Ep46-Talk about Sofia

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We started the show with Supertramp. Were they a controlled message band since their inception? We then quickly went to talk about Sofia’s movie, and who she is. We were joined by Markus Allen, Robin Fisher, Rollo, and Banazir.

This is a long edition, largely rambling, but you may find some truth in it. We may do some RAW calls and record them in the future, they make look like this broadcast.

Showtime: Saturday, June 29, 2013 9:11pm EDT

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Supertramp Crime Of The Century Lyrics

Now they’re planning the crime of the century
Well what will it be?
Read all about their schemes and adventuring
It’s well worth a fee
So roll up and see
And they rape the universe
How they’ve gone from bad to worse
Who are these men of lust, greed, and glory?
Rip off the masks and let’s see.
But that’s not right – oh no, what’s the story?
There’s you and there’s me
That can’t be right

Your homework: review the following two videos, and let’s talk about them.

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[youtube youtu.be/-GHnh42MDhA%5D

I have reached out to Sofia for an interview, but she has declined. She didn’t like negative comments she received on Fetzer’s shows, so she was worried my listeners would be negative. I find her a good speaker with good theories on .

I will review the above vids before the show tomorrow. We’ll talk a bit about them and abirato.info as well.

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34 thoughts on “Ep46-Talk about Sofia

  1. ala samoan

    I remember that one, it was a great talk. Marcus Allen quote: “how is God not a quote” Not long after this talk Marcus did a 2 hour talk on cults with Robert Lego, once again he calls out God as some kind of cult figure head.

    Unfortunately Marcus has no idea who God or Jesus Christ is, maybe if he spent sometime in the Word he might have a better comprehension why God is not a cult. What he is describing is man made religion or some kind of organization such as truth in 7 minutes. He needs to wake up and get on the right side.

  2. JohnnyClues

    Your welcome Tim
    It definitely turned into a RAW that night…The episode was filled with interesting talk, humour, all 5 did a great job imo….
    Just wanna say “I mean no disrespect” by posting this tidbit from ep46, in light of Mandela’s recent passing(so we are told)….But this statement, at the time was quite humorous to me, still makes me chuckle.

    ” Markus And Ab discuss Mandela”
    @44:35 – …” I keep looking at the news and I can’t tell if they’re saying… he’s dead or not, that’s how unclear it is, it’s almost like a Psyop in itself, like you were saying there. No he’s still ailing, now I’m just looking at real time coverage @news.google.ca….he’s still ailing…so…maybe he will die in Obama’s arms? What do you think?…..no, he’s not dead yet. I’m sorry…..Not Dead Yet …. N-D-Y…….Will he die in Obama’s arms, that’s the question.”

  3. JohnnyClues

    Ep46 is certainly one of my favorite episodes I’ve listened to many times.(gotta love that price is right stumper! – Ab was certainly “on” that night imo lol)

  4. Gabriel

    I would like Ab to have a show where Robin can tell us more about his views. Robin asks the right questions to explore why we are here and what our purpose is. After becoming aware and seeing the darkness of this world that question is even more important to me. This was one of the best shows by the way. I like the discussion format more than interviews.

  5. Peter

    I agree about Robin. What a waste of bandwidth. I grew up in the Bible belt and had my own religious instruction. I don’t need to listen to anyone preaching. I have Several bibles in different languages and my own library of comparative religion and his views on the subject are very brittle and not very nuanced.

  6. aj

    Man! Man! Man! That guy Robin has got to go! I don’t want to hear him anymore. He was very disrespectful to Markus and I think he hurt the show as opposed to contributing. I think he’s a shill or a distraction or whatever the word is. Basically, I don’t think he’s real.

  7. IGestalta

    “Christianity/religion is a control mechanism”.

    You realize that the Masoretic text is the most foundationally anti-establishment literature on the planet, right? You’re thinking of Catholicism, which has nothing in common with Christianity, whatsoever.

