Chemtrails are airborne waste dumps

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I get poked about chemtrails many  times,  but I really am not avoiding the topic for any particular reason other than I don’t see them as anything other than contrails. Iff I had to pick a reason behind them iff they are not contrails, then I think the KISS principle applies to Miles’ explanation here.

Other tidbits include good jabs at Fetzer, Goldbug and other confusion and disinformation.

H/T Blue Moon

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15 thoughts on “Chemtrails are airborne waste dumps

  1. Henkus

    I also ALWAYS get emotional when this topic comes up.
    Of all these responses I can only think that the people who STILL think chemtrails do not exist live in areas where you never or almost never see them.

    Where I live (=Amsterdam) chemtrails are promoted as being solar radiation management (via the EU).
    I have no idea if this is the real reason or the real goal BUT it is all supposed to be about climate change and making sure the we don’t get as much sunlight because the sun….is bad or something?

    I did not see the term solar radiation management here.
    Just a small contribution from someone who gets emotional if the word chemtrails is even mentioned.

  2. babette

    Blue Moon: You don’t see them as anything other than “contrails?’ ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!

    Since when do contrails STOP and START? Since when do commercial planes perform aerial acrobatics on their way from point A to point B?! Since when do contrails linger for hours, spreading out to coat the sky in a whitish-silvery miasma?!

    You smug, lazy, arrogant m f**kers really burn me up!

    1. Carole Thomas

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        1. ab Post author

          Dear Babette,
          I would appreciate if you could stick to fakeology and not jew or commenter bashing. It’s difficult to get good commenters at all at any site, let alone those of the contributing caliber of Carole and Blue Moon. Thanks for restraining yourself in the future.

    2. Blue Moon

      Along with a dosage adjustment to settle your rage, have your eyes checked, Babs- I’m not even in this thread- Ask your doctor if Fakeology is right for you-
      I posted elsewhere a screed by Miles Mathis because he confirmed my suspicions that Dave McGowan was a limited liability- For the record, I don’t know what chem trails are but the theory they aid telecommunications as espoused by the Clues Forum gang sounds more to the point than just dumping waste- Of course they are probably bad for us, whatever their purpose- Even if its just a scam to ratchet up the fear-

      1. lux

        “I don’t know what chem trails are but the theory they aid telecommunications as espoused by the Clues Forum gang sounds more to the point than just dumping waste”

        Having written nearly 2,000 cluesforum posts which I think qualifies me as a member of “the cluesforum gang” and also having written about chemtrails on that forum I just wanted to clarify that I have never held or expressed the opinion that the purpose of chemtrails was to aid telecommunications.

        I enjoy your posts, Blue Moon, and value your opinions but please watch the generalities. Just because some CF members have posted agreement about some things does not mean that all CF members agree about everything posted there.

        1. ab Post author

          Yes I tend to agree Lux. I am not convinced that they even exist as told, and if they do, are they anything more than a diversion or literal smoke screen? No agenda has a theory that fracking may be a way to dump toxic waste chemicals into the ground as cover for natural gas extraction.

          1. lux

            Well, I’m convinced that chemtrails exist and that they have a purpose, at least in my part of the world, but I don’t see that there is any great problem with today’s telecommunications in the first place so what problem would such an odd solution be solving?

            Chemtrail spraying is very predictable here in Southern California and is definitely related to the weather. I say this because I have observed over a period of some years that certain weather conditions nearly always result in heavy spraying but there is none or nearly none when those conditions are absent.

            Chemtrails cannot be simply contrails. Chemtrails are not present every day. Do planes only fly on some days and not others? Also, if chemtrails were merely contrails then they would be consistently heaviest in areas of heaviest air traffic which would be in the vicinity of major airports but this is not the case. Chemtrails are quite heavy in some areas that have no major nearby airports and can also be light or nonexistent in other areas that do.

            If chemtrails are merely contrails then they would propagate in a visibly radiating pattern around every major airport and this would be easy to see but I have never seen evidence of such. At least not with real, persistent trails that behave in classic chemtrail fashion.

            Also, as already mentioned, there are the “dotted line” chemtrails with evenly spaced and measured segments. How could these possibly be mere contrails?

