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UNreal
UNreal(@unreal)
3 years ago

@Terran Downvale – The most important point on Lesta/Tesla is that he’s part of the contrived truth-movement with the habitual load of ‘hamsterwheeling’ and polemics. – Agree that Lesta is JLB in itself seem improbable as both entities would more probably be scripted effort in some form of think-tank where the individual roles are impossible to define. The fact remain that when half-notorious entities enflame each-other over time we are looking at a pattern – not a reaction. – When it comes to actor doubles, it would be logical that such a thing is in use – these individuals are… Read more »

John le Bon
John le Bon(@john-le-bon)
3 years ago
Reply to  UNreal

‘Think-tanks that give us JLB’

In your mind, is it possible that I am a one-man operation?

Is it possible that I am conducting research, producing content, and running a website, all by myself?

Or would that amount of work necessarily require a team effort (or some kind of superhuman), in your eyes?

Terran Downvale
Terran Downvale(@terran-downvale)
3 years ago
Reply to  UNreal

Ugh. I really don’t have the energy to go on too much about this but I just need to make a few things clear. First of all, I don’t know about any of those other entities, only Lesta Nediam who I corresponded with A LOT for a number of years. If Lesta had a “think tank” then I was part of it, LOL. We discussed many ideas at length on a daily basis and I saw first-hand how he developed his ideas over the years. From what I know of him, Lesta is vastly different from any other “truther” out… Read more »

John le Bon
John le Bon(@john-le-bon)
3 years ago

And as for his problem with JLB, I think he made it pretty clear what the issue was. I see his video is now gone, but I believe he still has a G+ post explaining the problem at the top of his feed. 1) Does it not bother you that Lesta makes these attack videos against people like myself, and then removes the videos within a day or two? 2) Speaking of Lesta removing videos, does it not strike you as odd that Lesta has removed the vast, vast bulk of his/her comment from both the YouTube and G+ pages?… Read more »

Terran Downvale
Terran Downvale(@terran-downvale)
3 years ago
Reply to  John le Bon

@JLB 1) Well, he’s been removing most all of his videos lately as you mentioned. In the past, he’s kept videos directed at specific people up for a while. I dunno exactly why he removes videos, but it may have to do with the comments he’s getting. You could ask him why he removed that particular video, but I imagine that would open things up to why he made it in the first place! 2) Again, I don’t know why he made all those videos unlisted. Another thing you can ask him about! I do miss his videos but I… Read more »

John le Bon
John le Bon(@john-le-bon)
3 years ago

His problem with you seems to be about how he thinks you’re stifling conversation, partly by requiring him to sign up for your site in order to continue your discussions, which is clearly something he does not want to do. I have offered Lesta an Honorary Membership to my site. Full access for free. This is not an offer I make to many people. As I explained to Lesta, there are several members on my site who would love to interact with Lesta further, and to see myself and Lesta collaborate in a collegiate fashion — even if via civil… Read more »

Vespadouglas
Vespadouglas(@vespadouglas)
3 years ago

i got to the part in the video when the narrator started quoting scripture and talking about spirits…..do people really buy that

Xileffilex
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Xileffilex(@xileffilex)
3 years ago

Has John [le Bon] ever spoken with Lesta? Why does Lesta seem incapable of the spoken word? My working hypothesis is that they are one and the same, arguing with each other.

Prove me wrong. I have no dog in the race.

Xileffilex
Member
Xileffilex(@xileffilex)
3 years ago
Reply to  Fakeologist

“This is a plea for Lesta Nediam to join Fakeologist.com. We would like to hear your voice at Fakeologist.com. We value your cracking reality like a nut here at Fakeologist.com. You can talk about the lie system to other Fakeologists at Fakeologist.com , like John le Bon. Whether you are interested in baby hoaxes or grand daddy dino hoaxes, you are welcome to crack them at Fakeologist.com. Thank you”

Xileffilex
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Xileffilex(@xileffilex)
3 years ago
Reply to  Fakeologist

lol!

Gaia
Gaia(@gaia)
3 years ago
Reply to  Fakeologist

True, there is no video (still) on xfiles… It was either him or Faye (also no video yet)…

Great channel man. It’s good fun.

UNreal
UNreal(@unreal)
3 years ago
Reply to  Xileffilex

 xileffilex – As you point out in the exemple of JLB/Lesta Nediam – there is a lot of what can be called “hamsterwheeling” in the alternative truther scene. Just as in mainstream news, the many contrived entities in ‘alt-news’ are incessantly looking for more buzz and create multiple in-fights and stereotype false “fans” and polemic commenters in order to stir up attention with not much really being proposed in terms of valid research. – Regarding Lesta Nediam and JLB there is an uncanny similitude in graphics and presentation that tend to support your humble suspicion. Also – both entities feed… Read more »

Xileffilex
Member
Xileffilex(@xileffilex)
3 years ago
Reply to  UNreal

Hamsterwheeling – Exhibit A [from autocue reading gatekeeping operation]
see comments section

www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWPcld…

Exhibit B
ditto

John le Bon
John le Bon(@john-le-bon)
3 years ago
Reply to  UNreal

Regarding Lesta Nediam and JLB there is an uncanny similitude in graphics and presentation… Indeed. This has already been explained, multiple times. I admire(d) Lesta’s style and adopted some of his/her video-making techniques, particularly with regards to the use of contrasting colours on black backgrounds for added emphasis of key points. It was also Lesta’s comments on YouTube which led me to learn how to use the embolden and italicise functions on that platform. Once upon a time it was the case that I was quite happy for people to believe that I am/was Lesta. I used to greatly respect… Read more »

Terran Downvale
Terran Downvale(@terran-downvale)
3 years ago
Reply to  Xileffilex

I can assure you all that Lesta and JLB are most definitely NOT the same person. How do I know this? To begin with, that ridiculous accusation first started at a time when Lesta was putting out a MASSIVE amount of work in both videos and G+ posts. JLB was also quite busy at the time with his lengthy YouTube hangouts and other work. There is simply no possible way a single person was doing all of this! The fact that Lesta had the energy to do everything he did was an amazing feat in itself, let alone having the… Read more »

Xileffilex
Member
Xileffilex(@xileffilex)
3 years ago

The acid test would be to send them both up to the ISS to give Gino a break from space experiments. They don’t need to speak. Nationalparksign could lend them a guitar prop, I’m sure.

Davejchannel11
3 years ago

Tony A is Tony B. Just so that all are still clear on that.

John le Bon
John le Bon(@john-le-bon)
3 years ago
Reply to  Xileffilex

My working hypothesis is that they are one and the same, arguing with each other.

And if you are ever proven wrong, will you own up to it, admit that you are not as smart as you thought you were, and apologise for your false accusations against an innocent person(s)?

In other words, do you still understand the concept of honour?

Xileffilex
Member
Xileffilex(@xileffilex)
3 years ago
Reply to  John le Bon

Oh no, my “tampered” hypothesis knocked fort six out of the MCG. Back to the drawing board, then. When are you going to interview John Adams again, seeing that Lesta is incommunicado? He’d love to talk big bikes, rather than the usual logical fallacy stuff.