PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 3:18 pm]: why do we have all the known gatekeepers (fetzer et al) down on the jews now? I only want truth as well wanda and condemn all who would enslave and abuse their fellow man.
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 3:20 pm]: Infiltrators. Jews like to control all sides of the wars they start for profit. How many times has Fetzer been caught lying? Denying 9-11 in 2013? Implausible.
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 3:20 pm]: Wanda what did you think of the Mike Delanay and John Friend debate about all this
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 3:21 pm]: John behaved well. Delaney and Scott's behavior was less than... well, human. It was like watching a white chimp out.
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 3:21 pm]: But they are all Jew this jew that tho?
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 3:22 pm]: and I would seriously like your take on my 9/11/jews question. look to how many are now exposing the holocaust hoax. why and how?
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 3:22 pm]: John was trying to rationalize
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 3:23 pm]: Subsequently... Delaney and all the others tried to make John out to be a bad guy... tried to force him into compliance. John stated simply that he can see what he's dealing with and he's having nothing more to do with it... and that is respectable. Further, he has had nothing more to do with them... and that is honorable.
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 3:23 pm]: They were even accusing Simon Shack as a jew it was getting a little absurd really
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 3:24 pm]: Delaney and scott are sold out. clear as day. so why? if they push the jews so hard, then we have more questions and less answers. and that is the only show I ever heard them on.
Dustyash [December 22, 2013 - 3:24 pm]: So true Peter very good
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 3:25 pm]: I think they are paid to push the jews do everything spiel. do the jews pay them?
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 3:25 pm]: Well, excuse me, but the whole White Supremacy... Christian Identity thing is, on it's face, a farce. It is divisive. What more do we need to know?
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 3:25 pm]: so who pays them?
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 3:27 pm]: There are only about a million, literally, organizations, think tanks, false front operations out there that could be paying them. In the end... it is all of them because they are focused and cohesive... unlike us... they keep us baffled with this b.s.
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 3:28 pm]: So why do we do it? They are identified... move on.
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 3:29 pm]: Like John Friend... he spotted it, called it for what it was and he is past it.
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 3:29 pm]: And that is not to say John Friend isn't just more clever than others... and he is squeaky clean. That is an unknown.
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 3:31 pm]: And... i'd also like to point out that all these things in operation to undo us has been paid for by money stolen from us.
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 3:36 pm]: but if the jews run the show, why are jews paying for the jews to be outed/exposed? do you still represent your legal name wanda? have you come across the links I posted when I joined the chat first 2night?
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 3:38 pm]: Ask the jews... better yet, find your own answers. That it is the jews... historically it has always been the jews. When you run a scam for thousands of years, you get quite good at controlling all the sides, you got more than a few tricks up your sleeves.
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 3:38 pm]: I have no idea what you mean by do i still represent my legal name.
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 3:41 pm]: http://kateofgaia.wordpress.com/ and then listen at your leisure http://kateofgaia.wordpress.com/kate-on-the-radio/ the trick exposed and the greater game uncovered.
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 3:43 pm]: by representing your legally given name you represent in contract a dead entity and fictional strawman.
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 3:44 pm]: Oh... alright, i know what you're talking about Pete. All that does by playing the game as they present it is legitimizing their horsesh*t. Prior to their absolute control our word was our bond. We need to destroy their involuntary contract based system for an honest one.
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 3:45 pm]: And nothing less. No hidden meanings of words... no got-chas.
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 3:45 pm]: No games.
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 3:47 pm]: When has writing to or otherwise petitioning the psychopaths ever worked. Talk to the wall, you get more results... the paint will eventually chip.
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 3:49 pm]: And the only way we are going to do that is to drop the imposed mind control meme of not outing the jews... it is not racist to say who is doing it if they are doing it, and they are.
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 3:51 pm]: @wanda: it is never anti anything to expose people for what they do, regardless of their race, ideology or religion, agreed
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 3:52 pm]: @wanda: The fear to offend is a chain
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 3:52 pm]: A chain? Explain please.
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 3:52 pm]: a chain that arrests people
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 3:53 pm]: Ah... it is a cultural thing. Yes, agreed. It is a cage.
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 3:55 pm]: If we can have an open and honest dialogue about any group... especially one as out in the open and active, so easily provable as the jew... then we can't have honesty... period.
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 3:56 pm]: typo... first can should have been a can't.
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 3:57 pm]: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wtdFf5QLFw my longtime most favourite song...'all of these signs saying sorry but we're closed. all the way, down the telegraph road.'
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 4:00 pm]: my point exactly: open and honest. Also, discussion is presentation of arguments. In it it is expected that the person/people on the other side of the discussion may not agree with what we present. My focus, speaking personally, is on checking myself for what of me might become my enslavers. Most willing victims, on all levels, from the bottom up, only call out until they get a slice of the pie.
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 4:00 pm]: Or when they already get a piece, when another group is getting a bigger slice.
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 4:00 pm]: most people's motivations are a desire to be included and not to leave the cages
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 4:02 pm]: that's why it's hard to speak to anyone about anything that might shake a "good deal" they might be having
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 4:02 pm]: why would they want to leave their cages, what with all their chain-stores.....?
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 4:02 pm]: indeed. The web of lies is a comfort blanket
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 4:02 pm]: but we should not take comfort as a good sign in a world of insanity - at least that's my take
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 4:03 pm]: And i agree with that. There is only one pie... you can get an infinite amount of slices out of it. The slices get jammed with greasy fingers and more slices need to be made for even more fingers to get stuck into... eventually you looking at what we're looking at now. So many criminals so few dupes left to siphon off.
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 4:03 pm]: the only pie is spiritual.
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 4:04 pm]: i dunno, there's a few dupes round my way still
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 4:04 pm]: Maybe they need to look up and see the chem trails... smell and taste the water... etc.
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 4:04 pm]: @PeterShea: you can't eat spiritual food
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 4:04 pm]: pie in the sky?
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 4:04 pm]: yes - Peter
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 4:04 pm]: Amen.
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 4:05 pm]: what am I armunn?
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 4:05 pm]: you're asking me?
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 4:05 pm]: Are you religious Peter?
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 4:05 pm]: no wanda.
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 4:06 pm]: jesus was a mushroom!
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 4:06 pm]: Oh.
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 4:06 pm]: Yes he was... thank you.
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 4:06 pm]: welcome.
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 4:09 pm]: Hey... Armunn... after almost dying twice in the last 3 months, i am on the fifth day in a row of feeling good... feeling healthier. That hasn't happened two days in a row, so i can finally be hopeful.
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 4:10 pm]: calling religion bullshit is soo 20th century...calling science bullshit starts here.
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 4:11 pm]: science isn't bullshit, just controlled.
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 4:11 pm]: Agreed Tom... in the final analysis, it is all religion... right on down to government. One big fat myth.
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 4:11 pm]: pseudo science.
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 4:12 pm]: yes, badly worded, Peter I'll take that
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 4:12 pm]: intellectualism... another ism... sci-fi is more like it.
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 4:13 pm]: it's like you say spirituality isn't bullshit. mainstream religion is. Science isn't bullshit, mainstream science as presented, is.
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 4:13 pm]: is that tom from connecticut?
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 4:15 pm]: talking to armunn on private chat and box obscures your comment!
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 4:15 pm]: well... spirituality has be co-opted by science fiction by and large.
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 4:15 pm]: Tom from Cambridge England
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 4:15 pm]: been
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 4:17 pm]: @wanda: I'm glad to know about the improvement on your health at last, honestly. I'm hopeful that someone of your intelligence will be able to take a step back about the event I reported here.
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 4:19 pm]: Out for now... i have a lot of life i need to catch up on. Anyone with a problem with my outspokenness... i won't shirk any topic... even if the topic is me and i have no need to apologize for your incident report... you, or anyone can read that comment thread and make up your own minds.
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 4:20 pm]: I believe you are honest and genuine Wanda. That is enough for me. You speak with courage. I respect that.
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 4:20 pm]: Again, it's not about apologizing. For example, you accused me of being a double agent once confronted with what I reported here addressed to you
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 4:20 pm]: You accused me of being jewy... i returned the favor.
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 4:20 pm]: we need to be honest and up front in all our dealings. we owe it to ourselves, especially now. not preachin' just sayin'. see you later wanda.
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 4:21 pm]: but my actions didn't show it, yours did. I kept it here and open and honest. You went elsewhere and vented there about people who couldn't respond nor, hadn't I reported, know you talked that way.
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 4:22 pm]: do you remember when a slightly similar event happened and we sort it out privately?
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 4:24 pm]: i'd love to play you a few games of chess armunn.
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 4:25 pm]: @PeterShea: that can be arranged :)
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 4:26 pm]: :-) Fakeologist chess championship.
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 4:26 pm]: I'm not doing that anymore.
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 4:26 pm]: chess? why not?
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 4:27 pm]: LOL
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 4:27 pm]: check.
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 4:27 pm]: I meant over a chat and a few friendly drinks kind of way. the conversation as well as my probable beatings would be most enjoyable. so are you coming to Ireland or am I going to Portugal, warrior king?
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 4:28 pm]: oh, my friend, I'm not in a position to travel abroad at the moment... not enough funny paper
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 4:28 pm]: but if you ever come visit Portugal, I'll be glad to meet you
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 4:29 pm]: or should that be warrior queen? (just some fighting talk to rile the opponent, you know).
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 4:29 pm]: LOL
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 4:29 pm]: prawn takes bishop[
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 4:30 pm]: @PeterShea: that doesn't work with me, I don't compare penis sizes anymore :D
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 4:30 pm]: yeh, it's bashin your head against a brick wall
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 4:31 pm]: on and on you're just a-nother head against the wall
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 4:31 pm]: *all in all
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 4:31 pm]: almost poetic
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 4:31 pm]: did you lose it in the last chess battle armunn? you play high stakes, eh?
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 4:32 pm]: last chess battle?
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 4:32 pm]: Which is what the wailing wall is all about... the thrusting. Yep... that's real. This clown will tell you, it's pretty vile: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94rcOVJBMYQ&feature=em-share_video_user
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 4:34 pm]: you don't compare penis sizes anymore, right? that must have been a tough game!! high stakes and all.
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 4:34 pm]: yeah, to thrust one's head against a wall is a sign of insanity and it is a worship of the Architect, of course
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 4:35 pm]: comparing penis sizes at the wailing wall for money. This is an unusual site.
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 4:35 pm]: @PeterShea: ooooh I see :D It always ends in a draw, it's boring!
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 4:35 pm]: we've all done it
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 4:36 pm]: @Tom-Dalpra: I'm sure we've all done stranger things :D
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 4:37 pm]: I'm envious... NOT.
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 4:39 pm]: LOL
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 4:40 pm]: how did we get to that?
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 4:40 pm]: the P
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 4:40 pm]: The PEN IS mightier than the sword.
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 4:41 pm]: definitely
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 4:41 pm]: PEN IS
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 4:41 pm]: it does hold up against your sharp tongue though wanda.:D
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 4:41 pm]: and the film camera may be mightier than the pen
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 4:42 pm]: >:-D
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 4:42 pm]: :o)
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 4:42 pm]: try making a pun from film camera wanda. I dare you!
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 4:42 pm]: 8o
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 4:42 pm]: she's gone devil monkey with that
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 4:42 pm]: My PEN IS, I don't know about yours :D
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 4:43 pm]: NASA did it... i'll have to put my team of psychopaths on it.
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 4:43 pm]: the 'fill-em cam(e) Ra'?
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 4:43 pm]: @Tom-Dalpra: What do women say when they meet you? FILM-e with your PEN IS.
wanda [December 22, 2013 - 4:43 pm]: Well done Peter.
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 4:44 pm]: better than Armunn's, but tenuous
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 4:45 pm]: :D
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 4:45 pm]: the (fill 'em cam(e)) Ra is mightier that the pen-is?
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 4:45 pm]: funny armunn! :D
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 4:45 pm]: dazzling toilet humour
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 4:50 pm]: are you sitting in a public lavatory tom, reading the wall graffiti while posting? we had this out before. go home mate! people need those cubicles for genuine purposes/emergencies.
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 4:51 pm]: how did you know I was down the lav?
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 4:52 pm]: anyway I am off out for a few drinks. I might get to shake some from their slumber. later, friends.
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 4:52 pm]: it's a scent in the air, Tom
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 4:52 pm]: :D
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 4:52 pm]: nice to 'meet ya' Peter
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 4:53 pm]: charming Armunn. I did like your pun really
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 4:53 pm]: @PeterShea: don't overdo it - both the drinks and the waking up
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 4:53 pm]: you too tom. keep your scents about you mate!
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 4:54 pm]: @Tom-Dalpra: I'm a charming personality :D
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 4:54 pm]: no worries armunn. if I don't wake up, i'll let you know.
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 4:55 pm]: O:-D I don't even know what that thing is?
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 4:55 pm]: it's your pen-is in a public lavatory tom. fuck sake!
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 4:55 pm]: ihaha
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 4:55 pm]: :D
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 4:56 pm]: it is good to laugh out loud, even and especially if it is by and to oneself. thanks for that.
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 4:58 pm]: have fun then Peter
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 4:58 pm]: have a pint for the warrior king
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 4:58 pm]: yeh thanks.
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 4:59 pm]: have one for toilet boy too
aralsea [December 22, 2013 - 4:59 pm]: I'm eating cheese cake right now
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 4:59 pm]: sure thing T.B.
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 4:59 pm]: uuuuuuuuuuhhhhhh cheese cake!!!!:favorite:
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 5:00 pm]: strawberry covering?
aralsea [December 22, 2013 - 5:00 pm]: no just plain not too sweet
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 5:00 pm]: is this cookery hour?
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 5:00 pm]: ah the joy
aralsea [December 22, 2013 - 5:00 pm]: christmas treats
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 5:01 pm]: actually there's a challenge for you Tom
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 5:01 pm]: yup?
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 5:01 pm]: write and record a song with a traditional Cambridge dish recipe
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 5:02 pm]: r u talking to T.B. armunn? don't encourage him-you know where he is located! don't mention cheese and strawberry covering around toilet boy. I thought we agreed about this before?
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 5:02 pm]: @PeterShea: sorry Pete, my bad!
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 5:02 pm]: you seen what happened last time that started!
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 5:02 pm]: :D
aralsea [December 22, 2013 - 5:02 pm]: cheese cake should be consumed with a hot drink like tea.
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 5:03 pm]: alright. over and out friends.
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 5:03 pm]: @aralsea: over here, it's with espresso coffee
aralsea [December 22, 2013 - 5:03 pm]: espresso is too strong 4 me i like weak tea
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 5:03 pm]: roger, over peter
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 5:03 pm]: over here it is with Guinness. i'm gone!
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 5:04 pm]: I prefer Kilkenny
aralsea [December 22, 2013 - 5:04 pm]: guiness is only 4% in canadian cans
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 5:04 pm]: @aralsea: espresso is the standard coffee in Portugal. Most foreigners have your reaction :D
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 5:04 pm]: i used to drink a lot of guiness. it was my last drink of alcohol, 4 years ago.
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 5:04 pm]: you should get them to fill the cans right up aral. fuck sake!
aralsea [December 22, 2013 - 5:05 pm]: i would drink guiness on tap instead in a pub. mucho better
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 5:06 pm]: mmm draught was like cream
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 5:06 pm]: I'd drink 40 -50 pints in a weekend.
aralsea [December 22, 2013 - 5:06 pm]: @ArmunnRigh: yes I was in spain in 2010, they had lots of espresso but I love the salami and bread and seafood yummy
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 5:07 pm]: yeh, med. bread, olives, sausages..fresh fruit..fish...
aralsea [December 22, 2013 - 5:09 pm]: oh yes the food in europe is somewhat better than north america
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 5:12 pm]: @aralsea: Ah but, despite my partiality, Portuguese food is better than Spanish
aralsea [December 22, 2013 - 5:15 pm]: @ArmunnRigh: I will take your word for it. If its better than Spanish then its just better than excellent.
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 5:16 pm]: I got married to a Filipino. They've had 50 years of Hollywood and seemingly added hotdogs and coca cola to their diet + McDonalds - that, as a test case for enriching a diet and we see definite room for improvement.
aralsea [December 22, 2013 - 5:17 pm]: Me too TD, have you been to Philippines?
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 5:18 pm]: No aral. I never made it yet.
aralsea [December 22, 2013 - 5:19 pm]: Ive been twice, its an adventure unless you go to a resort only.
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 5:20 pm]: two step sons full filipino and my daughter half filipino. Interesting. I have found our differences a challenge. 10 years and it's not great
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 5:20 pm]: We have a house over there
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 5:21 pm]: Pasig City
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 5:21 pm]: Manila
aralsea [December 22, 2013 - 5:21 pm]: yes, I am 20 years with my wife including b4 we got married. there are always cultural challenges but its part of the adventure
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 5:21 pm]: @aralsea: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdffQvscDOU
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 5:22 pm]: 22:22 0n 22nd here
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 5:22 pm]: sorry ahem
aralsea [December 22, 2013 - 5:22 pm]: Ive been to pasig and baguio and Ive seen the body of Marcos in a glass box like Lenin
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 5:24 pm]: interesting, I actually don't know anything about that. Obviously the Marcos family I know.
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 5:24 pm]: @aralsea: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9c8q6mecY48
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 5:25 pm]: I love grilled sardines
aralsea [December 22, 2013 - 5:25 pm]: @ArmunnRigh: thanks I will watch later it is not playing for me now
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 5:26 pm]: i wanna know about heads of state in glass boxes psyops
aralsea [December 22, 2013 - 5:26 pm]: @Tom-Dalpra: how about tuyo small salty fish? Balut?
aralsea [December 22, 2013 - 5:28 pm]: @Tom-Dalpra: Yes Lenin ,Ho Chi Minh, Marcos, Stalin, Kim Jung Sung?
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 5:28 pm]: David Blaine - sorry
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 5:29 pm]: An Asian thing...
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 5:30 pm]: Open to the public
aralsea [December 22, 2013 - 5:32 pm]: @Tom-Dalpra: Marcos was open to the public but no video allowed
aralsea [December 22, 2013 - 5:32 pm]: it looked fake to me but could be layers of preservatives he died in 1989 http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/130308104659-06-leaders-bodies-0308-horizontal-gallery.jpg
aralsea [December 22, 2013 - 5:35 pm]: His body is far from Manila, a town called Batac, so no crowds especially now.
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 5:35 pm]: yeh...when did Nelson M die? The truth is these days, you can keep a person alive for quite a long time with the right care.
aralsea [December 22, 2013 - 5:38 pm]: he died a few weeks ago. He is buried. The former PM of Israel is still in a coma after almost 10 years. Ariel Sharon.
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 5:38 pm]: What's ten years when you're in a coma?
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 5:40 pm]: mmm that hawk
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 5:40 pm]: Sorry to cut in on your conversation, just a note: Tom - I suggested this song http://youtu.be/bAsoXIJ9P5c to Ab for the ending of his shows. I think it really fits well ;)
aralsea [December 22, 2013 - 5:43 pm]: Sharon had a stroke in January 2006. Armunn continue, I have to go nice chatting guys :P
aralsea [December 22, 2013 - 5:43 pm]: MABUHAY!
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 5:45 pm]: yeh, he may or may not be in a coma.
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 5:46 pm]: magandang umaga
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 5:47 pm]: :-) I'm really glad you like it Armunn :-) I'd love it naturally. Won't get fooled again would be one I'd play
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 5:47 pm]: as ab already has
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 5:48 pm]: maybe he'll like it
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 5:48 pm]: which one?
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 5:48 pm]: fly out of the window
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 5:49 pm]: no, i mean won't get fooled
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 5:50 pm]: you coulda fooled me.
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 5:51 pm]: it's in your uploads?
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 5:52 pm]: crossed-wires i think. i meant ab already plays that song by another group. i'd like it if he played a bit of may all your troubles fly out of the window
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 5:53 pm]: ah
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 5:53 pm]: he said he would, he likes the lyrics
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 5:53 pm]: thanks for the suggestion. we should have our own contributors for the music aswell
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 5:53 pm]: :-) :-)
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 5:54 pm]: you're the best candidate! :D
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 5:56 pm]: That would be the most worthy thing my music had ever been used for ....'
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 5:58 pm]: you've had a long career, so that's some statement right there :)
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 5:58 pm]: when the truth becomes twisted and carries you down, may the moment be waiting when you come around''
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 5:59 pm]: career? haha!!
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 5:59 pm]: it is an artistic career, regardless of the funny paper earned
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 6:00 pm]: careering around the stage for sure :-)
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 6:00 pm]: and yes
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 6:01 pm]: i never sold out
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 6:01 pm]: couldn't pull it off!
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 6:03 pm]: you are still playing with the original band members of back from "And in england"?
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 6:05 pm]: you saw the nutmeg 'reunion' in 2012. The guitarist and drummer are from then. One guitarist long dead ( 1993) and bass player gone into local government in London!
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 6:05 pm]: I play with those two sometimes but have another bar band.
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 6:05 pm]: and my own thing
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 6:06 pm]: one deceased and one assimilated, not a bad ratio though
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 6:06 pm]: haha
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 6:06 pm]: yes, quite
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 6:28 pm]: this is one of Kimberleys I sung on http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5n0FBsFox8s&noredirect=1
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 6:29 pm]: he what wrote walking on sunshine, was in the softboys
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 6:30 pm]: sun worship favourite! he's a good guy, promise! :-)
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 6:33 pm]: let me have a listen then
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 6:37 pm]: a bit too US country-style for an English road, but neatly played. Didn't do it for me, but can't fault the performance.
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 6:37 pm]: Also, what's with driving on the wrong side of the road?! :D
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 6:37 pm]: haha you prefer mine anyway :-)
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 6:39 pm]: you're right of course, as normal,i'm going to start driving on the other side,
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 6:39 pm]: goodbye
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 6:39 pm]: CRASH!!!!!!:warning::warning::warning::warning::warning:
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 6:40 pm]: Then we'll analyse the news of your car crash to check if it's real or if you faked your death
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 6:44 pm]: or if you could be held responsible for telling me to do it
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 6:44 pm]: nah, nobody would buy that - you're too determined to fall for suggestion :D
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 6:45 pm]: armunn said do it...haha sorry I'm being silly
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 6:46 pm]: "a voice told me to burn things!"
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 6:49 pm]: 'i read the news today oh boy, about a lucky man who made the grade...' that was about an aforementioned Guinness.
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 6:49 pm]: ''blew his mind out in a car''
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 6:49 pm]: and though the news was rather sad...
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 6:49 pm]: good knowledge, though it is the beatles
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 6:50 pm]: nuggets everywhere!
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 6:51 pm]: having read the book!
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 6:51 pm]: what book
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 6:51 pm]: history is pre-written
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 6:51 pm]: ah sorry, slow of me
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 6:51 pm]: or written before we know it!
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 6:52 pm]: some believe that it is even written before it's "written"
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 6:53 pm]: is that fatalism?