            BTW, though chemtrails may well be toxic, I don’t think their principle purpose is to poison the population simply because it would be a really stupid and really expensive way to do such a thing. They already poison the water, the food, the drugs, the airwaves, etc. Why spend billions spraying poison at high altitudes using highly visible white clouds?

            I think they spray the stuff way up there because they want the stuff way up there because that is how weather control has always been done — at altitude.

            As a final argument, NASA has said that chemtrails are merely “persistent contrails” and no cause for concern. And, we know what NASA always does. 🙂

          2. LennyLeverhulme

            Good points lux.

            Our original conclusions (back in 2005-6, and which we later dismissed as too paranoid) were that the chemtrails near us, in NSW, Australia, were connected to the ‘long drought’ our part of the world experienced then.

            My mother thought the planes she saw everyday busily chemtrailing above the mountain ranges were attempting to PREVENT cloud build up. The drought (officially blamed on “El Ninio“) served to depress and depopulate rural areas once dependent on agriculture.

            Why? Well this is one of a piece with the Agenda 21 plan to eventually make Australia a huge empty continent — the mining quarry of the global village — only populated in a smattering of large urban centres on the seaboard (with a few internal townships to service the mining and eco-industries). See the ICLEI map of Australian ‘partner-cities’ and their extremely sparse membership list here: oceania.iclei.org/en/our-membe…. ICLEI is the “Local Governments for Sustainability Organisation” (the infiltrating arm of the UN) charged with implementing Agenda 21 by-laws and codes at the council/city level.

            In Australia, we are presently seeing a number of psyOps and social dis-engineering projects underway to these same ends: continued weird weather events, a big push to rid the centre of traditional Aboriginal populations, fracking on farmlands, the unabated ‘ice’ epidemic in regional centres single-handedly destroying youth, and the odd bush hoax.

            Can’t speak for Southern California, but over here it could be the case that chemtrails serve a multitude of Scientistic projects: geo-engineering, agricultural (linked to GMO crop experimentation perhaps), telecommunications, and moreover, furthering the Agenda 21 long-term “vision”.

          1. lux

            Posted by LennyLeverhulme:
            “Our original conclusions (back in 2005-6, and which we later dismissed as too paranoid) were that the chemtrails near us, in NSW, Australia, were connected to the ‘long drought’ our part of the world experienced then.

            “My mother thought the planes she saw everyday busily chemtrailing above the mountain ranges were attempting to PREVENT cloud build up. The drought (officially blamed on “El Ninio“) served to depress and depopulate rural areas once dependent on agriculture. “

            I don’t think that’s a paranoid idea at all, Lenny. In fact I think chemtrails have a lot to do with droughts. I also agree with your mother’s observation. I’ve seen the same thing here in California (which is now in a drought situation).

            Posted by Blue Moon:
            “My bad, Lux-”

            No big deal but thanks. 🙂

  3. LennyLeverhulme

    I don’t doubt they exist. I first saw chemtrails in our city about 12 years ago. They made a latticework in the skies above my mother’s flat all day long, year in, year out. And no-one knew wtf they were or why they were doing it. We made some discreet enquiries but were quickly sent on our way, leading us to sinister conclusions. They stopped about 4 years ago.

    I still have no idea what chemtrails are, although I doubt MM’s conclusions they’re a cheap method of rubbish disposal. Maybe, but like the alleged poisoning of our oceans by Fuckushima, I seriously doubt TPTB would foul their own nest.

    Simon’s New Year analysis seemed more plausible:
    www.cluesforum.info/viewtopic….

    1. Carole Thomas

      I agree.
      Simon’s theory about enhancing the ionosphere with chemtrails to fake satellite communications seems more plausible.
      That said, I don’t discount MM. I’ve been reading his essays (Beat Generation, Kennedy Kings, Lincoln Mock Assassination et al) and they are making too much sense.

      1. LennyLeverhulme

        Loved MM’s Lincoln essay too Carole. Thought it was one of his best, so far. Dave McGowan didn’t like it much though… (see May 13 posting and comments www.facebook.com/WeirdScenesIn…). He thinks MM has been sent to upset his apple cart.

        I did read Dave’s long series of Lincoln essays. So much detail, so few conclusions.

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