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{\*\generator Msftedit 5.41.21.2510;}\viewkind4\uc1\pard\sa200\sl276\slmult1\lang9\f0\fs22 UNreal [August 27, 2014 - 9:11 am]: alternative media radioshow Red Ice Creations has been censored from iTunes, Windows phones and xBox,,, http://www.redicecreations.com/article.php?id=31463\par
ab [August 27, 2014 - 9:15 am]: @UNreal: good publicity!\par
UNreal [August 27, 2014 - 10:55 am]: @ab: believe it could be a bit of both? don't think advocacy against multiculturalism is very popular, nor the critcism of the holycost ?\par
UNreal [August 27, 2014 - 10:57 am]: would like RedIce Radio to have you @ simon on a show for a discussion on media-fakery !\par
ab [August 27, 2014 - 11:09 am]: @UNreal: maybe I'll have Henrik on?\par
UNreal [August 27, 2014 - 11:43 am]: @ab: that would be great to have Henrik on Fakeologist, he normally likes to be invited to other peoples shows as i remember !\par
UNreal [August 27, 2014 - 11:47 am]: maybe propose to have his take on the censorship of redice & the media manipulation in general ?\par
ab [August 27, 2014 - 1:05 pm]: new audiochat.fakeologist.com\par
ab [August 27, 2014 - 1:06 pm]: the ratings system is disabled for now until we get past this little storm.\par
I.D. Kanspier [August 27, 2014 - 3:49 pm]: would love to hear henrik!\par
Videre Licet [August 27, 2014 - 4:47 pm]: @simonshack: great assessment of EE on ISS http://www.cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?t=720&p=2391577#wrap\par
simonshack [August 27, 2014 - 5:37 pm]: @videre licet: Thanks - I think we really need to weed out the trolls from our lives. They are disruptive - and serve no good common cause.\par
simonshack [August 27, 2014 - 6:09 pm]: Have you ever yearned to socialize with a psyopticon - or to befriend an EVIL Edna? Is it not quite natural that sites such as Fakeologist and Cluesforum get targeted by such obvious cointelpro clowns?\par
simonshack [August 27, 2014 - 6:10 pm]: Where else would such cointelpro clowns be directed to operate?\par
simonshack [August 27, 2014 - 6:16 pm]: The cointelpro clowns need to earn their living - so they will always be found infiltrating their 'enemies' - i.e. those flying right over the target (such as Cluesforum and Fakeologist).\par
smj [August 27, 2014 - 6:18 pm]: i must say the shills at cluesforum and fakeologist are much more talented than their counterparts over on the real deal.\par
simonshack [August 27, 2014 - 6:20 pm]: Of course, those clowns will initially pose as "friendly and supportive to the cause" - only to - gradually - inject doubts and create insider-fighting within the communities they've been assigned to sabotage.\par
simonshack [August 27, 2014 - 6:22 pm]: Hi smj ! Let me tell you straight away that you're my favorite researcher on this site. I hope you won't mind me seeing "plagiarizing" some of your great finds - on Cluesforum!\par
simonshack [August 27, 2014 - 6:24 pm]: I will always give you due credit though - what with the Cosmos Club and the "Jack" Marvel Parsons clown - and suchlike.\par
simonshack [August 27, 2014 - 6:29 pm]: Imagine that: the guy credited with inventing rocketry (Marvel "Jack" Parsons) was an occultist and Thelema follower of that Aleister Crowley clown...\par
simonshack [August 27, 2014 - 6:32 pm]: He's even credited of having founded "JPL" (the Jet Propulsion Laboratory) !\par
simonshack [August 27, 2014 - 6:33 pm]: ...or is it the Jack Parsons Laboratory?...\par
smj [August 27, 2014 - 6:35 pm]: @simon thanks; and that would be jack parson's laboratory. please use anything i do anywhere you please. like i said before it's an honor.\par
simonshack [August 27, 2014 - 6:39 pm]: Cool ! Thanks for saying so. Being what I am (a considerate individual), I sometimes cringe at being suspected of leeching on other people's research efforts. Smj, I'd be honored if you joined Cluesforum - if you haven't done so already.\par
smj [August 27, 2014 - 6:58 pm]: @ simon. i've never joined cluesform because of my crude posting skills. i didn't want to mess up the aesthetic of your site, but i suppose it's past time for me join- so i reckon i will.\par
Banazir Galbasi [August 27, 2014 - 8:19 pm]: "I think we really need to weed out the trolls from our lives." @Simon Shack We tried to do this the other day but no one was interested in our little 'drama'. Why the change of heart?\par
simonshack [August 27, 2014 - 8:23 pm]: @banazir - There has never been any "change of heart" from my side. I have just been watching.\par
Videre Licet [August 27, 2014 - 8:23 pm]: @Banazir Galbasi: agreed. I don't think the issue was so much with the troll as much as it was with the moderator\par
simonshack [August 27, 2014 - 8:26 pm]: Would it have been appropriate for me to warn you about this PSYOPticon / Evil Edna character? I mean, what exactly am I supposed to do in thjis world?\par
simonshack [August 27, 2014 - 8:28 pm]: Am i supposed to both research the hoaxes of this world AND warn other people from those who want to crush that research?\par
Videre Licet [August 27, 2014 - 8:29 pm]: @simonshack: why not call it as you see it? why skip this detail in all the fakery?\par
simonshack [August 27, 2014 - 8:30 pm]: @videre - What do you mean?\par
Videre Licet [August 27, 2014 - 8:31 pm]: @simonshack: i don't think we're asking you to research shill fakery... From discussions with others - disappointment with moderating them was the issue. - Not on your part.\par
khammad [August 27, 2014 - 8:33 pm]: @simonshack: WWSS. What Would Simon Say? We ask ourselves this quite often. So often in fact we are thinking of making those rubber bracelets with WWSS on them.\par
Videre Licet [August 27, 2014 - 8:34 pm]: @khammad: LOL! Or how about "Simon Says..."\par
simonshack [August 27, 2014 - 8:35 pm]: As it is, I have spent FAR too many hours of my life discussing about the shills attacking my humble efforts to wake up people to the fakery. http://cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=732&p=2389606&hilit=shills#p2389606\par
khammad [August 27, 2014 - 8:39 pm]: I'm working on a pamphlet 'How To Spot A Shill". So we won't have to keep going in circles about this.\par
Banazir Galbasi [August 27, 2014 - 8:39 pm]: Well it was more about those of us who spotted the guy were warning you and everyone else. We were trying to protect our favorite sites from a specific shill and it seemed to fall on deaf ears. Only trying to help.\par
Videre Licet [August 27, 2014 - 8:39 pm]: @Banazir Galbasi: :favorite:\par
simonshack [August 27, 2014 - 8:40 pm]: However - don't get me wrong. I've enjoyed every minute of it! And I've strongly enjoyed seeing folks like you (all of the sincere Fakeologist members) joining up to it.\par
simonshack [August 27, 2014 - 8:42 pm]: What else could I say? I love you all.\par
Videre Licet [August 27, 2014 - 8:43 pm]: @simonshack: ok... no more fakery. LOL!\par
Videre Licet [August 27, 2014 - 8:43 pm]: O:-D\par
simonshack [August 27, 2014 - 8:45 pm]: I'm actually recording a song right now which has this line: "Please. please, Stop the Fakeryyyy !"\par
Videre Licet [August 27, 2014 - 8:46 pm]: @simonshack: maybe add, "moderate the shillery..."\par
simonshack [August 27, 2014 - 8:46 pm]: Haha - yes, and it rhymes nicely!\par
Videre Licet [August 27, 2014 - 8:47 pm]: @simonshack: lol!\par
Banazir Galbasi [August 27, 2014 - 8:47 pm]: I must add your research is not in question, you are one of the most prolific and determined I've ever seen. For that I will forever be indebted to you.\par
Videre Licet [August 27, 2014 - 8:47 pm]: @Banazir Galbasi: ditto\par
Tom-Dalpra [August 27, 2014 - 8:47 pm]: Yes on that here too\par
Videre Licet [August 27, 2014 - 8:48 pm]: @Tom-Dalpra: oh good... a double ditto~\par
simonshack [August 27, 2014 - 8:49 pm]: Great. So please understand that this area of research will ALWAYS be infiltrated (by Nutwork clowns).\par
Tom-Dalpra [August 27, 2014 - 8:49 pm]: well, actually on that indebted to Simons great research\par
Tom-Dalpra [August 27, 2014 - 8:50 pm]: The audios made it personal\par
Videre Licet [August 27, 2014 - 8:50 pm]: :x\par
simonshack [August 27, 2014 - 8:51 pm]: Hi Tom! Which audios?\par
Tom-Dalpra [August 27, 2014 - 8:51 pm]: The audiochat Simon.\par
Videre Licet [August 27, 2014 - 8:52 pm]: :x New Rule: See a shill... Say it\par
Tom-Dalpra [August 27, 2014 - 8:52 pm]: Peter confronted Psyopticon and it could have felt nasty to some\par
Tom-Dalpra [August 27, 2014 - 8:53 pm]: ISorry. I'm not being clear\par
simonshack [August 27, 2014 - 8:54 pm]: Oh - I see. Well, it's too bad, isn't it? To let a clown ruin the good vibes which Ab has managed to create here - with his great radio shows.\par
Tom-Dalpra [August 27, 2014 - 8:54 pm]: It got very intense and obvious one night and nothing was done\par
Tom-Dalpra [August 27, 2014 - 8:54 pm]: but maybe it wasn't obvious to ab\par
Tom-Dalpra [August 27, 2014 - 8:55 pm]: Yes there were good vibes and I sincerely hope they remain\par
Rubulisk [August 27, 2014 - 8:56 pm]: Hey are people talking on here right now?\par
simonshack [August 27, 2014 - 8:56 pm]: Do you have the slightest idea of what I (and Hoi) have been going through in this last half-decade (ever since we published Cluesforim in 2009)?\par
Tom-Dalpra [August 27, 2014 - 8:56 pm]: no\par
Videre Licet [August 27, 2014 - 8:57 pm]: We are only human... but as our research continues - so does our skill in identifying the "fakery"... beware faux friends!!!\par
Tom-Dalpra [August 27, 2014 - 8:57 pm]: I fully appreciate it Simon and have no issue with you. Thankyou for everything\par
Rubulisk [August 27, 2014 - 8:58 pm]: Any of you guys want to jump on the audio chat?\par
Videre Licet [August 27, 2014 - 8:58 pm]: :D:P:O>:-D:?:D:P>:-D:|8o\par
simonshack [August 27, 2014 - 8:58 pm]: Well - we've had a constant flow of trolls registering to Cluesforum. We have had to deal with them. And so we have.\par
Tom-Dalpra [August 27, 2014 - 8:59 pm]: And they're mind fuckers. You boys have been very cool\par
Videre Licet [August 27, 2014 - 8:59 pm]: @simonshack: maybe ab might be interesting in a show to identify common shill behaviour\par
Videre Licet [August 27, 2014 - 9:00 pm]: "interested in a show"\par
Dustyash [August 27, 2014 - 9:01 pm]: So what Banazir pointed out and the way the response we got from psyopticon this not conclusive enough evidence I am a little confused\par
simonshack [August 27, 2014 - 9:01 pm]: @tom dalpra: Yes. i think we've been acting pretty cool.\par
Videre Licet [August 27, 2014 - 9:02 pm]: Oh my!! An organic gathering! It must be our "psy(op)chic" powers!!!\par
Videre Licet [August 27, 2014 - 9:02 pm]: gang's all here!!!\par
JohnnyClues [August 27, 2014 - 9:03 pm]: @Videre Licet: SNAP! OH no you didn't! lol\par
Videre Licet [August 27, 2014 - 9:03 pm]: oh... except for our fearless moderator!\par
Videre Licet [August 27, 2014 - 9:03 pm]: (details...)\par
simonshack [August 27, 2014 - 9:03 pm]: @Dustyash; Don't be confused now. Everything is fine - imho.\par
Rubulisk [August 27, 2014 - 9:03 pm]: hah\par
simonshack [August 27, 2014 - 9:04 pm]: Rubulisk!\par
