Fetzer on the Holocaust

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Yes, I still listen to Fetzer. He does have interesting guests – even if some or even most are shills. As a researcher, you have to hear everyone that’s out there, since they’re influencing people you may meet and have to try and convince.

It seems Fetzer is turning his focus towards this very thorny topic — the . It may be one of the most heavily guarded of the past 100 years. I agree with Fetzer that nothing should be off limits or even illegal to research.

This audio, with its guest’s accompanying pdf, was quite a good summation of some of the many anomalies regarding WW2 and the concentration camps.

The Real Deal with Jim Fetzer podcast: Mark Elsis.

I’ve always been fascinated with Holocaust research, mainly because in Canada we’ve been told it’s too dangerous to talk about it at all. Early on, one of my favorite politically incorrect columnists was Doug Collins.  He got into trouble for simply publishing the words 0;Swindlers list”, in reference to Spielberg‘s movie Shindlers List. He was dragged through a human rights tribunal trial, and eventually his name was smeared for questioning it.

Canadians were also bombarded with the Zundel trial. While I was a little too young to understand what was happening at the time, it did draw attention to the Holocaust, equating anyone who questioned it, as we are told Zundel did, to a kook with a funny German accent wearing a construction helmet. 

It was implied to me quite recently that Zundel himself may have been part of a discrediting psyop. The purpose of this psyop could have been to pass hate laws in Canada to prevent discussion around or about WW2. By taking a fairly odd character, adding an obscure revisionist publication, and then finding an unused and arcane law, they created an event that eventually made talking about the Holocaust virtually illegal. If it isn’t illegal, the fear is placed or the perception managed to the point where it may as well be. Therein lies the true power of psychological operations.

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2 thoughts on “Fetzer on the Holocaust

  1. Jan Erik

    While people have rightly focused on the substantive evil associated with denying the deaths of millions of innocent people during World War II, the deeper unanswered question is why we could possibly be even debating the number of murdered in the first place?

    In no other event in history was there more documentary evidence of mass murder than the German sacrifice camps of World War II –not the survivors, not the movie and still images, nor actual camps themselves, but the literally hundreds of thousands of pages of carefully typed evidence of unquestionable murder. I refer to the multiple copies of lists of death which the Nazis kept for each and every single arrival to the death camps.

    Yet there exists a concerted and unyielding campaign to re-write the Holocaust of World War II even further – so that within a generation children will be taught that only a few hundred thousand people were murdered by the Nazis in concentration camps out of racist policies to “save money”.

    Contrary to the belief that such revisionism would be impossible given the evidence, the cultural evidence already exists that previous deliberate revisions and lies have already changed the perception of the public concerning the Holocaust—that it is only a matter of time and certainty that the Holocaust will be denied again. That within one hundred years, the great sacrifice of over eighteen million innocent Protestants, Orthodox Christians, ethnic Jews and minority groups by burning them alive in ovens less than seventy years ago by Catholic dictators will be removed from history- a fiction.

    So who is behind this campaign? Why? and what evidence exists that the Holocaust has already been dramatically denied? Let us first begin with the vital question of what really is Holocaust Denial?
    What is Holocaust denial?

    The publishing or broadcasting of a statement of denial that several million people were murdered by the Catholic Dictators in World War II is considered a serious crime in many European cities, including Germany.

    Given the criminal legal nature of Holocaust denial, the definition of denial is also qualified by most academics as to denying the “orthodoxy” of the Holocaust – that at least six million mainly Jews perished in gas chambers, their bodies cremated; that whole populations of Jews were systematically targeted and wiped out by the Nazis ; that it was done out of hateful racist political motives; that the allies had no knowledge of the Holocaust until liberation; that the Vatican and Jesuits were not involved; that there has been no revision in this history, nor denial of the truth.

    While there are many other pieces of history that go to support the “orthodoxy” – the prevailing view of the Holocaust, these major points are generally considered as mandatory for being taught to every child in the world on the Holocaust.

    Holocaust Deniers are therefore people who deny one or more of the major tenets of the Holocaust Orthodoxy- whether it be gas chambers, that the ovens were for the disposal of the bodies, the numbers actually murdered and/or some other key belief.

    People such as David Irving, are more famous Holocaust Deniers in the public domain at the moment. Their various views differ in emphasis, but are united in the claim that the Holocaust is grossly overstated and that many of the horrors claimed simply did not happen.

    Yet an even deeper problem exists in that the founding orthodoxy of what is claimed to be the “truth” and what are “lies” itself is highly questionable. The claim that the Allies did not know what was happening at Auschwitz—a bare faced lie, proven by subsequent historical evidence. The claim that the Roman Catholic Church was not involved is also a terrible evil lie—as proven by declassified Allied intelligence proving the Vatican not only hid Nazi War Criminals, but assisted in their escape from prosecution.

    If the truth of the Holocaust is something that cannot be extinguished, then there have already been no less than five major Holocaust Denials placed into the public consciousness – so successfully that no one would even consider them to be otherwise.

