Dustban 14 with Jan Erik

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  1. Banazîr Galbasi

    Dust Ban 14
    Recorded 2014-05-08. Guest: Jan Erik.

    SUBDIVISIONS, Who Writes the Lyrics?, Promoted to the Top, Bono’s House, Stanley Cup Predictions, Olympic Hockey, Foot Ball, The Money System, Social Darwinism, The Lucifer Slavery Hierarchy, Breaking Down and Reorganizing the Pyramid, Moral Relativity, War Speed, 70 Year Cycle, Reality Reversed, Snakes and Ladders, Being Bossy, Blow Up Your Video, Ellen G. White 1901, Excavating the Future, Prophets, Concealed Technology, Sub-Humans, Money: The Tool of all Evil, Dr. Evil, Proof of a Concave Earth, Where the Wild Things Are, Skycentrism, The Bible Code Book, The Philosopher Kings, Crystal Sky Universe, Lord Steven Christ, Flat Earth Society, Album Covers, Living in a Box, Slave Music, Dusty Get Reprimanded, Jan Eschews Money, Kramer, The Families, Power and Control of the World, Elite Water Cooler Talk, Speaking the Language, Dusty Choses Slavery First, Animal Masters, Scavenging History, Movie Revelations, Quitting TV Cold Turkey, Free Propaganda, Real Life is Boring, 150’s a Crowd, Tribal Paradise, Generation Gap, Seasonal Work, I Threw a Brick Through the Window, Phasing Out Christianity, Distinguishing Science from Science, Not for Our Benefit, The Bat NSA, The Real Matrix, Pre-Crime, “Women”, Ritual Mocking, Jan Declares: ‘Women are Perfect the Way they Are’, Experimenting on Three Year Olds, Brave New World, Predictive Programming, When In Rome, 1001 Club, The Next Big Psyop, 9/11 Classic Movie of the Week, Retired Debt Slaves, Shaping Our Perception, The Next Generation, Jan Yawns, NEW WORLD MAN.

    1. Shane

      This was a really good show. Really great to hear everything Jan Erik has to say. You can’t learn enough from him. Thanks guys for such an awesome show.

  2. Jan Erik

    Transcript of Social Structure in Plato’s Republic
    Social Structure in Plato’s the Republic The Noble Lie There are three distinct classes of individuals within the state which Plato first discusses in Book IV. Each classes had there own metallic property these are Gold, Silver, and Bronze.
    Bronze are the Producers (farmers, miners, industrial workers etc)
    Silver are the Auxiliaries (military)
    Gold are the Guardians (rulers of the state [philosophers]) Guardians The Guardians Social Structure in Platos The Republic The Noble Lie In the Republic Platos divided social classes into three categories. To do this uses what is the called the “Noble Lie”. Every citizen of the Republic is born with a metallic property
    Gold for the Guardians (leaders/philosophers)
    Silver for the Auxilaries (soldiers/protectors of the state)
    Bronze for the producers (workers/labourers) Guardians Guardians of the state have to be specially educated to fulfill this role. This was outlind by Plato in Book 7. The two main areas that Guardian are educated in are:
    Maths (including gemoetry, harmonics, astronomy, and basic arithmetic)
    Dialetic (a method of logical argumentation) Plato also believed that to begin his new regime all citizens over the age of 10 needed to be expelled from the Republic to create a clean slate. “We shall”, i said, tell our citizens, the following tale:

    “You are, all of you in this commnuity, brothers. But when God fashioned you, he added Gold in the compoistion of thoose who are qualitifed to be rulers… he put Silver in the Auxilaries, and Iron and Bronze in the farmers and otehr workers. Women Plato discusses the role of women in the republic in Book 5. He believed that men and women had no reason not to perform the same duties. He compared them with an anlogy of guardogs.
    “They will be bred deliberately to produce the best offspring, as though the Guardians were a pack of hunting dogs” Breeding The Guardians must live in poverty, with any possessions they do have held in common. The very things, then, that mean the most to the commoners will be denied to the rulers. Historically, the precedent for something like this was Sparta, though the Spartans didn’t go quite this far. This does seems to be the first serious proposal in political history for something like complete communism, though it does only apply to the Guardians. It doesn’t seem like a bad idea even today to apply to politicians. Nevertheless women were still seen as weaker.
    This can be seen to reflect the influence of Greek
    society upon Plato. Even Plato realizes that such cold blooded match making might be too much for the Guardians, so he proposes that the process be kept secret from most of them. Every year, after the breeding committee secretly makes its choices, there is to be a kind of fertility festival. Everyone chooses names by lot, and the name they draw, or no name, is the choice of the gods for them. This is the kind of thing that Plato calls a “noble lie”; for the lottery is to be rigged by the breeding committee. Women as Guardians? Plato wanted the best Guardians to bred with