Rubulisk [August 27, 2014 - 9:05 pm]: It is I\par
Videre Licet [August 27, 2014 - 9:05 pm]: (old friends?)\par
Tom-Dalpra [August 27, 2014 - 9:06 pm]: join hands - ''should old aquaintance etc''\par
Rubulisk [August 27, 2014 - 9:06 pm]: Nope but I do have an appreciation for the work Simon has done.\par
ab [August 27, 2014 - 9:07 pm]: welcome to the audiochat...come join in all for a quickie talk\par
Videre Licet [August 27, 2014 - 9:07 pm]: @Tom-Dalpra: cooom-bye-ya!!\par
ab [August 27, 2014 - 9:07 pm]: @Videre Licet: I take a lot of abuse from you!\par
simonshack [August 27, 2014 - 9:08 pm]: See, ANYONE can register here - even "Rubulisk"! :P\par
Tom-Dalpra [August 27, 2014 - 9:08 pm]: haha\par
Videre Licet [August 27, 2014 - 9:08 pm]: @ab: well at least you can't say I'm fake. :-*\par
simonshack [August 27, 2014 - 9:08 pm]: Have you ever heard from Rubulisk before?\par
ab [August 27, 2014 - 9:08 pm]: We're in the audiochat now...waiting for the gang here to come over\par
Tom-Dalpra [August 27, 2014 - 9:08 pm]: join hands\par
Rubulisk [August 27, 2014 - 9:08 pm]: Its been my internet handle for a long long time, mostly for games and such.\par
simonshack [August 27, 2014 - 9:09 pm]: Or am I just being mean?\par
Videre Licet [August 27, 2014 - 9:09 pm]: @ab: I have found a surgeon yet. ahahahaha\par
ab [August 27, 2014 - 9:09 pm]: @Videre Licet: come over and chat. You're confusing me\par
simonshack [August 27, 2014 - 9:11 pm]: Off to bed now. G'night all!\par
Banazir Galbasi [August 27, 2014 - 9:11 pm]: I can't talk right now, my voice modulator is in for repairs... :P\par
ab [August 27, 2014 - 9:12 pm]: @simonshack: sleep tight! Dreams of the ISS drones overhead!\par
Videre Licet [August 27, 2014 - 9:12 pm]: @simonshack: sweet dreams simon!\par
Videre Licet [August 27, 2014 - 9:12 pm]: @Banazir Galbasi: lol!\par
JohnnyClues [August 27, 2014 - 9:12 pm]: @Banazir Galbasi: my voice modulator is stuck on chipmunk right now :-(\par
Tom-Dalpra [August 27, 2014 - 9:13 pm]: Cheers Simon .\par
Videre Licet [August 27, 2014 - 9:13 pm]: I don't have it on this computer. will check in on my phone in a few.\par
Videre Licet [August 27, 2014 - 9:13 pm]: @Tom-Dalpra: hey Tom - have you figured out teamspeak?\par
Videre Licet [August 27, 2014 - 9:13 pm]: @Tom-Dalpra: want some help?\par
Rollo [August 27, 2014 - 9:14 pm]: Mines stuck too....I sound like a stupid Assie\par
simonshack [August 27, 2014 - 9:14 pm]: Oh wait, before I turn in... please let me submit this post for your thoughts: http://cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?p=2391584#p2391584\par
Tom-Dalpra [August 27, 2014 - 9:14 pm]: ok I'll go there\par
Rollo [August 27, 2014 - 9:14 pm]: Take 2.......Aussie\par
JohnnyClues [August 27, 2014 - 9:15 pm]: @Rollo: LOL\par
Rollo [August 27, 2014 - 9:15 pm]: cheers Johnny...\par
JohnnyClues [August 27, 2014 - 9:16 pm]: @Rollo: right back atcha slick!\par
Rollo [August 27, 2014 - 9:16 pm]: enjoy that audio?\par
Banazir Galbasi [August 27, 2014 - 9:17 pm]: an Assie of an Aussie, you said it.\par
Rollo [August 27, 2014 - 9:17 pm]: heh\par
Videre Licet [August 27, 2014 - 9:18 pm]: @Tom-Dalpra: maybe plug your mic plug in the other port...\par
Videre Licet [August 27, 2014 - 9:19 pm]: @Tom-Dalpra: I can help on Teamviewer if you you want\par
Videre Licet [August 27, 2014 - 9:19 pm]: or skype\par
JohnnyClues [August 27, 2014 - 9:26 pm]: @Rollo: haven't listen to it yet, but will later tonight,.....still working on my "psychotron" voice here :P\par
Rollo [August 27, 2014 - 9:29 pm]: heheh enjoy it.....Im not into the fakeologist politics thing.....voice morphing way too much trouble\par
JohnnyClues [August 27, 2014 - 9:33 pm]: @Rollo: yea, welll voice morphing is quite lame....but I see why since sounds like a withered old fart!\par
Hoi Polloi [August 27, 2014 - 9:36 pm]: @Banazir: I guess they have been watching us and they figured out how to annoy the 'regulars' while not annoying Clues Forum rules; if so, this was undoubtedly an attempt to divide Fakeologists from Clues mods. I guess we should now expect more shills with strategy like it. Thanks for trying to warn us and sorry for the problems our ignorance caused.\par
Hoi Polloi [August 27, 2014 - 9:36 pm]: Sincere apologies.\par
Banazir Galbasi [August 27, 2014 - 10:17 pm]: Aww, thanks man. So where does that leave our dear friend for the moment? And what was the final straw that broke the camels back after all the evidence was piling up against him?\par
Videre Licet [August 27, 2014 - 10:18 pm]: @Banazir Galbasi: great question!\par
khammad [August 28, 2014 - 2:36 am]: Hahaha, all those people on the site and not chatting. Were they here to see the shill show? Videre, that crazy cool teaming up with you. Felt like wonder twin powers activate. Form of . . . . . . . Shill hunter\par
Hoi Polloi [August 28, 2014 - 9:55 am]: To be honest about my personal experience Banazir, the difference between a shill and a disruptor is a hair's breadth. And the shills hide in that confusion. The 'final straw' to prove 'shill' to me never came, but to Simon it has.\par
Tom-Dalpra [August 28, 2014 - 10:38 am]: I'm happy enough, right now, with the resolution and thanks for the communication Hoi.\par
Tom-Dalpra [August 28, 2014 - 10:38 am]: For what it's worth!\par
Tom-Dalpra [August 28, 2014 - 10:40 am]: My opinion -that is - not your communication! :o)\par
ab [August 28, 2014 - 11:41 am]: @Hoi Polloi: I tend to agree with you. For the sake of harmony, it appears the majority wanted him gone. I don't want to call it a lynching, but I do value the many members who cried out, all who I have "known" longer.\par
ab [August 28, 2014 - 11:41 am]: new audiochat up at audiochat.fakeologist.com, the audiochat main page. I value new member Rubulisk's information.\par
Carole Thomas [August 28, 2014 - 12:28 pm]: for someone who says he doesn't "follow" fakeologist, M seems remarkably well informed- even mentions Moreab.:)\par
Shady Pica [August 28, 2014 - 12:56 pm]: I listened to Markus' show this week. Not sure what his beef is with this site. Anyway after listening, what I found peculiar was...\par
Tom-Dalpra [August 28, 2014 - 12:56 pm]: Who's M Cazza?\par
Shady Pica [August 28, 2014 - 12:57 pm]: the guy named jai or jye? His voice sounded robotic and he reminded me of the other British guy with anger issues\par
Tom-Dalpra [August 28, 2014 - 1:03 pm]: wouldn't be surprised :)\par
Shady Pica [August 28, 2014 - 1:05 pm]: Unfortunate because it detracts from the reason why I visit here\par
Carole Thomas [August 28, 2014 - 1:09 pm]: sorry, Tom - I meant Markus. listened to the latest call with Chris and Markus sounded kinda sad that he doesn't have many buddies:-)\par
Carole Thomas [August 28, 2014 - 1:10 pm]: But I agree Shady- it is a distraction\par
Shady Pica [August 28, 2014 - 1:11 pm]: Yes indeed. Hope you are doing well Carole.\par
Carole Thomas [August 28, 2014 - 1:12 pm]: hangin on in there! life has been quite busy recently so haven't had much time for posting. And yourself?\par
Carole Thomas [August 28, 2014 - 1:14 pm]: I amreally enjoying the new quiz shows here at fakeologist.\par
Shady Pica [August 28, 2014 - 1:14 pm]: Good for the most part. I just go a little crazy when people start talking about Isis and how much of a threat they are. Just about everyone I talk to believes the official story\par
Shady Pica [August 28, 2014 - 1:14 pm]: the quizzes are cool\par
Carole Thomas [August 28, 2014 - 1:16 pm]: Know what you mean. I have more or less given up trying - don't want to be that crazy, mad woman all the time. one picks one's battles:D\par
Shady Pica [August 28, 2014 - 1:17 pm]: Yeah. You're right. :D\par
Tom-Dalpra [August 28, 2014 - 1:18 pm]: Yep to that here too.\par
Carole Thomas [August 28, 2014 - 1:19 pm]: I think the NoAgenda guys are doing a good job ( for the most part) of deconstructing the Isis news etc. It's good therapy to hear non-fakeologists "getting there".\par
Carole Thomas [August 28, 2014 - 1:20 pm]: Hi Tom - congrats on working out the audiochat.\par
Shady Pica [August 28, 2014 - 1:20 pm]: If you just use your brain and watch the beheading video you can tell it'd fake. It's a little better than the Nicholas berg video because it fades out when you should she blood squirting everywhere\par
Carole Thomas [August 28, 2014 - 1:20 pm]: i still get the message network not accessible!\par
Tom-Dalpra [August 28, 2014 - 1:21 pm]: haha. You know I'd set that up in two minutes right at the start. The only reason I couldn't get on was my microphone needed unplugging and plugging back in.\par
Carole Thomas [August 28, 2014 - 1:22 pm]: Yeah - the " beheading" is ridiculous. Almost as ridiculous, in fact, as the reactions of the "family members".\par
Tom-Dalpra [August 28, 2014 - 1:23 pm]: yeh, the brother and sister appear filled with un-stoppable joy.\par
Carole Thomas [August 28, 2014 - 1:23 pm]: @Tom I have things set up too but just can't access the server.\par
Carole Thomas [August 28, 2014 - 1:24 pm]: The picture falling down was priceless too. :P\par
Tom-Dalpra [August 28, 2014 - 1:26 pm]: mmm maybe it's a local thing? I dunno. I wasn't that comfortable using it last night though it was good to talk to ab. And say hi to K and Videre.\par
Shady Pica [August 28, 2014 - 1:27 pm]: What do you need to do the audio chat?\par
Tom-Dalpra [August 28, 2014 - 1:27 pm]: If they weren't married I'd definitely try to marry both of them\par
Tom-Dalpra [August 28, 2014 - 1:27 pm]: at the same time, obviosly\par
Shady Pica [August 28, 2014 - 1:28 pm]: Who k and videre?\par
Carole Thomas [August 28, 2014 - 1:28 pm]: haven't listened yet - hope everyone can move on. i'm missing the podchildren.\par
Tom-Dalpra [August 28, 2014 - 1:28 pm]: download teamspeak- link at top of page. It's pretty easy\par
Tom-Dalpra [August 28, 2014 - 1:28 pm]: says I!\par
Shady Pica [August 28, 2014 - 1:28 pm]: Do you need a microphone?\par
Tom-Dalpra [August 28, 2014 - 1:29 pm]: Headset easiest\par
Tom-Dalpra [August 28, 2014 - 1:29 pm]: any mic will do\par
Carole Thomas [August 28, 2014 - 1:29 pm]: Shady, it's all explained in the audiochat section that you access by clicking it at top of forum.\par
Tom-Dalpra [August 28, 2014 - 1:29 pm]: yes carole\par
Shady Pica [August 28, 2014 - 1:29 pm]: ok. I will try and get in as soon as my wife and kids allow\par
Tom-Dalpra [August 28, 2014 - 1:30 pm]: get them on, make it a family show\par
Shady Pica [August 28, 2014 - 1:30 pm]: Haha\par
Carole Thomas [August 28, 2014 - 1:30 pm]: yes, it's the same with me. husband, two kids and a dog! It's hard to find a quiet gap.\par
Shady Pica [August 28, 2014 - 1:30 pm]: my wife is scared. She thinks the govt is watching me\par
Shady Pica [August 28, 2014 - 1:30 pm]: haha\par
Carole Thomas [August 28, 2014 - 1:31 pm]: maybe they will come and round us all up and put us to live on a fakeologist farm together:)\par
Tom-Dalpra [August 28, 2014 - 1:32 pm]: why don't they give us part of the world. Fence it off. You could call it 'Real World'\par
Tom-Dalpra [August 28, 2014 - 1:32 pm]: no bullshit at all\par