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 6:53 pm]: very big in portuguese culture - fado
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 6:56 pm]: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZnp8ucu4_o
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 7:00 pm]: the lyrics in english: http://lyricstranslate.com/pt-br/fado-da-sina-destinys-fado.html
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 7:06 pm]: your light at the foot of the cross already extinguished...I'm not sure...it's a bit...FATAL
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 7:07 pm]: of course it is, that's portuguese for ya! Glad I'm not one of them! :P
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 7:07 pm]: The history we see written is contrived deception
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 7:07 pm]: yes sorry
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 7:08 pm]: me slow
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 7:13 pm]: Was just thinking today. A brown man in the whitehouse and Mandella dies and Africa...there's clearly a military/islamic fundamentalism move there looking at the Woolwich op....Barry in the House...he has so much credibility to the masses. Rather like Clinton...he fools a whole bunch of people...humanitarian 'war' and reshaping of Africa would be my prediction for future history...
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 7:14 pm]: as far as they're concerned, africa is right where they want them: poor, sick and willingly raped
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 7:15 pm]: pirates in somalia is it in Hanks movie...they're building up islamic fundamentalism in Kenya again...there's history. big bomb pre 9/11
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 7:16 pm]: all you said stands
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 7:16 pm]: islam is being played just like christians
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 7:21 pm]: oh well, thanks for the chat tom, I'll catch you some other time. Time to hit the sack!
Tom-Dalpra [December 22, 2013 - 7:22 pm]: Nite Armunn. Thanks for your time. happy holidays
ArmunnRigh [December 22, 2013 - 7:22 pm]: you too
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 11:24 pm]: i am proud of you all, my friends. truth, honesty, dignity and honour will prevail. in fact, i have a deep feeling that they already have. ffffrrrreeeeedddommmmmmm!..............mmmmuuuunnnnccchhhhhiiiiieeeeeessss! :)
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 11:26 pm]: wiiiiibbbbblllyyywwwwoooobbbbilllyyywwwwonnnnder!!!! later.
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 11:29 pm]: sorry, that was meant to end ...lllllaaaaaaattttterrrrrrrrrrrr! my bad and ig'nant!
PeterShea [December 22, 2013 - 11:41 pm]: i am thinking of entitling my next song 'rigormortis blues', but i am not dead set on that title. a bientot.
knagjak [December 22, 2013 - 11:55 pm]: Just gt off work. Hoping for some talk talk. Just got done listening to a red ice radio audio and I'm pumped"
PeterShea [December 23, 2013 - 12:27 am]: pump it up knagjak. pump it up!
ab [December 23, 2013 - 12:58 pm]: Should get ep81 online today if generator works. Power is still out in parts of Toronto
Jan Erik Hansen [December 23, 2013 - 1:08 pm]: AHA that is why there is no audio !
Jan Erik Hansen [December 23, 2013 - 1:12 pm]: Where i used to live it was winterstorms each winter ! No BIG DEAL ! Now lately its made a fr MEME in the news ! Its laughable ! Mary XMAS and no FEAR weather is as normal !
Jan Erik Hansen [December 23, 2013 - 1:12 pm]: FEAR MEME !!!
Jan Erik Hansen [December 23, 2013 - 1:16 pm]: The constant use of Fear requires the constant invention of new images for the mind to Fear. Therefore, states that constantly use Fear as a primary lever of authority must maintain a close relationship with creative storytellers and means of publication / broadcasting new elaborate Fears.
Jan Erik Hansen [December 23, 2013 - 1:16 pm]: The deficiency of Fear is that over time a population becomes gradually immune to Fear, requiring either a complete and deliberate destruction of social fabric followed by reconstruction of a controlled society or the inevitable loss of power by those addicted to using Fear.
Jan Erik Hansen [December 23, 2013 - 1:35 pm]: Prejudice, or “hate” is one (1) of six (6) emotions of influence and control used by minorities in power to manipulate populations by modifying the (6) six ancient primordial biological emotions. Prejudice is based on the second primordial emotion of fight or violence against perceived threats, real or deliberately and artificially constructed.
Jan Erik Hansen [December 23, 2013 - 1:56 pm]: In order to promote institutionalized Fear, the minority seeking control of a society need to create enemies - real or imagined. Hence the use of prejudice to influence the society into creating new enemies within and without - whether justified or not.
Jan Erik Hansen [December 23, 2013 - 2:02 pm]: Australian cop stoned http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98fFXYFJfjw
Jan Erik Hansen [December 23, 2013 - 2:07 pm]: This is how the Media lies to the public : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zn3OCAR2dHs
ArmunnRigh [December 23, 2013 - 2:38 pm]: Interesting
JohnnyClues [December 23, 2013 - 2:46 pm]: Sandy Hook Hoax Replay Alexis and The Helping Hand with Bonus Shoulder Squeeze http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CehORG-JVg
ArmunnRigh [December 23, 2013 - 3:07 pm]: Hey there Johnny
Jan Erik Hansen [December 23, 2013 - 3:32 pm]: Son of Threat Narrative: The Slavery Sweet Spot http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKyQvfBQ8c8
Jan Erik Hansen [December 23, 2013 - 3:56 pm]: Deductive Logic, also known as Deductive Reasoning is a formal method of achieving an inference using Bivalent Linear Logic by the assumption of a certain conclusion which necessarily flows from a set of premises or hypothesis.
Jan Erik Hansen [December 23, 2013 - 3:56 pm]: According to Bivalent Linear Logic, a deductive argument is considered valid if the conclusion follows necessarily from the premises themselves considered valid and true.
Johan Backes [December 23, 2013 - 11:22 pm]: hey Ab, tell me what model genset you are looking into, I can likely get you a better deal on the unit and installation ...
farcevalue [December 24, 2013 - 10:19 am]: @ab: Sorry to hear about your loss of power, I posted a query about the episode. I should have looked here first. Happy Holidays to you and yours.
ab [December 24, 2013 - 11:08 am]: @Johan Backes: I don't really have a model in mind. I need a proper installer in the Toronto area to handle all aspects, from gas install, unit install on concrete pad, re-wiring of breaker box with transfer switch. I think I'll need a 10-15 kwh unit. Not sure if I should go natural gas (convenient) or stand alone propane tank (more dangerous?)
ab [December 24, 2013 - 12:09 pm]: ep81 is up via my phone's internet. still no power. using genny for basics
PeterShea [December 24, 2013 - 2:14 pm]: 3 days of darkness tim? I wonder has Toronto any special significance..... ''In 1793, Toronto, then known as York, was named capital of the new colony of Upper Canada''..Wiki. that's 220 years ago my friend. I lived in York U.K. for about 6 months in 2010, and it was following my return that I accelerated on the road to greater truth. York was the Roman centre in Britian and I believe the emp
PeterShea [December 24, 2013 - 2:23 pm]: ..the empire has expired. I predict your electric (light) comes back after 3 days, and as I said before, I think 25/12/2013 marks the beginning of a new and golden age. (I could sure do with it!) the Apollo theatre fake collapse symbolises the sky falling in on the old world of elitism and division.
PeterShea [December 24, 2013 - 2:31 pm]: the world today is a theater, a stage, much like the apollo theater, thus the world is ''apollo's theater. the 'heavens' came crashing down upon the stage, during the 'dog' sirius/anubis show.'' on the side of the red bus featured in the 'reporting'.... -joyful and triumphant.....the royal exchange! happy times to you and your family tim, and to all the other good souls here.
PeterShea [December 24, 2013 - 2:32 pm]: and everywhere.
PeterShea [December 24, 2013 - 4:14 pm]: anyone else heard it floated around that this is the last Christmas? http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=264324 out with the old?
Tom-Dalpra [December 24, 2013 - 6:30 pm]: ' last Christmas, I gave you my heart...' - David Icke and what we now know about goalkeepers...and gatekeepers...funny old game...that Christmas tree sitting there, the pyramid with the star on top and we tell a story to our children...that an all powerful bloke in red delivers presents to everyone. It wasn't HIM it was me. Working my ass off and paying HIM for the honour haha
Tom-Dalpra [December 24, 2013 - 6:34 pm]: Happy holidays people
simonshack [December 24, 2013 - 8:18 pm]: Yes, happy holidays to all ! :)
Bootleg_Bill [December 24, 2013 - 9:23 pm]: Everyone have a great time with their friends and family everyday you can. You most likely have traveled a long, secluded path to get here. And even tho they may not have even begun to look for this path. Love them the same and even more. Cheers to all.
Bootleg_Bill [December 24, 2013 - 9:26 pm]: @Ab. sucks you have no juice homie. hope you get to stay warm and enjoy your peps the same.
ab [December 24, 2013 - 9:58 pm]: Power is back, internet is back. We will resume normal de-programming shortly after a brief orgy of paganism exchange tomorrow. Merry Christmas to all who lean that way.:-)
Tom-Dalpra [December 25, 2013 - 4:22 pm]: NASA TV right now for some laughs
Tom-Dalpra [December 25, 2013 - 4:24 pm]: live space walk. beware of drowning,
Tom-Dalpra [December 25, 2013 - 4:27 pm]: finger start your p clamp and mate that beauty
aralsea [December 25, 2013 - 4:49 pm]: @ab: I lost my power for 2.5 days. Thankful that our power is back but not happy that we are so helpless without it. There's got to be a better way.
ab [December 25, 2013 - 7:42 pm]: @aralsea: generator. mine didn't work, had it repaired Monday for Monday night. Will get a permanent and more reliable backup in spring, as I intended to do during the last (planned) blackout of 2-3 days.
aralsea [December 25, 2013 - 8:53 pm]: @ab: Yes, a wood burning stove would be nice too. Or how about a solar generator? Something off the grid.
aralsea [December 25, 2013 - 8:56 pm]: @ab: "In the spring" yes hopefully it wont happen again this winter.
aralsea [December 25, 2013 - 8:59 pm]: Cheap solar generator maybe it can power a lamp and an electric heater? http://dx.com/p/solar-powered-4500mah-generator-w-2-led-bulbs-power-bank-blue-white-silver-208692?tc=CAD&gclid=CIOBnt7kzLsCFcpDMgodECQAXA#.UruM-9Sfiw0
knagjak [December 25, 2013 - 11:11 pm]: :important: the weather man is so funny to watch on the news. :warning::warning: SO LOOK AT WHAT WE WE GOT HERE 43 IN SPANKSVILLE 35 IN HOMEYTOWN GOTTA SEVERE STORM SYSTEM FORMING IN THE EAST HERE IN THE RED, VERY DANGEROUS COULD CAUSE SOME SEVERE TERRORIST LEVEL BLISTERS ON YOUR BUTT BUT DONT WORRY WE WILL BE HERE TO KEEP YOU COVERED WITH THE ANTIBIOTIC OINTMENT 8). NOW TO CHEVY SPEARS
ab [December 26, 2013 - 6:42 am]: @aralsea: I doubt any of the solar farms were producing a spark of electricity: there was no sun this week, and they'd be covered in a layer of ice and snow. The windmills have been still as well. A cheap solar panel might heat a few square feet, but not a house.
columjaddica [December 27, 2013 - 12:33 am]: The idea of a cloud of extinction-level radiation coming from Japan to the US sounds like cosmic revenge for Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Seems perfect.
columjaddica [December 27, 2013 - 1:20 am]: CCR: Who'll stop the rain? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIPan-rEQJA
columjaddica [December 27, 2013 - 1:21 am]: I think that CCR knows, but not sure on which side they sat
columjaddica [December 27, 2013 - 1:23 am]: They have lots of mysterious lyrics, and lots of use of water as a symbol. That's one of the memes of the past year IMO, water. It showed up over and over again, especially rivers.
Tom-Dalpra [December 27, 2013 - 2:17 pm]: There certainly was an awakening to a band being a controlled entity when I first saw the cover from Super Tramp's - Breakfast In America.
Tom-Dalpra [December 27, 2013 - 5:30 pm]: in mirror image...13. From 13 you go 'From the Darknesss' maybe...into the light...into 14...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-wjdVuI8n4
aralsea [December 27, 2013 - 8:02 pm]: @Tom-Dalpra: The Beatles have a massive narrative. Even the pre fame days have a lot of depth. If The Beatles history is fabricated, then they did a very professional job.
Jan Erik Hansen [December 27, 2013 - 10:07 pm]: WTF is in your food http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVQjKpp11ss
Tom-Dalpra [December 28, 2013 - 4:35 am]: @aralsea: Having grown up in England and being in rock'n'roll bands, the story of The Beatles is very close to me. Can be tricky to see it... How contrived were The Beatles? I don't know right now. I still believe my boyhood stories there, if I'm honest. Satellites, the holocaust, The Bomb? No way. The Beatles? I lose my perspective maybe...
Tom-Dalpra [December 28, 2013 - 4:36 am]: @Jan Erik Hansen: you're making me hungry. You want onions with that?
Jan Erik Hansen [December 28, 2013 - 11:37 am]: :)
aralsea [December 28, 2013 - 2:39 pm]: @Tom-Dalpra: I'm not saying the Beatles "are fake" but if they are, the job is incredible with so many actors.
Anders-Lindman [December 28, 2013 - 4:49 pm]: Jim Fetzer providing excellent explanations for why the 9/11 WTC footage was NOT all faked: http://fakeologist.com/2013/10/12/obf-tries-fetzer-again/ The claims that all the videos and photos were faked seem very weak indeed. Isn't it fair to say that only the planes were faked at the WTC?
Anders-Lindman [December 28, 2013 - 5:15 pm]: Ha! You guys only PRETEND to believe all the footage at WTC is faked, right? ;) I don
ab [December 28, 2013 - 6:06 pm]: @Anders-Lindman: I am not sure why you're trying to de-rail those that see the 9/11 event for what it is: a completely scripted psyOp with a completely fabricated video story. Why do you persist? I am about to post a youtube video on Simon's excellent explanation of the WTC magic trick.
Anders-Lindman [December 28, 2013 - 6:16 pm]: @ab: Sure, it was a total psyOp, but the evidence for that all the WTC footage was fake is really weak. I took a look at the falling man, and even that is doubtful that it's fakery: http://www.cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=501 (I think it's a dummy thrown out from the WTC tower.) The facade looks strange I admit, but isn't that the other tower in the background?
ab [December 28, 2013 - 6:27 pm]: @Anders-Lindman: falsus in unum, falsus in omnibus. I won't argue with minor points.
columjaddica [December 28, 2013 - 6:45 pm]: Listening to the newer Fetzer show now. They're talking about the bali bombing being a micronuke. Does that make *any* sense? It was a bombing in a crowded place, why does it have to be a nuke?
columjaddica [December 28, 2013 - 7:13 pm]: The show I'm listening to is with "franklyspeaking". Later on he gives cluesforum credit for the "falling man" post. I really don't know much about Bali though, but micro-nuke? I don't buy that for 9/11 or Bali, it just doesn't make any sense to me. Looking at some of the most famous pictures from Bali, it looks like a movie production in the same style that we see all the time.
ab [December 28, 2013 - 7:16 pm]: @columjaddica: mini nukes exist like nukes do: they don't. they should be renamed AFBs - absolute fear bombs. a magic power akin to the devil: he's everywhere and watching you, waiting to blow you up.
columjaddica [December 28, 2013 - 7:18 pm]: I'm undecided on lots of things now, nuked being one. I suppose I've never seen any proof of them. Even if they did exist they don't make sense to use in a psyop, and 9/11 IS a psyop
ab [December 28, 2013 - 7:20 pm]: nukes are a psyOp.
columjaddica [December 28, 2013 - 7:22 pm]: Fetzer and Don Fox were talking about the NIST (or some agency) data of the contamination of the soil with isotopes. REALLY? That's a piece of paper. That's not evidence coming from anybody.
columjaddica [December 28, 2013 - 7:22 pm]: Especially not coming from the US federal government
khammad [December 28, 2013 - 7:23 pm]: About FranklySpeaking on Fetzer: What mind-numbing double speak. "Go to the center of the center of the event" "You have to look at every microsecond of footage of the micronukes". I can only conclude FranklySpeaking is here to frankly confuse us.
Rollo [December 28, 2013 - 7:25 pm]: He's an insult to Logic
Rollo [December 28, 2013 - 7:27 pm]: oops wrong window
ab [December 28, 2013 - 7:31 pm]: @khammad: I am listening to it now. He gives us everything, with the nukes as the turd in the punchbowl. http://www.myactsofsedition.com/wp-content/uploads/turd-in-the-punchbowl.jpg
columjaddica [December 28, 2013 - 7:46 pm]: Memoryholeblog has a newer Fetzer episode up, 12/27. With James Tracy and Sofia Smallstorm. On Sandy Hook http://memoryholeblog.com/2013/12/28/the-real-deal-for-december-27-2013/
aralsea [December 28, 2013 - 7:47 pm]: @columjaddica: I like Fetzers Sandy Hook shows
Rollo [December 28, 2013 - 7:48 pm]: Gday Ab ...Nice work with the Matt Lauer "telling you not to believe" Video....Did you produce that from scratch?...nice work
columjaddica [December 28, 2013 - 7:48 pm]: I still haven't checked out much of the new stuff out there on Sandy Hook. I spent an insane amount of time researching it until june or july or so. I'm suspicious of everybody who has videos or writes about it on a regular basis, but I generally like James Tracy on it. Smallstorm I haven't given enough time to yet
aralsea [December 28, 2013 - 7:50 pm]: Smallstorm is very good on SH. Fetzer will claim its all fake for SH.
columjaddica [December 28, 2013 - 7:50 pm]: I only just started listening to Fetzer, I turned it off the first few times (it was about 9/11). Today I've listened to a few shows, not too impressed yet. Haven't heard him on Sandy Hook but damn everybody in the altmedia sure took their time to even talk about it
columjaddica [December 28, 2013 - 7:50 pm]: I strongly believe that it's all fake, period
columjaddica [December 28, 2013 - 7:51 pm]: Not saying they might not have had to clean up some people later, to keep people quiet, but sandy hook was a non-event IRL
columjaddica [December 28, 2013 - 7:51 pm]: The whole town is a potemkin village
aralsea [December 28, 2013 - 7:52 pm]: Fetzer has so many memorized talking points [especially on JFK] that some shows are too repetitive. His SH and Bostonshows are better since they are fresher material to chew on, he's not jaded.
Rollo [December 28, 2013 - 7:53 pm]: Fake?... F.A.K.E --->That word is being eroded/ messed with/ muddied by design
aralsea [December 28, 2013 - 7:53 pm]: Also the Fetzer Moon hoax and John Lennon and Dean Six [flouride poisoning victim] shows are worth hearing.
columjaddica [December 28, 2013 - 7:53 pm]: I didn't mean to muddy it, I mean it was a TV show, and all they had to do that day was restrict access to the area. Not difficult to do in Newtown/Sandy Hook
aralsea [December 28, 2013 - 7:54 pm]: Keith Richards lives not too far from Sandy Hook.
columjaddica [December 28, 2013 - 7:55 pm]: A lot of famous/importantish people live near there. It's commute distance to NYC. The author of the Hunger Games claims to live in Sandy Hook. That one gets the minds of young people working.
columjaddica [December 28, 2013 - 7:56 pm]: Government having children killing children for entertainment
columjaddica [December 28, 2013 - 7:56 pm]: and as punishment
Rollo [December 28, 2013 - 7:57 pm]: "Keith Richards lives not too far from Sandy Hook." are you saying he may have been the shooter :)
Rollo [December 28, 2013 - 7:58 pm]: he always seems to shoot straight on the frett board
columjaddica [December 28, 2013 - 8:00 pm]: Yes, the radio waves made Keith go crazy. Not kidding, there is a theory going around spread by an internet commenter that claims to be from Sandy Hook (c_o_p_s_ne), he claims that Sandy hook has a special case of "the hum", and that caused Adam to go bonkers and shoot the school. He's been spamming stuff for awhile and has reached out to several SH researchers. I'm seeing his stuff around now
aralsea [December 28, 2013 - 8:00 pm]: @Rollo: Maybe a member of the local alleged coven? :D He's the only Stone who lives in the US more that the others. Roger Waters [pink floyd] lives on Long Island more than in UK.
columjaddica [December 28, 2013 - 8:00 pm]: I'm always amazed how the most out-there theories get so much traction, shills or idiots?
aralsea [December 28, 2013 - 8:01 pm]: Another Sandy Hook http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Hook,_Kentucky
columjaddica [December 28, 2013 - 8:01 pm]: Also, Sandy Hook NJ. Think "superstorm sandy"
Rollo [December 28, 2013 - 8:03 pm]: Looking forward to OBF today....Simons Theory is the only one that isn't out there, the only theory that makes sense
aralsea [December 28, 2013 - 8:04 pm]: @Rollo: Yes OBF AKA 1bornfree
aralsea [December 28, 2013 - 8:06 pm]: @columjaddica: Sandy Hurricane-, Sandy Concert 121212 - Sandy Hook- Sandy Island which does NOT exist http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Island,_New_Caledonia
khammad [December 28, 2013 - 8:10 pm]: I have been trying to decide what Fetzer is all about. Could it be he is merely egotistical? He clings onto an idea and can't let go? For if he is a shill, who is his handler?
aralsea [December 28, 2013 - 8:13 pm]: If he is, he is a pro. Is he ex-military remember. Maybe Psyops division?
aralsea [December 28, 2013 - 8:15 pm]: This record was released Nov 22, 1963. I found 9-11 on this album label. Two "1"s and 1206 1+2+0+6 = 9 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/fd/With_the_beatles_side_1.JPG
Rollo [December 28, 2013 - 8:18 pm]: Regarding that Fetzer and Don Knox audio..........Simon Suggests the top down tower collapses are video fakery , Fetzers logical response to that suggestion is to laugh / dismiss
khammad [December 28, 2013 - 8:21 pm]: Fetzer uses screwy logic. "if the building was brought down by conventional explosives, then why fake the video?" I wonder what kind of faulty logic this is called?
UNreal [December 28, 2013 - 8:22 pm]: Is the live stream still scheduled for tonight ?
Rollo [December 28, 2013 - 8:26 pm]: I want to hear OBF's personal feelings with regard to Fetzer, Does he truely believe as I do that Fetzer is a Hologram full of Hollowshit
columjaddica [December 28, 2013 - 8:27 pm]: @khammad, would it be non-sequitur, "it does not follow"? Faking the video doesn't have anything to do with using conventional explosives, it has to do with controlling a thousand other factors
ab [December 28, 2013 - 8:29 pm]: @Rollo: yes from scratch
Rollo [December 28, 2013 - 8:30 pm]: well done ab...
ab [December 28, 2013 - 8:30 pm]: get your OBF questions ready people. Call in after the first hour
ab [December 28, 2013 - 8:30 pm]: @Rollo: thanks it was minor video but was necessary once I heard the audio
Rollo [December 28, 2013 - 8:33 pm]: Ive gotta test my new Mic....Im callin....cant think of a better way of testing my new mic than getting to stick the boot into fetzer
Jan Erik Hansen [December 28, 2013 - 8:35 pm]: The Knights of the Holy Sepulchre Jesuits and Islam (pt.2) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBX70hUL358&list=PLsMKnscQ_IXWRzTL-g2XcpS1w6kCuMB2u
ab [December 28, 2013 - 8:44 pm]: http://fakeologist.com/2013/12/27/ep82obf-on-the-fetzer-thread/
ab [December 28, 2013 - 8:46 pm]: obf is in the house
khammad [December 28, 2013 - 8:47 pm]: @JanErik: You mention Jesuit quite often. Is there a specific connection between Jesuit and Rockefellers? How can one use evidence to show connections? It just seems all so speculative.
