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straightfromthedevilsmouth
straightfromthedevilsmouth
5 years ago

It’s pretty obvious to me that Willard and Vespadouglas are agents. I’m on the fence with UNreal. They know Mathis is real, their assignment is to plants seeds of doubt around him. They also know that Brandon, Mark, Blue Moon, and I are real too. This is all a game to influence outside readers. And tells you how much they fear Mathis to build an intelligence budget around him. What’s more important than anything is that we don’t discuss what Mathis wrote about, which is that the entire Flat Earth movement is an intelligence creation to discredit by association. You’ll… Read more »

Unreal
5 years ago

@straightfromthedevilsmouth — Normally we encourage polite discussion on this site, even though we all have different views and draw different conclusions. Your defense of Miles Mathis however is not very well presented. You do not refer to any facts nor do you explain in any way the reason you support MM and/or his research. – Regarding “Flat Earth” and its so-called DBA strategy, you have actually proven how this invasive campaign works in two ways : • to give the general public a fetching “appeal to ridicule” argument to discredit any alternative research by a slight of hand (works just… Read more »

straightfromthedevilsmouth
straightfromthedevilsmouth
5 years ago
Reply to  Unreal

Disinfo doesn’t deserve a polite discussion. If they can’t handle it, then they can go join another department in Langley.

I’m also not going to waste my time convincing you Mathis exists. Feel free to believe whatever you want. You are a great case study of how the mind believes whatever it wants to believe.

Blue Moon
Blue Moon
5 years ago

This is a lift from daddie_o’s post on Clues Forum re: Miles Mathis: “As for his art, I think it’s a rather arbitrary assumption to assume that he spends 1/2 his time painting. From what I can tell, Miles is someone who follows his passion. In the 1980s and 1990s he was painting like mad. Then in the 2000s he got into science and wrote like crazy. His newest passion is the conspiracy stuff. And you can see that as he has written more on those topics, his science writing has tapered off considerably. It seems 2013 was a pivotal… Read more »

willard
willard
5 years ago
Reply to  Blue Moon

@Blue Moon, “…If you are reading Mark’s blog, Piece of Mindful (and you should) I’m Tyrone over there- Read more: fakeologist.com/blog/2016/09/0… Yes, Blue Moon. I have read both sites. Mark Torkarski is a poor man’s Dallas Goldbug. His side by side photo comparisons are so off, it reminds me of gaslighting. Remember, MM is the fellow that says Denise Brown is Nicole Brown and Sharon Tate is really her sister too. Umm, let’s see, what other glaring errors does MM have? Let me think-His John Lennon/Mark Strayer comparison essay is just plain stupid. I read his JFK essay where he… Read more »

Mark Tokarski
5 years ago
Reply to  willard

Willard, we have a lot of trolls passing through my blog who, like you, simply do the dismissive wave-off, a logical blunder and a debate tactic centered on weakness of ability to mount a counterargument.

We put up evidence, lots of it, and demand that you either debunk it by similar techniques or accept it as valid. Too many, like you, unable to deal with evidence, resort to the sneer and walk-off.

So either put up, or shut up. So far, you’ve done neither.

willard
willard
5 years ago
Reply to  Mark Tokarski

@mark, Look at yourself. Look at how you are behaving. Are you behaving like a reasonable, sensible person with your remarks at me? A troll? Mark, did you read where I questioned Brandon? “@ Brandon, sorry, I wasn’t trying to be rude….just delicate. …… However, I seem to remember, I could be wrong, a fellow from Dave McGowan’s Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon Facebook page who defended Miles Mathis as a real person Read more: fakeologist.com/blog/2016/08/2… I asked Brandon about Nathan Andrew and Brandon verified that Andrew fit the profile Unreal gave of a supporter in an intelligence op. Am… Read more »

tokarski
tokarski
5 years ago
Reply to  willard

Not much to answer there. I sense that if I get into it with you that you have then achieved your purpose. So I choose to talk by you and will not engage you again until you put something answerable up. If you cannot do that, then shut up. Anyone reading this, all you have to do is go to my website and review athe evidence for yourself. Please note that we do not seek controversy for its own sake; that we ask readers to replicate our findings on their own, and give them the methods we use. We do… Read more »

daddie_o
daddie_o
5 years ago
Reply to  willard

Idiotic, substance-free post capped off by a mistake that only underscores your ignorance: it’s not “homes.” It’s “holmes:” www.urbandictionary.com/define…

Unreal
5 years ago
Reply to  Blue Moon

— There are many posts by “daddie_o” on the CF thread, needless to say he’s a big supporter of MM. – It’s actually quite curious how well all of MM’s fans seem to know him despite him being portayed as a recluse savant loner that spend all his time between painting, mathematics and conspiracy theory. As much as MM must be exceptional to maintain all his activities and productivity, so must “daddie_o” to crank out 3-4 hyperrealist paintings a week (yes photorealistic paintings is referred to as the hyperrealist movement in art and they are extremely laborious to execute). As… Read more »