Carole Thomas [August 28, 2014 - 1:32 pm]: of course there would be some embedded shills and it would end up being like The Mole with Anderson Cooper\par
Tom-Dalpra [August 28, 2014 - 1:33 pm]: every one in a permanent state of giving eachother oral sex and money\par
Tom-Dalpra [August 28, 2014 - 1:33 pm]: sorry\par
Shady Pica [August 28, 2014 - 1:33 pm]: haha. Like the real world idea\par
Tom-Dalpra [August 28, 2014 - 1:34 pm]: there were 15 of us here when I joined. psyopticon was here then. he was like an old 'friend' to me\par
Hoi Polloi [August 28, 2014 - 1:34 pm]: re: real world idea, probably end up being like the 'outside world' in Brave New World 8o\par
Carole Thomas [August 28, 2014 - 1:35 pm]: There are psychopaths in the real world too and they are just as hard to detect.\par
Shady Pica [August 28, 2014 - 1:36 pm]: @hoi. Well then let's mix the idea if your thoughts are correct.\par
Shady Pica [August 28, 2014 - 1:36 pm]: Nix I meant\par
Carole Thomas [August 28, 2014 - 1:36 pm]: It's always disturbing because these psycopaths know how to suck out all human goodness.\par
Shady Pica [August 28, 2014 - 1:37 pm]: going back to my slave job.. peace\par
Carole Thomas [August 28, 2014 - 1:38 pm]: See you later, Shady.\par
Carole Thomas [August 28, 2014 - 1:40 pm]: ^Psychopaths - I know Hoi is strict about spelling:-)\par
Tom-Dalpra [August 28, 2014 - 1:42 pm]: I sometimes think we need to create imaginary bridges by suspending our disbelief to navigate this maze\par
Tom-Dalpra [August 28, 2014 - 1:44 pm]: Nice to see you drop in Carole. Don't be a stranger.\par
Carole Thomas [August 28, 2014 - 1:45 pm]: I was on holiday for a few weeks and when I came back this drama was going on a full blast.\par
Carole Thomas [August 28, 2014 - 1:47 pm]: imaginary bridges - like that:)\par
Carole Thomas [August 28, 2014 - 1:49 pm]: Have to be off now - dog needs a walk. looking forward to hearing you on the audiochat upload later, Tom. Bye for now.\par
Tom-Dalpra [August 28, 2014 - 1:50 pm]: Cheers Carole.\par
Tom-Dalpra [August 28, 2014 - 1:52 pm]: @Hoi: Indeed! ( missed that)\par
columjaddica [August 28, 2014 - 5:15 pm]: Anybody see this sim/actor comparison of Foley's sister and Lanza's classmate? I didn't spend too much time verifying it but damn that's a good one. https://i.imgur.com/TXA7fpv.jpg\par
Tom-Dalpra [August 28, 2014 - 7:02 pm]: You holding court on noisy chat K?\par
Tom-Dalpra [August 28, 2014 - 7:15 pm]: psyopticon's thumbnail. The cat bag. Keeping the cat AS the bag ,perhaps, his mission. If the cat's the bag, how can you let it out of itself?\par
smj [August 28, 2014 - 7:15 pm]: in the immortal words of critical mass-- "children & academics". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEfKq-pQBcc\par
Tom-Dalpra [August 28, 2014 - 7:19 pm]: haha nice triangles '' let Sir Isaac do his work'' yeh\par
smj [August 28, 2014 - 7:26 pm]: watch the old atom smasher himself, e o lawrence, as he "demonstrates the cyclotron concept". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cutKuFxeXmQ\par
khammad [August 28, 2014 - 7:31 pm]: Kham Radio is started in the Live Stream.\par
Tom-Dalpra [August 28, 2014 - 7:32 pm]: applause\par
Tom-Dalpra [August 28, 2014 - 7:33 pm]: never got to listen on that 3 stream yet not sure it works?\par
delcroix [August 28, 2014 - 7:34 pm]: http://k007.kiwi6.com/hotlink/kroymp9p37/could_it_be.jpg could it be ? :O\par
Tom-Dalpra [August 28, 2014 - 7:37 pm]: stream works :-)\par
delcroix [August 28, 2014 - 7:39 pm]: :) hi tom e.t al. working here too\par
delcroix [August 28, 2014 - 7:40 pm]: #et. al. lol\par
Tom-Dalpra [August 28, 2014 - 7:40 pm]: hey del\par
Tom-Dalpra [August 28, 2014 - 7:40 pm]: d.e.l.\par
delcroix [August 28, 2014 - 7:40 pm]: lol\par
Tom-Dalpra [August 28, 2014 - 7:46 pm]: I.D. has a kind voice. Not the sort of man to suddenly start flailing at you with his fists.\par
delcroix [August 28, 2014 - 7:47 pm]: he's dropping now and again , just a few times , he's ok now\par
delcroix [August 28, 2014 - 7:48 pm]: and like me a heavy breather , either that or rollo is snoring :P\par
Tom-Dalpra [August 28, 2014 - 7:48 pm]: Rollo's probably having a conversation with a lobby wall\par
delcroix [August 28, 2014 - 7:49 pm]: lol\par
khammad [August 28, 2014 - 7:54 pm]: @Tom-Dalpra: Bow\par
Tom-Dalpra [August 28, 2014 - 7:55 pm]: :D\par
Tom-Dalpra [August 28, 2014 - 7:57 pm]: It's like listening to pirate radio in the 60's\par
delcroix [August 28, 2014 - 8:01 pm]: yeah man\par
delcroix [August 28, 2014 - 8:01 pm]: http://k007.kiwi6.com/hotlink/50urd13x05/k_ham_radio.jpg\par
khammad [August 28, 2014 - 8:01 pm]: @delcroix: Nice! I appreciate the green!\par
delcroix [August 28, 2014 - 8:02 pm]: :) glad you like it\par
Tom-Dalpra [August 28, 2014 - 8:13 pm]: oh yeh, very nice delcroix.\par
Tom-Dalpra [August 28, 2014 - 8:17 pm]: family show. bring the kids on . talk about the beheading\par
delcroix [August 28, 2014 - 8:19 pm]: thanks dal\par
delcroix [August 28, 2014 - 8:19 pm]: echo echo\par
khammad [August 28, 2014 - 8:19 pm]: is there like crazy echoing?\par
delcroix [August 28, 2014 - 8:19 pm]: is is is is is\par
Tom-Dalpra [August 28, 2014 - 8:19 pm]: is there like crazy echoing?\par
Tom-Dalpra [August 28, 2014 - 8:19 pm]: isisis\par
delcroix [August 28, 2014 - 8:20 pm]: lol lol lol lol\par
delcroix [August 28, 2014 - 8:20 pm]: it's rollo\par
Tom-Dalpra [August 28, 2014 - 8:20 pm]: haha\par
khammad [August 28, 2014 - 8:20 pm]: hahaha\par
delcroix [August 28, 2014 - 8:20 pm]: grand now\par
Tom-Dalpra [August 28, 2014 - 8:24 pm]: great appearances from Rollo tonight.\par
khammad [August 28, 2014 - 8:24 pm]: :)\par
Tom-Dalpra [August 28, 2014 - 8:24 pm]: I'm a vegetarian\par
khammad [August 28, 2014 - 8:24 pm]: I like to eat dead animals\par
delcroix [August 28, 2014 - 8:25 pm]: me too lol\par
Tom-Dalpra [August 28, 2014 - 8:25 pm]: ID'S NOSTRILS?\par
khammad [August 28, 2014 - 8:26 pm]: yup,\par
delcroix [August 28, 2014 - 8:26 pm]: NOSTRdamus ?\par
Tom-Dalpra [August 28, 2014 - 8:26 pm]: haha - id's echoing now\par
delcroix [August 28, 2014 - 8:27 pm]: it's still rollo's end\par
Tom-Dalpra [August 28, 2014 - 8:28 pm]: abuse\par
khammad [August 28, 2014 - 8:29 pm]: ya, hard to teach an old dog new tricks\par
khammad [August 28, 2014 - 8:29 pm]: me included\par
khammad [August 28, 2014 - 8:31 pm]: NOSTROnauts\par
Tom-Dalpra [August 28, 2014 - 8:33 pm]: I :favorite: you Rollo.\par
khammad [August 28, 2014 - 8:33 pm]: I love Rollo too\par
Tom-Dalpra [August 28, 2014 - 8:34 pm]: They just make it up don't they.ISIS wasn't even a long con.\par
Tom-Dalpra [August 28, 2014 - 8:35 pm]: well - in the media\par
khammad [August 28, 2014 - 8:35 pm]: @Tom-Dalpra: Bingo!\par
khammad [August 28, 2014 - 8:39 pm]: Great Job, K, state the obvious\par
khammad [August 28, 2014 - 8:42 pm]: thats some good stuff: scared me to death\par
khammad [August 28, 2014 - 8:43 pm]: honesty\par
delcroix [August 28, 2014 - 8:54 pm]: tom can you come into the lobby for a min ? it will take two people to help rollo try to fix it and test the echo elimination ,\par
khammad [August 28, 2014 - 8:56 pm]: Rollo is in push-to-talk he is leaving it on talk too long\par
khammad [August 28, 2014 - 8:56 pm]: grrrrrrrr\par
delcroix [August 28, 2014 - 8:57 pm]: he just needs a slight ajustment\par
delcroix [August 28, 2014 - 9:08 pm]: rollo could'nt seem to hear me in the lobby hmmm, and i can't spell adjustment\par
khammad [August 28, 2014 - 9:11 pm]: grrrrrrrr\par
delcroix [August 28, 2014 - 9:14 pm]: i've been a subscriber to rir for the past 3 years , listening since the old days\par
delcroix [August 28, 2014 - 9:14 pm]: rick clay man\par
delcroix [August 28, 2014 - 9:16 pm]: hendrick like us all are learning more every day ,\par
khammad [August 28, 2014 - 9:16 pm]: cringe\par
khammad [August 28, 2014 - 9:16 pm]: to audio\par
delcroix [August 28, 2014 - 9:18 pm]: it will be an editing nightmare :(\par
khammad [August 28, 2014 - 9:18 pm]: that echoing feels like a purposful mindfek\par
delcroix [August 28, 2014 - 9:19 pm]: 10 is the great creator ...... the big 1\par
delcroix [August 28, 2014 - 9:19 pm]: feck off rollo and the echo you road in on :D\par
khammad [August 28, 2014 - 9:20 pm]: :-)\par
khammad [August 28, 2014 - 9:20 pm]: feck is our new favorite word\par
delcroix [August 28, 2014 - 9:21 pm]: been mine for 40 odd years lol\par
delcroix [August 28, 2014 - 9:22 pm]: 666 is just carbon , we're carbon based creatures therefore the war on carbon feet lol\par
or e bil [August 28, 2014 - 9:23 pm]: Building 7 also being known as the Solomon Brothers' Building seems a big tell to me..\par
delcroix [August 28, 2014 - 9:23 pm]: reduce the carbon goys footprint :(\par
or e bil [August 28, 2014 - 9:25 pm]: Richard Drew's "Falling Man" also\par
delcroix [August 28, 2014 - 9:25 pm]: did you know spinal tap ripped off rick mayal and the comic strip gang\par
delcroix [August 28, 2014 - 9:28 pm]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TCPeaj5Dlw&list=PLSluRgkFtrOO64vUTJfMXzjoxRv6te_W8\par
delcroix [August 28, 2014 - 9:29 pm]: bad news is spinal tap\par
fakeologist [August 28, 2014 - 9:43 pm]: Good show K you go Gretel.\par
fakeologist [August 28, 2014 - 9:43 pm]: Grrrrl\par
khammad [August 28, 2014 - 9:44 pm]: lol\par
fakeologist [August 28, 2014 - 9:44 pm]: Auto type is annoying often\par
khammad [August 28, 2014 - 9:44 pm]: haha\par
or e bil [August 28, 2014 - 10:12 pm]: E pluribus unum -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E_pluribus_unum\par
or e bil [August 28, 2014 - 10:13 pm]: In 2001, following the September 11 attacks, the Ad Council and Texas ad agency GSD&M launched a famous public service announcement in which ethnically diverse people say "I am an American"; near the end of the PSA, a black screen shows and the phrase "E pluribus unum" is seen with the English translation underneath.\par
or e bil [August 28, 2014 - 10:13 pm]: In the film The Wizard of Oz, the wizard gives the Scarecrow a diploma from the society of E Pluribus Unum.\par
smj [August 28, 2014 - 10:18 pm]: prescientist, e o lawrence tells a story...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tJrJ9dSLFg\par
khammad [August 28, 2014 - 10:31 pm]: @or e bil: I thought E Pluribus Unum meant One From Many\par
or e bil [August 28, 2014 - 10:31 pm]: Yes, K... it does.\par
or e bil [August 28, 2014 - 10:32 pm]: The new One World.... Trade Center is constructed in the shape of an anti-prism as well.\par
or e bil [August 28, 2014 - 10:33 pm]: Prism --- one color (white light) into many. Reverse process for anti effect.\par
khammad [August 28, 2014 - 10:36 pm]: Yes, K... you dumb ass, hahahaha\par
or e bil [August 28, 2014 - 10:37 pm]: Malaysia Airlines... part of oneworld. http://www.oneworld.com/member-airlines/malaysia-airlines\par
or e bil [August 28, 2014 - 10:37 pm]: not even... LOL\par
khammad [August 28, 2014 - 10:38 pm]: I wonder about the whole malaysian thing,\par
khammad [August 28, 2014 - 10:39 pm]: I wonder what the title of the psyop was\par
khammad [August 28, 2014 - 10:39 pm]: on the packet they handed around the table\par
khammad [August 28, 2014 - 10:39 pm]: as they were planning it\par