    “God is a cult”

    For one, the statement makes no syntactical sense. Secondly, Christianity is not a religion, it is a supernatural experience—a divine revelation of truth and wisdom. Mormonism, Jehovah’s Witnesses, Seventh Day Adventism, etc; those are cults. Christianity is a spiritual transformation which defies humanistic reasoning.

    If you want to understand the truth about Christianity, you need to start with the historicity of Christ. Once you understand, on an academic/scholarly level, that Christ was a real person who existed, did great things and claimed great things, you can start to put the pieces together from there.

    Most people think of Levitical/Mosaic/Abrahamic laws when they think of Christianity, which is typically a result of a lack of true research; and it is this rationale which causes people to conclude that Christianity is a religion. What they fail to realize, however, is that even when God was making these covenants, He was clearly saying that the laws are created for the conditioning of His people for Christ’s coming—He explicitly states that the laws mean nothing to Him in terms of the salvation of man, and they exist only as a means disciplining them on a surface-level, for the time being. God stated that one would come who would give humans a “new heart”, one “made of flesh”, such that we would no longer need laws which don’t actually rectify our fallen nature.

    The major portion of Jesus’s ministry on earth was a systematic rebuking of man-made laws, works-based attempts at salvation, etc. Jesus was basically calling out arbitrary religiosity for the hypocrisy that it is!

    You gotta do your homework, people. Going into google, typing “why religion is a cult”, “list of bible contradictions” and “Jesus never existed” is the same as typing “9/11 conspiracy theories” on rationalwiki, etc. That’s not research!

    Truth is not relative!

  8. gottfriedleibniz

    Markus Allen is kind of a waste of time. He is promoting selfishness? Selfishness is just another word for greed. Anyone who promotes selfishness as the ultimate answer is a retard, IMHO. Ayn Randian retardedness.

    Robin is right, but he needs to let Markus talk. I feel that Robin has good intentions, but he can’t express himself well sometimes.

    Markus didn’t listen to Robin’s answer as to why “God is not a cult”. Robin’s answer is that we don’t know what created what everything unless there is a God.

    This is much like what Aristotle said: God is the prime mover. 1. Everything has a cause. 2. Something caused the universe to exist. 3. The being that created the universe would need to have a cause, since everything has a cause. 4. But then that would have a cause, ad infinitum. 5. In order for the universe to have been created, it is logically necessary to have a prime mover, that was not created.

    I feel the same way about Markus that Robin says: he is disingenuous. I don’t trust him.

  9. Aral Sea

    The idea of RAW calls is good Ab. Sometimes off the record conversations are just as good or better than the “show” ones. Just let people know they are being recorded.

    Fetzer I am not sure he is controlled. I think he is just entangled in his own web.

  10. gottfriedleibniz

    It’s too bad that I didn’t listen to this show. You guys are completely off course in your assessment of Sofia.

    I know Sofia, and she is not a disinfo operative. Sofia is a real person and very honest.

    1. You are criticizing 9/11 mysteries, which Sofia did about 10 years ago. At the time, the main movie discussing 9/11 Truth was “Loose Change”. Sofia’s movie helped to show the real actors behind the hoax. But unfortunately, her research was limited to what was available at the time, and there was a lot of disinfo being put out on the net.

    I loved “9/11 Mysteries” when it came out, and I thought Sofia was a hero. But when I said this to Sofia, she said that she no longer believes a lot of what she put in that movie. “Don’t you know? There were no planes on 9/11!” That is what Sofia told me about 3 years ago.

    I was in a conference call with Sofia and some others, and we were discussing the thermite question. Sofia was determined to expose the fact that Thermite is not explosive, and that the publication of thermite-9/11 research was disinfo. There was a researcher Mark… somebody, I forget, who is a PhD in chemistry (or something like that) who said that he would donate $1,000 to some charity if anyone could find a published study that showed the explosive properties of thermite.

    (At the time, I was more reluctant to abandon thermite, since I had found two patents that discussed concrete/building demolition using thermite. Whatever.)