Blue Moon
Blue Moon
5 years ago
Reply to  Unreal

UNreal- I’m not daddie_o- I’m Blue Moon/Tyrone- Laborious is a subjective term- BTW, how can you be so intelligent and buy into that flat earth crap? I just can’t feature Langley employing someone with such a tenuous grasp of the English language- But then again, maybe that’s a new wrinkle in troll camouflage- (I hate posting contentious shit)

Unreal
5 years ago
Reply to  Blue Moon

@Blue Moon — In your post you made a citation from “daddie_o”, and in my response i addressed his defense of Miles Mathis. Maybe i misunderstood who was painting 3-4 photorealistic paintings a week? It can take a good month to produce a photorealistic painting by an accomplished artist involved in hyperrealism. If you painted 3-4 photorealistic quality works a week, this is unusually quick. – If MM can write, paint, research and do science in such an extent, my point is that this is extra-ordinary. We have to believe in exceptions in several fields regarding MM as he flourishes… Read more »

Marin
Marin
5 years ago
Reply to  Unreal

Agree totally with you.

stephen
stephen
5 years ago
Reply to  Blue Moon

4.bp.blogspot.com/_QPYh2tlcChA…

“I was cranking out 3-4 photo-realistic canvasses a week” !? Really? How big were they, postage stamps? Do you mean, a sheet of tracing paper and thick marker pens? Or projecting onto surface and daubing in, crudely painting-by-numbers essentially? Why bother?

Here’s a clip of Peter Blake painting his, “realistic”, portrait of Kendo Nagasaki. The ground outline is a, professionally taken large frame I think, transparency projection. I doubt he churns many of these out a year.

“Masters of the Canvas Painting”:

Blue Moon
Blue Moon
5 years ago
Reply to  stephen

Let me try this again- Being prolific at something refined is not impossible if you want/need to do it- I focused on still life and portraits, in the range of 9”x12” to 2’x3’- Painting with hand/eye coordination alone is considered by non-painters as “honest” painting- Using tricks to expand inventory and increase speed is considered by the same experience-challenged observers as “cheating”- If you work at something long enough, you will master the craft part of it- The aesthetics is personal and my tastes at the time jibed with many local collectors- This encouragement will also increase output- Greed will… Read more »

stephen
stephen
5 years ago
Reply to  Blue Moon

Being prolific at something refined is not impossible if you want/need to do it” I agree, and that’s what a machine often does, you switch it on and it churns them out, but that isn’t Art, craft maybe but not Art. “Using tricks to expand inventory and increase speed is considered by the same experience-challenged observers as “cheating”” It may well be considered “cheating” by people who have no experience or knowledge of Art, but anyone who has been anywhere near the production of even failed Art knows that “tricks” are valid tools like brushes, paint, recording tape or pens… Read more »

daddie_o
daddie_o
5 years ago
Reply to  stephen

Ugh, I hate how these people always seem to manage to drag me down into the sewer and waste my time with this BS. I’m going to hold my nose. Here we go: I have never met Miles, and all my conclusions about him are based on a very thorough reading (often multiple times) of his work, including his work in physics. And that is why I’m chiming in here – to respond to the lame copy-paste of that drivel from Amazon. When I first started to really grasp the depth and scope of Miles’s physics, I was really floored.… Read more »

Vespadouglas
Vespadouglas
5 years ago
Reply to  daddie_o

Come on Miles

” What say you?”

stephen
stephen
5 years ago
Reply to  daddie_o

Daddy Oh-Dear if you “hate how these people always seem to manage to drag me down into the sewer and waste my time with this BS”, why have you chosen to write 851 words in rebuttal? It seems the behaviour of someone silly enough to call themselves daddie_o.

Is this the encouraging “Dr. Tahir Yaqoob, PhD”?
heasarc.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/bio…

If so, has Doc Encouragement introduced Magnificant Mathis to any of those lads that wandered around the moon?

Miles also plays on this “One for Daddy-O”:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2xx3Y…

Remember children “He makes it simple without being simplistic.”!

daddie_o
daddie_o
5 years ago
Reply to  stephen

I guess the only explanation is that I care about the truth and abhor deception, lies and false rumors. Unlike you. Yes, that is the same Dr. Yaqoob. He’s an astrophycist at Johns Hopkins who analyzes data from x-ray telescopes and is affiliated with NASA. I agree that he should be viewed with some skepticism for that reason alone. But on the other hand NASA is an enormous organization, with the vast majority of people working there undoubtedly unaware of the moon landing shenanigans. You have heard of compartmentalization, haven’t you? Actually, no need to answer as I’m done quite… Read more »

stephen
stephen
5 years ago
Reply to  daddie_o

Oh dear, there you go again, “Actually, no need to answer as I’m done quite with this exchange.” So Dad why the reply to me? Again? Why ask me a question then immediately tell me not to answer it? If it’s a waste of your time just ignore me. But no you keep coming back, giving me another opportunity to have another pop at you! Carl G Jung Theory: Psychological Projection: www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjqhVC… “I guess the only explanation is that I care about the truth and abhor deception, lies and false rumors. Unlike you.” What can I say? Takes one to… Read more »