or e bil [August 28, 2014 - 10:40 pm]: There was so much similarity on the first one to the television show "Lost" that it had to be phony, imho.\par
or e bil [August 28, 2014 - 10:41 pm]: And since there were tie-ins from the sequel (haha), it seems that one should be guilty by association.\par
or e bil [August 28, 2014 - 10:44 pm]: Here's Miley Cyrus "Making Headlines" by telling folks that she is gonna catch up on the TV show "Lost" during her upcoming tour (approx 1 month prior to MH370) http://www.zap2it.com/blogs/miley_cyrus_plans_to_start_watching_lost-2014-02\par
khammad [August 28, 2014 - 10:47 pm]: @or e bil: name the psyop\par
khammad [August 28, 2014 - 10:47 pm]: what would its title be?\par
khammad [August 28, 2014 - 10:47 pm]: maybe include both malaysian arilines into one psyop\par
or e bil [August 28, 2014 - 10:48 pm]: MH 370 "Lost" I suppose :)\par
khammad [August 28, 2014 - 10:48 pm]: and include the government take over\par
khammad [August 28, 2014 - 10:48 pm]: Lost is good\par
khammad [August 28, 2014 - 10:50 pm]: gotta run\par
or e bil [August 28, 2014 - 10:50 pm]: Later...\par
or e bil [August 28, 2014 - 11:30 pm]: hmm.. I thought about it a bit more. On the packet let's call it... oneworld "Lost", oneworld torn apart by war. :)\par
Tom-Dalpra [August 29, 2014 - 4:03 am]: interesting stuff thinking about ''Lost'' . Nice to hear K and ID on the stream. Rollo was crashing about in the lobby drunk i think\par
Tom-Dalpra [August 29, 2014 - 4:30 am]: @smj the cyclotron interview - they're building a 'church' and speaking to us like children.\par
Tom-Dalpra [August 29, 2014 - 4:30 am]: again\par
smj [August 29, 2014 - 8:23 am]: @tom yes they are; and they don't mind telling us so. here's john heilbron-- the son of louis heilbron, former chairman of the board of regents for the cal university system-- telling us that they are bridge-builders and pontifaxs (pontifices), the pope is the pontifax maximus. go to the end of the lecture, he gift wraps the hustle for us. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skMvy2iJC1E\par
smj [August 29, 2014 - 8:26 am]: heilbron is known for being an "instrumentalist" so the truth really doesn't matter. http://gypsyscholarship.blogspot.com/2010/12/john-l-heilbron-galileo.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instrumentalism\par
smj [August 29, 2014 - 8:35 am]: here's professor pimenthal building a bridge from the planetary model of the atom-- where you needed to find the particle to measure it's trajectory-- to the quantum model-- where you can do whatever the hell you want by just throwing out trajectory and using a cloud of probabilities--by using the bohr model of the atom as a "bridge". go to the 27 min mark and remember that the truth don't m\par
smj [August 29, 2014 - 8:35 am]: matter. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-EeeREoheg&list=PLEB476ECA0DA9481C&index=26\par
smj [August 29, 2014 - 8:44 am]: heilbron learned his instrumentalism at berkeley from thomas kuhn; the guy who got us saying "paradigm shift". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradigm_shift#Kuhnian_paradigm_shifts i'm tired of these priests and their parlour tricks\par
Carole Thomas [August 29, 2014 - 9:16 am]: @smj Guess you might be familiar with this interview but here's posting it anyway http://www.gnosticmedia.com/david-harriman-interview-the-philosophic-corruption-of-physics-and-the-logical-leap-111/\par
Carole Thomas [August 29, 2014 - 9:20 am]: David Harriman is a physicist and philosopher and says "\par
\'e2\'80\'9cFundamental theory today is the manipulation of\par
mathematics, with very little physical understanding\'e2\'80\'9d\par
Carole Thomas [August 29, 2014 - 9:24 am]: Short video of David Harriman explaining induction/deduction, logical leaps and falling apples http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZifzYKIERZo\par
Carole Thomas [August 29, 2014 - 9:39 am]: Amusing "Fairy Tale for Quantum Physicists" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aow8hVpdSHQ\par
Carole Thomas [August 29, 2014 - 9:48 am]: mapfight: Canada vs USA http://mapfight.appspot.com/ca-vs-us/canada-united-states-size-comparison. H/t No Agenda\par
khammad [August 29, 2014 - 10:11 am]: videre: Markus did exactly what you did. On air, play around with voice morphing video. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. :P\par
khammad [August 29, 2014 - 10:13 am]: That's the show from 8/27/2014\par
khammad [August 29, 2014 - 10:17 am]: I wish when Markus uses ideas from Abs website he would properly cite where he got it from. After listening to Episode 8/27/13, it appears 90% of what Markus talks about on Chris's show, Hoaxbusters, if from what Ab and people are saying over here at Fakeologist.com. Hmmmmm.\par
khammad [August 29, 2014 - 10:19 am]: I'm not drunk. I apologize for so many typos. Damn tiny iphone screen.\par
khammad [August 29, 2014 - 10:27 am]: Could it be that he is simply taking 'popular' subjects from this site? To boost his numbers?\par
ab [August 29, 2014 - 10:28 am]: @khammad: lovely show last nite. Will be posted shortly. Can I offer constructive advice here or in private?\par
khammad [August 29, 2014 - 10:32 am]: Ab: ya, just a sec\par
ab [August 29, 2014 - 10:52 am]: ep 3 of K Ham radio up - great audio!\par
Rollo [August 29, 2014 - 11:22 am]: Gday Del.....thanks for helping me fix my audio........\par
Rubulisk [August 29, 2014 - 11:32 am]: How are you all doing today? I am enjoying listening to the audio chats and about to start the infamous 6 hour shillery psiopticon file.\par
delcroix [August 29, 2014 - 11:32 am]: hi rollo , np man , that echo was a bloody mystery :)\par
delcroix [August 29, 2014 - 11:33 am]: hi rubulisk , that'll keep you busy lol\par
delcroix [August 29, 2014 - 11:34 am]: 9/11 everywhere again http://youtu.be/63OdK8ZcrrY\par
Rubulisk [August 29, 2014 - 11:38 am]: I actually just listened to the one after the 6 hour chat. I think it's funny I signed up for the site right after this other guy leaves.\par
ab [August 29, 2014 - 11:39 am]: @Rubulisk: yes some may look at it as suspicious;)\par
Rubulisk [August 29, 2014 - 11:44 am]: Well suspicious or not it's always good to be skeptical of new information and new people. I just want to be judged based on my arguments and not my timing.\par
khammad [August 29, 2014 - 11:47 am]: @Rubulisk: Are you listening to how I am fawning over EE (to use Simons letters)\par
khammad [August 29, 2014 - 11:47 am]: Smart british man MUST know way more than me :P\par
khammad [August 29, 2014 - 11:47 am]: Please don\par
khammad [August 29, 2014 - 11:48 am]: dont judge me too harsh:Pey\par
Rubulisk [August 29, 2014 - 12:15 pm]: Who is EE?\par
ab [August 29, 2014 - 12:32 pm]: @Rubulisk: see the latest post\par
khammad [August 29, 2014 - 12:59 pm]: EE = Evil Edna, aka Psypticon\par
Rollo [August 29, 2014 - 1:00 pm]: Psyopti-gone :) ......thanks for the chat K.... K = 11\par
khammad [August 29, 2014 - 1:01 pm]: Ro11o :D\par
Rollo [August 29, 2014 - 1:01 pm]: no more echo's thanks to Del.....\par
Rollo [August 29, 2014 - 1:01 pm]: all fixed....we spoke for 4 hours after our chat....he's a great guy....hope he does the cluesquiz\par
khammad [August 29, 2014 - 1:08 pm]: I would love to hear del on the quiz show\par
Rollo [August 29, 2014 - 1:10 pm]: yep a fantastic concept......lots of work tho....I used to run trivia nights.....no multiple choice....but the multiple choice thing for the clues quiz seems to work well.... plus the discussion afterward....my favourite bit\par
Rubulisk [August 29, 2014 - 1:57 pm]: I think the most important update or tweaking for the quiz would be the question phrasing. Just making sure the questions are easy to understand.\par
khammad [August 29, 2014 - 2:58 pm]: Or at least r e a d. t h e. q u e s t i o n. s l o w l y.\par
Rubulisk [August 29, 2014 - 3:55 pm]: Oh geeze. I am at the point now with EE very very upset and using the "C" word, lol. It sounds like someone scrounging for something else to change the conversation but in a frantic way.\par
or e bil [August 29, 2014 - 4:51 pm]: Hubble telescope spots signs of water on Europa! http://www.nasa.gov/content/goddard/hubble-europa-water-vapor/#.VADmoDJdU8I (er.... maybe we shouldn't go there..) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38EDhpxzn2g\par
khammad [August 29, 2014 - 8:35 pm]: @Rubulisk: it's a saga about human emotion: friendship, laughter, suspicion, anger, paranoia\par
Tom-Dalpra [August 29, 2014 - 8:38 pm]: That audio is quite a listen. Interesting in retrospect.\par
Tom-Dalpra [August 29, 2014 - 8:39 pm]: If you've got a few hours...it's not the sort of audio that therapists would play as relaxing background.\par
khammad [August 29, 2014 - 10:10 pm]: @Tom-Dalpra: sort of like a freight train gaining steam\par
smj [August 29, 2014 - 10:18 pm]: here's a propaganda piece from the department of energy about a ludicrous machine from berkeley. the bevatron plays the role of the loyal workhorse accelerator in this farce. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awoAR4lnStY\par
jimbo [August 29, 2014 - 10:58 pm]: The BEVetron(Bilion Electon Volts). Excerpt from clip above:"The Bevetrons first beam at it's full energy of 6 billion volts was delivered on April Fools Day 1954".\par
smj [August 30, 2014 - 4:24 am]: @jimbo yep, the joke is on us-- always has been i reckon. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludibrium http://latinlexicon.org/definition.php?p1=1009447&p2=l\par
smj [August 30, 2014 - 4:58 am]: more bevotron-- 30 second newsreel...funny stuff of course. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFnP1RG0JR4\par
Jim Hollander [August 30, 2014 - 5:50 am]: Just reading clues forum. ThE I$$ thread. If it were a\par
Jim Hollander [August 30, 2014 - 5:54 am]: Just reading clues forum. The I$$ thread. If it were an airliner or something like that. It will be affected by head winds and tail winds. With a strong head wind it will cover less ground, than normal and vice versa. So it is something to look out for . Check your local weather for upper atmosphere conditions and then time the thing to see if there is any difference. Or the might only rele\par
Jim Hollander [August 30, 2014 - 5:55 am]: Or they might only release the thing when conditions are perfect.\par
Jim Hollander [August 30, 2014 - 6:21 am]: The thing is coming past me in five mins, but it is very light outside.\par
Jim Hollander [August 30, 2014 - 6:22 am]: Time: Sat Aug 30 6:26 PM, Visible: 6 min, Max Height: 59 degrees, Appears: NNW, Disappears: SE\par
Jim Hollander [August 30, 2014 - 6:31 am]: nothing\par
Jim Hollander [August 30, 2014 - 6:34 am]: too many clouds and way too bright. Maybe i set it up the I$$ email for a holiday.\par
khammad [August 30, 2014 - 9:49 am]: @Jim Hollander: because of the earths shadow, you should be able to see the ISS for up to 3 hours after sunset AND sunrise. Have you found a chart that lists sunrises? I have looked and have not.\par
khammad [August 30, 2014 - 9:53 am]: and 3 hours BEFORE sunrise\par