Rollo [December 28, 2013 - 8:47 pm]: is he fat and sweaty like Elvis?
Jan Erik Hansen [December 28, 2013 - 8:48 pm]: Yes if U concider who own that order it is !
khammad [December 28, 2013 - 8:49 pm]: @Jan Erik Hansen: Where can I read up on this?
Jan Erik Hansen [December 28, 2013 - 8:49 pm]: http://www.rockefellerfoundation.org/bellagio-center
Jan Erik Hansen [December 28, 2013 - 8:50 pm]: You cant.
Rollo [December 28, 2013 - 8:50 pm]: Go Jan...giving Ab the Argument derail list....you'll turn him into monster
Jan Erik Hansen [December 28, 2013 - 8:50 pm]: One need to conect a few dots to se the conection.
columjaddica [December 28, 2013 - 8:51 pm]: Rockefeller certainly has a lot to do with the recent disaster campaign. It's all about the
columjaddica [December 28, 2013 - 8:51 pm]: Err, I always hit enter accidentally. Meant it's all about the "resiliency"
khammad [December 28, 2013 - 8:54 pm]: Remember that tv show, Life Styles of the Rich and Famous? The truly rich were never on it. They don't want publicity. But we can find them by way of property ownership.
Jan Erik Hansen [December 28, 2013 - 8:54 pm]: Here is a clue: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-LSs2lbMkKS8/UUOkhVkPMVI/AAAAAAAAAcM/TuwskcgAC3Q/s1600/ORDO_FRATRVM_MINORVM.JPG
Jan Erik Hansen [December 28, 2013 - 8:56 pm]: Real wealth is hiden in tax exempt privatly owned foundations: so they are not on the Forbes list.
ab [December 28, 2013 - 8:56 pm]: https://soundcloud.com/onebornfree
khammad [December 28, 2013 - 8:57 pm]: I am sure a look at the board of trustees would be revealing. I guess I am searching for some sort of ownership/board of trustees that pertain to the Jesuits
Rollo [December 28, 2013 - 8:58 pm]: Life Styles of the Rich and Famous...there's RICH and theres http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIQH28INcdw
Jan Erik Hansen [December 28, 2013 - 8:59 pm]: http://translate.google.com/translate?depth=1&hl=en&rurl=translate.google.com&tl=en&u=http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gherardo_Bueri
Jan Erik Hansen [December 28, 2013 - 8:59 pm]: Yes i think so.
Typoerror [December 28, 2013 - 9:01 pm]: hello,Phakerz. Signed in and logged on a Fetzer refugee here ,krz is the name typoerror the handle.
aralsea [December 28, 2013 - 9:02 pm]: @khammad: Robin Leach or robbin leech
Jan Erik Hansen [December 28, 2013 - 9:03 pm]: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWmgvg-V5z4&list=PLsMKnscQ_IXWRzTL-g2XcpS1w6kCuMB2u
Typoerror [December 28, 2013 - 9:03 pm]: lookin forward to this evenings show.have been catching up with some of the fakeologist back catalogue over the krimlbel holidays. Good stuff.
khammad [December 28, 2013 - 9:06 pm]: @aralsea: hahaha, perfect.
Anders-Lindman [December 28, 2013 - 9:06 pm]: 9/11 was NOT a government conspiracy
ab [December 28, 2013 - 9:06 pm]: @Typoerror: ok great
khammad [December 28, 2013 - 9:07 pm]: @Jan Erik Hansen: Thanks, thats good stuff.
Typoerror [December 28, 2013 - 9:08 pm]: Hi ab.will the feed for the live event be on The S1.fakeologist main player? guess so. no more dumb questions for a while.
Rollo [December 28, 2013 - 9:09 pm]: cmon thru loud and clear...over the rainbow
Typoerror [December 28, 2013 - 9:10 pm]: lo.this is about the IRS.
ab [December 28, 2013 - 9:10 pm]: @Typoerror: yes
Banazir Galbasi [December 28, 2013 - 9:10 pm]: good evening all
Rollo [December 28, 2013 - 9:11 pm]: Hey Ban ...enjoyed the Ban & Dusty show....
Typoerror [December 28, 2013 - 9:12 pm]: Morning.
Jacqueline [December 28, 2013 - 9:12 pm]: Afternoon all
Typoerror [December 28, 2013 - 9:12 pm]: great clip.
Typoerror [December 28, 2013 - 9:13 pm]: "where are you getting this infomation?"
Banazir Galbasi [December 28, 2013 - 9:14 pm]: Thanks Rollo.:D Give it time, we'll work the bugs out. I've got a working mic now too. (Cheers Dusty!)
Dustyash [December 28, 2013 - 9:14 pm]: hey Rollo lots of people on here or should I say in Elite terms lots of "Persons" on here new speak terms lol welcome everybody should be good and hi to every fakeologist out there discovered and undiscovered
Dustyash [December 28, 2013 - 9:15 pm]: hey Banazir nice to see you on this weekend live
Rollo [December 28, 2013 - 9:15 pm]: nice
Jan Erik Hansen [December 28, 2013 - 9:15 pm]: :)
ArmunnRigh [December 28, 2013 - 9:16 pm]: Everybody Nose
Dustyash [December 28, 2013 - 9:16 pm]: hey Jan
Jacqueline [December 28, 2013 - 9:16 pm]: @Jan Erik Hansen and Armunn - thoroughly enjoyed the episode on Propaganda - have listened to the show 3 times and shared with like minded friends this weekend - thankyou so much for sharing pdf and discussion
Dustyash [December 28, 2013 - 9:16 pm]: follow your nose?
Rollo [December 28, 2013 - 9:16 pm]: Who Nose?
Dustyash [December 28, 2013 - 9:17 pm]: I loved it as well kudos on that one
Jan Erik Hansen [December 28, 2013 - 9:17 pm]: Thnx glad U liked it !
Jan Erik Hansen [December 28, 2013 - 9:18 pm]: Hey DUSTY
Rollo [December 28, 2013 - 9:18 pm]: Everybody Nose
Jan Erik Hansen [December 28, 2013 - 9:19 pm]: Yo ROLLO
ArmunnRigh [December 28, 2013 - 9:19 pm]: @Jacqueline: Thanks! ;) We may have another show with the same format sometime soon (depending on Ab, of course). This time a book on culture industry provided again by Jan Erik.
Dustyash [December 28, 2013 - 9:20 pm]: We are living the world order now it has been here for years and years just drop the new in new world order it is not new at all we are in it now
Dustyash [December 28, 2013 - 9:21 pm]: looking forward to it
Dustyash [December 28, 2013 - 9:23 pm]: to the other book show
columjaddica [December 28, 2013 - 9:54 pm]: test
Anders-Lindman [December 28, 2013 - 9:54 pm]: testing B)
columjaddica [December 28, 2013 - 9:54 pm]: I see ya
Anders-Lindman [December 28, 2013 - 9:55 pm]: mininukes are a hoax!!!
khammad [December 28, 2013 - 9:56 pm]: test
Jan Erik Hansen [December 28, 2013 - 9:56 pm]: :idea:
columjaddica [December 28, 2013 - 9:57 pm]: Sir, the goggles, they do nothing 8)
Rollo [December 28, 2013 - 9:58 pm]: Did Simon go on the Fetzer show?....Send me the link
ab [December 28, 2013 - 9:58 pm]: backup chat: http://fakeologist.chatango.com/
ab [December 28, 2013 - 9:58 pm]: bookmark it
Dustyash [December 28, 2013 - 9:59 pm]: Weird hiccup on the site but it is nice to be back
Banazir Galbasi [December 28, 2013 - 9:59 pm]: test test
Rollo [December 28, 2013 - 9:59 pm]: 123
ArmunnRigh [December 28, 2013 - 9:59 pm]: yes, back up
Dustyash [December 28, 2013 - 10:00 pm]: Room 237 OHHHHH scary
Dustyash [December 28, 2013 - 10:00 pm]: lol
ArmunnRigh [December 28, 2013 - 10:00 pm]: @Dustyash: Room 237 is a load of crap
Rollo [December 28, 2013 - 10:01 pm]: Moon Room
Dustyash [December 28, 2013 - 10:01 pm]: right it was all just a movie
Dustyash [December 28, 2013 - 10:01 pm]: but interesting never the less
khammad [December 28, 2013 - 10:01 pm]: Perhaps one of Fetzers main jobs is to continue the Nuclear Psyops?
Rollo [December 28, 2013 - 10:01 pm]: chatting about Mini Nukes makes fools of us all...
Rollo [December 28, 2013 - 10:02 pm]: oh dear
Typoerror [December 28, 2013 - 10:03 pm]: i always suspected A jones.If i recall A jones was introduced along with other "extremistz" to the great unwashed of GB/ UK by jon Ronson just in time for 9\11. Cant recall exactly when it aired here but am sure it was only a matter of months.
columjaddica [December 28, 2013 - 10:03 pm]: It's so rediculous. They were going on about a micro nuke at the Bali bombing too. A small ball of heat that rose up and when it got to the ground it exploded! WOW
ArmunnRigh [December 28, 2013 - 10:04 pm]: nanonuke
columjaddica [December 28, 2013 - 10:04 pm]: Buried underneath or something. Or at least that's what I caught, my ears were a bit disconnected from the brain after awhile
Typoerror [December 28, 2013 - 10:04 pm]: wiki says secret rulers.... aired in april 2001.Just in time.
httpsjoeyz.myopenid.com [December 28, 2013 - 10:04 pm]: This (mini-nukes) would be known as "a burden of proof fallacy"
on behalf of the Logic teacher "Dr. Fatzer."
Rollo [December 28, 2013 - 10:05 pm]: Thrempto 10^-2 Nuke....Ive had worse Mozzie bites
Typoerror [December 28, 2013 - 10:06 pm]: i've always liked the idea of mini-nukes. one laptop every 10 floors.
Anders-Lindman [December 28, 2013 - 10:06 pm]: mininukes are almost as horrible theory as Judy Wood's particle bean from outer space
Typoerror [December 28, 2013 - 10:06 pm]: same guy to place/plant them.
Anders-Lindman [December 28, 2013 - 10:06 pm]: *beam
Typoerror [December 28, 2013 - 10:07 pm]: only take half an hour.
Rollo [December 28, 2013 - 10:07 pm]: the big picture Nuke argument is....as Jan explained ------> where does the big fireball come from??????.....it Incendiary.....ie petrol bomb
ArmunnRigh [December 28, 2013 - 10:08 pm]: Someone going through the bad logic: http://cdn.arwrath.com/2/224205.gif
columjaddica [December 28, 2013 - 10:08 pm]: The WTC was demolished with an ion beam that transported a nano-nuke using project bluebeam technology. The NIST reports confirm the presence of nano-flake red particulate containing isotopes, this can only mean one thing...
Jan Erik Hansen [December 28, 2013 - 10:08 pm]: :D
Banazir Galbasi [December 28, 2013 - 10:09 pm]: I think Fetzer gets money on the side for what he does not say.
Dustyash [December 28, 2013 - 10:09 pm]: for sure
Anders-Lindman [December 28, 2013 - 10:10 pm]: Top secret weapon: http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/838b21465197.jpg
Typoerror [December 28, 2013 - 10:11 pm]: I asked the iching whether fetz was for real. it was a resounding yes.
Typoerror [December 28, 2013 - 10:12 pm]: i asked whether the same could be said the same for ObF.
Typoerror [December 28, 2013 - 10:14 pm]: it seems to suggest that OBF is a Fetz asset.
Typoerror [December 28, 2013 - 10:16 pm]: but possibly only in the sense that he's been whipping thingz up over at the real deal.
khammad [December 28, 2013 - 10:16 pm]: I was just checking how nuclear weapons fire. http://chr.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Teller-Ulam_device_firing_sequence.png
columjaddica [December 28, 2013 - 10:17 pm]: At times I enjoy trolling. Not at places I care about but at forums that discuss these things dishonestly
Rollo [December 28, 2013 - 10:18 pm]: Where is OBF going with this?...........
khammad [December 28, 2013 - 10:18 pm]: basically, a radioactive bullet hits a radioactive core, melts some foam, plasma is made, creates x-rays, thenx-rays bounce around and makes an explosion
ab [December 28, 2013 - 10:18 pm]: we will take calls now...get in early
khammad [December 28, 2013 - 10:20 pm]: Either everyone has nukes because they are so simple, or no one does.
Typoerror [December 28, 2013 - 10:21 pm]: polystyrene foam is necessary.Who'd have thunk it
khammad [December 28, 2013 - 10:21 pm]: They should make those coolers illegal
columjaddica [December 28, 2013 - 10:21 pm]: Psyop mountain could be hard to see. I live in the mountains and they don't look that big from inside of them.
Dustyash [December 28, 2013 - 10:22 pm]: Fetzer is a joke period
Jan Erik Hansen [December 28, 2013 - 10:22 pm]: Look at these pictures of plutonium : https://www.google.no/search?q=plutonium&client=opera&hs=gY8&channel=suggest&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=LZW_UvrSA8HoywP2uYDQAg&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ&biw=673&bih=360
Typoerror [December 28, 2013 - 10:23 pm]: lol.a band called xray specs had a singer named poly strene. The day the world turned day glo.
ArmunnRigh [December 28, 2013 - 10:23 pm]: I applaud Rollo tonight
Banazir Galbasi [December 28, 2013 - 10:23 pm]: How can Fetzer possibly be in his position if he's not controlled?
khammad [December 28, 2013 - 10:23 pm]: There is a whole lot of explosive material, non-radioactive, in a nuke. It seems what science is saying is a nuke, is just a dirty bomb.
ArmunnRigh [December 28, 2013 - 10:23 pm]: :D
Dustyash [December 28, 2013 - 10:23 pm]: yes yes
columjaddica [December 28, 2013 - 10:23 pm]: "For nearly 20 years, the secret code to authorize launching U.S. nuclear missiles, and starting World War III, was... 00000000"
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2515598/Launch-code-US-nuclear-weapons-easy-00000000.html
columjaddica [December 28, 2013 - 10:24 pm]: Plutonium looks like steel right out of the furnace
khammad [December 28, 2013 - 10:25 pm]: Fetzer and the Simpsons cartoon, what do they both have in common?
Jan Erik Hansen [December 28, 2013 - 10:25 pm]: Its BUNK i think.
khammad [December 28, 2013 - 10:25 pm]: They both support the nuke hoax
ab [December 28, 2013 - 10:26 pm]: @Jan Erik Hansen: it's symbol is PU. as in excrement
ArmunnRigh [December 28, 2013 - 10:26 pm]: There's no point in debating anything with Fetzer. A waste of time.
Dustyash [December 28, 2013 - 10:26 pm]: Yes your right Armunn it goes no where
Jan Erik Hansen [December 28, 2013 - 10:27 pm]: Yes its a big JOKE and they do like to ritualy MOCK the lower clases !
Dustyash [December 28, 2013 - 10:28 pm]: They are all there to distract that is the objective just keep the gate protected
Dustyash [December 28, 2013 - 10:29 pm]: yes they are paid
Jan Erik Hansen [December 28, 2013 - 10:30 pm]: Its caled inteligence asets i think !
columjaddica [December 28, 2013 - 10:31 pm]: "Muddying the waters". It's probably the most effective tactic, but I also notice that a shill can get a lot of mileage from constantly asking people to explain square-one over and over again. I don't know what that tactic would be called, I call it "head against brick wall". They just never do any research themselves and ask you to explain it over and over again
Dustyash [December 28, 2013 - 10:32 pm]: Rollo sounds good like listening to some good old Bon Scott early AC/DC rock n roll
Jan Erik Hansen [December 28, 2013 - 10:32 pm]: YES spot on columjaddica
Jan Erik Hansen [December 28, 2013 - 10:32 pm]: God aften Simon :-D
ArmunnRigh [December 28, 2013 - 10:32 pm]: @Dustyash: LOL
ArmunnRigh [December 28, 2013 - 10:33 pm]: @Dustyash: If you want blood... YOU GOT IT!
Dustyash [December 28, 2013 - 10:33 pm]: you got it Amen Armunn
Banazir Galbasi [December 28, 2013 - 10:36 pm]: Go Rollo!
ArmunnRigh [December 28, 2013 - 10:36 pm]: I'm MAD AS HELL and I CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE !!!
Typoerror [December 28, 2013 - 10:37 pm]: Im Dumbfounded.
columjaddica [December 28, 2013 - 10:37 pm]: OBF: Osama Bin Fighting
ArmunnRigh [December 28, 2013 - 10:39 pm]: Forget about arresting anyone
Banazir Galbasi [December 28, 2013 - 10:39 pm]: Even if digital rendering wasn't up to snuff in 2001, why couldn't they use analog means? Hollywood has many tools.
Anders-Lindman [December 28, 2013 - 10:39 pm]: Holograms? Yeah, right. Looks pretty jumpy for a hologram: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoE8Uz2ia3M
khammad [December 28, 2013 - 10:41 pm]: Holograms need at least 3 mirrors. Where were the mirrors on 911?
columjaddica [December 28, 2013 - 10:42 pm]: They could have fabricated 9/11 video in the 70's probably. It would have been painstaking using some one-off rotoscoping technology. They could have even included the deathstar from the pic earlier
Anders-Lindman [December 28, 2013 - 10:43 pm]: The live footage of the second impact shows a very crude 2D graphics plane silhouette. Super easy to fake even in 2001.
columjaddica [December 28, 2013 - 10:44 pm]: Crude 2D graphics, like sprites in mario
Banazir Galbasi [December 28, 2013 - 10:44 pm]: Fetzer endorses Oliver Stones JFK as the most authentic movie about the man.
Typoerror [December 28, 2013 - 10:45 pm]: Fetz :favorite:'z Jesse Ventura too.
Anders-Lindman [December 28, 2013 - 10:46 pm]: @columjaddica: yup, like: http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lj0wls8poh1qb9bjho1_400.gif
columjaddica [December 28, 2013 - 10:47 pm]: I hate when I try to break these subjects and they respond "You can't believe anything on the internet", coming from people that always believe everything on TV. They just dont understand, they looked something up once (if even) and got some insane rabbit hole. They don't understand that you have to weigh all things and come to your own decision. Frustrating
httpsjoeyz.myopenid.com [December 28, 2013 - 10:48 pm]: Need a laugh, check this out.... http://nypost.com/cover/
columjaddica [December 28, 2013 - 10:49 pm]: @anders: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEW8F32qoZc @1:40
farcevalue [December 28, 2013 - 10:51 pm]: Maria whatserface that emerged from the rubble with a broken leg and then went on a book tour...
httpsjoeyz.myopenid.com [December 28, 2013 - 10:52 pm]: Stay in the towers = "Duck & cover!"
Anders-Lindman [December 28, 2013 - 10:53 pm]: when I post about no 9/11 victims on forums people accuse me of being disrespectful Without even checking my claims!
farcevalue [December 28, 2013 - 10:53 pm]: Ad hominem attacks are a concession in an argument.
columjaddica [December 28, 2013 - 10:54 pm]: Simon Shack and kikeologist.com
ab [December 28, 2013 - 10:55 pm]: @knagjak: do you have a question, otherwise your phone is noisy
columjaddica [December 28, 2013 - 10:56 pm]: I meant that as a joke, mocking the kind of language they use
farcevalue [December 28, 2013 - 10:57 pm]: Keeping two myths alive: TV news is objective and nukes are real.
khammad [December 28, 2013 - 10:58 pm]: Good scientific inquiry REQUIRES us to change our minds when data suggests it. Doesn't this just prove Fetzer is not researching properly? Good on ya Simon.
ab [December 28, 2013 - 10:59 pm]: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1h-oHFx4GMQ
Anders-Lindman [December 28, 2013 - 10:59 pm]: @farcevalue: yes, ad hominem. On the Alex Jones forum it was even worse and I got banned after about one day! lol (although it was about another topic)
Jan Erik Hansen [December 28, 2013 - 11:00 pm]: farcevalue thats spot on !
ab [December 28, 2013 - 11:00 pm]: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmi8c7e4Gqc
ab [December 28, 2013 - 11:04 pm]: smoke machine: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQF8hsitxvY
ArmunnRigh [December 28, 2013 - 11:05 pm]: Or they made sure every smoker on the WTC complex was outside having a cigarrette break :D
Anders-Lindman [December 28, 2013 - 11:05 pm]: talk about passive smoking
columjaddica [December 28, 2013 - 11:07 pm]: Weird, I played the video and it synced with the audio from your stream, very close
knagjak [December 28, 2013 - 11:07 pm]: Heard that too
farcevalue [December 28, 2013 - 11:07 pm]: This one is overlaid on the Pentagon - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39IwxayVeIw
ab [December 28, 2013 - 11:07 pm]: @knagjak: did you want to call in and ask a question? otherwise your phone was noisy and I had to cut you off
columjaddica [December 28, 2013 - 11:08 pm]: We all get on different delays on the stream too, sometimes I'm 2 minutes behind what's going on the chat. That's how flash server works though
knagjak [December 28, 2013 - 11:08 pm]: hey no prob man if I call again it will b a question
Anders-Lindman [December 28, 2013 - 11:09 pm]: @farcevalue: yes, brilliant. At the Pentagon they could easily have used such smoke machine, plus a few gasoline fires. It could even be that there were no hole in the building!
Banazir Galbasi [December 28, 2013 - 11:10 pm]: To play devil's advocate ask Simon how he currently stands on Brian S. Stavely.
columjaddica [December 28, 2013 - 11:11 pm]: Everybody from the weather man on up has a clue wht's going on. The weather man works with chroma-keying every day, and he can see what's going on
farcevalue [December 28, 2013 - 11:11 pm]: Who will arrest them? The entire apparatus of the state is in place to maintain the status quo.
knagjak [December 28, 2013 - 11:11 pm]: Lol
ArmunnRigh [December 28, 2013 - 11:14 pm]: No, the TV people do not know who are the top people, they only know their handlers.
