-06-leaders-bodies-0308-horizontal-gallery.jpg
aralsea [December 22, 2013 - 5:35 pm]: His body is far from Manila, a town called Batac, so no crowds especially now.
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 5:35 pm]: yeh...when did Nelson M die? The truth is these days, you can keep a person alive for quite a long time with the right care.
aralsea [December 22, 2013 - 5:38 pm]: he died a few weeks ago. He is buried. The former PM of Israel is still in a coma after almost 10 years. Ariel Sharon.
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 5:38 pm]: What's ten years when you're in a coma?
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 5:40 pm]: mmm that hawk
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 5:40 pm]: Sorry to cut in on your conversation, just a note: Tom - I suggested this song http://youtu.be/bAsoXIJ9P5c to Ab for the ending of his shows. I think it really fits well ;)
aralsea [December 22, 2013 - 5:43 pm]: Sharon had a stroke in January 2006. Armunn continue, I have to go nice chatting guys :P
aralsea [December 22, 2013 - 5:43 pm]: MABUHAY!
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 5:45 pm]: yeh, he may or may not be in a coma.
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 5:46 pm]: magandang umaga
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 5:47 pm]: :-) I'm really glad you like it Armunn :-) I'd love it naturally. Won't get fooled again would be one I'd play
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 5:47 pm]: as ab already has
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 5:48 pm]: maybe he'll like it
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 5:48 pm]: which one?
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 5:48 pm]: fly out of the window
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 5:49 pm]: no, i mean won't get fooled
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 5:50 pm]: you coulda fooled me.
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 5:51 pm]: it's in your uploads?
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 5:52 pm]: crossed-wires i think. i meant ab already plays that song by another group. i'd like it if he played a bit of may all your troubles fly out of the window
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 5:53 pm]: ah
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 5:53 pm]: he said he would, he likes the lyrics
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 5:53 pm]: thanks for the suggestion. we should have our own contributors for the music aswell
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 5:53 pm]: :-) :-)
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 5:54 pm]: you're the best candidate! :D
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 5:56 pm]: That would be the most worthy thing my music had ever been used for ....'
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 5:58 pm]: you've had a long career, so that's some statement right there :)
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 5:58 pm]: when the truth becomes twisted and carries you down, may the moment be waiting when you come around''
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 5:59 pm]: career? haha!!
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 5:59 pm]: it is an artistic career, regardless of the funny paper earned
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 6:00 pm]: careering around the stage for sure :-)
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 6:00 pm]: and yes
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 6:01 pm]: i never sold out
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 6:01 pm]: couldn't pull it off!
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 6:03 pm]: you are still playing with the original band members of back from "And in england"?
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 6:05 pm]: you saw the nutmeg 'reunion' in 2012. The guitarist and drummer are from then. One guitarist long dead ( 1993) and bass player gone into local government in London!
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 6:05 pm]: I play with those two sometimes but have another bar band.
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 6:05 pm]: and my own thing
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 6:06 pm]: one deceased and one assimilated, not a bad ratio though
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 6:06 pm]: haha
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 6:06 pm]: yes, quite
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 6:28 pm]: this is one of Kimberleys I sung on http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5n0FBsFox8s&noredirect=1
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 6:29 pm]: he what wrote walking on sunshine, was in the softboys
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 6:30 pm]: sun worship favourite! he's a good guy, promise! :-)
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 6:33 pm]: let me have a listen then
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 6:37 pm]: a bit too US country-style for an English road, but neatly played. Didn't do it for me, but can't fault the performance.
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 6:37 pm]: Also, what's with driving on the wrong side of the road?! :D
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 6:37 pm]: haha you prefer mine anyway :-)
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 6:39 pm]: you're right of course, as normal,i'm going to start driving on the other side,
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 6:39 pm]: goodbye
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 6:39 pm]: CRASH!!!!!!:warning::warning::warning::warning::warning:
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 6:40 pm]: Then we'll analyse the news of your car crash to check if it's real or if you faked your death
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 6:44 pm]: or if you could be held responsible for telling me to do it
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 6:44 pm]: nah, nobody would buy that - you're too determined to fall for suggestion :D
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 6:45 pm]: armunn said do it...haha sorry I'm being silly
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 6:46 pm]: "a voice told me to burn things!"
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 6:49 pm]: 'i read the news today oh boy, about a lucky man who made the grade...' that was about an aforementioned Guinness.
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 6:49 pm]: ''blew his mind out in a car''
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 6:49 pm]: and though the news was rather sad...
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 6:49 pm]: good knowledge, though it is the beatles
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 6:50 pm]: nuggets everywhere!
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 6:51 pm]: having read the book!
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 6:51 pm]: what book
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 6:51 pm]: history is pre-written
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 6:51 pm]: ah sorry, slow of me
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 6:51 pm]: or written before we know it!
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 6:52 pm]: some believe that it is even written before it's "written"
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 6:53 pm]: is that fatalism?
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 6:53 pm]: very big in portuguese culture - fado
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 6:56 pm]: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZnp8ucu4_o
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 7:00 pm]: the lyrics in english: http://lyricstranslate.com/pt-br/fado-da-sina-destinys-fado.html
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 7:06 pm]: your light at the foot of the cross already extinguished...I'm not sure...it's a bit...FATAL
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 7:07 pm]: of course it is, that's portuguese for ya! Glad I'm not one of them! :P
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 7:07 pm]: The history we see written is contrived deception
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 7:07 pm]: yes sorry
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 7:08 pm]: me slow
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 7:13 pm]: Was just thinking today. A brown man in the whitehouse and Mandella dies and Africa...there's clearly a military/islamic fundamentalism move there looking at the Woolwich op....Barry in the House...he has so much credibility to the masses. Rather like Clinton...he fools a whole bunch of people...humanitarian 'war' and reshaping of Africa would be my prediction for future history...
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 7:14 pm]: as far as they're concerned, africa is right where they want them: poor, sick and willingly raped
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 7:15 pm]: pirates in somalia is it in Hanks movie...they're building up islamic fundamentalism in Kenya again...there's history. big bomb pre 9/11
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 7:16 pm]: all you said stands
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 7:16 pm]: islam is being played just like christians
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 7:21 pm]: oh well, thanks for the chat tom, I'll catch you some other time. Time to hit the sack!
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 7:22 pm]: Nite Armunn. Thanks for your time. happy holidays
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 7:22 pm]: you too
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 11:24 pm]: i am proud of you all, my friends. truth, honesty, dignity and honour will prevail. in fact, i have a deep feeling that they already have. ffffrrrreeeeedddommmmmmm!..............mmmmuuuunnnnccchhhhhiiiiieeeeeessss! :)
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 11:26 pm]: wiiiiibbbbblllyyywwwwoooobbbbilllyyywwwwonnnnder!!!! later.
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 11:29 pm]: sorry, that was meant to end ...lllllaaaaaaattttterrrrrrrrrrrr! my bad and ig'nant!
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 11:41 pm]: i am thinking of entitling my next song 'rigormortis blues', but i am not dead set on that title. a bientot.
knagjak [December 22, 2013 - 11:55 pm]: Just gt off work. Hoping for some talk talk. Just got done listening to a red ice radio audio and I'm pumped"
PeterShea [December 23, 2013 - 12:27 am]: pump it up knagjak. pump it up!