khammad [August 30, 2014 - 12:41 pm]: Since the ISS flies around the earth 15 times a day, we should be able to see it 30 times a day? (Once when it enters the earths shadow and once when it exits the earths shadow. )\par
Jim Hollander [August 30, 2014 - 12:42 pm]: yeah i fucked up. A year ago I went to the philippines and just before i left I signed up for the I$$ email. The philippines has has very clear skies so I thought it was a good time to look for it. I forgot about this so when I got the alert today it wasn't for my part of the world.\par
Jim Hollander [August 30, 2014 - 1:51 pm]: EE Also tried to arouse suspicion over the Harrier Jet. Which anyone can go and see for their own eyes. Another strawman attempt perhaps.\par
Tom-Dalpra [August 30, 2014 - 4:58 pm]: Yep, sounds like it. You get people talking about that stuff and your message is discredited - it's the 'falsus in uno' principle, which in fact does not apply in the field of research\par
Rubulisk [August 30, 2014 - 6:18 pm]: What's going on, everybody?\par
delcroix [August 30, 2014 - 6:31 pm]: hi rub ,\par
delcroix [August 30, 2014 - 6:46 pm]: testing night here ab\par
delcroix [August 30, 2014 - 6:47 pm]: avatar morphing test :D\par
Rubulisk [August 30, 2014 - 6:47 pm]: Hey guys\par
delcroix [August 30, 2014 - 6:47 pm]: hi rub , again lol\par
Rubulisk [August 30, 2014 - 6:55 pm]: Test\par
ab [August 30, 2014 - 6:59 pm]: No formal broadcast this Labour Day. Feel free to audiochat.fakeologist.com and comment on the week's events!\par
ab [August 30, 2014 - 9:21 pm]: audiochat streams live at http://s3.fakeologist.com\par
khammad [August 30, 2014 - 10:00 pm]: @Jim Hollander: I believed a lot of stuff EE said. Crap. Have to go back and re-think.\par
Rubulisk [August 31, 2014 - 9:10 am]: Good morning, Fakeologists\par
khammad [August 31, 2014 - 12:10 pm]: @Rubulisk: 9:10 RST\par
khammad [August 31, 2014 - 12:10 pm]: so for me it is morning, morning to you sir\par
Rubulisk [August 31, 2014 - 1:42 pm]: Does much usually happen here on Sun's day?\par
fakeologist [August 31, 2014 - 2:01 pm]: @Rubulisk: depends who's here. How about discussing some fakeology on audio chat?\par
Rubulisk [August 31, 2014 - 2:03 pm]: I'm watching a movie right now that Jan recommended to me last night.\par
Rubulisk [August 31, 2014 - 2:07 pm]: Speaking with Jan last night was especially interesting for myself and I hope Videre gained something from it as well.\par
smj [August 31, 2014 - 2:36 pm]: it would appear crisis actors back in the good old days were afforded multiple takes. these are the supposed witnesses of the bruno hauptmann execution at the conclusion of the trial of the century. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3h7JDbgLNw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kBp_L4eJ_E\par
smj [August 31, 2014 - 2:38 pm]: the dandy in black ran the investigation, norman schwarzkopf, sr. http://loc.gov/pictures/resource/cph.3c09414/\par
or e bil [August 31, 2014 - 2:43 pm]: @smj: That's so bizarre... I was looking into the kidnapping/trial as well this morning..:) Lindy and Norman's son are esteemed recipients of the Congressional Gold Medal and all that...\par
fakeologist [August 31, 2014 - 2:47 pm]: @Rubulisk: I will listen today\par
fakeologist [August 31, 2014 - 2:48 pm]: @Rubulisk: I will listen today\par
fakeologist [August 31, 2014 - 2:48 pm]: @Rubulisk: I will listen today\par
or e bil [August 31, 2014 - 2:50 pm]: I was sort of wondering why Lindy was playing the apparent "anti-semitic" card at one point along with Henry Ford. Am thinking it is a suspicion deflector -- similar to why one might ask questions as to how a future MPAA prez could be in a famous photo of a President's inauguration and also how the sitting one could also have been a well known Politician.\par
or e bil [August 31, 2014 - 2:55 pm]: Or this guy..... Harry Robbins "Bob" Haldeman (better known as H. R. Haldeman; October 27, 1926 \'e2\'80\ldblquote November 12, 1993) was an American political aide and businessman, best known for his service as White House Chief of Staff to President Richard Nixon and his consequent involvement in the Watergate scandal. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._R._Haldeman\par
or e bil [August 31, 2014 - 2:57 pm]: Harry was also a board member of a prestigious "Entertainment" college founded by Disney, close to where I live. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Institute_of_the_Arts\par
or e bil [August 31, 2014 - 3:12 pm]: LIndy's dad looks to have taken the "good cop" side regarding the Federal Reserve Act and entry into WWI. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_August_Lindbergh\par
smj [August 31, 2014 - 3:16 pm]: @at libero must be something in the air. hauptman (captain in german) was an illegal german alien for 11 years, so the story goes. the kidnapping was in '32. they were setting up the dialectic. september 11 1941-- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h39eCW3H63E\par
smj [August 31, 2014 - 3:18 pm]: @ i stumbled on this b.s. because i was looking for old footage of witnesses to staged events.\par
or e bil [August 31, 2014 - 3:25 pm]: @smj: LOL yeah.. I caught the Sept 11 date earlier too and just let out a sigh... By the way... Here's one of my go to sites on strange and bizarre "trials" throughout American History, if, perhaps you haven't come across it yet... You'll find the Lindy one there too... http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/ftrials.htm\par
or e bil [August 31, 2014 - 3:26 pm]: I dunno... there just may be a pattern there with them there "trials." :P\par
smj [August 31, 2014 - 3:37 pm]: as far as trials are concerned, i assume that only the stagecrafted events make the history books.\par
or e bil [August 31, 2014 - 3:38 pm]: On this day in history in 2001, very close to where I lived at the time, this event occurred -- sort of a mini Waco or Ruby Ridge type deal.. http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com/stevenson.html I didn't even question it one bit until I saw it on Dave McGowan's site and was apprised a bit of the possibility of there being psyops in this world.\par
or e bil [August 31, 2014 - 3:39 pm]: A little investigation leads one to find that Nick Ut of the famous vietnamese "Napalm Girl" photo fame was there to snap some of the action. Strange world it is.\par
or e bil [August 31, 2014 - 3:40 pm]: @smj: Yes.. I think you are spot on re: the trials, btw.\par
or e bil [August 31, 2014 - 3:50 pm]: All I know regarding the event I posted is that the house did indeed burn down and the cop (definitely a real person) that allegedly was downed is not present in the area anymore. There are parks and streets named after him, however, to uphold his legacy.\par
or e bil [August 31, 2014 - 4:38 pm]: Oh yeah... one other bizarre thing related to this event another weird incident with a photographer can be seen in this photo.\par
or e bil [August 31, 2014 - 4:38 pm]: http://www.latimes.com/la-090401funeral8_gj5wf0ke-photo.html\par
or e bil [August 31, 2014 - 4:40 pm]: The photograph on that page was supposedly taken by someone named Brian Walski who would supposedly eventually lose his job for altering photographs. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Walski\par
or e bil [August 31, 2014 - 5:02 pm]: More investigation into that incident led me to find that somehow the "shooter" had an insurance policy that would be eventually be paid out to the family of the victim, none of which were spouse or kids, etc... . I found that to be extremely odd, as I am not familiar with any type of insurance that would do such a thing.\par
khammad [August 31, 2014 - 8:43 pm]: http://blog.garettfisbeck.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Screen-Shot-2012-03-12-at-11.02.46-PM.png\par
khammad [August 31, 2014 - 8:49 pm]: The above image shows the altered and the unaltered image side by side. Not a big difference. Seems like he was punished as if to say "Look, we media police ourselves". Brian Walski was duly chastised and now we can rest easy that the media will never let altered photos appear in the media again.\par
columjaddica [August 31, 2014 - 8:53 pm]: Finally listened to ep2-KHam-Radio, lol has nothing to do with HAM radio... I really need to remember to listen before commenting. Very good shows though, listened to audiochats 26-27 and 27-28 now, both excellent, would love to hear more from Rubulisk.\par
columjaddica [August 31, 2014 - 8:55 pm]: Audio can be so hard to follow sometimes, I used to do tech support for web conferencing software and I've never gotten over my annoyance with echo, etc. Internet audio sucks more than it should\par
ab [August 31, 2014 - 8:55 pm]: http://www.hateandflame.com/Stan/index.php?id=715 Whoever this group is targets fakeologists\par
ab [August 31, 2014 - 8:56 pm]: @columjaddica: the audios may be raw but lots of good info in them. because they're raw I can overlook the tech issues. Some, like echo, are amusing for a while\par
ab [August 31, 2014 - 8:57 pm]: @khammad: I was wondering what we were looking at before I saw your comment\par
columjaddica [August 31, 2014 - 8:58 pm]: That's weird ab. Over on 4ch*n politics board somebody started posting threads yesterday targetting various conspiracy shows for call bombs. They hit a show of a black man talking about vaccines and then after he started screening they moved onto one talking about aliens and bigfoot. "For the lulz", but it seemed like somebody just using the mob for attacks\par
columjaddica [August 31, 2014 - 8:59 pm]: The sites they were targeting were on blogtalk radio or somethinng\par
columjaddica [August 31, 2014 - 9:00 pm]: They made more than one thread for this (threads there expire after a post count or from aging)\par
ab [August 31, 2014 - 9:01 pm]: @columjaddica: must be lots of paid shills out...some better than others.\par
columjaddica [August 31, 2014 - 9:04 pm]: When I did the tech support gig I felt that my own echo interrupted me every second. It was really disruptive to me I never really got used to it. But yeah there were a few funny echoes on 27-28\par
Rubulisk [August 31, 2014 - 9:05 pm]: Evening people, how come you guys are not in the teamspeak?\par
columjaddica [August 31, 2014 - 9:06 pm]: I like to listen but find talking too stressful most of the time :)\par
columjaddica [August 31, 2014 - 9:06 pm]: damn chat isn't updating without a reload\par
Rubulisk [August 31, 2014 - 9:06 pm]: I saw you posted on the audios I was in and thought they were decent. Any questions or topics you would like to hear more about?\par
ab [August 31, 2014 - 9:07 pm]: I can't talk tonite. I'd like to hear colum again...why not chat with Rubulisk?\par
columjaddica [August 31, 2014 - 9:07 pm]: Glad I mostly missed the psyopticon drama\par
columjaddica [August 31, 2014 - 9:08 pm]: I'm just not in the mood to chat right now. But I'll pop in soon. Glad it'\par
columjaddica [August 31, 2014 - 9:08 pm]: glad it's not skype any longer, teamspeak seems to work better\par
ab [August 31, 2014 - 9:09 pm]: @columjaddica: yes I like teamspeak\par
ab [August 31, 2014 - 9:09 pm]: I prefer decentralized self hosted software\par