Videre Licet [December 28, 2013 - 11:14 pm]: Hey DustyRash
Videre Licet [December 28, 2013 - 11:15 pm]: :D
Anders-Lindman [December 28, 2013 - 11:15 pm]: Kissinger is probably thousands of years old. A pharaoh from Ancient Egypt or something.
knagjak [December 28, 2013 - 11:15 pm]: We know their are questions that need answers and if enough people were to push for that then they will be forced too make a move. We are moving to that
Rollo [December 28, 2013 - 11:15 pm]: My favorite Videre
columjaddica [December 28, 2013 - 11:15 pm]: I actually wrote a photographer that was credited with some very suspect photos from a recent minor industrial disaster. She actually responded to me via email but it didn't go anywhere constructive, she would not provide any pictures bigger than the low resolution photos the original article included. It was fun to actually try to contact somebody credited with the BS but I let it go
Videre Licet [December 28, 2013 - 11:15 pm]: In what forum would you ever question them?>
ArmunnRigh [December 28, 2013 - 11:16 pm]: they want the move and expect it. Careful what we ask for.
Rollo [December 28, 2013 - 11:16 pm]: cmon the call ....... I think all these voices are being done by Markus too :)
khammad [December 28, 2013 - 11:16 pm]: This is an awesome podcast!!! Agreed.
farcevalue [December 28, 2013 - 11:17 pm]: It's a little man behind a curtain.
Videre Licet [December 28, 2013 - 11:17 pm]: Great idea Jan-E if their was a media that served the people
Videre Licet [December 28, 2013 - 11:17 pm]: tired here... if there was a media that served the people
khammad [December 28, 2013 - 11:17 pm]: @Rollo: think about this: Markus used several different login names.
Anders-Lindman [December 28, 2013 - 11:18 pm]: Kissinger controls the whole world from his Nazi bunker. Just kidding!
knagjak [December 28, 2013 - 11:18 pm]: Yes but we must be aware of what we face when we attempt to probably heavily disrupt the system. o_O
Videre Licet [December 28, 2013 - 11:18 pm]: @khammad: hmmm thought the same
ArmunnRigh [December 28, 2013 - 11:19 pm]: AMUN RA????!!!
ArmunnRigh [December 28, 2013 - 11:19 pm]: 8o
Jan Erik Hansen [December 28, 2013 - 11:19 pm]: Media is the most important part of the volentary serviitude system they have !
Anders-Lindman [December 28, 2013 - 11:20 pm]: Amen Ra
columjaddica [December 28, 2013 - 11:20 pm]: There are a lot of people out there, especially after the last year. The sites that attract the most people are still completely controlled and somebody can get stuck on those sites for a decade, I know.
Videre Licet [December 28, 2013 - 11:20 pm]: @ArmunnRigh: was just going to say that ... love his accent
ArmunnRigh [December 28, 2013 - 11:21 pm]: @Videre Licet: You will all bow to the LARD
ArmunnRigh [December 28, 2013 - 11:21 pm]: Praise the LARD
columjaddica [December 28, 2013 - 11:22 pm]: In some of the threads OBF talked about, fetzer completely missed the point in a way that had to be intentional
ab [December 28, 2013 - 11:22 pm]: http://onebornfrees911researchreview.blogspot.com/2013/11/911-scams-professor-jim-first-blush.html
khammad [December 28, 2013 - 11:22 pm]: Isnt Veterans Today is a disinfo site?
khammad [December 28, 2013 - 11:23 pm]: Like Rense? Like Russia Today?
farcevalue [December 28, 2013 - 11:23 pm]: The Don Fox episode is totally confirms commitment to a dogmatic agenda (likely by someone who is paid to disperse it).
Jan Erik Hansen [December 28, 2013 - 11:24 pm]: a site with agitators whos job it is to stir up HATE
Jan Erik Hansen [December 28, 2013 - 11:24 pm]: YES !
farcevalue [December 28, 2013 - 11:26 pm]: If there is more than one actual supportive poster on the real.deal forum, which I doubt, I cannot imagine how they can take the silly ad hominems and such seriously. The only authentic comments are from the real skeptics.
Anders-Lindman [December 28, 2013 - 11:26 pm]: surprisingly few "truthers" look into no planes. Mind-controlled sheeple!!!
khammad [December 28, 2013 - 11:26 pm]: By the way Simon, you are FAR cuter than Ace Baker.
Banazir Galbasi [December 28, 2013 - 11:27 pm]: That suicide wAS Before his movie came out!
farcevalue [December 28, 2013 - 11:27 pm]: The word sheeple always make me feel sad.
Banazir Galbasi [December 28, 2013 - 11:28 pm]: Does Shitizen make you feel better?
Anders-Lindman [December 28, 2013 - 11:28 pm]: Ace Baker's mininuke info is almost blatantly obvious disinfo it seems to me.
farcevalue [December 28, 2013 - 11:28 pm]: @Banazir Galbasi: :)
columjaddica [December 28, 2013 - 11:29 pm]: I used to follow Bollyn, and his stuff is the same thing, friendships gone violent, long histories between personalities
Typoerror [December 28, 2013 - 11:32 pm]: And where I am yet to be convinced that the footage of the destruction of the Twin Towers is not authentic, as obf and SS both believe. But of course if it were fake, that would affect our reasoning about 9/11.
Fetz
httpsjoeyz.myopenid.com [December 28, 2013 - 11:32 pm]: Fatzer's job is to keep stocking red-herring in first, JFK, now 9/11 pool!!!! This is keep us chasing our collective tails.
ArmunnRigh [December 28, 2013 - 11:34 pm]: Fetzer's job, in my view, is to keep interest in the perceived reality: pick any side, but pick one
Anders-Lindman [December 28, 2013 - 11:38 pm]: gamma radiation is most definitely real (just high frequency light), but alpha and beta radiation? I have my doubts about that.
columjaddica [December 28, 2013 - 11:39 pm]: People are sick, if even from the mental trauma. The whole thing was researched from the beginning, studying the effects of the trauma
columjaddica [December 28, 2013 - 11:40 pm]: That certainly had an impact on people everywhere
columjaddica [December 28, 2013 - 11:40 pm]: Even outside of physical things like asbestos. It did hurt people
khammad [December 28, 2013 - 11:41 pm]: The reason asbestos is bad is because the fibres are barbed. They get stuck in the lungs and scar tissue builds up.
khammad [December 28, 2013 - 11:43 pm]: Yes, an exposion shaped like a rectangle, thats what mininukes do
knagjak [December 28, 2013 - 11:43 pm]: Not to mention all the adverse effects from EMF. Big pharma, FDA approved medication, ego engineering, vaccines, GMO etc, toxicity
elbuggo [December 28, 2013 - 11:44 pm]: Check out junkscience.com for the real story on asbestos. It is basically just another hoax where people want money for being victims. Exception for brown asbestos though.
Jan Erik Hansen [December 28, 2013 - 11:44 pm]: That was funny :) khammad
columjaddica [December 28, 2013 - 11:44 pm]: Ego engineering? Did you mean Eco Engineering? I like the idea of ego-engineering
farcevalue [December 28, 2013 - 11:44 pm]: One of my first exposures to Judy Wood where she sound completely nuts. Host gets exasperated: http://www.petermacshow.com/show-archive/152-dr-judy-wood-pt-2-8312011.html
knagjak [December 28, 2013 - 11:45 pm]: Geo
columjaddica [December 28, 2013 - 11:45 pm]: Ah, I still like the term ego-engineering lol
knagjak [December 28, 2013 - 11:46 pm]: :D
Anders-Lindman [December 28, 2013 - 11:46 pm]: putting two atoms together (fusion) is supposed to generate a lot of energy, and splitting atoms (fission) is ALSO supposed to generate a lot of energy. So suspiciously does not compute.
columjaddica [December 28, 2013 - 11:48 pm]: @anders Haha, I'm gonna ask the scientists over at http://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/ how that works
knagjak [December 28, 2013 - 11:48 pm]: It's funny because throughout cartoons and movies they propose the idea that splitting an "atom" does cause a "Big Bang". Conditioning
Typoerror [December 28, 2013 - 11:48 pm]: Woods was finally exposed/ receved the kiss of death as far as any credibility went,IMO when touted around by Crazy dicky Hoagland.
Anders-Lindman [December 28, 2013 - 11:49 pm]: @columjaddica: They will probably give some BS about fusion being about low atomic numbers and fission about high atomic numbers.
farcevalue [December 28, 2013 - 11:50 pm]: The NSA is trolls, the data collection is a front.
columjaddica [December 28, 2013 - 11:51 pm]: http://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/1tx8il/how_can_you_gain_energy_from_fission_of_atoms_and/ More than likely, knowing reddit, it will just get downvoted to oblivion
khammad [December 28, 2013 - 11:51 pm]: Nasa Trolls, they are very active indeed.
Banazir Galbasi [December 28, 2013 - 11:52 pm]: The Moon people aren't bothered by it.
elbuggo [December 28, 2013 - 11:52 pm]: Holohoax is going to be part of a new secular religion. where that operation will substitute Hell, and where
knagjak [December 28, 2013 - 11:52 pm]: Holocaust hold more glue to their control
Anders-Lindman [December 28, 2013 - 11:53 pm]: @columjaddica: Good one. Prepare to get answers linking to Wickedpedia, as ab calls it.
httpsjoeyz.myopenid.com [December 28, 2013 - 11:53 pm]: NASA brought us "The ground squirrel on Mars" image - nuff said!
elbuggo [December 28, 2013 - 11:53 pm]: ....Hitler will be the new official Devil
knagjak [December 28, 2013 - 11:54 pm]: :warning: prophecies... Lol
columjaddica [December 28, 2013 - 11:54 pm]: Reddit has an interesting "bug" in it's algoritym that has been around for years. Basically, if somebody watches for new posts in a subreddit and votes it down before a new post is posted then it will be banished even if 100 people vote it up after that. So somebody can sit there and gatekeep
Anders-Lindman [December 28, 2013 - 11:57 pm]: The moon has peculiar properties, such as having the exact size to match the size of the sun at eclipses. The moon always facing earth may be due to tidal friction, but maybe not! Are other moons also facing the planets they orbit?
khammad [December 28, 2013 - 11:57 pm]: And rockets need oxygen to burn their fuel
columjaddica [December 28, 2013 - 11:58 pm]: This is the subject that gets me the most. I mean, hard to even consider
ArmunnRigh [December 28, 2013 - 11:58 pm]: And they never came up with nuclear powered rockets now, have they? ;)
khammad [December 28, 2013 - 11:59 pm]: Nuclear power on earth is just a fancy steam engine, if it exists
ArmunnRigh [December 28, 2013 - 11:59 pm]: thus my question :-)
khammad [December 29, 2013 - 12:00 am]: Hahaha, steam engine rockets
columjaddica [December 29, 2013 - 12:00 am]: After reading some sites about concave earth, and glass ceilings, I saw this recent article about a DARPA satellite. See how they say they are "breaking through the glass ceiling". I don't know what to think right now but they seem to be having fun http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2013/12/giant-folding-satellite/
farcevalue [December 29, 2013 - 12:00 am]: From Wiki: One parsec equals about 3.26 light-years.
columjaddica [December 29, 2013 - 12:01 am]: They mention breaking through a glass ceiling twice in that article, lol
columjaddica [December 29, 2013 - 12:01 am]: "The sky is falling"
columjaddica [December 29, 2013 - 12:03 am]: Major league baseball is watching me
ArmunnRigh [December 29, 2013 - 12:03 am]: The homeless in northern Italy are fucked then :D
Anders-Lindman [December 29, 2013 - 12:03 am]: Satellites are definitely real imo. But they claim that the clocks in the satellites are adjusted for Einstein's relativity. That's a total fraud I think. How many people have actual control over those clocks? Very few.
columjaddica [December 29, 2013 - 12:04 am]: I used to work in a place that had an atomic clock. It looked like any other rack mounted network equipment
farcevalue [December 29, 2013 - 12:05 am]: The contradictions are intentional to sow confusion.
ab [December 29, 2013 - 12:05 am]: @Anders-Lindman: tell us why you believe in them
khammad [December 29, 2013 - 12:06 am]: Someone mentioned how all our dishes for satellite tv are pointed at the horizon, not up into the sky.
Anders-Lindman [December 29, 2013 - 12:06 am]: Directing discs will affect the satellite signals. That can hardly be faked. GPS is definitely real and that too is at least very difficult to fake.
ArmunnRigh [December 29, 2013 - 12:06 am]: triangulation
khammad [December 29, 2013 - 12:07 am]: I have yet to see a tv dish pointed up
columjaddica [December 29, 2013 - 12:07 am]: I was enlisted in the military for telecommunications and they never explained satellites in any detail. They explained a lot more about bouncing radio waves off of the ionosphere than they ever did with satellites. I also knew a bunch of hams and they could accomplish very long range communications without satellites
ArmunnRigh [December 29, 2013 - 12:08 am]: Ab: Those are the "higher myths" - http://fakeologist.com/2013/12/19/its-science/#comments
khammad [December 29, 2013 - 12:09 am]: Perhaps our dishes are just pointed to towers
ab [December 29, 2013 - 12:10 am]: @ArmunnRigh: yes true
ArmunnRigh [December 29, 2013 - 12:10 am]: Now they do the "Act-the-Victim" instead of the "Duck-and-Cover"
ab [December 29, 2013 - 12:11 am]: @Anders-Lindman: gps has been exposed on this site long ago, you really need to research before spouting off "truths"
columjaddica [December 29, 2013 - 12:12 am]: It's possible that it wasn't ddos, but that you just had too much traffic. The site can be slow even on off-times
Anders-Lindman [December 29, 2013 - 12:13 am]: @ab: Have you really shown that the GPS used by for example airliners is fake?!
ArmunnRigh [December 29, 2013 - 12:13 am]: @Anders-Lindman: triangulation
columjaddica [December 29, 2013 - 12:14 am]: I learned all about how GPS is supposed to work, and atomic clocks. Related subjects. I can see how it could be a ground based system, for sure. I noticed that it takes a LOT longer the last few years for GPS units to aquire the signal
Anders-Lindman [December 29, 2013 - 12:14 am]: @ArmunnRigh: You mean from ground-based stations? Then what about in the middle of the Pacific Ocean?
ArmunnRigh [December 29, 2013 - 12:14 am]: what about it?
columjaddica [December 29, 2013 - 12:15 am]: Yes, triangulation. They let boy-scout age children track down small aircraft using triangulation with a handheld unit. (Civil air patrol)
Anders-Lindman [December 29, 2013 - 12:15 am]: @ArmunnRigh: Ground-based stations would not be able to reach airliners in the middle of the Pacific Ocean.
farcevalue [December 29, 2013 - 12:15 am]: Ships in remote regions have to get coordinates by e-0mail or fax. It doesn't happen in real time. Supposedly the satellites are still running on Intel P IV CPUs, despite a billion new cell phone subscribers.
ArmunnRigh [December 29, 2013 - 12:17 am]: what makes you think they can't?
khammad [December 29, 2013 - 12:18 am]: My daughter schedules cell phone towers to be built here in the state of washington
farcevalue [December 29, 2013 - 12:18 am]: I researched it recently. There are certain regions that are inaccessible to GPS. That doesn't add up.
khammad [December 29, 2013 - 12:18 am]: I should ask her more about it, like how do the towers work
Anders-Lindman [December 29, 2013 - 12:18 am]: @ArmunnRigh: The frequency they use. To bounce radio waves on the atmosphere much lower frequencies are needed.
columjaddica [December 29, 2013 - 12:19 am]: I got a response for the question about the fission and fusion: http://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/1tx8il/how_can_you_gain_energy_from_fission_of_atoms_and/ceccxkb
ArmunnRigh [December 29, 2013 - 12:20 am]: @farcevalue: those are the regions that are really out of reach of the stations.
farcevalue [December 29, 2013 - 12:21 am]: Isn't the idea behind GPS that the satellites communicate directly with the target device?
ArmunnRigh [December 29, 2013 - 12:21 am]: @Anders-Lindman: they could be bounced off the atmosphere or not, the technology we use everyday is able to do all the marvels associated with satellites
ArmunnRigh [December 29, 2013 - 12:22 am]: @farcevalue: that's the theory yes
Anders-Lindman [December 29, 2013 - 12:22 am]: @columjaddica: What I suspected. Binding energy supposed to magically work in opposite ways depending on the size of the atoms. Does not compute it seems to me. That's like saying that gravity is reversed when a planet becomes large enough, lol.
farcevalue [December 29, 2013 - 12:22 am]: So, there should be no region that is outside of the range of the orbiting satellites.
khammad [December 29, 2013 - 12:23 am]: It seems like the more that question Fetzer, the more exposure alternate theories get.
columjaddica [December 29, 2013 - 12:23 am]: I don't know enough to say, he made a convincing argument from as well as I know. Not saying I believe him, but it makes sense in a way
ArmunnRigh [December 29, 2013 - 12:23 am]: @farcevalue: exactly
columjaddica [December 29, 2013 - 12:23 am]: I don't remember about subatomic particles and whatnot, maybe had a semester or year of chemistry indoctrination in high school where they touched on it
columjaddica [December 29, 2013 - 12:25 am]: It's hard to have solid opinions on everything ;)
Anders-Lindman [December 29, 2013 - 12:25 am]: @columjaddica: As him/her why fusion power plants still are a miserable failure. Ha ha.
khammad [December 29, 2013 - 12:25 am]: It all started with Santa Claus, the lie
columjaddica [December 29, 2013 - 12:26 am]: Yeah, that's a touchy subject n reddit. They are all techno-cornicopianists (eesh, long stupid word). They only get their utopia if technology pulls through
Anders-Lindman [December 29, 2013 - 12:27 am]: *ask
httpsjoeyz.myopenid.com [December 29, 2013 - 12:30 am]: I think we should makeup signs, hire a bus, go down to the TV studios in N.Y.
and march in circles... that should work?! eh?
ArmunnRigh [December 29, 2013 - 12:30 am]: @httpsjoeyz.myopenid.com: LOL
httpsjoeyz.myopenid.com [December 29, 2013 - 12:31 am]: He, He
smj [December 29, 2013 - 12:33 am]: you already won if you are here. now you must assist others in getting here
elbuggo [December 29, 2013 - 12:33 am]: Tell them Abirato, that the 911 operation was basically legal, so no one to sue now..
khammad [December 29, 2013 - 12:35 am]: 911 feels like a big con game. so many are making money off of it and they are not about to give that up. The designers most likely helped put that system in place. To the rest of us, 911 has no meaning, other than laws that get enacted because of it
farcevalue [December 29, 2013 - 12:36 am]: Why should the laws have any meaning to us? It's just words.
ArmunnRigh [December 29, 2013 - 12:36 am]: It's only words... and words are all I have... to take your mind away...
smj [December 29, 2013 - 12:37 am]: the light bros. and the wright bros.
khammad [December 29, 2013 - 12:37 am]: Laws that enacted the TSA, where now I have to take my shoes off
farcevalue [December 29, 2013 - 12:39 am]: I feel you. I asked an agent at Boston Logan once why I had to. He said because of 9/11. I said, you mean those fake videos? Not smart. Nothing happened though, got a pat down. Still sucks.
Anders-Lindman [December 29, 2013 - 12:39 am]: As for satellites, you can actually see them move across the sky with your naked eye on a starry night. Not everything is fake.
smj [December 29, 2013 - 12:39 am]: sometimes it's difficult to shake that Judaic ambition.
khammad [December 29, 2013 - 12:39 am]: I look forward to the patdowns, free massages
khammad [December 29, 2013 - 12:40 am]: @Anders-Lindman: But do you really know the true nature of the satellites? How far up are they? Are they still within our atmosphere?
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 12:41 am]: my favorite guy...
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 12:41 am]: understand him
columjaddica [December 29, 2013 - 12:41 am]: I distrust Markus Allen, he actually belonged to my forum for a short period of time when it only had a few participants. He said he liked our Sandy Hook research
khammad [December 29, 2013 - 12:41 am]: Too late Simon., I already unliked him
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 12:41 am]: takes one to know one
columjaddica [December 29, 2013 - 12:41 am]: I think his style is suspect more than his info
Anders-Lindman [December 29, 2013 - 12:41 am]: @khammad: It depends on if they are geostationary or not.
columjaddica [December 29, 2013 - 12:42 am]: I agree anders, there is something there. When I was a child I learned that I could sit still right in front of a screen on a big screen door and watch everything move from one cell to the next. I was able to identify satellites because they crossed more cells more quickly, but were not airplanes
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 12:42 am]: k - will all the real shills stand up?...
khammad [December 29, 2013 - 12:42 am]: Sure, you would not see geostationary blinking across the sky. But how far away are they really?
columjaddica [December 29, 2013 - 12:43 am]: I don't know what to think about all of the space stuff though. Flying on an airliner by the window, I idon't think I've ever seen stars and that's strange. I try to remember but I flew twice recently and the lack of stars kinda baffles me
khammad [December 29, 2013 - 12:45 am]: @columjaddica: I know the problem, you have to open the shade
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 12:45 am]: @khammad: hahaha
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 12:47 am]: @ab: did you get a new headset? You're sounding like the "moviephone" man
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 12:49 am]: (don't fall off the chair)
columjaddica [December 29, 2013 - 12:49 am]: @khammad: I was joking with somebody once that isn't as far as I am. He joked that the windows on airliners are curved and that it make sit appear as if we are on a round planet and not flat. It was a joke, but I thought it an interesting idea in a way
Anders-Lindman [December 29, 2013 - 12:49 am]: @khammad: They have about the same brightness as stars. Hard to guess how high up that is. The International Space Station can also be seen, but it's much larger than satellites. The ISS is real although unmanned I think.
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 12:50 am]: WAKE UP EVERYONE!!!
Jan Erik Hansen [December 29, 2013 - 12:50 am]: magazine subscription
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 12:50 am]: move to the GROOVE~~~
columjaddica [December 29, 2013 - 12:51 am]: When it comes to heliocentric vs whatever I just sit back now and take information in. This world is bonkers
ArmunnRigh [December 29, 2013 - 12:52 am]: @Anders-Lindman: http://fakeologist.com/forums/topic/not-another-space-anecdote/page/2/#post-6256
Anders-Lindman [December 29, 2013 - 12:52 am]: @columjaddica: No stars even in a black sky? That's weird. Maybe the windows on the planes are kind of fuzzy?
ArmunnRigh [December 29, 2013 - 12:53 am]: This is were we Fake Off
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 12:53 am]: FAKE-it-BABY!
Anders-Lindman [December 29, 2013 - 12:54 am]: @ArmunnRigh: That dog looks more real than the supposed astronauts on the space station, lol.
khammad [December 29, 2013 - 12:54 am]: @ArmunnRigh: hahah, Ya Aman Ra, Fake Off!!!
ArmunnRigh [December 29, 2013 - 12:54 am]: :D
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 12:54 am]: did someone put him on mute?\
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 12:55 am]: I'm Videre... I'm a fake-a-holic
farcevalue [December 29, 2013 - 12:56 am]: @Videre Licet: Keep coming back, it works if you work it!
ArmunnRigh [December 29, 2013 - 12:56 am]: But the world tells me to go fake myself!
