Ep47-Flat Earth Discussion

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Pre-recorded interview with Robin Fisher

Moonfacts for kids from NASA:

 

 

 

 

lro.gsfc.nasa.gov/moonfacts.ht…

[youtube youtu.be/zIcCmuz7PGw%5D

Square and Stationary Earth.
www.thehistoryblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Orlando-Ferguson-flat-earth-map.jpg

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giant_impact_hypothesis
Theia’s mythological role as the mother of the Moon goddess Selene is alluded to in the application of the name to a HYPOTHETICAL planet which, according to the giant impact hypothesis, collided with the Earth, resulting in the Moon’s creation.
(Mysticism – Occult doctrine)

Journal of Geophysical Sciences, Solid Earth – Lunar and planetary Science Conference proceedings papers – 0;Moon to coalesce and reach hydrostatic equilibrium. between gravity and pressure, forming a spherical object. This has all been MATHEMATICALLY modeled.”  – ” it’s core is “off center.”

Moon is a oblate spheroid.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spheroid
– an ellipsoid with TWO EQUAL (opposing) semi-diameters.

If Apollo missions didn’t happen, as is almost impossible based on physics and research, then how does one account for Lunar Meteorites being testable or comparable to Moon rocks.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_meteorite
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_lunar_meteorites

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apatite
Moon rocks collected by astronauts during the Apollo program contain traces of apatite

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phosphorus
The first form of elemental phosphorus to be produced (white phosphorus, in 1669) emits a faint glow upon exposure to oxygen – hence its name given from Greek mythology, meaning 0;light-bearer” (Latin Lucifer).
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hennig_Brand
…did not diminish over time (and did not need re-exposure to light like the previously discovered… Brand at first tried to keep the method secret, but later sold the recipe for 200 thalers to D Krafft from Dresden, who could now make it as well, and toured much of Europe with it, including England, where he met with Robert Boyle.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Boyle
Rosicrucian 18th Degree Freemason – Invisible College – Gresham College
Elemental phosphorus exists in two major forms—white phosphorus and red phosphorus
Google Glowing Phosphorus

Rockets.
If a rocket worked in space it only proves that there is an atmosphere in space which creates balance on the inner and outer parts of the space vessel.
The gasses are expanding rapidly out of one end of the rocket, but they are expanding into a vacuum, this vacuum is ‘sucking’ on the gasses as quick as they expand so the net result is zero force in one direction. Many people think that if oxygen and fuel is carried it makes a difference. But the principles of a vacuum does not cater for this man-made theory. All a vacuum wants is to be filled with something and anything. If some thing is expanding in a vacuum it will do so without any resistance because it has the aid of the vacuum itself.

In 1903, Konstantin Tsiolkovsky published (The Exploration of Cosmic Space by Means of Reaction Devices), the first serious scientific work on space travel. The Tsiolkovsky rocket equation—the principle that governs rocket propulsion. He also advocated the use of liquid hydrogen and oxygen for propellant, calculating their maximum exhaust velocity.

The delta-v needed to achieve low earth orbit starts around….
Factor 10-4
8 643 (m/s)
9.4km/s – 11.2 (33,840km/h – 40,000)

Max speed liquid oxygen/liquid hydrogen rockets (16,063km/h)
Factor 10-3
4,500 (m/s)
16,000 (km/h)
10,000 (mph)
A typical value for the specific impulse of current rockets.
Propellant mix – liquid oxygen/liquid hydrogen
Vacuum Isp (seconds) – 455
Effective exhaust velocity (m/s) – 4462

As of 2013, the X-15 holds the official world record for the fastest speed ever reached by a manned aircraft. Its maximum speed was 4,520 miles per hour (7,274 km/h).

Factor 10-3
1,400 (m/s),
5,040 (km/h)
3,100 (mph)
Speed of the Space Shuttle when the solid rocket boosters separate.

Operational altitude: 100 to 520 nmi (190 to 960 km; 120 to 600 mi)
Speed: 7,743 m/s (27,870 km/h; 17,320 mph)
Crossrange: 1,085 nmi (2,009 km; 1,249 mi)
First Stage (SSME with external tank) Main engines: Three Rocketdyne Block II SSMEs, each with a sea level thrust of 393,800 lbf (1.752 MN) at 104% power
Thrust (at liftoff, sea level, 104% power, all 3 engines): 1,181,400 lbf (5.255 MN)
Specific impulse: 455 s
Burn time: 480 s
Fuel: Liquid Oxygen/Liquid Hydrogen

Second Stage Engines: 2 Orbital Maneuvering Engines
Thrust: 53.4 kN (12,000 lbf) combined total vacuum thrust
Specific impulse: 316 s
Burn time: 1250 s
Fuel: MMH/N2O4

The rocket boys seem to think that just because the decreasing mass associated with the burning fuel allows the rocket to accelerate (gain velocity as opposed to maintaining a constant velocity) that–somehow – this magically allows the rocket to accelerate to a velocity greater than that of its exhaust– which is typical nonsense. It can accelerate, but not beyond the velocity of its own exhaust. Acceleration and maximum velocity are apples and oranges.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Whiteside_Parsons
led an American lodge of Crowley’s magical order, Ordo Templi Orientis (O.T.O.)
principal founders of the Jet Propulsion Laboratory

The Shuttle has a whole host of problems associated with its airframe shape (tail section, leading edges/wing width/construction – and other details) and function of the shock wave (heat from the compression of the air resulting from the shockwave accompanied by stagnant subsonic flow at supersonic speeds), and of materials/epoxy able to cope with the kinetic heating and drag.