columjaddica [August 31, 2014 - 9:09 pm]: I installed Teamspeak though, haven;t configured it yet. Used to use it a long time ago for gaming\par
ab [August 31, 2014 - 9:12 pm]: @columjaddica: hopefully we'll see you on soon.\par
columjaddica [August 31, 2014 - 9:14 pm]: During the Ferguson story I was focused completely on that, trying to figure out what was going on there. During all of those livestreams I set up another really cool gaming technology to help capture video and audio. Nvidia Shadowplay, it's made for people that livestream video gaming sessions but it's great for so many other things. Doesn't lag your PC and easy to set up\par
columjaddica [August 31, 2014 - 9:16 pm]: So far just using it to catch live news streams so that if I see something interesting it's saved and I don't have to rely on the morning news to repeat it. Capturing scanner feeds, etc etc. I haven't even figured out what to do with it but I think it could be a very useful tech for anybody doing internet broadcasting. It can stream to many of the online services or save as H264 MP4 on the fly\par
ab [August 31, 2014 - 9:21 pm]: @columjaddica: thanks very nice. I will check it. so I can stream a youtube video for people to comment on?\par
ab [August 31, 2014 - 9:22 pm]: @columjaddica: needs an nvidia gpu. won't install\par
or e bil [August 31, 2014 - 9:23 pm]: @khammad: I have come to the same exact conclusion as you regarding that Walski "doctored" photo. So my thinking was, now there is at least 2 suspicious photographers associated with that story. You can search Nick Ut on cluesforum to see some of the interesting events he has been involved in. His original "Vietnam Napalm" takes the cake though.\par
or e bil [August 31, 2014 - 9:24 pm]: Here is the link to clues. Check out the video associated with the picture. You may find it a bit strange how this little girl who has supposedly had her skin burned off is so calm and collected. http://cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=1643&p=2387225&hilit=napalm#p2387225\par
columjaddica [August 31, 2014 - 9:38 pm]: @ab: Yeah, that's kind of the point is that it needs the GPU. That's why it has less performance impact, it doesn't need the CPU that much and can output H264 @ 60fps with low latency. For a software only version, Iheard that Action! is good but I've never used it\par
columjaddica [August 31, 2014 - 9:39 pm]: Nvidia sells cards for about $100 (in the US) that have shadowplay though. Like the GTX750, which doesn't require a high wattage power supply, you can put it in most cheap dell desktops\par
columjaddica [August 31, 2014 - 9:41 pm]: It's really cool to record live streams and not lose any frames, even if it does get recompressed. But I guess most people use it for livestreaming games\par
columjaddica [August 31, 2014 - 9:43 pm]: And it's nice to be able to record "What U hear" without having to mess around with esoteric windows and sound driver input/output/volume panels\par
ab [August 31, 2014 - 9:44 pm]: @columjaddica: ok so I need another card. Doesn'thelp with a laptop. At least with my sound repeaters I can get them working in any computer I have without hardware\par
columjaddica [August 31, 2014 - 9:45 pm]: Also sounds like the kind of tech the NSA would love, haha.\par
columjaddica [August 31, 2014 - 9:47 pm]: Yeah, you have a setup that works, I just wanted to mention it though maybe somebody would like it. I can record everything on the screen and audio at any time just with a ALT+F10, and not notice lag, and you could point that to youtube or ustream. For somebody that wanted to do a live show with video it could be useful\par
ab [August 31, 2014 - 9:51 pm]: @columjaddica: ok but they do need a GPU. most don't have that unless they're gamers\par
columjaddica [August 31, 2014 - 11:03 pm]: Very true, and only specific newer GPUs\par
Johan Backes [September 1, 2014 - 4:32 am]: lovin the audio chat sessions...\par
ab [September 1, 2014 - 9:26 am]: @Johan Backes: me too. thanks for the idea! great help!\par
Videre Licet [September 1, 2014 - 2:14 pm]: @ab: something wrong with your site today ab?\par
Videre Licet [September 1, 2014 - 2:14 pm]: @ab: teamspeak seems to have an error too.\par
khammad [September 1, 2014 - 4:17 pm]: .\par
Videre Licet [September 1, 2014 - 4:28 pm]: @khammad: my thoughts exactly~! ;)\par
Videre Licet [September 1, 2014 - 4:28 pm]: :D\par
khammad [September 1, 2014 - 4:49 pm]: I cant seem to get on to abs site with dolphin or safari. Puffin works\par
khammad [September 1, 2014 - 5:16 pm]: And I can only get on this chat page\par
aralsea [September 1, 2014 - 7:59 pm]: This monument kinda scares me https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3762/11101916176_2854c743a7_z.jpg\par
Videre Licet [September 1, 2014 - 8:34 pm]: @khammad: i believe the server is down\par
ab [September 1, 2014 - 9:56 pm]: the cache was screwing with the site. cache is off now so all seems to work\par
delcroix [September 1, 2014 - 10:04 pm]: good to see it back ab , put the cache in the crech\'c3\'a9 for a bit :)\par
ab [September 1, 2014 - 10:09 pm]: @delcroix: now to see why the audiochat is not being chatty. That will have to wait until tomorrow.\par
delcroix [September 1, 2014 - 10:37 pm]: yeah man just had a peep over at hoaxbusters and now i'm off to bed , good luck with your repairs man B)\par
Hoi Polloi [September 1, 2014 - 11:29 pm]: ab, your site was down for me, glad it's back. the Adobe Flash player has a looping script bug or something that seems to crash my browser now when I open your site.\par
Hoi Polloi [September 1, 2014 - 11:30 pm]: I have to kill the loop when coming to your site now, or else the whole browser crashes.\par
Hoi Polloi [September 1, 2014 - 11:30 pm]: did you add any widgets recently?\par
ab [September 2, 2014 - 5:16 am]: @Hoi Polloi: actually I took off the cache. I'll add another one later. Not sure what it could be\par
ab [September 2, 2014 - 5:17 am]: Anyone else having site issues? Still working on the audiochat\par
Jim Hollander [September 2, 2014 - 5:22 am]: The site was not working yesterday it is back now. The mobile view has changed format for me.\par
ab [September 2, 2014 - 5:30 am]: @Jim Hollander: yes which do you like better?\par
UNreal [September 2, 2014 - 6:00 am]: @Ab: I can not connect to either main page, nor audiochat server (on Chrome/Firefox & Teamspeak)\par
Jim Hollander [September 2, 2014 - 8:36 am]: I like the change, it's faster and can see if there are any comments easily.\par
ab [September 2, 2014 - 10:15 am]: Ok audio chat is back. It was an id10t error. Oh well, these things happen when you tape a system together like I have\par
ab [September 2, 2014 - 10:15 am]: @UNreal: flush your caches and see if that helps\par
khammad [September 2, 2014 - 3:20 pm]: @ab: Thanks for all your hard work getting my favorite website back up and running!\par
ab [September 2, 2014 - 4:44 pm]: @khammad: for you I do it. An appreciative fakeologist is my favorite\par
Tal Shiar [September 2, 2014 - 4:56 pm]: @Rubulisk: So I heard that we might a lot in common?\par
ab [September 2, 2014 - 5:07 pm]: @Tal Shiar: come on to the audiochat!\par
Tal Shiar [September 2, 2014 - 5:09 pm]: I am working right now, but I want to join one of these days.\par
Tal Shiar [September 2, 2014 - 5:13 pm]: I wanted to chat a little bit about how much the planets in our solar system have had an influence on our life. Influences that we don't ever talk about and take for granted. I think it is also connected to numerology, global warming, and the reason for wars around the wold. Its insane if people look into our "known" history. The evidence is all there . .\par
Tal Shiar [September 2, 2014 - 5:14 pm]: @ab: Where can I listen to it at work?\par
ab [September 2, 2014 - 5:14 pm]: s3.fakeologist.com\par
ab [September 2, 2014 - 5:17 pm]: http://s3.fakeologist.com\par
Rubulisk [September 2, 2014 - 5:22 pm]: Tal, we have talked about our own history a great deal over the last week.\par
Tal Shiar [September 2, 2014 - 5:35 pm]: I am listening to one that Videre shared a chat with you on it.\par
Tal Shiar [September 2, 2014 - 5:39 pm]: I find it interesting that these guys seem to attack your knowledge of history, because you are from the United States. As if they think that they naturally would have a greater knowledge of history than yourself, because they are not from America? I don't quite understand that way of thinking?\par
Tal Shiar [September 2, 2014 - 5:41 pm]: @Rubulisk: So do you know much about Socrates and Plato?\par
Tal Shiar [September 2, 2014 - 5:42 pm]: @Rubulisk: Are you a history major or anthropology?\par
UNreal [September 2, 2014 - 9:20 pm]: @Rollo : Stanley Kubrick's 1957 1st world war film with Kirk Douglas & his own wife is "Paths of Glory" http://www.filmsite.org/path.html\par
UNreal [September 2, 2014 - 9:24 pm]: the "father" of the big bang in 1931 supposedly was Georges Lema\'c3\'aetre, a Belgian cosmologist and catholic priest http://www.amnh.org/education/resources/rfl/web/essaybooks/cosmic/p_lemaitre.html\par
UNreal [September 2, 2014 - 9:37 pm]: are all images of space just reverse engeneered photos of micro-organisms and really small stuff ? would be a lot cheaper than hubbles and other satelite troubbles : http://www.mymodernmet.com/profiles/blogs/haari-tesla-microscopic-space\par
khammad [September 2, 2014 - 10:11 pm]: @UNreal: you've mentioned this before, in almost the same way?\par
khammad [September 2, 2014 - 10:12 pm]: I think we discussed it briefly\par
khammad [September 2, 2014 - 10:12 pm]: The galaxy idea\par
Joey Z [September 3, 2014 - 1:08 am]: Is it just me...or does the campy Steven Sotloff beheading video \par
look like something out of a crappy 1980's MTV music video???!!!\par
(This one is best viewed with the sound off for full effect.)\par
Joey Z [September 3, 2014 - 1:09 am]: I think the name of this music video could have been \par
"Take a little off the top....please." :P\par
Jim Hollander [September 3, 2014 - 1:51 am]: Re newest beheading - the fake wind (from a fan i guess) does not affect the top part of Jihadi John. Yeah and all the same problems as the other beheading... it is basically the same.\par
UNreal [September 3, 2014 - 5:41 am]: @khammad: you are right ! in the audiochat yesterday we discussed the topic so i posted the link as a reference\par
khammad [September 3, 2014 - 3:54 pm]: @UNreal: I can't quite recall our conversation. Repeating myself could be dangerous, as I might contradict my earlier self :|\par
ab [September 3, 2014 - 4:08 pm]: @khammad: telling the truth means not having to remember what you've said.\par
Tal Shiar [September 3, 2014 - 4:51 pm]: @UNreal: Where is your evidence to support this idea? I have tons of medical experience with a microscope and I've never seen it resemble space or at least what I have seen through a telescope. Also, there is plenty of evidence to support that we have ventured into space. Look how technology has changed in the last 100 years. What would someone in 1914 say about an iPhone/smartphone today?\par
Tal Shiar [September 3, 2014 - 4:51 pm]: @ab: "You can't handle the truth!"\par
Tal Shiar [September 3, 2014 - 4:51 pm]: :)\par