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 12:56 am]: workin' it! I LOVE YOU GUYZ!!!
Anders-Lindman [December 29, 2013 - 12:56 am]: Oh for fake's sake!
ArmunnRigh [December 29, 2013 - 12:57 am]: :D :D
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 12:57 am]: :D
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 12:58 am]: AND they have great voices toooo
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 12:58 am]: dicky?
khammad [December 29, 2013 - 12:58 am]: Very good Simon, when I was list to Fetzer and FranklySpeaking, I was curious about how he chose to agree to some CluesForum ideas, but not mention the ones he did not agree with.
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 12:59 am]: shill-haven
farcevalue [December 29, 2013 - 12:59 am]: Nice injection of expanded vocabulary happening here.
ArmunnRigh [December 29, 2013 - 12:59 am]: @khammad: these people are salesmen, of course they'll agree with their customers
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 12:59 am]: @simon: we don't
Anders-Lindman [December 29, 2013 - 1:00 am]: Jim Fetcher! Kissinger: Here, Fido, fetch!
khammad [December 29, 2013 - 1:00 am]: Brian Stavely and his guests did a great job trying to convince Fetzer, yet Fetzer would have nothing to do with it.
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 1:00 am]: we LOVE you Simon!
ArmunnRigh [December 29, 2013 - 1:01 am]: @simonshack: I would say guys like Fetzer will gradually try to ABSORB your work, not deny it all the way
columjaddica [December 29, 2013 - 1:01 am]: Fame is astroturfed on a daily basis through Twitter now. Not saying fetzer benefits from that, buy hype and popularity or followers can be completely faked.
khammad [December 29, 2013 - 1:01 am]: So typo, go and listen to that Brian Stavely podcast. You will see that Fetzer would not be agreeable.
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 1:02 am]: Discussing Fetzer is a waste of our time. Let's talk about something interesting.8o
UNreal [December 29, 2013 - 1:02 am]: this english guy Typo seems like another paid troll,,, ? the tactic is to bore us of ?
ArmunnRigh [December 29, 2013 - 1:02 am]: @Videre Licet: agreed. How's the weather?
columjaddica [December 29, 2013 - 1:03 am]: There are honest people who are responding to people who only have robot followers, I guarantee it
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 1:03 am]: In Phoenix...just got out of the hot tub
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 1:03 am]: chilly but nice
Jan Erik Hansen [December 29, 2013 - 1:03 am]: YES
khammad [December 29, 2013 - 1:03 am]: @Videre Licet: I am just about to get in to the hottub
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 1:04 am]: YES!!!
Jacqueline [December 29, 2013 - 1:04 am]: @ArmunnRigh: agreed too - just hit 40deg C in Australia
ArmunnRigh [December 29, 2013 - 1:04 am]: :-O
ArmunnRigh [December 29, 2013 - 1:04 am]: now that's hot
khammad [December 29, 2013 - 1:04 am]: 40 F here in Seattle
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 1:04 am]: @Jacqueline: nICe!
ArmunnRigh [December 29, 2013 - 1:05 am]: 6ºC here in Lisboa
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 1:05 am]: (NOBODY died Simon on 9-11)
columjaddica [December 29, 2013 - 1:05 am]: Hmm, mountains in colorado feel like a harsh unforgiving moon around an unforgiving planet. I thought Michigan was cold
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 1:05 am]: brhh!
Jacqueline [December 29, 2013 - 1:05 am]: sure is - sitting in aircon though :P listening to fakeologist
ArmunnRigh [December 29, 2013 - 1:06 am]: the cat is on the heater, her favorite spot in winter
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 1:06 am]: mom in Canada says it was -28 c!!
ArmunnRigh [December 29, 2013 - 1:06 am]: :?
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 1:06 am]: B)
UNreal [December 29, 2013 - 1:07 am]: question to Simon: Why insist on such a weak point ? nobody can know the answer to how many died or not,,, it is "unknowable",,,
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 1:07 am]: @UNreal: So true!
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 1:08 am]: (but highly unlikely...)
UNreal [December 29, 2013 - 1:08 am]: no, these people vaccinate our children too,,, they are not afraid of deaths,,
ArmunnRigh [December 29, 2013 - 1:08 am]: all we may know is whether the official victim list is real or fake, we have no data to support a speculation about whether anyone really died there or not
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 1:08 am]: how did they die? and why isn't your loved one listed in the Social Security Death Index
columjaddica [December 29, 2013 - 1:09 am]: It would have been a good day to get rid of problems, but it does more or less look like nobody died
ArmunnRigh [December 29, 2013 - 1:09 am]: it's like the imagery: all we know is fake, we have no data to support any theory about how the towers disappeared
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 1:09 am]: I am with you on that one Simon
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 1:09 am]: and their lame families that don't show up to the memorials
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 1:10 am]: and the stupid families that never claimed the fund money !!!
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 1:10 am]: WTF?!
columjaddica [December 29, 2013 - 1:10 am]: I never looked into the characters of 9/11 much but if it was anything like Sandy Hook, then they were probably all fake
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 1:11 am]: they belong here
columjaddica [December 29, 2013 - 1:11 am]: Sandy Hook was so absurd, it took that kind of blatant bullshit to get me to realize
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 1:11 am]: we're fake-a-holics
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 1:12 am]: @columjaddica: and a bad green screen production too!
columjaddica [December 29, 2013 - 1:12 am]: I really dug into that for 56 months, real-estate, every possible lead. In the end it feels stupid to have bothered
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 1:12 am]: fewer people watching on the weekends
columjaddica [December 29, 2013 - 1:12 am]: 6 months I mean, on SHE
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 1:13 am]: it sheds light on how it was a PRODUCTION!
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 1:14 am]: It would be messy for the production crew
khammad [December 29, 2013 - 1:14 am]: @columjaddica: Personally, we do waste time, but I think its for several reasons. 1) to put our mind at ease because of the trauma we experienced, 2) to enlighten others.
columjaddica [December 29, 2013 - 1:14 am]: There's an entertainment factor
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 1:14 am]: stepping over dead bodies while trying to film the actors
farcevalue [December 29, 2013 - 1:14 am]: The towers had to be rigged perfectly, there would be a lot of people running around asking questions once the operation got underway.
columjaddica [December 29, 2013 - 1:15 am]: I will admit that, I love to dig into details, start with the name of a bystander. The payoff when you find they work in PR or media production, or whatever, I love that confirmation. The stories come fast now
Anders-Lindman [December 29, 2013 - 1:16 am]: The perpetrators followed the laws as much as possible. No victims. Not even faked victims except for the faked jumpers. The rest of the fakery they 'outsourced' to the U.S. government etc.
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 1:16 am]: @columjaddica: I think we all do .. that is how we all found our way here
columjaddica [December 29, 2013 - 1:16 am]: There's no factoid that will convincer everybody, but I still think I learn something by digging into the details of these crap stories, often it
ArmunnRigh [December 29, 2013 - 1:17 am]: @columjaddica: Some people have a knack for finding the important information. I don't. I'm good with analysing it, I think, but I'm worthless finding it.
smj [December 29, 2013 - 1:17 am]: it was the first day of school for his kid he said
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 1:17 am]: stop the music!!!
ArmunnRigh [December 29, 2013 - 1:17 am]: @columjaddica: so someone's got to do it!
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 1:17 am]: we are finally getting to the good stuff here!
Anders-Lindman [December 29, 2013 - 1:18 am]: TWA 800 was a precursor to 9/11. No real victims in the the TWA 800 crash, although the plane was of course real.
columjaddica [December 29, 2013 - 1:18 am]: I am the Google master, I'll say that. If you need to find something online I really know how to use search engines, but they've been gimped badly lately.
khammad [December 29, 2013 - 1:18 am]: @columjaddica: Sandy Hook pictures are not highly controlled
columjaddica [December 29, 2013 - 1:19 am]: I found some truely bizare things around SHE and other psyops that I never even shared, things so bizarre they had to be front-companies
khammad [December 29, 2013 - 1:19 am]: Even using google by date, has not allowed me to look up old pics I know were there before
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 1:19 am]: WOOO HOOO! broke the record 54 tonight!!!
khammad [December 29, 2013 - 1:20 am]: Thanks SIMON
khammad [December 29, 2013 - 1:20 am]: Thanks Ab, great show!!!
columjaddica [December 29, 2013 - 1:20 am]: Yeah, Google has changed. We have a fluid dataset, but they probably have a google that remembers what you remember used to be in google. Cache don't work right, everything is gimped now.
httpsjoeyz.myopenid.com [December 29, 2013 - 1:20 am]: 54 + 9
khammad [December 29, 2013 - 1:20 am]: Happy New Year to all of you!!!
columjaddica [December 29, 2013 - 1:20 am]: Good show!
farcevalue [December 29, 2013 - 1:20 am]: Thanks, Simon. It was a pleasure. Great job as always Ab. It was great being here with everyone.
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 1:20 am]: k everybody!!! Get up and dance ~~
Jan Erik Hansen [December 29, 2013 - 1:21 am]: Interesting show !
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 1:21 am]: happy END of 2013!
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 1:21 am]: @Jan Erik Hansen: ALWAYS
ArmunnRigh [December 29, 2013 - 1:21 am]: Tom Dalpra!
ab [December 29, 2013 - 1:21 am]: Happy New Year all... let's hope we have a great 2014.
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 1:22 am]: CHEERS! TO BETTER DAYS!!
Jan Erik Hansen [December 29, 2013 - 1:22 am]: :important:
Rollo [December 29, 2013 - 1:22 am]: The only way is Up
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 1:23 am]: @Rollo: yep!
jimbo [December 29, 2013 - 1:23 am]: Thanks Ab for another great show.
ArmunnRigh [December 29, 2013 - 1:23 am]: Thanks everyone!
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 1:24 am]: :(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:( (:Dfake-a-holic):(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(
ArmunnRigh [December 29, 2013 - 1:24 am]: Thanks ab for facilitating
khammad [December 29, 2013 - 1:24 am]: Thanks, Amen Ra
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 1:24 am]: hahahah
ArmunnRigh [December 29, 2013 - 1:24 am]: :D
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 1:24 am]: (our closer)
jimbo [December 29, 2013 - 1:25 am]: That last caller was on something. Meds I think.
ArmunnRigh [December 29, 2013 - 1:25 am]: ok, guys, see you sometime soon!
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 1:26 am]: @jimbo: or should be
ArmunnRigh [December 29, 2013 - 1:26 am]: Very late here and, despite what Videre tells you, I'm NOT on L.A. timezone!
Rollo [December 29, 2013 - 1:26 am]: Heh Nice one Wally :)
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 1:26 am]: @ArmunnRigh: you are too funny! Checking out the link you sent me.
jimbo [December 29, 2013 - 1:27 am]: @Videre:Ha Ha. Good one.
ab [December 29, 2013 - 1:27 am]: @ArmunnRigh: no problem. thanks for your input
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 1:27 am]: :D
ArmunnRigh [December 29, 2013 - 1:28 am]: bye! :D
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 1:28 am]: @ab: As always... Thanks for a wonderful show!
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 1:28 am]: (except for episode 98)
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 1:29 am]: ( 98
ab [December 29, 2013 - 1:29 am]: @Videre Licet: thanks for listening...propagate the youtube vid with Matt!
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 1:29 am]: I'm looking into the future again... I meant 68
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 1:31 am]: @ab: the youtube vid?
jimbo [December 29, 2013 - 1:34 am]: Like The Who says, let's not get fooled again.
Typoerror [December 29, 2013 - 1:43 am]: So typo, go and listen to that Brian Stavely podcast. You will see that Fetzer would not be agreeable. Will do bfn.
Typoerror [December 29, 2013 - 1:43 am]: Happy new year. everyone.
elbuggo [December 29, 2013 - 1:46 am]: brilliant observation:
Anders-Lindman
December 29, 2013 - 1:16 am
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The perpetrators followed the laws as much as possible. No victims. Not even faked victims except for the faked jumpers. The rest of the fakery they 'outsourced' to the U.S. government etc
columjaddica [December 29, 2013 - 1:46 am]: yes, the end of their two thousand and THIRTEEN. What a year! I'm amaazed by how much my beliefs changed in a year. They really pushed the limits of believability.
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 1:47 am]: @columjaddica: woke a lot of people up... wonder if they meant to...
columjaddica [December 29, 2013 - 1:48 am]: 2013 psyop moment of the year, if I had to pick one is shared between "Sum Ting Wong," "Wi Tu Lo," "Ho Lee Fuk," and "Bang Ding Ow"
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 1:49 am]: @columjaddica: my fav too
columjaddica [December 29, 2013 - 1:49 am]: I really think they meant to, it's one of my biggest ideas that I can't sell anybody on
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 1:49 am]: @columjaddica: or ... "you've got me walking in circles"
columjaddica [December 29, 2013 - 1:50 am]: If it's the case they will continue to make it obvious. Also wondering if 2014 will bring another spurt like around Boston. The psyops came so fast and with such big explosions, I was geniunly worried that civil war or something might have been breaking out. Then the burst faded and went back to normal schedulig
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 1:50 am]: the famous sandy hook firehouse shuffle
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 1:51 am]: all in a day of social engineering .. It is getting harder to move the masses
columjaddica [December 29, 2013 - 1:52 am]: It's a really big problem we have. I think they have put a whole generation of young people to work fabricating these things, they make their own work if it follows the general narrative. They can make these small psyops on their own. that's what I think. I see too many young PR people in all of these little psyops lately
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 1:52 am]: I think it is an adjustment period -- they no longer have as much control as they did with the tv
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 1:52 am]: desperate rulers
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 1:53 am]: desperate measures
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 1:53 am]: bad productions
columjaddica [December 29, 2013 - 1:53 am]: Yeah, but I have been noticing big changes in the internet. I use it far too much and the search engines, youtune, and facebook have all been tweaking. It's much harder to find certain things than before
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 1:53 am]: becoming very controlled
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 1:53 am]: since 2008
columjaddica [December 29, 2013 - 1:53 am]: There is collateral damage, I can search for something purely technical and I don't get useful results any longer when I did for years
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 1:54 am]: yep... time for the "OUTER net"
columjaddica [December 29, 2013 - 1:55 am]: It will never be what it was, but yeah balkanzation is the future of us, and regular people will get the internet that lets you buy things
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 1:55 am]: or notice how you used to be able to find personal pages
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 1:55 am]: not anymore
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 1:55 am]: millions of webpages never to be discovered...
columjaddica [December 29, 2013 - 1:57 am]: Google gimped everything. A big part of it is to force people into popular keywords. To force sites to compete for popular keywords instead of the "long tail". Long tail being "how to apply exterior latex paint" as opposed to "paint". Google only wants you to use simple search terms now, because they want everybody to PAY to have their site listed #1 under those prime words
columjaddica [December 29, 2013 - 1:57 am]: So outside of their relationship with the NSA or whatever, they have motivation to corral people into simpler and simpler searches
columjaddica [December 29, 2013 - 2:01 am]: Good talking with you Videre (and everybody), hoping AB has one of the open-format call-in shows soon I have the Skype hooked-up now. Time to get some sleep
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 2:03 am]: @columjaddica: cool! Great talking with you too!
ab [December 29, 2013 - 11:42 am]: Last night's show is online. Perhaps as the days go on we'll have a RAW @columjaddica
Tom-Dalpra [December 29, 2013 - 3:02 pm]: Catching up. Excellent.
Tom-Dalpra [December 29, 2013 - 3:30 pm]: haha!
Tom-Dalpra [December 29, 2013 - 3:56 pm]: That was a surprise. ha! Charmed, Armunn and Ab. Simon Shack on the last show of the year and my song at the end.
Tom-Dalpra [December 29, 2013 - 4:11 pm]: what's that bullshit about a Time magazine anyway? Banazir and Rollo sounded quite accusatory.
Tom-Dalpra [December 29, 2013 - 4:11 pm]: wasn't explained properly and someone kept giggling
Tom-Dalpra [December 29, 2013 - 4:11 pm]: and someone was snoring
Tom-Dalpra [December 29, 2013 - 4:21 pm]: then flippin Typo turned up right at the end. 6am in the UK. He was up and chirpy. Badly informed, but cheerfful, meanwhile we have an all-time legend of research on the call and HE has to ask for some moderation. haha
ab [December 29, 2013 - 4:58 pm]: @Tom-Dalpra: yes it was a wild call. I tend to let things fly towards the end. By the fourth hour, I lose most of my steam.
ab [December 29, 2013 - 4:58 pm]: Radio isn't meant to go that long!
aralsea [December 29, 2013 - 5:02 pm]: @Tom-Dalpra: Are you the guy who does music on youtube? IF so you are really good :D
ab [December 29, 2013 - 5:02 pm]: Please send me any 9/11 clips audio/video you think would be good for the audios
ab [December 29, 2013 - 5:03 pm]: ...broadcasts.
ab [December 29, 2013 - 5:03 pm]: boy I like the Cspan one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHAiB7tOeGo
aralsea [December 29, 2013 - 5:03 pm]: @ab: I so wanted to call in and talk to Simon Shack but Saturday nights are bust for me.
ab [December 29, 2013 - 5:05 pm]: @aralsea: ok. He drops by here so leave him a message if you want. I wonder if Simon would be interested in an ask Simon section in the forums?
aralsea [December 29, 2013 - 5:10 pm]: My question is did Mike Delaney really call him at home?
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 7:17 pm]: @ab: HI wanted to
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 7:19 pm]: http://www.voices.yahoo.com/your-brain-waves-change-watch-tv-low-alpha-349221.html
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 7:21 pm]: (on my phone) could be http://voices.yahoo.com/your-brain-waves-change-watch-tv-low-alpha-349221.html
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 7:33 pm]: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=10&ved=0CEcQFjAJ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fz5.ifrm.com%2F30157%2F88%2F0%2Fp1094049%2FEv_Four_Arguments_for_Eliminating_Television.pdf&ei=dbrAUqilI4TjoATw_4HYBg&usg=AFQjCNEp5rQD5HRfAROMmlbglRIEUm7sxQ&sig2=fkxpvrJhjjf8OnDwWB2zsQ
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 7:33 pm]: Arguments for eliminating TV8o
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 8:52 pm]: The last link exposes how we are easily manipulated -- even manipulated to find our way here...
jimbo [December 29, 2013 - 8:56 pm]: Whenever I see someone watching tv they look like they are in a trance state. I will have to say thier name a few times to get their attention. It's a very sad thing to see a whole family tranced out and not talking to each other like they did pre-tv days. I think living pre-1900 would be really cool, before radio & tv.
jimbo [December 29, 2013 - 9:03 pm]: The first thing I notice when I visit someones home is a room with a large flat screen on a elavated platform. Chairs are positioned in this room toward the large screen. The family spends most of their time looking at this screen. To a person from the distant past this room must look like a shrine to the large screen. People gather in front of it to give it their worship.
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 9:44 pm]: @jimbo: so true! So sad! We are so easy to manipulate..
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 9:45 pm]: 8o8o8o8o8o8o8o8o8o8o
Dustyash [December 29, 2013 - 10:14 pm]: Hi Armunn, thought you maybe interested in this if you have not seen it yet http://www.whale.to/b/soviet.htm
ArmunnRigh [December 29, 2013 - 10:16 pm]: @Dustyash: Very interesting indeed. Thanks! :)
Dustyash [December 29, 2013 - 10:19 pm]: your welcome
Dustyash [December 29, 2013 - 10:22 pm]: yeah me and my brother talked about this a long time ago so when I was on the phone with him last night we dug it up again it is interesting let me know your thoughts about it when you have time to finish it at your convenience
ArmunnRigh [December 29, 2013 - 10:25 pm]: Well, you can have the first thought straightaway. In Chapter 1, it reads:
ArmunnRigh [December 29, 2013 - 10:26 pm]: «Basically, Man is an animal. He is an animal which has been given a civilized veneer. Man is a collective animal, grouped together for his own protection before the threat of the environment. Those who so group and control him must have in their possession specialized techniques to direct the vagaries and energies of the animal Man toward greater efficiency in the accomplishment of the goals of
ArmunnRigh [December 29, 2013 - 10:26 pm]: the State.»
ArmunnRigh [December 29, 2013 - 10:29 pm]: This is more or less what I've been trying to explain. The text may make one think that the only solution is then for man to overcome being an animal and becoming something else. My view is that it is exactly these animal tendencies that enable any progression in mankind in the first place - the passions, the drives, the gregarious tendencies: these are animal tools. Like any tool they're not
ArmunnRigh [December 29, 2013 - 10:32 pm]: good or evil, they just are. If the animal is in balance with his own nature and his surrounding environment, then they will allow it to progress, in cooperation, to whatever lies beyond the animal. Still, first thing's first and no steps can be skipped without falling. What the people in power have managed to do first and foremost is to sell an artificial lifestyle and paradigm, in order to make
ArmunnRigh [December 29, 2013 - 10:35 pm]: themselves (those in power) replace nature. In an artifical reality, they command what nature commanded in authentic reality. That's where the deviation of the much needed animal part of mankind occurred first. This is not to say that mankind must deny technology, for it has always been a product of our own animal drives, but it certainly must step back, ascertain their "animalness" and accept
ArmunnRigh [December 29, 2013 - 10:40 pm]: Accepting it with full awareness enables also full responsibility for tending to the authenticness of reality as the only way to let things happen, progressively, in nature. Man wants to control its environment, but is as childish and temperamental as the god of the bible. Accept the nature of your body because it feeds your mind and your mind feeds your "soul" (or whatever other word one prefer
ArmunnRigh [December 29, 2013 - 10:41 pm]: A starving man has no mind because he has no body, you see? So how can he tend to his soul?
ArmunnRigh [December 29, 2013 - 10:45 pm]: Freedom, to the extent of one's limitations, is a natural animal trait, not an artificial one, so it can never be attained in virtual reality. Those who prefer to deny freedom, their own or others', are those least in contact with their animal sides.
ArmunnRigh [December 29, 2013 - 10:48 pm]: And on this philosophical note, I bid you all farewell, for I will now attend to my subconscious in realms of the underworld... that is to say, I'm going to bed and have good dreams. :D
Dustyash [December 29, 2013 - 11:00 pm]: thanks nice hear another persons thoughts on it thanks again
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 11:01 pm]: @ArmunnRigh: It is all an illusion. They have sold us on the idea that we are so far removed from nature and it is comforting to know that this is not true. The violent, raping, mass murdering, serial killing paradigm they have pushed on us is so far from who we are as humans. It makes one wonder what positive attributes mankind has that they have leached from us that we no longer are aware of.
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 11:04 pm]: @ArmunnRigh: Like you - I choose the good dreams and positive thoughts. Thank "goodness" we no longer have to live in fear like so many of our family and friends. Here's wishing them health and happiness - and a SPEEDY AWAKENING..