The Shuttle’s (TPS) is the barrier that protected the Shuttle Orbiter during the searing 1,650 °C (3,000 °F) heat of atmospheric reentry (especially on the aluminium frame because the orbiter’s aluminum structure could not withstand temperatures over 175 °C (347 °F) without structural failure.)
1,668 °C – Titanium, Melting point (90 percent of the SR-71 is titanium)
1000 degrees Fahrenheit equals degrees Celsius 537.78
The strength of epoxy adhesives is degraded at temperatures above 350 °F (177 °C).
The SR-71’s heat generated during flight can reach over 1000 degrees F., with an average of over 600 degrees, that causes the fuselage to expand in flight from 4 to 6 inches in length. The component parts of the Blackbird fit very loosely to allow for expansion at high temperatures. At rest on the ground fuel leaks out constantly, since the large tanks only seal at operating temperatures.

Clues Forum – Why Rocketry Doesn’t Work in the Vacuum
cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?…
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dRUM
dRUM
8 years ago

Check this out….and listen to the lyric
youtu.be/6Al_3_N_Bko

video shows : WTC 9/11 , Burn , Chemtrails , bad ass actor siting on the bench reading newspaper

Tom-Dalpra
Dal Tampra(@tom)
8 years ago

Thanks people. Ab, Robin and Jan particularly with your sincere ( hey, I’ll take a leap of faith and say ‘I think you’re real’ ) efforts. It seems this is where I arrive on my 9/11 journey of 8 years. Unlike Smj, I welcome this juncture. The big questions of life itself. As Robin says, nothing doesn’t exist. It’s a scientific impossibility. It’s like each week – revealed – the next great psy-op of history – they got us believing in NOTHING! Doh! Haha. It’s liberating to realise and I love you for that. Thanks for the sanity and your… Read more »

Jan Erik Hansen
Jan Erik(@jan-erik-hansen)
8 years ago

Origin of Nihilism It was the 18th century Friedrich Jacobi (b.1743-d.1819) who actually first coined the term nihilism to describe the relativistic and superficial philosophies of several Jewish “Enlightenment” leaders such as Spinoza, Kant and Fichte. Later it was Georg Friedrich Hegel (b.1770-d.1831) that gave further life to this pseudo-philosophy of nihilism and he did so by mimicking and plagiarizing the academics works of Thomas Aquinas, Plato and Aristotle. The proof of this is no better exhibited when one looks at the over-arching strategies of the New World Order where people mention what is regarded as the Hegelian Dialectic, a… Read more »

gottfriedleibniz
8 years ago
Reply to  Jan Erik

Jan Erik, I am in agreement with much of what you propose here, but you lost me at the application of nihilism in religion. I believe you have it nearly backwards at this point, and your own inconsistency points this out. Up above you note that Aquinas was plagiarized by the nihilists. I would like to see your source for this, but I am in agreement that it was the perversion of the classical philosophy, i.e. the natural law, that has brought society into ruin. Aquinas has been able to incorporate the ideas of Aristotle into the Catholic Philosophy, which… Read more »

Jan Erik Hansen
Jan Erik(@jan-erik-hansen)
8 years ago

The argument “God is Dead” is one of the most infamous and most arrogant claims of the Nihilists since one of its high priests Friedrich Nietzsche proclaimed at the end of the 19th Century “God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. How shall we, murderers of all murderers, console ourselves? . . . Is not the greatness of this deed too great for us? Must we not ourselves become gods simply to be worthy of it?” (Nietzsche, The Gay Science, §125). Despite his fame at such hubris, Nietzsche offered no reasoned nor logical arguments, except his… Read more »

smj
smj
8 years ago

I appreciate what you are trying to do. You and chris kendall are keeping it real; maybe the only ones doing so. That said, I’m contacting you to beg of you allow robin to work out his existential dilemma on his own time. I am tired of the american mullah routine. the earth might be flat and if it is it has nothing to do with how robin feels or knows about his particular diety. The beginning and end of any conversation with robin should be ” so tell me r what created your god. Why is there anything and… Read more »

BigFish
robinmfisher(@bigfish)
8 years ago
Reply to  smj

Why is there anything rather than nothing? No thing? And as a thing, nothing would have… Size = 0 Power = 0 Intelligence =0 Existence = none The size of zero is wrong, once you get that, you have a size. It’s zero size, but it’s still size. And then you have to get rid of power, power has to be powerless. And intelligence, can’t have any intelligence. And existence, no existence. Conclusion. Nothing is IMPOSSIBLE. If nothing is impossible, than everything that is not nothing should be existing. That is called the inverse. And the inverse of nothing is….… Read more »

ala samoan
ala samoan
8 years ago
Reply to  robinmfisher

My beliefs are simple; God created us in his image. It’s hard for a non-believer to understand that we are in a spiritual battle. Those of us who had submitted and receive Christ as our saviour can see another side to the deceit and truth. Those who have the sprit of The Lord in them have a different understanding when reading the bible, why because the bible is a spiritual book. As truth seekers we all want to know who is at the top of the pyramid. We want to know who is screwing us, bombarding us with predictive programming… Read more »

smj
smj
8 years ago
Reply to  robinmfisher

I have no problem with people expressing their faith. I’m just tired of hearing fundamentalists equate their faith with empirical data. Thanks for your reply. You, sir, are a badass.

smj
smj
8 years ago
Reply to  robinmfisher

Yes, apparently I am the fool. As airtight as it obviously is, I can’t follow your argument.