UNreal [September 3, 2014 - 5:12 pm]: @Tal: as you might agree, all footage and images of the moon are,, fabricated. There is a chance, IMHO, that the whole concept of space is just a fairy tail with fake imagery,,, so the reverse engeneered space images i provoded a link to might just be a plausible production method for the space imagery we know as "the universe".\par
Tal Shiar [September 3, 2014 - 5:19 pm]: Wait, you think that space is fake? You can see space every night?\par
Tal Shiar [September 3, 2014 - 5:20 pm]: @UNreal: I'm confused with what you are trying to say? You don't believe that space exists?\par
UNreal [September 3, 2014 - 5:24 pm]: @ Tal: the ISS is definately fake, and spacetravel probably is too, due to the vaccum of space http://cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=1632\par
UNreal [September 3, 2014 - 5:26 pm]: So, how do they sell the spacetravel lies ? fake imagery and propaganda (seen "Gravity"?). How do they produce the imagery ? i believe they use micro-photography, here are some townscapes made with this technique (& some staples) http://www.amusingplanet.com/2010/04/peter-roots-city-of-staples.html\par
ab [September 3, 2014 - 5:32 pm]: @Tal Shiar: What is the plenty of evidence we've ventured into space? What does an iphone have to do with space travel?\par
ab [September 3, 2014 - 5:33 pm]: Thinking, like everyone else it seems, to do a 9/11 open house. I propose the audiochat, since it's a weekday. Bring your favorite 911 picture and story\par
ab [September 3, 2014 - 5:33 pm]: It would be next Thursday, Sep 11\par
UNreal [September 3, 2014 - 5:36 pm]: @Tal: did you see the "moon simulator" that Nasa made for the apollo mission ? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2237819/NASAs-ingenious-moon-simulator-helped-prepare-Apollo-astronauts-land-gone-before.html\par
UNreal [September 3, 2014 - 5:37 pm]: what if all images of the moon comes from this model they said they made after the satellite images, but that could actually be opposite,, & with microphotography\par
Tal Shiar [September 3, 2014 - 5:40 pm]: @ab: What I am saying, is that the technology in an iPhone is far superior to the known technology in 1914. Look at photography then, verses now? The point is, why wouldn't we be able to photograph things from space. today? All I need is a pair of binoculars and you can see planets?\par
ab [September 3, 2014 - 5:43 pm]: @Tal Shiar: if they spent any of the money on real space travel, we may have got out of our atmosphere. Sadly, I haven't seen any evidence.\par
Tal Shiar [September 3, 2014 - 5:43 pm]: @UNreal: No one on this chat has actual hard proof that space travel is fake. You have articles that are written, by the same media that says on the other hand that space travel is happening? At the end of the day, we don't know if they landed on the moon\par
ab [September 3, 2014 - 5:43 pm]: @Tal Shiar: at the end of the day, there is no proof they have landed. there is lots of proof they faked the evidence.\par
Tal Shiar [September 3, 2014 - 5:43 pm]: @ab: What evidence do you need?\par
ab [September 3, 2014 - 5:44 pm]: @Tal Shiar: convincing evidence.\par
Tal Shiar [September 3, 2014 - 5:44 pm]: @ab: There is a lot of evidence to support that they did land on the moon! That evidence being the astronauts who claim that they did it? Articles that you read on the internet is not a source.\par
UNreal [September 3, 2014 - 5:44 pm]: @Tal: if you use the LUCIFER telescope, you can even get a nice close-up,,, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvekoiI_HuQ\par
Tal Shiar [September 3, 2014 - 5:45 pm]: @UNreal: ha ha . . so you are going to show me more media fakery?\par
Carole Thomas [September 3, 2014 - 5:46 pm]: @Tal Do you believe we landed on the moon in 1969?\par
ab [September 3, 2014 - 5:46 pm]: @Tal Shiar: have you read the research here and on cluesforum? are you in agreement with the theme of this blog at all?\par
Tal Shiar [September 3, 2014 - 5:46 pm]: @ab: Have you been to an rocket launching? Have you seen them take off? That seems like evidence to me?\par
Tal Shiar [September 3, 2014 - 5:46 pm]: @Carole Thomas: Hey Carole, I don\par
ab [September 3, 2014 - 5:47 pm]: @Tal Shiar: I'm not prepared to start at "ground 0" in a discussion with you or anyone else on media fakery and the deceptions around us. There is months of research of media fakery here and on cluesforum. Once you've gone through even 10% of it, we can discuss your concerns.\par
Tal Shiar [September 3, 2014 - 5:47 pm]: I don't know what to believe, but I am not going to land on the side that it is fake, considering that there is evidence on both sides of the fence. Assuming sometime is fake, because you read a few articles, doesn't convince me that something isn't true.\par
Carole Thomas [September 3, 2014 - 5:48 pm]: @Tal Where are you from originally?\par
ab [September 3, 2014 - 5:49 pm]: @Tal Shiar: Perhaps Videre can enlighten you, since she apparently has unlimited bandwith as your office mate.\par
Tal Shiar [September 3, 2014 - 5:49 pm]: @ab: Well, there is plenty of evidence out there about chem trails, I have seen them with my own eyes, but I know you don't believe that it is occurring?\par
Tal Shiar [September 3, 2014 - 5:49 pm]: @Carole Thomas: The east coast!\par
Carole Thomas [September 3, 2014 - 5:50 pm]: @ Tal I think Ab doesn't deny chem trails, but he just isn't that interested in them.\par
ab [September 3, 2014 - 5:51 pm]: @Carole Thomas: I am not interested in them, and not convinced of them either. They fall in the street light on and off category for me.\par
Tal Shiar [September 3, 2014 - 5:53 pm]: @ab: So you believe that our images of space are actually microscopic pictures of cells?\par
ab [September 3, 2014 - 5:53 pm]: @Tal Shiar: Where did I imply that?\par
UNreal [September 3, 2014 - 5:54 pm]: @Tal Shiar: The microphotograpy option is one of my top guesses... it is just a possibility, but one i believe in !\par
Carole Thomas [September 3, 2014 - 5:55 pm]: @Tal None of us know what's going on for certain. That said, the people posting here have seen through the 9/11 charade and can no longer give credence to anything the media promotes .\par
Tal Shiar [September 3, 2014 - 5:55 pm]: @Carole Thomas: Exactly Carole! That is my point! Just because one thing is proven untrue, doesn't mean everything is untrue.\par
Tal Shiar [September 3, 2014 - 5:56 pm]: I stand on the side, that once you have been lied to, its pretty hard to believe in what they tell you again.\par
Tal Shiar [September 3, 2014 - 5:56 pm]: As for space travel, we all don't know the true. That is all we can agree on.\par
ab [September 3, 2014 - 5:57 pm]: @Tal Shiar: The major media events are all to be reviewed carefully. 9/11 and the entire space program have been well researched as fake, convincing enough to me.\par
Rubulisk [September 3, 2014 - 5:59 pm]: Ab, the Space program is not fake but many of their claimed accomplishments are. I've been down to the cape many times and there really are engineers and rockets and lots of $$ being spent.\par
Carole Thomas [September 3, 2014 - 5:59 pm]: @Tal I agree with ab- media events have been demonstrated to be fake. What the ultimate truth is- that's the mystery\par
ab [September 3, 2014 - 5:59 pm]: @Rubulisk: I've been to the cape too. Right after Walt Disney World. Whats your point?\par
Carole Thomas [September 3, 2014 - 6:00 pm]: @ rubelisk. What do you mean by " the space program is not fake"?\par
Rubulisk [September 3, 2014 - 6:01 pm]: It would be fallacious to claim the program is fake. I know people who worked at the cape for decades as engineers of one sort or another. Did they make it into space? Did they go to the Moon? Those are reasonable doubts, but any claim that the program is not real is fallacious.\par
Tal Shiar [September 3, 2014 - 6:01 pm]: @ab: Well, the extend of 9/11 fakery is questionable. As an X New Yorker, with family in the city, I would have to say that they never answered some of the most important questions. As for space travel, I am not convinced. Since before history was recorded, we know that our ancestors were fascinated with space. You can see it with your naked eye?\par
ab [September 3, 2014 - 6:01 pm]: @Tal Shiar: I can see the sky with lights. I also see the moon many nights a month.\par
Carole Thomas [September 3, 2014 - 6:02 pm]: @ Rubelisk Not really getting your point - please elaborate:-)\par
Tal Shiar [September 3, 2014 - 6:02 pm]: I am close friends with one of the engineers who worked on the mars land rover. Shall I assume he is part of the fake story? One of my friends?\par
ab [September 3, 2014 - 6:02 pm]: @Rubulisk: I sort of see your point. There is a space program, but you're right, their accomplishments are proven faken in MY mind. There is a nuclear program - evidence of its efforts are demonstrably faked.\par
Carole Thomas [September 3, 2014 - 6:03 pm]: @Tal What is his name?\par
ab [September 3, 2014 - 6:03 pm]: @Tal Shiar: Yes, you can assume he is just like a grip on a movie set.\par
Rubulisk [September 3, 2014 - 6:03 pm]: " and the entire space program have been well researched as fake" was what Ab said. I am saying that there really is a program with real engineers and programmers. I don't think they really made it to the moon and if they did it was with different means than with what they claim to have used. You can't make claims though the the program is not real, like it doesn't or didn't exist.\par
Tal Shiar [September 3, 2014 - 6:03 pm]: @Rubulisk: Exactly!\par
Rubulisk [September 3, 2014 - 6:04 pm]: That would be like saying that the Church is fake, rather than the religion.\par
ab [September 3, 2014 - 6:04 pm]: This is a discussion worthy of the audiochat. Hard to elaborate in text.\par
Carole Thomas [September 3, 2014 - 6:04 pm]: ok guys - just feel there is a bit of sophistry going on.\par
UNreal [September 3, 2014 - 6:05 pm]: if you have seen the film 'The Fountain' all the space imagery was made with microphotography in water tanks,,, just like the ISS astronut imagery,,,\par
Carole Thomas [September 3, 2014 - 6:05 pm]: Still can't access the audio chat ab:-(\par
Rubulisk [September 3, 2014 - 6:05 pm]: I think that was an excellent movie.\par
Tal Shiar [September 3, 2014 - 6:06 pm]: I am leaving work in 15 to go sailing. I'm on a Sailing team in Malibu.\par
ab [September 3, 2014 - 6:06 pm]: @Carole Thomas: I sensed sophistry too. What issues are you having on audiochat?\par
Carole Thomas [September 3, 2014 - 6:06 pm]: LSC says all galaxies are tiny drains!\par
Carole Thomas [September 3, 2014 - 6:07 pm]: can't access network\par
ab [September 3, 2014 - 6:07 pm]: @Carole Thomas: hmm...not sure why. keep trying I suppose. Can you access other servers?\par
Rubulisk [September 3, 2014 - 6:08 pm]: Anyone getting on audiochat?\par
ab [September 3, 2014 - 6:08 pm]: @Rubulisk: sure\par
Carole Thomas [September 3, 2014 - 6:09 pm]: i am on ipad, have downloaded teamspeak but it can't access the IP address\par
Carole Thomas [September 3, 2014 - 6:10 pm]: Error message: could not resove host name\par