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 11:05 pm]: 8o8o8o8o8o8o8o8o:D8o8o8o8o8o8o8o8o
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 11:07 pm]: @Dustyash: Thanks for posting the link. :)
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 11:08 pm]: “Freedom of the press is limited to those who own one.” A.J. Liebling
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 11:10 pm]: Twenty-five billion dollars a year is spent in advertising, which is more than we spend on higher
education nationally. The first problem we have in the information age is too much information
inundating people with conflicting versions of increasingly complex events. People are giving up
on understanding: overload leads to passiveness, not involvement. The second problem is that
TV causes us
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 11:10 pm]: to exchange active, first-hand experience for passive second-hand experience. That
is, our experience is mediated by someone else’s perception of reality.
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 11:12 pm]: Argument 1 – TV conditions us to accept someone else’s authority.
Artificial environments deprive us of a direct knowledge of nature. Our knowledge is limited to
the created environment , and so we know only what we are told by “the creator” of that
environment. Whoever controls the creative process, defines reality for everyone else. We
become subject to the creator, and the “conf
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 11:12 pm]: “confinement of our experience” becomes the basis of the
creator’s power over us.
Videre Licet [December 29, 2013 - 11:16 pm]: 8 Conditions for Autocracy to Flower – Look familiar?
1. Eliminate personal knowledge 5. Occupy the mind with distractions
2. Eliminate points of comparison 6. Encourage drugs and conflict
3. Separate people from each other 7. Centralize knowledge and information
4. Unify everyone’s experience 8. Redefine happiness and meaning
Anders-Lindman [December 29, 2013 - 11:43 pm]: It could be a smart trick by Cluesforum to include obviously false claims like that about satellites being faked. Because that teaches people to be able to separate false from true claims. Just because some information is false doesn't mean all the information is false.
Anders-Lindman [December 30, 2013 - 12:28 am]: On a second thought, it's too retarded to claim that satellites are fake. It's an insult to people. I'm out of here.
Johan Backes [December 30, 2013 - 1:10 am]: Its not as sill as you might think there Anders....Most of what you imagine takes place in space can be accomplished from the ground: take this example..."Michael Hart has developed a technique that allows ...Earth-based telescopes to obtain images as crisp as those taken with the Hubble Space Telescope, and much more quickly."
Johan Backes [December 30, 2013 - 1:11 am]: From ... http://uanews.org/story/taking-twinkle-out-night-sky
Johan Backes [December 30, 2013 - 1:14 am]: Try finding a single legit picture of one of these satellites in orbit or even on the ground (or in the pool haha) All you will find generally is CGI garbage
Johan Backes [December 30, 2013 - 1:16 am]: I have redefined my definition of space due to the authority sources not being at all credible.
Johan Backes [December 30, 2013 - 1:17 am]: I konw you love Star Trek but get over it, it a movie too!
Johan Backes [December 30, 2013 - 1:18 am]: :o) Nevertheless your lie sandwich logic is sound, just try and apply it to NASA first
Johan Backes [December 30, 2013 - 1:21 am]: BTW to anyone who cares my video fanpage is back up on JTV at justin.tv/fakeology_channel
Tom-Dalpra [December 30, 2013 - 3:50 am]: @ab - excused! this is real, has it's own beautiful, chemical, randomness. @aralsea - yes, thanks :-) Some great ''chat'' Armunn and Videre...funny thought Jimbo. This is along the lines of my thinking. The theft of nature. A profound realisation. Thanks for the sanity, people.
Tom-Dalpra [December 30, 2013 - 3:54 am]: And Anders is ''out''. He's taken his Star Trek model and his version of 'lie sandwich logic '-:) JB - and he's having his packed lunch over there.
PeterShea [December 30, 2013 - 4:41 am]: anders was always dodgy. that much should have been longsince clear. just listened to the latest obf broadcast. nice. (g'day rollo, me old muckraker!). awkward few moments towards the end when the time magazine from simon's music video issue was raised. I think a better explanation is due us simon for this apparently serious anomaly than the one you didn't offer on the show.
PeterShea [December 30, 2013 - 4:55 am]: i liked some of the questions you posed banazir, and think that these 'bigger' questions (as to the true nature of our reality and indeed ourselves) deserve all the attention in the world. nothing is at all as it has been made seem. i would also like to see tim and simon do some research and take a stance (and post) on the serious issue (reality) of geoengineering or chemtrailing...
PeterShea [December 30, 2013 - 4:59 am]: ..not everything is faked, afterall.
what is the point of being able to call out fakery from great distances away when we cannot recognise the reality going down before our own very eyes?
PeterShea [December 30, 2013 - 5:19 am]: by representing your legal name (created with your birth (all aboard!) certificate, you willingly (if not wittingly) become (in their eyes and according to their rules) a dead entity with no standing. this is at the core of all the deception against us. and this deception of deceptions is now exposed and laid bare for all to see and comprehend. know thyself. http://kateofgaia.wordpress.com/
PeterShea [December 30, 2013 - 5:35 am]: and thanks for the mention on the main page tim. my 25/12/13 date has come and gone without any overt indications confirming my thoughts or lines of thinking on matters, but i am not ready to throw in the towel quite yet. the plebs/proles/hoi polloi/masses are always the last to know.
aralsea [December 30, 2013 - 6:18 am]: I agree TV is dangerous. I started withdrawl many years ago and switched to radio mainly but I still watch it for news and weather disinfo. But we have replaced TV watchingwith Youtube right? So whats the difference really?
aralsea [December 30, 2013 - 6:22 am]: @PeterShea: I enjoy your rants Peter. You have a heart of gold!
Videre Licet [December 30, 2013 - 7:20 am]: @aralsea: I don't think there is much of a difference except or the fact we think we have a little bit more control.
simonshack [December 30, 2013 - 7:45 am]: Dear Peter, if you just read my video description here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8WxIqYHymM you'll see that I wrote /recorded my "Weatherchange" song in 1999 - and made the video in 2000. Having re-listened to Ab's last show (which lasted until daybreak for me), I realize with dismay how terminally sleepy I was by the end of the show - and unable to grasp Banazir's and Rollo's point ab
simonshack [December 30, 2013 - 7:46 am]: point about that 2000 Time magazine... I also wish to apologize to Typoerror for my ungraciousness with him - again due to me being waaay past bedtime! Anyhow, i enjoyed the show and wish to thank Ab and everyone for ... existing! :O) a VERY happy New Year to all!
simonshack [December 30, 2013 - 8:25 am]: @aralsea: Well, dunno if it was Delaney who called me on my cellphone (twice) in the middle of the night - but I presume it was one or the other of his followers - it's not like the caller introduced himself, you know...
Tom-Dalpra [December 30, 2013 - 11:42 am]: @simonshack. Cool. I'd like to take the opportunity to say 'thank you' to Simon for your fantastic research. Everything. The film, the forum, the moderation there. Your patience, skill and graciousness.
Tom-Dalpra [December 30, 2013 - 11:50 am]: grace.
Tom-Dalpra [December 30, 2013 - 11:56 am]: what a trip
ala samoan [December 30, 2013 - 3:04 pm]: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/30/world/europe/volgograd-russia-explosion.html
ala samoan [December 30, 2013 - 3:05 pm]: Anyone looked @ the moskow bombings
ala samoan [December 30, 2013 - 3:08 pm]: Anyone looked @ the Russia bombings http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/30/world/europe/volgograd-russia-explosion.html
smj [December 30, 2013 - 3:11 pm]: @peter I'm of the opinion that our consent, or our parents', implied or not; means nothing in the big picture. you can walk into court as wild eyed and free as can be, but at the end of the day it's all motion practice within their legal framework. and on the off chance you become adept at challenging their framework, they will just move the goalposts. you will only find the opposite of freedo
smj [December 30, 2013 - 3:12 pm]: of freedom in the courthouse.
smj [December 30, 2013 - 3:19 pm]: @ ala yep, I looked, but I stopped at "at least 16 dead".
ala samoan [December 30, 2013 - 3:41 pm]: Sorry for posting 3 times, on holiday & posting from my phone. Fat fingers
ala samoan [December 30, 2013 - 3:43 pm]: @smj: me to, thank Markus Allen for the "at least" code theory. It's a good one
aralsea [December 30, 2013 - 4:07 pm]: @simonshack: Delaney said he called your number on a recent show of his. Just wondering if he was joking or not.
smj [December 30, 2013 - 5:20 pm]: @ ala 1(at least) + (1+6) = wry smile
ab [December 30, 2013 - 7:18 pm]: @simonshack: I thought you weren't your normal self....I am glad you were just very "sleepy".
ab [December 30, 2013 - 7:20 pm]: I have a PGP key for my email now. I am off the google plantation for email, as per Adam Curry's idea. if you wish to send me an encrypted email, go to http://contact.fakeologist.com. I use thunderbird + enigma for my email ... suggest you all do the same if possible.
ab [December 30, 2013 - 7:23 pm]: Chris has a show tonite on talkshoe: http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/tscmd/tc/90337
ArmunnRigh [December 30, 2013 - 7:40 pm]: @ab: So you won't have a direct email address anymore from now on?
ArmunnRigh [December 30, 2013 - 7:40 pm]: @ab: or does the ima@fakeologist.com still work?
ab [December 30, 2013 - 7:53 pm]: @ArmunnRigh: I can be reached a million ways ... now I have a secure way, so if you want to send an email with privacy, you need a my public key. If you want to make sure I'm the sender, then you should use PGP.
ab [December 30, 2013 - 7:54 pm]: you can still use the email address normally, but now you can send a secure email to that address.
ab [December 30, 2013 - 7:55 pm]: I know it's all confusing. All our emails are harmless, but if say someone wanted to send me something he didn't want snooped on (easily) by the NSA or whoever, then now there is the key.
ArmunnRigh [December 30, 2013 - 8:07 pm]: You got to explain how that is set up when you have time, over skype. :)
ab [December 30, 2013 - 8:12 pm]: @ArmunnRigh: I'm on skype now if u wish
columjaddica [December 30, 2013 - 9:40 pm]: The public-key-infrastructure is a trust-based system, and the trusted authorities are not trustworthy. SSL (https) has the same problems. Basically, most well-known crypto experts says it's all fine, but we basically have to trust them. http://www.zdnet.com/nsa-spying-trust-the-pki-or-its-anarchy-on-the-internet-7000018946/
columjaddica [December 30, 2013 - 9:42 pm]: Most of the best and brightest crypto experts work for the NSA or research universities connected with the NSA. Nobody else knows enough to say for sure but public-key based systems are all a bit suspect these days. Same thing with bitcoin, it's supposed to be anon but probably isn't, they just occulted it to the point where it looks secure to us but they know better.
columjaddica [December 30, 2013 - 9:43 pm]: but using pgp will keep out the everyday losers that want to screw with you, if not the nsa
columjaddica [December 30, 2013 - 9:46 pm]: With ssl (https) for websites, you basically end up trusting that Verisign will not sell you out. PGP for email has the same problems. Verisign is VERY connected with the federal govt. Verisign doesn't even have it's authority if the fedgov didn't agree to give it to them, so of course they are not trustworthy
columjaddica [December 30, 2013 - 9:54 pm]: Verisign is one of the largest certificate authorities. They sign certificates for everything from email to SSL certificates for websites to signed drivers for Windows. They approved bunk driver certificates for stuxnet (or so the story goes) http://voices.yahoo.com/can-trust-verisign-after-stuxnet-8031460.html With this stuff you basically have to trust the CA that they wont sell you out
columjaddica [December 30, 2013 - 9:57 pm]: It's hard to explain, but PKI depends on you trusting the authority, the only truely secure method is to encrypt a file with some strong method using a passphrase that you shared face-to-face with the other person. PKI makes it easier but you have to trust that authority. My feelings are that using PKI encryption on email is basically a honeypot, it says that you have something to hide and
columjaddica [December 30, 2013 - 9:57 pm]: the nsa has the influence on the authorities to read what you sent
ab [December 30, 2013 - 10:06 pm]: @columjaddica: thanks. I guess it's better than nothing (or not)
columjaddica [December 30, 2013 - 10:06 pm]: Basically, there is a middle-man that can expose your secret in any PKI system. That's why you don't have to share your password outside of the system before-hand. There's no reason to trust those authorities at all. It's kind of a hoot to think about, that they promote these systems that are corrupted by design
columjaddica [December 30, 2013 - 10:08 pm]: Yeah, it's same as https for websites, better than nothing because without it you could lose anything to some everyday hack. This system means you can only be spied on by govt and a few corps. I just wish they were honest about it, they aren't even honest on netsec related forums a lot of time, because people in the industry want to keep up the illusion that they have that 100% solution.
columjaddica [December 30, 2013 - 10:16 pm]: It's so strange to talk about this stuff because they confirmed it with the Snowden thing and I really think it's obvious that Snowden is completely fake (muh spilled guts on the B-17). Most of the stuff Snowden said, really all of it, is true. That's why I end up here where I think they are trying to make it obvious they are tyrants or something. 2013 was strange
columjaddica [December 30, 2013 - 10:19 pm]: Well, everything he said wasn
columjaddica [December 30, 2013 - 10:19 pm]: wasn't true, but the stuff that he said the govt was doing all seems to be true, at least the capabilities
columjaddica [December 30, 2013 - 10:20 pm]: I don't know on what scale the NSA implemented it, but really the whole internet was a DOD program and I would assume they always had what they wanted
columjaddica [December 30, 2013 - 10:22 pm]: Even with any encryption you can be compromised by something on the endpoints where you see it in plaintext. And with say Windows there is little reason to believe your endpoint is secure
columjaddica [December 30, 2013 - 10:23 pm]: that sounds dirty :P
columjaddica [December 30, 2013 - 10:24 pm]: I spent a decade in IT and after all of it I'm more disillusioned with security than ever before. Network security is a joke
Jan Erik Hansen [December 30, 2013 - 11:26 pm]: @columjaddica: can U send me login details for your blog at mail pusesilver@hotmail.com
smj [December 30, 2013 - 11:30 pm]: a little something for your viewing pleasure brought to you by those comic geniuses at nasa. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DDkfFkNHqpE
smj [December 30, 2013 - 11:34 pm]: and in case your wondering, nasa is still proudly owning that enterprise b.s. http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/news/features/2012/nichols-visit.html
columjaddica [December 31, 2013 - 12:02 am]: @Jan, sent over credentials
columjaddica [December 31, 2013 - 12:05 am]: Looks like it bounced back, is there a typo in your email addres?
columjaddica [December 31, 2013 - 2:18 am]: I saw this article and couldn't help thinking that the headline sounds like a headline from The Onion. Also, it ties into the fake events IMO because this is all about trauma and repeating it. The program they are now putting on us all went through a lot of testing on military personnel with PTSD before they moved parts of it into use in the media.
columjaddica [December 31, 2013 - 2:20 am]: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_MED_TREATING_RAPED_TEENS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2013-12-24-16-13-46 resiliency is the keyword. Portraits of resilience from 9/11. http://content.time.com/time/beyond911/# Throw any fake event and "resilience" into Google and see what happens. "Resilience" is only their desired response to repeated trauma. They use it like newspe
columjaddica [December 31, 2013 - 2:30 am]: junglesurfer posted a video recently about Lara Logan. Just googling though pics of her in Egypt and really, they all look fake as hell. She's just a foreground layer http://imgur.com/EVixGYb
columjaddica [December 31, 2013 - 2:33 am]: http://i.imgur.com/EyFVl1k.png You could say that of course a reporter is in the foreground I suppose
Jan Erik Hansen [December 31, 2013 - 1:35 pm]: :)
httpsjoeyz.myopenid.com [December 31, 2013 - 2:48 pm]: The "mini-nuke" debate was addressed last night on Chris K's
Hoax Busters Call between min 12:00 - 28:00. His dry, simple
style "should" render the logic/ silliness "mad science!"
Perhaps, even to someone with a doctorate in the philosophy
of science, and a size thirteen hat.
With some supreme editing skills Chris' diatribe could be
distilled into a 3 min youtube clip - accompanied wit
httpsjoeyz.myopenid.com [December 31, 2013 - 2:49 pm]: with ears to hear. This excludes Don Fox of course.
BTW- Happy New Year, Same Shite, ALL!!!
httpsjoeyz.myopenid.com [December 31, 2013 - 2:51 pm]: OOPs!! - accompanied with
some borrowed campy cartoon footage for spoof effect.
Later, to be uplinked Dr Fatzer's blog,
smj [December 31, 2013 - 3:21 pm]: i, too, really enjoyed chris' diatribe last night. it was right up there with his money system rants.
Tom-Dalpra [December 31, 2013 - 5:19 pm]: I'm intrigued to know if anyone thinks my # 9/11 theory holds any water. Two bold strikes across the falling towers anyone?
Tom-Dalpra [December 31, 2013 - 5:20 pm]: Popularised in twitter usage by the 'Lucky' landing of that plane in the Hudson River according to urban dictionary.http://fakeologist.com/forums/topic/twin-tower-memes/
Tom-Dalpra [December 31, 2013 - 5:32 pm]: # reference - to money too.
Gabriel [December 31, 2013 - 7:02 pm]: @Ab, looks like your mayor was as big a highlight in 2013 as Miley showing her ass, http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/12/31/22112989-from-the-biebs-to-cat-beards-what-celebs-loved-and-hated-in-2013?lite. Gotta love that fake reality.
ab [December 31, 2013 - 7:50 pm]: @Gabriel: sad he was a highlite. What a dull year!
farcevalue [December 31, 2013 - 10:58 pm]: Happy New Year, Ab, to you, yours and all the fine folks at Fakeologist.com!
ab [December 31, 2013 - 11:09 pm]: @farcevalue: Thanks and to you. Hope you all have a good year ahead, free of worry about the many fake events.
aralsea [January 1, 2014 - 6:18 am]: Happy New Year! Tim Ab Irato dot info!!! Shine On! Toronto Rocks! Get your $100.00 storm rebate! Peace:)
knagjak [January 1, 2014 - 9:05 am]: Happy new start too another year! Glad to see what this site got in store.
columjaddica [January 1, 2014 - 10:12 am]: Ever notice how comments on news articles, now that you can sign into most sites with Facebook, show the name of the company or school that the commenter is associated with? Is that enabled by default when you sign into a site like say usnews using facebook? I can see this use of facebook ID would probably have a chilling effect. Anybody can get you canned if they don't like what you say
columjaddica [January 1, 2014 - 10:13 am]: Been a lot of "watch what you say online" stories lately as well.
ab [January 1, 2014 - 10:36 am]: @aralsea: To you and yours. No, didn't get my storm coupon. Another bit of a joke. How about a rebate on my hydro bill?
jimbo [January 1, 2014 - 11:29 pm]: Here is an interesting quote I found.
jimbo [January 1, 2014 - 11:31 pm]: "As a rule, what is out of sight disturbs men's minds more seriously than what they see." Julius Caesar
Dustyash [January 2, 2014 - 12:25 am]: we are testing another show on talk shoe if anyone is interested everyone is welcome cheers here is the link http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/talkCast.jsp?masterId=131445&cmd=tc
Jan Erik Hansen [January 2, 2014 - 7:37 am]: MAN WHO SWAM IN COOLING POOLS & SAYS NUCLEAR RADIATION NOT DANGEROUS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyEBQem7tqc
Jan Erik Hansen [January 2, 2014 - 7:43 am]: Chernobyl Reclaimed: An Animal Takeover http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1p7h9Z0fyg
smj [January 2, 2014 - 11:19 am]: @ jan eric. galen's reactor must be less dangerous than this ex-boyscout entity's smoke alarm collection. http://nicedeb.wordpress.com/2007/08/03/scary-mugshot-of-radioactive-boy-scout/
Tom-Dalpra [January 2, 2014 - 12:04 pm]: was in a gallery in Berlin looking at these old Ukranian photos of the bathers at an old soviet nuclear plant. It was like going to the beach. Families would picnic at the cooling pools.
Tom-Dalpra [January 2, 2014 - 12:07 pm]: What the feck is radiation and is the geiger counter total bollocks?
Tom-Dalpra [January 2, 2014 - 12:11 pm]: It's Jimbos' quote -"As a rule, what is out of sight disturbs men's minds more seriously than what they see." for radiation. That invisible bogeyman. We had the story of a turned spy a guy called Litvinienko who died a horrible death after being poisoned with deadly radiation in a sushi bar. It put me off 'going Japanese' for a few years.
Tom-Dalpra [January 2, 2014 - 12:16 pm]: Multi-faceted psyop.
Tom-Dalpra [January 2, 2014 - 12:20 pm]: asserting the deadly radiation lie and the deadly assassination lie.
Tom-Dalpra [January 2, 2014 - 2:01 pm]: Japanese, radiation...get it?
Tom-Dalpra [January 2, 2014 - 2:13 pm]: In the process of this apparently slow, agonising, death he made a last ditch gesture and converted to Islam. Is this stuff as funny to you now, as it is to me?
smj [January 2, 2014 - 2:52 pm]: @ tom i get a kick out of a lot of these stories, but i've always been a sucker for lowbrow humor.
Tom-Dalpra [January 2, 2014 - 5:22 pm]: :o):o):o):o):o):o):o):o):o):o):o):o):o):o)
Tom-Dalpra [January 2, 2014 - 5:22 pm]: that sort of shit?
Tom-Dalpra [January 2, 2014 - 5:26 pm]: :-) it surely is lowbrow
Tom-Dalpra [January 2, 2014 - 5:30 pm]: On the radiation thing, this David Icke horseshit just popped up on my facebook feed - The west coast of the United States is being Fried!!!http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/36-signs-the-media-is-lying-to-you-about-how-radiation-from-fukushima-is-affecting-the-west-coast/
columjaddica [January 2, 2014 - 7:02 pm]: @Tom: I saw that, new-year and now there are rumors that the MOX reactor is about to meltdown (again). I find the idea of Japan nuking us interesting, it's all too perfect.
columjaddica [January 2, 2014 - 7:07 pm]: I also know a guy (an aquaintance) that is one of the sailors from the USS Ronald Reagan involved in the suit over radiation exposure from Fukushima. He claims all kinds of health maladies and is already on disability. I never saw anything that made me think he was really sick but who knows? http://www.navytimes.com/article/20131228/NEWS08/312280004/Reagan-sailors-press-radiation-lawsuit
Tom-Dalpra [January 2, 2014 - 9:04 pm]: thanks colum that gave me a laugh. The originator of the claim 24 year old Lindsay '' suffered drastic weight losses and gains over short periods of time, gynecological issues and a noticeable lack of energy''
Tom-Dalpra [January 2, 2014 - 9:05 pm]: To be fair, that is bad. I've had two girl friends with that. It's a fuckin nightmare
aralsea [January 2, 2014 - 9:11 pm]: Surely if we had nuclear weapons, we would have used some by now, Just like we would have gone back to the moon.
aralsea [January 2, 2014 - 9:13 pm]: Most of the JFK cover up people will be dead in ten years. Is there a dynastic continuation of cover ups?