Blue Moon
Blue Moon
5 years ago
Reply to  stephen

You say tomato, I say the process is the art- The people that believe art is some higher state of being made manifest are the ones who empty their wallets to buy that manifestation- If that’s what they need, I’m not going to burst their bubble- But it is work- Fun work, but intense labor that comes from conscious resolve as well as inspiration- And let’s be honest, modern art is basically shit, so anyone doing realistic art has to love it for its own sake because it won’t sell nearly as well as sponsored work by intel funded arts… Read more »

stephen
stephen
5 years ago
Reply to  Blue Moon

“The King Of Comedy – Trailer – HQ – (1983)”: www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUhDp0… Blue Moon you say you’re a writer now? Why is your orthography so terrible? “Say tomato” all you like but judging by what else you’ve said in this thread I think your painting was as poor as your punctuation. Though perhaps like you say, who am I to”burst their bubble”, Buddy Love Makes His Debut!: www.youtube.com/watch?v=Etshli… “… process is the art” is just the sort of thing people who aren’t much good at producing works of Art say to excuse their crappy productions. “… modern art is basically shit”.… Read more »

Blue Moon
Blue Moon
5 years ago
Reply to  stephen

“Stephen”- What exactly are you arguing for? I had two eggs over easy for breakfast this morning- Care to comment? The fact that I didn’t have them poached means, what, I can’t read? Or clip my toe nails? I don’t see the logic in your blathering so I’m going to let you nit pick other postings- I have a life in progress and must tend to it-

stephen
stephen
5 years ago
Reply to  Blue Moon

dyk.homestead.com/files/real42…

“I have a life in progress and must tend to it-“. That old chestnut again, I luvit! Well Bluey, don’t waste your precious time with me-n-me-nit-pickings, surely you’ve got some books to write or old-time-realistic paintings to gift humanity with? Or some faces to split by The Mighty Infallible Method!

“What exactly are you arguing for?” Because I enjoy it? I like irritating you, picking apart your overblown assertions.

“Andy Hodgson remembers Nitty Nora on Bid TV”:

stephen
stephen
5 years ago
Reply to  stephen

“Mathis apparently knows none of his theories are valid. That’s why he won’t test them” “Chattanooga Choo Choo – The Andrews Sisters”: www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwcNg0… “I guess some people believe Mathis when he says he’s a physicist, so they probably also believe he knows what contemporary physicists do. But in my experience, someone who calls himself a physicist or architect or engineer, who never studied the subject in college, generally isn’t one.” Someone posted a very recent Math-Is-Proof vid in the Chattango-Choo-Choo, “For circular motion does PI equal 4?”: www.youtube.com/watch?v=5c79mh… ” [3 years ago] You may be interested to know that Miles… Read more »

stephen
stephen
5 years ago
Reply to  stephen

I doubt there is still anyone here buying into the Math-Is-Myth, but if so this should pull you up short, what a prat: mileswmathis.com/me.html I laughed, out loud. Not just because he looks a total twat, I doubt it’s him-it, but the painting is so very-very-very awful, if you can’t see that then just accept the word of those who know more than you, it is truly amateur… not the work of, ho-ho-ho, genius! Even the framing is the work of a joke shop, far-far too narrow. They are having us on. A thought… he-it’s done Art, Physics, Conspiracy, where… Read more »

tokarski
tokarski
5 years ago

Mathis mentioned during the conference that he had been approached by Jim Fetzer to do an interview, and turned him down. Smart move, as Fetzer is not trustworthy, in my view, most likely a Spook. But Mathis knew little of Fetzer (who will someday die in the middle of a long, long sentence). He generally shuns interviews because people can pick and choose and reshape them to fit their own agendas. What you need to know about him is contained in his written words. I listened for substantial criticism of Mathis in your show. There was precious little of merit.… Read more »

Vespadouglas
Vespadouglas
5 years ago
Reply to  tokarski

It’s a bit odd that you call him “Mathis ”

“What you need to know about him is contained in his written words”. That sounds like a Sunday sermon.
Are you a Christian tokarski?

Marin
Marin
5 years ago

Unreal is still one of my favorites for a good chat.

Unreal
5 years ago
Reply to  Marin

@Marin and — glad to read your appreciation, makes me contributing here all the more meaningful.