ab [September 3, 2014 - 6:11 pm]: fakeologist.ddns.net?\par
Carole Thomas [September 3, 2014 - 6:11 pm]: resolve^\par
Carole Thomas [September 3, 2014 - 6:11 pm]: i can try that again\par
Carole Thomas [September 3, 2014 - 6:18 pm]: nope - doesn't work. will have to try another day:(\par
ab [September 3, 2014 - 6:19 pm]: @Carole Thomas: ok\par
Tal Shiar [September 3, 2014 - 6:28 pm]: Is this evidence? http://www.allproudamericans.com/can-you-find-whats-wrong-with-this-picture.html\par
UNreal [September 3, 2014 - 6:31 pm]: @Tal: Maybe your comment is evidence you didn't go sailing in 15min as you said 22min ago ??\par
Videre Licet [September 3, 2014 - 7:16 pm]: @UNreal: lol\par
khammad [September 4, 2014 - 2:21 am]: @ab: I have read sooo much research sometimes I forget what evidence is used for what position, when old research should be replaced by new research, etc. Yes, that little memory needed a nudge down the hill so it can gain momentum.\par
Carole Thomas [September 4, 2014 - 4:48 am]: Business Insider reports that Sottlof called himself "Steve Sotty" on Facebook.\par
http://www.businessinsider.com/remembering-steven-sotloff-2014-9\par
Carole Thomas [September 4, 2014 - 4:48 am]: Urban Dictionary definition of "sotty ( adj)"\par
The feeling one comes to terms with when first waking from sleep and realizing that he or she does not want to go to work even though the person is physically and mentally able and has the ways and means to work. Most common in service oriented jobs (i.e. fast food, parcel delivery, help center, ect.)\par
ab [September 4, 2014 - 7:33 am]: @khammad: I understand. see you tonite at 711?\par
Tal Shiar [September 4, 2014 - 11:05 am]: @UNreal: Actually, I did go sailing! Thanks . . .\par
Joey Z [September 4, 2014 - 12:05 pm]: @ab, I have been unable to access anything past the current page \par
of the Fakeologist.com blog. Is that something on my end or\par
a bug within the system??? If the latter, what happened to the \par
archives?\par
Jim Hollander [September 4, 2014 - 12:23 pm]: Also having minor issues. If I use a large monitor this site is fine. On a smaller monitor i don't get direct links so i have click menu at the top, however menu does not work anymore.\par
Jim Hollander [September 4, 2014 - 12:25 pm]: And also same problem as JZ, just checked\par
Shady Pica [September 4, 2014 - 1:09 pm]: http://thedailysmug.blogspot.com/2014/08/us-psyop-or-stunning-coincidence-isis.html\par
Carole Thomas [September 4, 2014 - 1:51 pm]: nice catch, Shady. Just took a look at their website and particularly like how they place "conflict zones" in quotation marks. Very telling:-)\par
Tom-Dalpra [September 4, 2014 - 3:26 pm]: ALS bucket challenge = IS beheading referencing. Neat. Someone probably already said it. I can't load the front page here.\par
ab [September 4, 2014 - 5:46 pm]: @Jim Hollander: @Joey Z: thanks I fixed that. Appreciate the feedback\par
khammad [September 4, 2014 - 6:51 pm]: K Ham Radio will be starting at 7:11pm EST\par
Jan Erik Hansen [September 4, 2014 - 6:59 pm]: Nobody cares about you - George Carlin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEt9ZcS6X0M\par
khammad [September 4, 2014 - 7:00 pm]: tru dat brotha, lol\par
khammad [September 4, 2014 - 7:08 pm]: @Jan Erik Hansen: Would you like to join me on teamspeak?\par
Jan Erik Hansen [September 4, 2014 - 7:09 pm]: @khammad: How are the dissident SERF who dare apply critical thinking ? Have U read John Taylor Gattoes books on the PUBLIC FEDERAL indoctrination system that preapares the herd for a barrage of logical http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies propaganda :P\par
khammad [September 4, 2014 - 7:09 pm]: I had not read the book, but ab made a post on gotto. incredible man\par
khammad [September 4, 2014 - 7:13 pm]: K Ham Radio has started\par
Jan Erik Hansen [September 4, 2014 - 7:13 pm]: I might. i can get my laptop working with my headset :-D\par
ab [September 4, 2014 - 8:18 pm]: Good job tonight k\par
ab [September 4, 2014 - 8:18 pm]: Google is evil\par
khammad [September 4, 2014 - 8:22 pm]: http://archive.hattiesburgamerican.com/videonetwork/3763597635001/What-is-ISIS-ISIL-Islamic-State-\par
ab [September 4, 2014 - 8:50 pm]: Good job k.\par
ab [September 4, 2014 - 8:52 pm]: You were cutting out a bit on my end. Hope the recording was cut free\par
khammad [September 4, 2014 - 10:03 pm]: @ab: can't be as bad as the echoing was last week, lol. I did not notice the cutting out, shoot.\par
ab [September 5, 2014 - 5:41 am]: playing with the look of the blog don't panic all\par
rgos [September 5, 2014 - 8:06 am]: orange/blue, like the new look, ab\par
rgos [September 5, 2014 - 8:10 am]: Was listening to ep113, last min. Guillaume, French jazz musician, gets discussed. What's up with the follow-up to his story, and where can I read about it?\par
ab [September 5, 2014 - 9:53 am]: @rgos: Not sure...probably no followup was written by the hoaxsters\par
Tom-Dalpra [September 5, 2014 - 10:40 am]: the orange and blue was difficult to read for me. It's just cus it had orange in it rgos. You're obsessed perhaps? :-). I think the grey makes reading your fine MH17 thread easier. http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Ffakeologist.com%2Fforums%2Ftopic%2Fmalaysia-airlines-flight-mh17%2F&h=cAQFUQwA5\par
Tom-Dalpra [September 5, 2014 - 10:43 am]: You were asking about football tips too...don't wanna do it on here...tomdalpra@hotmail.com drop me a line maybe.\par
rgos [September 5, 2014 - 11:36 am]: @ab So his story/pictures all fake? Lying cat.\par
rgos [September 5, 2014 - 11:43 am]: Tom, come 2016 and 2018 I'll be picking apart those Daily Mail pages with you. Promise. But I'm only interested in the majors.\par
Tom-Dalpra [September 5, 2014 - 12:16 pm]: Hey rgos, sure. I'm at least covered now in that you can never ask: ''Why didn't you tell me?''. Haha. I'll see ya in Paris in June 2016\par
Tal Shiar [September 5, 2014 - 2:05 pm]: http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/watch-asteroid-earth-cosmic-shooting-gallery/story?id=25261571\par
or e bil [September 5, 2014 - 3:46 pm]: The "fish tales" hitting the Yahoo front page are getting sillier by the week. Here's one -- a story of a chap who nabbed an estimated 200 year old, 1247 pound shark from his kayak. The beast was said to be set loose, but fortunately there was an underwater cameraman present to snap the action :) http://www.grindtv.com/outdoor/excursions/post/kayak-fishing-record-set-with-1247-pound-shark\par
or e bil [September 5, 2014 - 4:29 pm]: As always, please insert "allegedly" where appropriate in my previous post. ;)\par
Tom-Dalpra [September 5, 2014 - 4:40 pm]: Ab -Re. site: Now everything's exactly the same EXCEPT there's no ticker with recent forum posts, which is not helpful to any research there. I know you say you don't read the forums. Is this an oversight or a conscious trimming?\par
fakeologist [September 5, 2014 - 6:10 pm]: @Tom-Dalpra: yes. that part was causing problems (who knew?). I put in a ticket for it\par
fakeologist [September 5, 2014 - 6:10 pm]: @Tom-Dalpra: thanks for noticing!\par
Tom-Dalpra [September 5, 2014 - 8:17 pm]: Thanks for the ticket!\par
rgos [September 6, 2014 - 8:20 am]: Ab, I'm re-listening to ep52 with the French cat Guillaume. What is Simon's and your verdict on his story/pictures apart from "there are more holes in his story than Swiss cheese"?\par
khammad [September 6, 2014 - 10:02 am]: @or e bil: the shark in that video looks sick. It's clearly not struggling to free itself. This could just be me, but if I didn't know any better, I would think the shark was a hired actor.\par
fakeologist [September 6, 2014 - 10:28 am]: @rgos: my verdict is a fake story...ie. shill.\par
rgos [September 6, 2014 - 11:02 am]: Just goes to show you can never trust those musicians. I always thought he had the Naudet smell about him.\par
ab [September 6, 2014 - 12:14 pm]: @rgos: Well Simon's a musician - and I trust him. It's useless to generalise.\par
rgos [September 6, 2014 - 2:35 pm]: @ab Sorry, I meant to say: you can never trust those saxophone players\par
Tom-Dalpra [September 6, 2014 - 2:36 pm]: better\par
Tom-Dalpra [September 6, 2014 - 2:37 pm]: still deeply flawed\par
Tom-Dalpra [September 6, 2014 - 2:37 pm]: :o)\par
Tom-Dalpra [September 6, 2014 - 2:40 pm]: i jest.\par
javaring [September 6, 2014 - 2:43 pm]: What's up AB?\par
Carys [September 6, 2014 - 7:01 pm]: Just came across this relating to @ab's most recent blog post: as happened with Robin Williams, a Family Guy episode aired on 24th August, 11 days before Joan/John Rivers died, in which s/he speaks from \'e2\'80\'9cBeyond the Grave\'e2\'80\'9d O:-D http://youtu.be/zNBA_gQ6v5U\par
khammad [September 6, 2014 - 7:14 pm]: @Tom-Dalpra: now you are making it awkward:|\par
Tom-Dalpra [September 6, 2014 - 7:15 pm]: @khammad: making what awkward K?\par
Tom-Dalpra [September 6, 2014 - 7:18 pm]: 8)\par
khammad [September 6, 2014 - 7:22 pm]: Its an american saying that refers to people who struggle at ending thoughts, making it socially awkward for those watching\par
khammad [September 6, 2014 - 7:22 pm]: Do I know you well enough to tease you?\par
Tom-Dalpra [September 6, 2014 - 7:38 pm]: ah, yes, I get it. Fair enough. A guy can get twitchy around here haha\par
Rubulisk [September 6, 2014 - 8:50 pm]: No show again tonight?\par
ab [September 7, 2014 - 4:32 am]: @Rubulisk: no...are you available this afternoon or evening for a show?\par
khammad [September 7, 2014 - 5:23 am]: Ab had mentioned doing a 9/11 show maybe about posting your favorite 9/11 image. I was thinking how fun it would be to have a show and place the images in a designated post so people can see them in real time, instead of just links as usual.\par
aralsea [September 7, 2014 - 7:37 am]: Loaded Teamspeak on better computer, logged in solo, tried to record my voice, did not record anything, mic test seemed to be fine, do i need speaking rights first?:o)\par
ab [September 7, 2014 - 12:38 pm]: @aralsea: you need speaking rights in the live stream, for obvious reasons\par
ab [September 7, 2014 - 12:38 pm]: @khammad: shall I start a sticky thread now?\par
aralsea [September 7, 2014 - 4:32 pm]: @ab: However I went in a chatroom which does not require speaking rights and it still didn't record my voice.\par
Carole Thomas [September 7, 2014 - 5:01 pm]: love this website - thanks to everyone for their research. @Tom D. great comment on the Beatles\par
khammad [September 7, 2014 - 5:34 pm]: @ab: Oh ya, start that sticky thread now as we need to "ramp up" to 9/11 :)\par
aralsea [September 7, 2014 - 5:35 pm]: @ab: I tried again and I can record in the room but as you say not in the Live Stream as permission must be granted.\par
aralsea [September 7, 2014 - 5:51 pm]: Havin a selfie with the Queen http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2666919/The-Queen-Prince-Philip-tour-Belfast-prison-Martin-McGuiness-Peter-Robinson.html\par
ab [September 7, 2014 - 6:19 pm]: @Carole Thomas: love you loving it! can't wait to talk! @aralsea: others have had good luck recording. Check your settings.\par
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