Tom-Dalpra [January 2, 2014 - 9:15 pm]: it's an ongoing writing of the story. keep playing to the old script of the forefathers
Atlanta Bill [January 2, 2014 - 10:30 pm]: I guess there's not a broadcast this evening, n'est-ce pas?
Jan Erik Hansen [January 3, 2014 - 3:45 am]: Japan, Fake Nukes and the Jesuit Order http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiHotElsJFw
Jan Erik Hansen [January 3, 2014 - 5:37 am]: Explosive Demolition- 2002 Best Building Implosions http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sK50So-yYRU
ab [January 3, 2014 - 6:58 am]: @Atlanta Bill: Saturday nites usually
JSAM [January 3, 2014 - 3:02 pm]: This blog is nothing but a bunch of BULLLLLLLSHIT
dimarie19 [January 3, 2014 - 3:39 pm]: use tragedies to get your name out there....karma's coming
columjaddica [January 3, 2014 - 4:09 pm]: Use tragedies for marketing, sounds more like television to me. Which you should probably get back to I hear the DVR is filling up
JSAM [January 3, 2014 - 4:36 pm]: at first, i was enraged with this blog for posting about my friends death...but now I just feel sorry for all of you involved in making it or reading it.
JSAM [January 3, 2014 - 4:44 pm]: It's one thing to talk about government conspiracy and celebrities. But talking about a innocent person like this is so unacceptable. Shannon Guy is a real person, with family and friends that miss her beyond belief. So fuck all of you who are talking about this story like you know what happened because you know FUCK ALL.
smj [January 3, 2014 - 5:53 pm]: @ the jsam entity. the whole point of this site is to talk about stories like we DON'T what happened.
smj [January 3, 2014 - 5:54 pm]: edit DON'T know what happened.
JSAM [January 3, 2014 - 6:07 pm]: Well excuse me that I am angry that a bunch of people who know nothing about what actually happened to my friends are talking about it like they do know.
columjaddica [January 3, 2014 - 6:13 pm]: There are a large number of hoax stories, it can be hard to tell which stories are legitimate. We discuss that here. Story was in the news, it will be discussed, welcome to the "free world"
columjaddica [January 3, 2014 - 6:20 pm]: If the story is true, that's unfortunate. I could understand why a friend or family would be angry, but you shouldn't be. Our opinions have little weight and for every person who looks at the story without emotion there are another 10,000 that post their condolences. Do not dwell on things that make you upset online
ArmunnRigh [January 3, 2014 - 7:04 pm]: @JSAM: This site analyses news stories not the private lives of people. I must have missed that story here, but if it's on a news channel of any sort it is in the public space for debate. A name and a face on a newspaper does not necessarily mean a real person. For all that's worth nobody can tell if you or me are real people or who we claim to be behind our nicknames.
ArmunnRigh [January 3, 2014 - 7:05 pm]: @JSAM: Assuming it is a real event behind that story, I would be more offended at a news agency profiting from a tragedy that happened to a friend of mine than at anyone discussing its veracity - but that's me.
columjaddica [January 3, 2014 - 11:58 pm]: The celeb death stories keep coming fast and furious. So many since the new year and some of the first stories were stuff like Ariel Sharon and Barbara Bush getting closer. Here are some that came up close together on one of the sites I like for finding BS (breakingnews.com screenshot) http://i.imgur.com/y29M3jD.png
columjaddica [January 3, 2014 - 11:59 pm]: Out with the old, in with the new?
columjaddica [January 4, 2014 - 12:01 am]: breakingnews.com is basically a souped-up Twitter feed owned by NBC. I find it useful but they recently did a redesign and seem to be filtering more heavily (and they also now announce editor on duty). They recently posted this promo video and I found it very interesting, the comparisons to TV. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-8hGhj-Bd0
columjaddica [January 4, 2014 - 12:03 am]: They also added a "WHOA!" button, next to all of the stories. It seems that kind of stuff in social media is just to make people feel involved in something that is actually top-down.
columjaddica [January 4, 2014 - 12:08 am]: From the screenshot, dead at 92 (9+2=11), 74(7+4=11), 83 (8+3=11). Hrrm.... :O
columjaddica [January 4, 2014 - 12:33 am]: 101 92 83 74 65. They also said a few days ago that James Avery died at 65 (11). Then corrected to 68 (although many articles are still showing 65
smj [January 4, 2014 - 12:52 am]: @jsam. no need to excuse yourself. it's all good.
Johan Backes [January 4, 2014 - 3:30 am]: The World Health Organization’s 20-year review of the Chernobyl disaster found that its psychological impacts did more health damage than radiation exposure did, and a principle cause of the population’s debilitating stress was “an exaggerated sense of the dangers to health of exposure to radiation.” via http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/22/opinion/fear-vs-radiation-the-mismatch.html?_r=0
Johan Backes [January 4, 2014 - 3:31 am]: Ionizing radiation is not dangerous, the fear porn surrounding it is
Johan Backes [January 4, 2014 - 3:34 am]: Our anxiety about nuclear radiation is rooted in our understandable fear of the terrible power of nuclear weapon(oops! They are fake!)
ab [January 4, 2014 - 7:33 am]: @Johan Backes: could WHO be telling the truth with their latest report? Since they can't always be lying if they are taking both sides, then perhaps fear is cancer causing or at least stress-inducing.
Tom-Dalpra [January 4, 2014 - 8:15 am]: Well, yeh. Fear is stress.
Tom-Dalpra [January 4, 2014 - 8:17 am]: That case Colum posted re. the USS Reagan and 71 crew members claiming compensation for myriad ailments having gone to help at Fukushima.
Tom-Dalpra [January 4, 2014 - 8:18 am]: There's claims still going on from people invited to the original nuclear tests
Tom-Dalpra [January 4, 2014 - 8:19 am]: got cancer- filed a claim - got over it - got piles -filed another claim
Tom-Dalpra [January 4, 2014 - 8:20 am]: you could pay a lawyer to take these cases on -no charge to the clients and have these cases run and run as good pr
columjaddica [January 4, 2014 - 12:47 pm]: Local media not so local : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TM8L7bdwVaA
columjaddica [January 4, 2014 - 12:52 pm]: and people feel that their local news anchor is an old friend...
Jan Erik Hansen [January 4, 2014 - 4:45 pm]: “The real hopeless victims of mental illness are to be found among those who appear to be most normal. "Many of them are normal because they are so well adjusted to our mode of existence, because their human voice has been silenced so early in their lives, that they do not even struggle or suffer or develop symptoms as the neurotic does." They are normal not in what may be called the absolute
Jan Erik Hansen [January 4, 2014 - 4:46 pm]: sense of the word; they are normal only in relation to a profoundly abnormal society. Their perfect adjustment to that abnormal society is a measure of their mental sickness. These millions of abnormally normal people, living without fuss in a society to which, if they were fully human beings, they ought not to be adjusted.” Aldous Huxley
columjaddica [January 4, 2014 - 6:18 pm]: Hey Jan, you still want a login for my site? I tried to send to your email as given but it bounced back so I think there was a typo
columjaddica [January 4, 2014 - 6:24 pm]: If you want you can email me at admin@truthmessages.pw
Jan Erik Hansen [January 4, 2014 - 7:22 pm]: :important:
Dustyash [January 4, 2014 - 7:48 pm]: The first Raw show of 2014 should be good hope there are new callers looking forward to this cool
Rollo [January 4, 2014 - 7:59 pm]: Hey Dusty , I enjoyed DustBin22 oops Dustban22....what time EST do you guys get going?
Dustyash [January 4, 2014 - 8:16 pm]: we don't really have a time yet we just decide to wing it Banazir is still working out the kinks but once he gets into a groove it will be better. I thank you for listening and I hope to talk to you on there I am glad you enjoyed it we Jan Erik on a few days ago it was fun
Dustyash [January 4, 2014 - 8:17 pm]: sorry I could not spell at the end there
Dustyash [January 4, 2014 - 8:17 pm]: lol
ArmunnRigh [January 4, 2014 - 8:19 pm]: Hey there, guys
Rollo [January 4, 2014 - 8:23 pm]: Dusty Only if you'll have this MAD AS HELL Aussie who's not gonna take it anymore...or maybe just a little bit
Dustyash [January 4, 2014 - 8:25 pm]: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTUgGPUrDpE&list=RDVTUgGPUrDpE I love it Rollo the first link is just for you I love what you had to say last Saturday with OBF it was great you have the courage no doubt about that if you want blood you got it
Rollo [January 4, 2014 - 8:28 pm]: I really enjoyed Chris Kendalls opening to last Tuesdays Hoaxbusters......what did he say something like " That Don Fox needs to shut the FUCK! up"....Amen to that....Ive been reading the latest on that Don Fox thread and he seems like a real nasty character in this.
Dustyash [January 4, 2014 - 8:32 pm]: yeah it doesn't surprise me
Dustyash [January 4, 2014 - 8:32 pm]: And hello Armunn
Rollo [January 4, 2014 - 8:33 pm]: Yep let me know a time and Ill chat with you two for sure, Ill even be calm , quiet and Civil
Dustyash [January 4, 2014 - 8:33 pm]: Chris Kendall is good yeah
Rollo [January 4, 2014 - 8:33 pm]: He's a Straight Shooter
Rollo [January 4, 2014 - 8:33 pm]: I lIke that
Dustyash [January 4, 2014 - 8:34 pm]: be whatever you like that is the show just tell it like it is you do that better than anyone that I have seen yet and it is good
ArmunnRigh [January 4, 2014 - 8:37 pm]: @khammad: Hey there! Are you going to call in to the raw call tonight?
Rollo [January 4, 2014 - 8:38 pm]: Ok then maybe I can start calm and you two can drive me as MaD as Hell...like Fetzer / Fox do
Dustyash [January 4, 2014 - 8:39 pm]: sounds good
Rollo [January 4, 2014 - 8:40 pm]: No Worries....Abs looking for Fresh Meat tonight :)
khammad [January 4, 2014 - 9:03 pm]: @ArmunnRigh: I think I will.
Tom-Dalpra [January 4, 2014 - 9:07 pm]: just in from a gig - good timing - get the kettle on and tune in. Good morning from the Cambridge, England.
Rollo [January 4, 2014 - 9:08 pm]: Gday Tom from the Newcastle....OZ
ArmunnRigh [January 4, 2014 - 9:09 pm]: @khammad: *applause*
Tom-Dalpra [January 4, 2014 - 9:09 pm]: yes, excuse the the
ArmunnRigh [January 4, 2014 - 9:09 pm]: The The : that's a band, isn't it, Tom?
ArmunnRigh [January 4, 2014 - 9:09 pm]: :D
Tom-Dalpra [January 4, 2014 - 9:10 pm]: Yes, that was a band too
Tom-Dalpra [January 4, 2014 - 9:10 pm]: Good day to you chaps
ArmunnRigh [January 4, 2014 - 9:10 pm]: welcome Tom!
khammad [January 4, 2014 - 9:11 pm]: @ArmunnRigh: I forgot, how would one call in?
ArmunnRigh [January 4, 2014 - 9:11 pm]: add username fakeologist to Skype
ArmunnRigh [January 4, 2014 - 9:12 pm]: or call (518) 564-0491, but skype is free of charge
ArmunnRigh [January 4, 2014 - 9:13 pm]: (518 ) 564-0491
Rollo [January 4, 2014 - 9:13 pm]: Skype is free just like Love
ArmunnRigh [January 4, 2014 - 9:14 pm]: Rollove
Rollo [January 4, 2014 - 9:15 pm]: heh
khammad [January 4, 2014 - 9:16 pm]: Love Raw, you are being drowned out by the music though.
ArmunnRigh [January 4, 2014 - 9:16 pm]: he always does that :D
Rollo [January 4, 2014 - 9:16 pm]: Good Mix Here
ArmunnRigh [January 4, 2014 - 9:16 pm]: we never get his first words
khammad [January 4, 2014 - 9:18 pm]: Tim, you do an amazing job!!!
Tom-Dalpra [January 4, 2014 - 9:18 pm]: you'd never get this with the bbc
Rollo [January 4, 2014 - 9:19 pm]: BBC = Bad Breath Condition
Tom-Dalpra [January 4, 2014 - 9:19 pm]: balls bollocks and codswollop
Rollo [January 4, 2014 - 9:20 pm]: much better than Big Brother Corporation sounds too 1948
Tom-Dalpra [January 4, 2014 - 9:21 pm]: big brainwashing club
khammad [January 4, 2014 - 9:23 pm]: Is it just my computer that is lagging? Or is the sound going in and out?
ArmunnRigh [January 4, 2014 - 9:23 pm]: reload the stream here: http://panel2.directhostingcenter.com/start/woqcgagy/
columjaddica [January 4, 2014 - 9:23 pm]: That's been happening to me. Need to refresh and play it again
Dustyash [January 4, 2014 - 9:29 pm]: I find closing the site then come back on again sign in and click on the show I have that problem from time to time
ArmunnRigh [January 4, 2014 - 9:54 pm]: A great name for a beachside resort of ill repute: Sandy Hookers :D
Rollo [January 4, 2014 - 9:59 pm]: expand
khammad [January 4, 2014 - 10:03 pm]: Are you all back on?
Dustyash [January 4, 2014 - 10:03 pm]: yes hello
ArmunnRigh [January 4, 2014 - 10:03 pm]: I've been on http://panel2.directhostingcenter.com/start/woqcgagy/ uninterruptedly
khammad [January 4, 2014 - 10:05 pm]: My babysitter was Malaysian. Wow, kindest people, so giving and helpful.
Anders-Lindman [January 4, 2014 - 10:10 pm]: East india company flag: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_the_British_East_India_Company_%281801%29.svg
Jan Erik Hansen [January 4, 2014 - 10:10 pm]: https://www.google.no/search?q=british+east+india+flag&client=opera&hs=dN0&channel=suggest&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=4MzIUqDSG-aHyQPIloAw&ved=0CDIQsAQ&biw=1412&bih=755
columjaddica [January 4, 2014 - 10:12 pm]: Wow, that flag makes one think
Anders-Lindman [January 4, 2014 - 10:13 pm]: United States = corporation according to some researchers
columjaddica [January 4, 2014 - 10:14 pm]: Yeah, makes me think about all of that free man on the land stuff.
ArmunnRigh [January 4, 2014 - 10:14 pm]: The current USA flag is not the flag of the republic
columjaddica [January 4, 2014 - 10:17 pm]: Been a crazy year, never thought I'd believe things like the revolution was a hoax. Takes a long time to straighten out your head with this stuff
Jan Erik Hansen [January 4, 2014 - 10:17 pm]: act of 1871 made USA a corporation !
ArmunnRigh [January 4, 2014 - 10:18 pm]: @Jan Erik Hansen: exactly ;) you're the man
Dustyash [January 4, 2014 - 10:18 pm]: The early making of agenda 21
Dustyash [January 4, 2014 - 10:20 pm]: Being a slave is sad it can be hard to talk!!
Dustyash [January 4, 2014 - 10:20 pm]: it is freedom of speech as long as you don't say to much
Dustyash [January 4, 2014 - 10:23 pm]: At my place of work a good slave can do a million things right and as soon as you do one thing wrong LOOK OUT it is really sad give me a break
Anders-Lindman [January 4, 2014 - 10:25 pm]: I think the Vatican created Islam as controlled opposition and to keep the Bysantine empire fighting with the Muslims thereby keeping Rome alone.
ArmunnRigh [January 4, 2014 - 10:26 pm]: A dildo for rabbit holes
Tom-Dalpra [January 4, 2014 - 10:27 pm]: she was happy he put it up
Anders-Lindman [January 4, 2014 - 10:27 pm]: The Arab–Byzantine wars were a series of wars between the mostly Arab Muslims and the East Roman or Byzantine Empire between the 7th and 11th centuries AD. -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab%E2%80%93Byzantine_wars
ArmunnRigh [January 4, 2014 - 10:27 pm]: aren't they usually? :D
Anders-Lindman [January 4, 2014 - 10:27 pm]: That's half a millenia of wars!
Jan Erik Hansen [January 4, 2014 - 10:28 pm]: Do as we say not as we do
Dustyash [January 4, 2014 - 10:29 pm]: right on Jan
Dustyash [January 4, 2014 - 10:30 pm]: the never ending struggle for survival for the vast majority slaves then they throw in fear and fake news broadcasts on top of it wow what the hell what a joke!
columjaddica [January 4, 2014 - 10:31 pm]: There's still a reason to talk about it. People still believe it, so you have to look at them to have ammunition to counter it. It's nice to know that people are not always dying in these but their actions are still violence. They are trying to traumatize people permanently
Jan Erik Hansen [January 4, 2014 - 10:32 pm]: ORDO AB CHAO
ArmunnRigh [January 4, 2014 - 10:33 pm]: AB is between Order and Chaos!
Jan Erik Hansen [January 4, 2014 - 10:33 pm]: http://gnosticwarrior.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/33-Freemasonry.jpg
Jan Erik Hansen [January 4, 2014 - 10:33 pm]: :)
ArmunnRigh [January 4, 2014 - 10:34 pm]: @Jan Erik Hansen: You're gonna really love that video I sent you
Anders-Lindman [January 4, 2014 - 10:35 pm]: My attack is this: All reportedly live television video on 9/11 was live. :D (I hope Jim Fetzer agree with me.)
Jan Erik Hansen [January 4, 2014 - 10:36 pm]: Have seen it knew 95% of that info already thoe.
ArmunnRigh [January 4, 2014 - 10:36 pm]: oh
farcevalue [January 4, 2014 - 10:37 pm]: Another thing adding to the confusion over there is the CGI issue. As if no one understands compositing.
Jan Erik Hansen [January 4, 2014 - 10:37 pm]: :)
ArmunnRigh [January 4, 2014 - 10:37 pm]: @Jan Erik Hansen: I always hope one day to present something of interest that is new to you, Jan :)
Jan Erik Hansen [January 4, 2014 - 10:38 pm]: GOOD luck :-D
Tom-Dalpra [January 4, 2014 - 10:39 pm]: and now for something completely different
ArmunnRigh [January 4, 2014 - 10:39 pm]: Damn these norse shamans!
Jan Erik Hansen [January 4, 2014 - 10:39 pm]: U might thoe :-D
ArmunnRigh [January 4, 2014 - 10:40 pm]: I'll keep trying :P
Tom-Dalpra [January 4, 2014 - 10:40 pm]: haha Chris swore a lot. he was passionate. Jan Erik's too clever to think he knows everything :-)
khammad [January 4, 2014 - 10:40 pm]: @farcevalue: Exactly, CGI.
Videre Licet [January 4, 2014 - 10:40 pm]: I'm with you Sarah on the frustration of listening to them.
Anders-Lindman [January 4, 2014 - 10:41 pm]: This documentary is interesting, although the author believes the U.S. has nukes: Only the U S has Nukes Ralph Epperson -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fb14JcN7zTQ
ArmunnRigh [January 4, 2014 - 10:41 pm]: @Tom-Dalpra: I was kidding with Jan, he provides lots of juicy material for my mind
khammad [January 4, 2014 - 10:41 pm]: @Videre Licet: They go nowhere. Waste of time. I need to clear 911 garbage out of my brain, not add to it.
Videre Licet [January 4, 2014 - 10:42 pm]: @khammad: like the sandy hoax circles
khammad [January 4, 2014 - 10:42 pm]: @Videre Licet: hahhahaha
Tom-Dalpra [January 4, 2014 - 10:42 pm]: @ArmunnRigh: sure thing. @khammad-EXACTLY- keep it simple
Jan Erik Hansen [January 4, 2014 - 10:43 pm]: YES thats true. Learning is a lifelong work !
Videre Licet [January 4, 2014 - 10:43 pm]: @ArmunnRigh: one more round
farcevalue [January 4, 2014 - 10:43 pm]: A real video of a real building composited with another real video of a real plane, merged with another real video of a real fireball is still computer generated imagery.
ArmunnRigh [January 4, 2014 - 10:43 pm]: :P
farcevalue [January 4, 2014 - 10:44 pm]: (although the planes on 9/11 were cartoon shoddy animations, they could have tried harder)
Anders-Lindman [January 4, 2014 - 10:44 pm]: All planes on 9/11 computer graphics fakery.
Dustyash [January 4, 2014 - 10:45 pm]: these people like Fetzer are placed there I am afraid to keep people spinning until he admits that it is all fake I tune out I am sorry butt
Anders-Lindman [January 4, 2014 - 10:46 pm]: @farcevalue: The second WTC impact plane was inserted live (with 5 seconds) delay, and that's why it's just a crude 2D computer graphics silhouette.
khammad [January 4, 2014 - 10:46 pm]: @Dustyash: I think the proof is that he never moves forward to further define the mysteries:
Videre Licet [January 4, 2014 - 10:47 pm]: @Dustyash: what did you say dusty? i tuned out there...
ArmunnRigh [January 4, 2014 - 10:47 pm]: Chubbs: http://exposinginfragard.blogspot.ca/2012/07/detecting-disinformation-agents.html
Dustyash [January 4, 2014 - 10:47 pm]: Basically Fetzer is a joke but that is old news lets move on
khammad [January 4, 2014 - 10:48 pm]: Brian Stavely: Who killed Kennedy? Fetzer: Who didnt? What kind of crap answer is that? Did they all get together and kill him? Did they pull straws to kill him? Fetzer adds more confusion that answers.
Dustyash [January 4, 2014 - 10:48 pm]: go Rollo
Tom-Dalpra [January 4, 2014 - 10:49 pm]: yep - fetzers on the gatekeeping team. waste of time. I'd like to think it is a last desperate effort by the gatekeepers as Ab suggests.
Videre Licet [January 4, 2014 - 10:49 pm]: @Rollo: WITH YOU ON THAT~
Dustyash [January 4, 2014 - 10:49 pm]: yes yes yes for sure we all are on the road here
Videre Licet [January 4, 2014 - 10:50 pm]: @Dustyash: oN the way where?
Dustyash [January 4, 2014 - 10:51 pm]: I am nowhere I am a slave to death
Anders-Lindman [January 4, 2014 - 10:51 pm]: Jim Fetzer is pretty open-minded, but maybe he's just faking it. And he is too open-minded sometimes!
Rollo [January 4, 2014 - 10:51 pm]: I am here
ArmunnRigh [January 4, 2014 - 10:51 pm]: @Dustyash: Doctor Death is you Master?
Videre Licet [January 4, 2014 - 10:52 pm]: @Anders-Lindman: ?!
Tom-Dalpra [January 4, 2014 - 10:52 pm]: hark at you Rolls
Rollo [January 4, 2014 - 10:52 pm]: Hear me ok ? :)
Tom-Dalpra [January 4, 2014 - 10:52 pm]: You were gorgeous
ArmunnRigh [January 4, 2014 - 10:52 pm]: @Anders-Lindman: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTSA_sWGM44
Anders-Lindman [January 4, 2014 - 10:53 pm]: @Videre Licet: What?