    Let us then look at the key Denials of the truth of the Vatican Jesuit Holocaust and how they have impacted our appreciation of the enormity and supreme evil nature of this event.
    Holocaust Denial # 1- The Allies Did Not Know

    We have spoken at length in the first article of this series of the Vatican Jesuit Holocaust that the Allies not only knew of the Human Sacrifice Camps, but actually kept accurate records on likely extermination rates via tracking rail movements.

    This is a terrible evil and slur against the memory of the millions who were murdered as it provides no honesty as to why not one single bomb in World War II was ever dropped on a key Nazi Human Sacrifice Camp- an extraordinary and unprecedented anomaly not repeated on any other infrastructure of the Catholic Dictators during World War II.
    Holocaust Denial #2-Victims were not burned alive as a sacrifice

    Of all the key denials of the Holocaust that have now successfully been inserted into popular culture it is the lie that victims of the Catholic Dictators in World War II were not burned alive – that the ovens were somehow part of an elaborate and expensive system designed to save money and “hide evidence”.

    The perversity of this elimination of the involvement of the Vatican is made even more perverse by the insistence of the Vatican on describing the mass murder by fire of over 18 million innocent people–The Holocaust.

    The word Holocaust is oldest theologically correct term still used in relation to the official doctrine of satanists in the burning of people alive. The word “Holocaust” is at least as old as the 3rd Century BCE and comes from the ancient Greek word holokauston, meaning “a completely (holos) burnt (kaustos) sacrificial offering”, or “a burnt sacrifice offered to God”.

    Therefore, by insisting the word “Holocaust” be used, the Vatican has hidden its complete complicity in such absolute evil and mass murder in the plain sight of the entire planet, with no one questioning its motive for such a word.

    One of the first sets of evidence to be destroyed by Allied command were the long metal stretchers used to carry people to the ovens—stretchers with locks on them so that a person chained on the stretcher could not free themselves.

    Nor were these ordinary stretchers, but extended so that a living man, woman or child may be inserted into the oven to die a horrible and cruel death, then for the body (still burning) to be removed a short time later to be transported to the pits.

    No credible excuse has yet been provided for these anomalies- existing only to restrain a “living person”, not a corpse and to enable the removal of a “corpse” well before it has been in the oven long enough to be significantly reduced to a few major bone fragments and ash.

    To remove any suspicion that the ovens were really used to sacrifice people alive and NOT for cremation, the Allies invented the claim that the gas chambers were used to kill people. This is a particularly horrible lie as it is ultimately unsustainable in the light of mechanical and environmental evidence concerning the use of poisonous chemical agents.

    Similarly, the massive bone pits containing the unburnt remains of victims from the Crematoriums were removed by Fr Joseph Stalin S.J. when he was handed Poland as part of the deal at Tehran in 1943 between the Allies.

    Yet no effort has been spared over seventy years to emphasize that the gas chambers did indeed function as chambers of death using highly poisonous chemical agents such as Zyklon-B, made by a pharmaceutical company famous for anesthesia nerve agents.
    Holocaust Denial #3-There were no gas chambers

    As awful and sloppy as David Irving is, he was provided some key technical knowledge that to date has yet to be refuted properly—that is it is impossible to feasibly operate a mass death by gassing operation as claimed by earlier Holocaust revisionism. The United States has extensive documentary evidence of the complexity of death by gassing thanks to the gas chambers used by several states up until recent years.

    The evidence suggests three things- it requires a massive amount of effort to maintain an air tight small room free of any leaks, secondly the handling of such deadly chemicals on any large scale would have required far more sophisticated systems as evidenced at the camps and thirdly it takes an extraordinarily long time for one person to die from gassing in a small room, let alone a whole number of people in a large space.

    So once the canisters used in the blocks went from nerve agents to render people unconscious in a few minutes, to a deadly gas to kill them, the whole technical feasibility of the holocaust is eventually called into question. The Jesuits who provided Irving with this key piece of information know this. So unless, the truth is revealed- the Nazis burned their victims alive in a religious sacrifice- the gas was just to knock them out for easier processing into the ovens – then Irving and the Vatican will win this debate.

    “There were no gas chambers” is now firmly a belief propagated by the Roman Catholic Church through its agents and gaining momentum.
    Holocaust Denial #4 – That the Jews were the main target of a political/racist hatred campaign”

    The Holocaust Denial that focuses the Holocaust on the Nazi approach to the “Jewish Question” is a horrible lie that has become accepted truth, designed mainly to narrow the focus of the Holocaust from a Catholic versus Heretics massacre -which included Orthodox Christians and Protestant Christian victims as well as Jews.

    Because the Holocaust has been deliberately branded as almost exclusively a Jewish event of tragedy, it has succeeded in diverting attention away from the millions of others who perished and the real defining barrier between who lived and who died — excluding some Polish Catholics, if you were Roman Catholic you lived, if you were a heretic you died.

    There is no question that several million ethnic Jews were sacrificed in the camps — but there were millions of non-Jews as well – a total of eighteen million people murdered.

