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If this is the best the MSM has to counter 0;conspiracy theory” blogs like this, then we don’t have too much to worry about. I just wish they’d link to the site.

Among keyboard mourning and 280-character fury, a small but determined minority spring up in the wake of mass shootings to insist that events were staged – concocting monstrously complex tales involving 0;crisis actors”, the “deep state” and accusations that attacks are “false flag” murders being used, for example, as a pretext to institute reforms.

Source: The people who think mass shootings are staged – BBC News

Professional student Hogg (videos exposing him are already scrubbed from Youtube) professionally dodges the question and changes the talking point.


I’ve also noticed that the media wants to frame believers/non-believers in the classic left/right dialectic. This immediately helps eliminate half of the audience, as people who choose sides will ignore anything labeled the opposite. More classic d?vide et imper?. Trying to fit those that don’t believe the media into this frame is like putting a round peg in a square hole – it doesn’t work.

Where the ‘Crisis Actor’ Conspiracy Theory Comes From – Motherboard (h/t Silverbird via bit.ly/fakechat)

Before Newtown and Tracy’s blog posts, conspiracy theorists had often said that events like the attacks were inside government jobs or false flag operations, but I can find little evidence of anyone suggesting that national tragedies were outright faked.

Amusing passage. Obviously this controlled outlet didn’t do a quick search to find fakeologist or cluesforum.info.

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2 thoughts on “Damage control not strong/working

  1. xileffilex

    Mmmm, damage control in top gear.
    I mentioned this researcher/academic gatekeeper in the Seattle area –


    At 31.08, I wish I could read all those “conspiracy” sites in her web of contacts, I was surprised how large the nodisinfo.com node was. I wonder if cluesforum or fakeologist appeared? I doubt it.
    Another legible one was Aanirfan which unlike nodisinfo,com, goes down the real deaths/false flag road all the time.

    Thanks for the Vice link, Ab – which, incidentally, is discussed in the nodisinfo comments [among the usual to-ing and fro-ing from the usual residents]
    because the memoryhole links have some interesting replies in the comments sections.
    Fascinating comments by Christo on the Port Arthur ‘massacre’
    as found in a link on the Motherboard page.
    In fact, Port Arthur receives very little attention anywhere.
    See here, ep42 with Rollo at 1.13.50 **

    In the following widely trumpeted ‘official’ drill in the UK ,[hmmm why so public?] the crisis actors were referred to as volunteer victims.
    But since the disaster was admitted to be a staged drill, where nobody got hurt, nobody died, there was no need for the paid liar crisis actor. The emergency services did their usual work, as they do in every HRDPAR i.e act and keep quiet.

    **Off-topic, immediately following his description of Port Arthur,was Rollo suggesting in 2013 that people died on 9/11?]

    1. gaia

      Thanks for the link, I’ve included it in the list of psyops.

      There was another “Port Arthur massacre”, allegedly, in China, 102 years before

      Ridiculous story elements:

      – massacre lasting for 2 or 3 days
      How can they not know that for sure??
      – number of victims ranges from some 120 to a whopping 60,000
      How can they not know how many people more or less died?
      – allegedly 36 people were “spared”

      After a series of battles on the Liaodong Peninsula the First Division of the Second Army, led by General Yamaji, drew up around Port Arthur in late November. On 18 November 1894, the Japanese movement down the peninsula was “temporarily frustrated” and returned to find that their abandoned wounded troops had been severely mutilated, with hands and feet cut off. Others had been burned alive. The city was evacuated with residents fleeing westward by land or sea into China. The Chinese placed bounties on prisoners of war, or their heads or other body parts; during the Sino-Japanese War the bounty was 50 taels. The Chinese had mutilated several Japanese bodies and displayed them at the entrance of the city, infuriating the Japanese.

      By the time of the assault on Port Arthur, a number of Western reporters were attached to the Japanese Second Army. Western reporting on the massacre was controversial. Most correspondents such as the American James Creelman, writing for the New York World, and Frederic Villiers, a writer and illustrator for the London Black and White, described a wide scale and cold-blooded massacre, while Amédée Baillot de Guerville alleged in the pages of the New York Herald that no such massacre had occurred. Writing a decade later, de Guerville amended this view, claiming that though some 120 civilians were killed it still had not been a massacre.

      Baillot de Guerville:

      The offices of the journal were gutted by fire in 1899 and shortly thereafter, but not necessarily as a result of the fire, de Guerville left the United States for his native France never to return. In his version of events, the onset of a heretofore latent tuberculosis was the cause of his departure. By his own account, de Guerville experienced a near miraculous recovery from his tuberculosis while a patient at the pioneering Nordach Clinic for consumptives in Germany’s Black Forest region.

      James Creelman was involved in more war psyops and his “career” was boosted for his “sensational” stories:

      Creelman landed at Joseph Pulitzer’s New York World in 1894, where he accompanied the Japanese Army to cover the Sino-Japanese War. Creelman’s sensational reportage of the Japanese seizure of Port Arthur and the accompanying massacre of its Chinese defenders by the victorious Japanese army garnered tremendous attention and put him in greater demand as a reporter.

      A significant assignment for Creelman came in 1896, on a trip to Cuba to report on tensions brewing between the island nation and Spain. By 1897, William Randolph Hearst had recruited Creelman to his newspaper, the New York Journal, and assigned Creelman to cover the war between Cuba and Spain, which broke out in 1898.

      William fecking Hearst, Citizen Kane, the Rupert Murdoch of his time who admittedly faked news:

      Wealth wasn’t enough for ol’ William. He sought power. He controlled the editorial positions and coverage of political news in all of his papers, thereby exercising enormous political influence. Problem was, Hearst routinely invented sensational stories, faked interviews, ran phony pictures, and distorted real events. Consider this anecdote:

      “We had a crime story that was going to be featured in a 96-point headline on page one,” remembers Vern Whaley, an editor for Hearst’s Herald-Examiner. “When I found the address that was in the story, that address was a vacant lot. So I hollered over at the rewrite desk, I said, ‘You got the wrong address in this story. This is a vacant lot.’ The copy chief that night was a guy named Vic Barnes. And he says, ‘Sit down, Vern.’ He says, ‘The whole story’s a fake.‘”

      Hearst basically invented yellow journalism, and he used it to get what he wanted. In 1898, he called for war against Spain. Public support grew. And, uh, then we went to war against Spain. After World War I, he called for an isolationist foreign policy. Public support grew. And, uh, we became an isolationist nation, despite the atrocities developing abroad. He used his influence to win elections, twice winning a seat to the House of Representatives as a Democrat.

      There was no one to check Hearst. No internet, no 24 hours news cycle, no Daily Show, no John Oliver. Hearst owned the largest papers, controlled what they said, and so he avoided criticism in the press. He was untouchable. William Randolph Hearst could get away with anything


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