    each other, to produce the best “stock” Auxilaries Protectors Silver Warriors Police Civil Servants The auxiliaries are the warriors, responsible for defending the city from invaders, and for keeping the peace at home. They must enforce the convictions of the guardians, and ensure that the producers obey.
    Peace keepers Defenders Producers The producing class is the largest class of society; it is a catch-all group that includes all professions other than warrior and ruler. Framers and craftsmen are producers, as are merchants, doctors, artists, actors, lawyers, judges, and so forth. In a just society, the producers have no share in ruling, but merely obey what the rulers decree. They focus exclusively on producing whatever it is that they are best suited to produce (whether that be metal work, agriculture, shoes, or furniture).
    Farmers Craftsmen Labourers Industrial Workers Merchants Doctors Actors Judges Bronze Modern Day Plato Producers Auxilaries Guardians VS. Lower Middle Upper The upper class in Britain is statistically very small and consists of the peerage, gentry, and hereditary landowners. These people were traditionally the wealthiest in the land having inherited money and position The upper middle class in Britain consists of people who were born into families that traditionally possessed higher incomes, although this group is defined more by family background than by job or income. The upper middle class in Britain traditionally consisted of professionals with tertiary education. The upper middle class are traditionally educated at more prestigious private schools.
    The lower middle class in Britain consists of people in white collar jobs living in less prosperous suburbs. They are employed in white-collar but relatively unskilled service industry jobs such as retail sales, rail ticket agents, railway guards, airline stewardesses and ticket agents, travel agents, hotel clerks, shipping clerks, transportation dispatchers and low level civil service jobs in local and regional government. This group consists of the long-term unemployed, and elderly pensioners, economic immigrants, dependent on state benefits. Many would be in public housing or council estates.

  3. Jan Erik

    Berenberg family: The Berenberg family, and later its descendants in the Gossler and Seyler families, is a Hanseatic dynasty of merchants, bankers and senators based in Hamburg and with branches in Livorno and other European cities, and one of the world’s oldest existing banking dynasties with a history spanning over 400 years. The family is descended from Flemish brothers Hans and Paul Berenberg (“Bear Mountain”) from Antwerp (in modern Belgium), who fled persecution of Protestants in the Low Countries in 1585 and established the merchant house now known as Berenberg Bank in Hamburg in 1590. Berenberg Bank is Germany’s oldest bank, the world’s second oldest bank and also the world’s oldest family owned bank. The Berenbergs were originally cloth merchants and have been merchant bankers and investment bankers since the 17th century. The family has had a close relationship to the Dutch-origined Amsinck merchant family over centuries and is also descended from the Welser banking family.

    As Johann Berenberg died without male heirs, the bank was passed on to his daughter Elisabeth Berenberg (1749–1822) and her family. Elisabeth’s husband Johann Hinrich Gossler was made co-owner and heir by his father in law in 1769, and Gossler made his own son in law Ludwig Erdwin Seyler a partner in 1788. From 1790, Elisabeth was a partner in her own right, before passing control to Seyler and her son Johann Heinrich Gossler alone in 1800. The latter’s grandson Johann Gossler was granted the name Berenberg-Gossler by the Senate of Hamburg in 1880, subsequently ennobled by Prussia in 1888 and granted the title Baron in 1910. The bank is still owned by his descendants, the von Berenberg-Gossler family.

    The Berenberg family and later the Gossler (Berenberg-Gossler) and Seyler families belonged to the ruling class of the city republic, known as Grand Burghers or Hanseaten, enjoying hereditary legal privileges (abolished 1918), and the Berenbergs were represented in the senate from 1735. From 1821, several Gosslers were also senators, and Hermann Gossler reached the highest position in Hamburg society as First Mayor and President of the Senate (i.e. head of state and head of government of the city republic and equal to the federal princes). Richard J. Evans describes the family as one of Hamburg’s “great business families.”[1] The Gossler Islands in Antarctica are named for the family.

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berenber…

  4. Jan Erik

    The core strength of Commonwealth Law Form as a sovereign system of control is the continued unique manipulation of the mind of those at each and every core level of society:

    (i) At the lowest level of the worker, the pauper control is achieved by making all commodities essential to survival controlled by trade, market price and the availability of money. The generation of money is then controlled by placing a meager value on work so survival is by subsistence, so the focus of the worker and pauper is on survival and not organized revolt or rebellion; and

    (ii) At the level of the trader, merchant and entrepreneur control is achieved through patronage as acceptance to the elite (lower rungs of peers) and through the prospect of making fortunes through the exploitation of the poor and extortion of other traders; and

    (iii) At the level of the professional clerks, military and administrators, control is achieved through discipline and reward for enforcement against traders and the rebellious poor, with cyclical promotion of persecutions to maintain base levels of fear and obedience; and

    (iv) At the level of nobles and bankers, control is achieved by privilege, great wealth and threat of loss if disobedient; and

    (v) At the level of the monarch, control is achieved by periodic sacrifice of not only a king or queen, but the entire family line wiped from history by the military orders and enforcers of the Venetian – Pisan families of the “State of the Sea”.

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