    The Jewish focus of the Holocaust has been extremely important in eliminating the “Catholic question” from the actions of exclusively Catholic dictators including Adolf Hitler, Benito Mussolini, Fr Joseph Stalin S.J. Franco and Pavelic.

    It also set the stage for one of the greatest Holocaust Denials and revisions of the past seventy years- that only six million people were sacrificed by the Catholic Dictators.
    Holocaust Denial #5- The Holocaust was political, not religious. The Catholic Church was not involved

    One of the most extraordinarily successful Holocaust Denials of the past seventy years has been the successful erasure from public memory of the involvement of the Catholic Church in World War II and specifically the Holocaust.

    Today, most people would never have heard the claim that the Catholic Church not only orchestrated World War II, but was behind the Holocaust. But the most important denial that has helped wipe the Catholic Church from the memory of the Holocaust is the false claim that the Holocaust was political, not religious.

    Common sense and historic fact proves the cheapest way to dispose of people over thousands of years was to simply starve them and then dig a big hole and put the bodies in it. Yet the Nazis went to extraordinary effort and expense to build the sacrifice camps- effort that could and should have been used directly towards the war effort.

    You don’t burn people alive for political reasons- you burn them because of evil religious beliefs — because you are satanists, because you have some agenda. We have discussed much of this over the previous articles.

    Yet the overwhelming belief by people is that the Holocaust was purely political, not religious and that the Catholic Church was in no way involved.
    Holocaust Denial #6- Only Six Million were murdered by the Nazis

    The belief that six million people, overwhelmingly Jewish were murdered by the Nazis is the prevailing cultural belief of 99% of the world. It also happens to be a horrendous lie and denial of the truth of the Holocaust.

    Firstly, to reduce the logical time that the Nazis had to kill people, the Allied command shortened the time claimed for when the camps were operating from 1940-1945 to just 1943-1945. Straight away, the logical number of people who could have been killed diminished from at least twelve million to just six million.

    But to hide more evidence of killing, both the Allies and the Communists of Fr Joseph Stalin S.J. destroyed evidence of sacrifice camps and/or changed them to labour camps.

    It is because of the success of this horrendously evil Holocaust denial- the denial of the truth that at least eighteen million innocent people were sacrificed — that the latest Holocaust Denial has been launched- that only 300,000 died.
    Holocaust Denial #7- Only Three Hundred Thousand people were murdered by the Nazis

    This sixth key Holocaust Denial- that the Nazis killed less than three hundred thousand people is the latest and most audacious denial yet.

    And it is extraordinary that this denial is being played out by none other than the Roman Catholic Church — the Vatican at this very moment.

    This denial, the one designed to wholly revise the Holocaust again is based on bringing together all the other denials into one — simply that “there were no gas chambers and common sense tells us the Nazis could not possibly have killed so many people in such bizarre ways”.

    One of the strongest pieces of evidence that permits such a lie to unfold is the false claim that the ovens were designed to “dispose of the bodies”. In major crematoriums around the world, an awful truth that is known is that a substantial amount of bone matter remains even after being subjected to several hours of extreme heat.

    So quite simply, by falsely claiming the ovens were principally designed to dispose of the bodies defies logic and common sense as the time to “destroy” the evidence for even one body would render the number of people murdered impossible and secondly, there would have existed a massive amount of forensic evidence in bone fragments from all the victims.

    In fact the evidence that bodies were removed minutes after being murdered from the ovens and dumped into smouldering pits does exist at every camp. However, for some unexplained reason this crucial fact has been denied by the Allies since they captured the camps at the end of World War II. To deliberately hide the existence of these pits, some Nazi collaborators even came up with the story that these pits were Nazi attempts at “open mass cremation” – yet another absurd lie.

    As wholly evil as this denial is, it has the strength of the other denials in place. And in spite of the debate, the denial is gaining ground in the mind of the public — maybe the Holocaust is overblown?
    Do not forget the biggest lie- the Holocaust gas chambers and crematorium were to efficiently kill Jews and others

    It is easy to become overwhelmed by the millions of words written about the Holocaust, even the few thousand written within these articles. So it is important to re-emphasize the most potent evidence of all concerning the deliberate lies concocted by the Allies to hide the bloody hand of the Vatican in not just supporting the Holocaust- but designing it and ordering it to be done: The claim that the Holocaust was a Nazi plan for “efficient genocide” is the most absurd, illogical and clearly contradictory lies ever to be sold to the public.

    It would have taken Nazi engineers just days to dig massive trenches and force people into them, either to be buried alive or shot. Millions could have been efficiently dispatched in weeks, not years and through quick lime- much of the evidence destroyed.

    Instead, our governments would have us believe that the extreme expense of building camps, rail roads, gas chambers, guards, crematoria and other infrastructure was all about “efficiency”.

    Yet the incredible thing about this Great Big Lie- that defies and contradicts all previous known examples of efficient mass murder – is that it is continued to be taught to each new generation and believed by hundreds of millions.

    Why? Because the second a man or woman with an ounce of intelligence comprehends that the Holocaust, the gas chambers and ovens could not have all been constructed for “efficient mass murder” it begs the question – why go to such extreme expense?

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