Videre Licet [January 4, 2014 - 10:53 pm]: AHhahahahahahahaha
Videre Licet [January 4, 2014 - 10:53 pm]: ROFL - Fetzer...
Videre Licet [January 4, 2014 - 10:54 pm]: stil ROFL
Dustyash [January 4, 2014 - 10:55 pm]: Hollow Towers, Fetzer is not a Hollow Towers guy LOL
Anders-Lindman [January 4, 2014 - 10:55 pm]: Hologram?! Not likely: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVhhu5OjMf8
Jan Erik Hansen [January 4, 2014 - 10:56 pm]: He is a joke : JIM FESTER http://s.cghub.com/files/Image/172001-173000/172390/671_max.jpg
Anders-Lindman [January 4, 2014 - 10:57 pm]: Hollow towers explains the small pile of debris at ground zero.
Dustyash [January 4, 2014 - 10:57 pm]: Jan you are the best
Videre Licet [January 4, 2014 - 10:57 pm]: @Jan Erik Hansen: I love that portrait. It captures his very essence.
Jan Erik Hansen [January 4, 2014 - 10:58 pm]: YES !
columjaddica [January 4, 2014 - 10:58 pm]: I haven't listened to much Fetzer yet but I listened to some of the broadcasts from 2010 that were posted and he actually sounds a lot different over the three years. More bombastic now overall
Dustyash [January 4, 2014 - 10:58 pm]: It looks like Fetzer lol
Tom-Dalpra [January 4, 2014 - 10:58 pm]: go Rollo. get him up to scratch on that
Tom-Dalpra [January 4, 2014 - 10:59 pm]: sarah knows. i want to meet a woman child like that
Anders-Lindman [January 4, 2014 - 11:00 pm]: Check out the undisturbed clouds after the explosion :D: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S53IdBc-_Xc&t=1m20s
Jan Erik Hansen [January 4, 2014 - 11:02 pm]: FESTER is a part of an Counterintelligence CREW : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counterintelligence
Anders-Lindman [January 4, 2014 - 11:03 pm]: Also notice the large condensation ball caused by the explosion. That's called a Wilson cloud: shock wave can bring the air temperature BELOW its dew point -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condensation_cloud So much for millions of degrees heat radiation :D
Tom-Dalpra [January 4, 2014 - 11:04 pm]: he's a nice guy i think- he's just not the nuke thing yet
Tom-Dalpra [January 4, 2014 - 11:04 pm]: got the nuke thing
Videre Licet [January 4, 2014 - 11:04 pm]: I think it is great to hear from Dr. Death
Jan Erik Hansen [January 4, 2014 - 11:04 pm]: http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB177/02_psyop-jp-3-53.pdf
Videre Licet [January 4, 2014 - 11:05 pm]: I like hearing the analysis too
ArmunnRigh [January 4, 2014 - 11:05 pm]: Good thing it's not the reaping season
Videre Licet [January 4, 2014 - 11:05 pm]: @ArmunnRigh: i hear ya.
Anders-Lindman [January 4, 2014 - 11:06 pm]: x-ray is real, it's just high frequency light
Jan Erik Hansen [January 4, 2014 - 11:08 pm]: http://world-information.org/trd/11
khammad [January 4, 2014 - 11:08 pm]: The whole fear factor could have gotten started with the death of Madam Curie
Videre Licet [January 4, 2014 - 11:10 pm]: @Jan Erik Hansen: 8oCultural Counterintelligence8o
Anders-Lindman [January 4, 2014 - 11:11 pm]: Everything nuclear is highly suspicious. Seems like a blanket fear fakery to keep their hoax secret.
ab [January 4, 2014 - 11:11 pm]: Galen Winsor link http://youtu.be/ejCQrOTE-XA
Jan Erik Hansen [January 4, 2014 - 11:11 pm]: :important:
ab [January 4, 2014 - 11:11 pm]: nuclear=unclear
Videre Licet [January 4, 2014 - 11:12 pm]: 8o8o8o8)8o8o8o8o
khammad [January 4, 2014 - 11:13 pm]: Anyone remember this meme: When a "meltdown" meant that the nuclear core would burn through to our core and cause the earth to explode?
Anders-Lindman [January 4, 2014 - 11:13 pm]: I don't think the sun is fueled by fusion. Fusion is a hoax!!!
Anders-Lindman [January 4, 2014 - 11:15 pm]: Unexplained fact: "Why is the Sun's Corona (atmosphere layer) so much hotter than the Sun's surface?" -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unsolved_problems_in_physics
ArmunnRigh [January 4, 2014 - 11:15 pm]: @khammad: the idea that man can destroy life on Earth is a human-centric myth
Videre Licet [January 4, 2014 - 11:16 pm]: We are the 1%?
Videre Licet [January 4, 2014 - 11:17 pm]: (the wrong 1%)
Videre Licet [January 4, 2014 - 11:17 pm]: Shelling -- not shilling/selling
Jan Erik Hansen [January 4, 2014 - 11:17 pm]: More like the =.001%
Videre Licet [January 4, 2014 - 11:18 pm]: yeah --- really --- th0ugh I do feel calm around the crazy scared folk
Videre Licet [January 4, 2014 - 11:19 pm]: I liken my experience to winning a real lottery. Fakery kills.
Dustyash [January 4, 2014 - 11:21 pm]: A day that will live in fakery Franklin Roosevelt
Anders-Lindman [January 4, 2014 - 11:22 pm]: The Japanese government cooperated with the U.S. government to fake the atom bombs. This gave the Japanese government an excuse for surrender that they could tell their "Kamikaze" citizens.
Videre Licet [January 4, 2014 - 11:23 pm]: haven't studied Pearl Harbor. Who were the victims killed? Was there much written on them?
Videre Licet [January 4, 2014 - 11:23 pm]: any death certs?
Videre Licet [January 4, 2014 - 11:23 pm]: families? are they like the 911 families?
ArmunnRigh [January 4, 2014 - 11:23 pm]: @Videre Licet: why do you need to research? There's a movie made about it! Watch it! Shut up! B)
Dustyash [January 4, 2014 - 11:24 pm]: according to the Movie with Ben Affleck Pearl Harbor was a love story go figure hey
columjaddica [January 4, 2014 - 11:24 pm]: Were either of the characters in the Pearl Harbor movie based on any other vicsim? That movie sucked they just distracted with a love story
columjaddica [January 4, 2014 - 11:24 pm]: lol
Videre Licet [January 4, 2014 - 11:24 pm]: @ArmunnRigh: I was counting on you..who knows everything
ArmunnRigh [January 4, 2014 - 11:25 pm]: @Videre Licet: My name is not Jan Erik! :D
Videre Licet [January 4, 2014 - 11:25 pm]: @ArmunnRigh: Pardon... I had you confused with my magic 8 ball
Videre Licet [January 4, 2014 - 11:26 pm]: @ArmunnRigh: you guyz are my heros
Jan Erik Hansen [January 4, 2014 - 11:26 pm]: Are u shure ? Armunn
ArmunnRigh [January 4, 2014 - 11:26 pm]: SuperArmunn and SpiderJan
Videre Licet [January 4, 2014 - 11:27 pm]: 8)B)
columjaddica [January 4, 2014 - 11:28 pm]: Jews are fairly dominant in the media so it doesn't really relieve them by saying it was fakery. But the backgrounds of the people don't really matter, there are collaborators from all walks of life. Such is globalism?
columjaddica [January 4, 2014 - 11:28 pm]: There's a global group here today, the map of listeners is very broad now
Videre Licet [January 4, 2014 - 11:29 pm]: Roll0= Simon Shack #1 fan
Dustyash [January 4, 2014 - 11:29 pm]: nice to open up the simon shack story
Videre Licet [January 4, 2014 - 11:32 pm]: Hi my name is Videre. I'm a fake-a-holic...
ab [January 4, 2014 - 11:32 pm]: @Videre Licet: and he appears in the chat
Rollo [January 4, 2014 - 11:32 pm]: you're a sweet heart
Videre Licet [January 4, 2014 - 11:32 pm]: "Principles before personalities..."
Videre Licet [January 4, 2014 - 11:34 pm]: @Rollo: You are toooo:favorite:
Anders-Lindman [January 4, 2014 - 11:36 pm]: there are two types of nuclear power plants: 1) boiling water reactor, and 2) pressurized water reactor. I think the first type is for boiling off excess electricity, and the second type is water fuel cell reactors that actually produce electricity
simonshack [January 4, 2014 - 11:36 pm]: hi guys - what's up?
khammad [January 4, 2014 - 11:37 pm]: I think modern day Americans get their nuclear information from the Simpsons
Anders-Lindman [January 4, 2014 - 11:37 pm]: @simonshack: hi
Videre Licet [January 4, 2014 - 11:37 pm]: ... You lost me at 'RELIGION'
simonshack [January 4, 2014 - 11:38 pm]: Hoping you all had a great new year's eve. This 2014 is gonna be good, IMHO...
Jan Erik Hansen [January 4, 2014 - 11:38 pm]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_von_Humboldt
ab [January 4, 2014 - 11:39 pm]: @simonshack: we're yapping it up on the broadcast
simonshack [January 4, 2014 - 11:39 pm]: oh!
Videre Licet [January 4, 2014 - 11:39 pm]: @simonshack: Absolutely wonderful! Hear is to 2014!! Cheers!
ab [January 4, 2014 - 11:40 pm]: it's Saturday nite - and we're yapping it up
ArmunnRigh [January 4, 2014 - 11:40 pm]: Hear? Hear what?
elbuggo [January 4, 2014 - 11:40 pm]: Nuclear bombs is a religion... You need a strong faith to believe in that
Videre Licet [January 4, 2014 - 11:40 pm]: seeee how hard it is to spell "here" when you are trying to "hear"4
Dustyash [January 4, 2014 - 11:40 pm]: Religion is fake it has to be questioned
columjaddica [January 4, 2014 - 11:40 pm]: Where I used to live there was an area near a large coal plant and a nuke plant with massive warm water discharge. It is called "the hotspot" and you can fairly comfortably jetski there during the winter. During the summer it's like bathwater and although IO've only been there twice I avoided the water, seems like a breeding ground. This is on Lake Erie
ArmunnRigh [January 4, 2014 - 11:41 pm]: :D
Videre Licet [January 4, 2014 - 11:41 pm]: Where did that 4 come from... should not be there with out its 7
Anders-Lindman [January 4, 2014 - 11:41 pm]: Why are there hydrogen explosions in nuclear power plants? Because they are water fuel cell power plants! Original Meyer Water Fuel Cell c.1990 -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOGAkRkCWfA
Dustyash [January 4, 2014 - 11:41 pm]: I am glad I am not caught up in religion for a lack of a better word Thank God I am not into god
Videre Licet [January 4, 2014 - 11:42 pm]: HERE - we are -- back @ RELIGION
Videre Licet [January 4, 2014 - 11:42 pm]: @Dustyash: LOL
Videre Licet [January 4, 2014 - 11:43 pm]: (ask him about 9-11)
ab [January 4, 2014 - 11:43 pm]: http://fakeologist.com/2014/01/04/canadians-gone-south/
Videre Licet [January 4, 2014 - 11:43 pm]: (nice segway ab)
Videre Licet [January 4, 2014 - 11:44 pm]: (that's me)
Videre Licet [January 4, 2014 - 11:45 pm]: is that "loco"?
simonshack [January 4, 2014 - 11:45 pm]: The KO-KO-LA-LO quartet: http://www.cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?p=2388839#p2388839
simonshack [January 4, 2014 - 11:45 pm]: Enjoy!
Anders-Lindman [January 4, 2014 - 11:46 pm]: Anyone know when the One World Trade Center opening ceremony will take place? It will probably be some kind of significant numerology date.
Videre Licet [January 4, 2014 - 11:49 pm]: @ab: I looked up the balcony lady and her family. could only find the obituary - no other docs - no marriage - birth certs
simonshack [January 4, 2014 - 11:49 pm]: Anders: the One World trade Center will probably open the same day as a retarded satellite crashes into the tallest tower in Dubai.
Anders-Lindman [January 4, 2014 - 11:49 pm]: For SOME reason the shadow rulers use numerology. It could be just for planning, synchronization and communication purposes.
columjaddica [January 4, 2014 - 11:50 pm]: Twitter is really horrid for this, worse than facebook even
Anders-Lindman [January 4, 2014 - 11:50 pm]: @simonshack: Ha! Do you really believe satellites are fake?
Videre Licet [January 4, 2014 - 11:51 pm]: @ab: like the friends I found on FB
Videre Licet [January 4, 2014 - 11:51 pm]: All of my friends are like that
columjaddica [January 4, 2014 - 11:51 pm]: On Twitter they don't even hide it, PR people directly astroturf stories now
simonshack [January 4, 2014 - 11:51 pm]: I do - but that is retarded to believe - so i must be retarded.
columjaddica [January 4, 2014 - 11:52 pm]: They just happen to be at disasters making crap photos and videos for events that look fake
ArmunnRigh [January 4, 2014 - 11:52 pm]: stronzo :D
Videre Licet [January 4, 2014 - 11:52 pm]: Way to go SARAH!!!
simonshack [January 4, 2014 - 11:53 pm]: Anders: do you believe NASA went back and forth to the moon without a hitch 6 times between 1969 and 1972?
Jan Erik Hansen [January 4, 2014 - 11:53 pm]: Nice sarcasm there Simon :-D
Anders-Lindman [January 4, 2014 - 11:53 pm]: @simonshack: I respectfully disagree. But I agree with most of the other fakery claims, such as faked vicsims, planes, atom bomb hoax etc.
Videre Licet [January 4, 2014 - 11:54 pm]: that is like saying Canada is a dangerous place... people get killed there
Dustyash [January 4, 2014 - 11:54 pm]: No I like Dust ban
Videre Licet [January 4, 2014 - 11:55 pm]: They call it the DUST-BAN show
Dustyash [January 4, 2014 - 11:55 pm]: Dust Ban is fine
khammad [January 4, 2014 - 11:55 pm]: @Dustyash: Good, I like Dust Bann too!!!
columjaddica [January 4, 2014 - 11:55 pm]: There was another story from Mexico today where a foreigner was shot and killed by police. I wanna say an American
Dustyash [January 4, 2014 - 11:55 pm]: Dust Bin Dust Trash ash bash whatever
Videre Licet [January 4, 2014 - 11:56 pm]: @Dustyash: are you having the "after-party" party
Videre Licet [January 4, 2014 - 11:56 pm]: ?
Anders-Lindman [January 4, 2014 - 11:56 pm]: @simonshack: The Apollo program looks like a complete hoax to me. Compare for example the Chinese Chang'e 3 images of the moon landscape with NASA's faked black-and-white lunar landscapes with astronauts and flags etc in color.
Videre Licet [January 4, 2014 - 11:57 pm]: @columjaddica: I saw that too.
Dustyash [January 4, 2014 - 11:57 pm]: sure I hope Banazir is finished what he is doing then maybe
ab [January 4, 2014 - 11:57 pm]: http://fakeologist.com/2014/01/04/canadians-gone-south/
columjaddica [January 4, 2014 - 11:57 pm]: I'm having trouble finding it now. Maybe it was an update on an old case?
ab [January 4, 2014 - 11:57 pm]: https://www.facebook.com/shannon.a.guy
Videre Licet [January 4, 2014 - 11:57 pm]: A "tension-media-salad" --- lots of different stories to stress
ab [January 4, 2014 - 11:58 pm]: http://fakeologist.com/2013/10/18/more-loose-mexican-balconies/
Jan Erik Hansen [January 4, 2014 - 11:58 pm]: What about DUST CLOUD ?
simonshack [January 4, 2014 - 11:58 pm]: Anders: well, so if NASA fooled you with their manned missions to the moon - what makes you believe in man-made satellites?
Videre Licet [January 4, 2014 - 11:58 pm]: nay
Anders-Lindman [January 4, 2014 - 11:59 pm]: The Chinese Change's 3 mission looks real! And they have lunar landscapes in color! (Not like the NASA fake black-and-white lunar landscapes.)
Dustyash [January 4, 2014 - 11:59 pm]: Mars is freezing cold is it not
Anders-Lindman [January 4, 2014 - 11:59 pm]: @simonshack: You can see satellites moving across the night sky with your naked eyes!
Anders-Lindman [January 5, 2014 - 12:00 am]: Chinese space walks look fake as hell I agree! :D
columjaddica [January 5, 2014 - 12:00 am]: The paki test was pathetic. They rumbled a small mountain or pile of ricks and some dust came out.
simonshack [January 5, 2014 - 12:00 am]: Anders: these are near-Earth asteroids - and have always been flying by - ever since i was a kid, and LONG before...
Videre Licet [January 5, 2014 - 12:02 am]: basic answer - NO
Anders-Lindman [January 5, 2014 - 12:02 am]: @simonshack: The (non-geostationary) satellites have a very linear motion. Plus when changing the direction of a satellite dish, the signal changes.
columjaddica [January 5, 2014 - 12:03 am]: @ Anders-Lindman I noticed that too, it's easy to see if you look through a screen close to your face. Some of the dots move from cell to cell faster. But with alternative theories about the earth and the cosmos I suppose there could be other explanations
simonshack [January 5, 2014 - 12:04 am]: Anders: of course the signal changes: you are directing your dish out of the range of the skywaves bouncing on the ionosphere into your dish.
ArmunnRigh [January 5, 2014 - 12:05 am]: magic word: triangulation
Anders-Lindman [January 5, 2014 - 12:05 am]: For some reason there seems to be a problem with putting humans into space. The video I posted earlier described how early cosmonauts survived only about 30 minutes in space and then their signal went dead! Again and again! I think the video mentioned at least three separate such cases from only newspaper articles.
Dustyash [January 5, 2014 - 12:07 am]: On average, the distance to Mars from Earth is 140 million miles (225 million km). that is unbelieveable it would be a million degrees below freezing bloody cold
Anders-Lindman [January 5, 2014 - 12:07 am]: @simonshack: You can only bounce radio signals of lower frequencies on the atmosphere and only when there are special conditions. Satellites use much higher frequency for the radio signals.
Dustyash [January 5, 2014 - 12:07 am]: ridiculas
Dustyash [January 5, 2014 - 12:08 am]: hey Banazir cheers
Banazir Galbasi [January 5, 2014 - 12:09 am]: Hi guys
Banazir Galbasi [January 5, 2014 - 12:09 am]: 4th grade maybe
Anders-Lindman [January 5, 2014 - 12:09 am]: The "mirror" on the moon is just a bright spot of rocks. I read an article that said that the reflected light was much weaker than expected when some grade students or some people like that did an experiment.
Dustyash [January 5, 2014 - 12:09 am]: How did they power this stuff on the moon effed up in a big way
simonshack [January 5, 2014 - 12:09 am]: Anders: HAARP does the trick. Just go and read their official website.
Dustyash [January 5, 2014 - 12:09 am]: hey buddy
Anders-Lindman [January 5, 2014 - 12:10 am]: @simonshack: Isn't HAARP using like really low frequencies?
Anders-Lindman [January 5, 2014 - 12:11 am]: Yes, rockets work in space of course! It's the repulsion effect or what's it called.
Banazir Galbasi [January 5, 2014 - 12:11 am]: will a firecracker light up in a vacuum?
Dustyash [January 5, 2014 - 12:11 am]: we have a debate?
Anders-Lindman [January 5, 2014 - 12:13 am]: Chang'e 3 image (real!): http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/wwfuture/624_351/images/live/p0/1p/6g/p01p6gvj.jpg
Banazir Galbasi [January 5, 2014 - 12:13 am]: will a balloon filled with its air escaping fly around in a vacuum?
Anders-Lindman [January 5, 2014 - 12:14 am]: Here is another image with less color, yet still a tan-like color: http://www.astronautinews.it/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Yutu_rover_large-620x455.jpg
Dustyash [January 5, 2014 - 12:14 am]: that is true
Dustyash [January 5, 2014 - 12:14 am]: banazir
Banazir Galbasi [January 5, 2014 - 12:14 am]: does nasa not have the facilities to prove how things work in a vacuum?
simonshack [January 5, 2014 - 12:15 am]: Anders: the repulsion effect is what happens to me when I read silly stuff.
Anders-Lindman [January 5, 2014 - 12:15 am]: Here is a FAKE black-and-white NASA lunar landscape: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b3/John_W._Young_on_the_Moon.jpg
khammad [January 5, 2014 - 12:27 am]: http://junkscience.com/2011/09/20/shocker-nobel-prize-winner-lied-about-radiation-danger-data-suppression-abetted-rise-of-linear-no-threshold-model/
Banazir Galbasi [January 5, 2014 - 12:37 am]: Damn, I always miss the space episodes!
wanda [January 5, 2014 - 2:53 am]: Here's a video that proves the Giffords shooting is a fake: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Anyjgv8LmVQ
wanda [January 5, 2014 - 2:58 am]: ^^^ not Dallas Gold Bug. She is just another politician making money off the dent in the side of her head that was there before the shooting... another psychopath.
wanda [January 5, 2014 - 2:59 am]: I didn't say that right... but you get the message.
DoctorDeath [January 5, 2014 - 3:06 am]: Along these lines, what do you guys think about the theory that "Obama" actually played one of the "
DoctorDeath [January 5, 2014 - 3:07 am]: Along these lines, what do you guys think about the theory that "Obama" actually played one of the "Osama" characters - see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9_lpaeCo1o
DoctorDeath [January 5, 2014 - 3:09 am]: It seems clear that Obama is an invented character, and perhaps before playing the Obama character he played Osama
PeterShea [January 5, 2014 - 3:39 am]: yes Obama=Osama the only difference in letters is b.s. inside joke.
PeterShea [January 5, 2014 - 3:48 am]: @wanda...gabby giffords or GG shot thru the head. G is the freemason's letter which replaced H as the 7th letter. when the hoax is exposed (as it was designed eventually to be), her husband and his NASA employers are also exposed. the old game is up.
PeterShea [January 5, 2014 - 3:58 am]: what's in a name? well, everything really. I AM THE WITNESS TO THEIR BIRTH CERTIFICATE FRAUD. everytime you use your name you consent to fraud by representing (as a living lawful flesh and blood human being) a dead fictional legal entity, created with your birth certificate. this is the only character all of legality can have dealings with and sway over. you are FREE. disown your legal name.
PeterShea [January 5, 2014 - 4:20 am]: the old game is up see the deep cracks all over it's face
sure it was rough as it traced out that road taken to this
now special place of love and grace brace for the new embrace
PeterShea [January 5, 2014 - 4:21 am]: :favorite: to all.
Tom-Dalpra [January 5, 2014 - 8:07 am]: I want to delete my post in reply to ep83 and I couldn't. no worries but mildly embarrassing.
Tom-Dalpra [January 5, 2014 - 8:07 am]: And :favorite: to you Peter!
ab [January 5, 2014 - 10:30 am]: @Tom-Dalpra: just request deletion and I'll delete it