    My point here is that Sofia has long abandoned, and has actively worked against promoting the disinformation that had worked its way into “9/11 Mysteries”. It is unfortunate that you couldn’t have her on the show because she would have told you that right off the bat. Sofia could also tell you how her video had been kept off the market by an operative who used copyright law to tie her up in the courts.

    Sofia is an independent business woman. She finances herself. She doesn’t get money from the government. She is always working on business ventures.

    Bottom line is that you can’t judge Sofia by 9/11 Mysteries. She thought it was the truth when it came out, but she know longer believes in many things that the movie asserts.

    1. ab Post author

      I realize it’s an old movie. I would have liked to have her on, especially since you say she’s changed her tune. Her current views of Sandy Hoax seem quite close to mine. This is why I wanted to have her on. Maybe she will be swayed by today’s show.

  11. Yoda

    being British I have to out joke the lovely Aussie:

    What do you call an animal with an arse-hole halfway up its back?
    a police horse!

    – boom boom!

    What a great show – really enjoyed it – thanks to all.

  12. atil

    Dear Marcus, your twitter anecdote was remarkably similar to Wikipedia –

    The tipping point for Twitter’s popularity was the 2007 South by Southwest Interactive (SXSWi) conference. During the event, Twitter usage increased from 20,000 tweets per day to 60,000.[24] “The Twitter people cleverly placed two 60-inch plasma screens in the conference hallways, exclusively streaming Twitter messages,” remarked Newsweek’s Steven Levy. “Hundreds of conference-goers kept tabs on each other via constant twitters. Panelists and speakers mentioned the service, and the bloggers in attendance touted it.”[25]

    but you did it in 2006? Freaking clever that dude!

  13. ab Post author

    Celebration is a census-designated place (CDP) and a master-planned community in Osceola County, Florida, United States, located near Walt Disney World Resort and originally developed by The Walt Disney Company. As part of the Orlando–Kissimmee Metropolitan Statistical Area, Celebration’s population was 7,427 at the 2010 census.[3]

  14. robinmfisher

    Hope the listeners have a better time hearing the truth, with hope, than some marketing lesson. Markus needs to grow some balls and if he likes marketing, paywalls and such, so much, than he should go hang out on AOL or Google and make friends there, probably fit in better where he wouldn’t have to lie so much. Singularity, death? Come on. These deceptive, ignorant, gullible, ideas are child’s play. The truth is all around, for those with eyes to see and ears to hear. You want the truth, you have to step up to the plate.

    Matthew 7:13-14
    Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
    14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

    1 John 3
    Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.

    Matthew 6:19-21
    19 Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:
    20 But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:
    21 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.

    Luke 4:5-6
    And the devil, taking him up into an high mountain, shewed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time.
    6 And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it.

    James 4:4
    Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.

    Proverbs 28:5
    5 Evil men understand not judgment: but they that seek the Lord understand all things.

    1. atii

      the truth or troothers are turning true into entertainment by morons like marcus, as you said there is no sincerity in him.

      Robin – for what its worth I really respect you.

  15. ab Post author


    No one is 100 percent certain of the number of people who died in World War 2 but it experts believe the figure is around the 50-70 million people killed in as a result of World War 2. It can vary as to were you look, as for example Wikipedia has a great article on how many people died in world war 2 World War2 which leans towards the scary figure of 72 million people.

    It is important to note that these figures are even more scary when you break them down.

    World War 2 was split into two sides, the Allies (UK, USA) and Axis (Germany Italy and Japan) Of those killed, 61 million were on the Allied side and 11 million were on the Axis side, so the losses where massive.

      1. El Sushi

        I remember watching that documentary just before September Clues…and well, to me, she’s part of the controlled opposition. The movie documentary itself appears to be to well produced and edited, and is in many ways similar to Loose Change except that Sofia’s narrative voice is very efficient at seducing your cognitive perception.That’s actually what I remember the most from that documentary…that voice.

    1. Banazir

      Hey Markus. What are yout thoughts on Jim Fetzer? I hear from some he’s controlled. I’ve heard him once now, not enough to make a decision.

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