11 thoughts on “FAC466-TomD, DaveJ, NapoleonW

  1. UNrealUNreal

    Intellectual resistance to nonsense is not a pleasant endeavour nor commonplace – even on this channel.

    Numbers on their own does not satisfy my own quest for knowing and even though it is possible to present Dave J as merely a “numbers guy” it does not alone represent a fair characterisation of his contributions as a researcher.

    The fence-sitter position is more often than not used as a fallacy on its own in alternative research were self-confessed meritable researchers use red-herrings such as “track records” to justify non-commitment to any meaningful investigation of the matter at hand.

    As an example, in the case of Annette Carrion motorcycle accident it was the very same attitude of fence-sitting and reliance on past achievements that constituted the main opposition against intelligible research and fact-checking.

    Such negating attitudes are travesties and purely deceptive when sustained by longstanding members of this site, so kudos to Dave J for having the mindset firm enough to put up with their nonsense and back-stabbing attitudes.

    Regarding politeness it is also far from accurate to assert (Napoleon Wilson) that Tom Dalpra has any merits in this department. And when you defend politeness as a valuable criteria* it sure does not help doing so being impolite yourself.

    *politeness is not a valid criteria in itself regarding truth, although it is a commendable attitude. However, to stay polite when your counterparts hijack conversation with deception, disrespect and lies is of course not easy or even purposeful.

    1. Tom DalpraTom Dalpra

      Ha! Well, what an irrelevant post that was UNreal !
      Let’s go through step-by-step.

      ”Intellectual resistance to nonsense is not a pleasant endeavour nor commonplace – even on this channel.
      Really ? It’s seems clear there is quite a lot of nonsense (due to the nature of the field we’re in ) posted on
      this ‘channel’ and resistance to it would seem a perfectly normal reaction.


      ”though it is possible to present Dave J as merely a “numbers guy” it does not alone represent a fair characterisation of his contributions as a researcher.”
      I certainly didn’t set-out to present DaveJ as purely a numbers guy in this audio and never said he was. I’m well aware that DaveJ’s disinformation takes several forms and no he’s not just a numbers guy, and I never said or implied he was.


      ”The fence-sitter position is more often than not used as a fallacy on its own in alternative research were self-confessed meritable researchers use red-herrings such as “track records” to justify non-commitment to any meaningful investigation of the matter at hand.”

      Ha ha! The ‘fence-sitter position’. The only reason I said ‘I was on the fence’ regarding the alleged fake car crash, was that I had only just heard about it and had not looked at one single detail of it at the time of the audio ! What other position, at that point, could any sane person have?
      The only reason I mentioned my ‘track record’ was because Dave seemed to be accusing me of being someone who likes to claim people are dead. As I said, my track record speaks for itself. I’ve done original research on some major British Ops where I was the first person on the internet to suggest that people didn’t die. DaveJ got me wrong there, evidently.


      ”As an example, in the case of Annette Carrion motorcycle accident it was the very same attitude of fence-sitting and reliance on past achievements that constituted the main opposition against intelligible research and fact-checking”.

      This has got absolutely nothing to do with me and is irrelevant vis-a-vis the conversation I had with DaveJ about an incident I knew nothing about at the time.


      ”Such negating attitudes are travesties and purely deceptive when sustained by longstanding members of this site, so kudos to Dave J for having the mindset firm enough to put up with their nonsense and back-stabbing attitudes.”

      ”Back-stabbing –
      noun
      the action of criticizing someone in a treacherous manner despite pretending friendship with them.”

      Get with it UNreal. I’ve never pretended DaveJ was a friend of mine. Whatever I ever say to DaveJ, it can never be called ‘back stabbing’.

      All-in-all, this comment form you, UNreal, (with 7 meaningless ‘ thumbs-up’ ) is irrelevant, in context.

      1. UNrealUNreal

        Maybe it needs to be pointed out from the get-go here that the above post from Tom Dalpra begins with an appeal to ridicule* followed by an insult to my integrity and relevance of my post.

        Facing such denigrating attitude, i won’t bother commenting on the cherrypicked supposed ‘arguments’ that follows from Tom Dalpra – who is apparently very eager to teach us without a track record some correct english.

        Nevertheless, the response above kind of prove the points i tried to make generally for members (not just Tom Dalpra) who attempt to belittle and pigenhole other contributors and commenters.

        *from the introductory sentence “Ha! Well, what an irrelevant post that was UNreal !”

      2. Vespadouglas

        my goodness….an egi disinfo character shilling for a crass christian BIGOT who in turn is being attacked by a chap whos shilling for the LIARS adams and dyer ….welcome to WWFakeo’

        1. UNrealUNreal

          It is easy to make vulgar accusations and you (Vespadouglas) sure have made many hasty judgements using derogatory language in a short period of time*.

          What hides behind the rude formulation and offensive language is a complete lack of arguments and coherent discourse. But it seems Vespadouglas role on this site is not to further any research – just to stir emotion and make Fakeology discussion appear distasteful.

          What i find distasteful is how any Fakeologist, here Vespadouglas, allows themselves to show no proof and still jump to conclusions – and share their non-findings in a self-celebrating manner with inflammatory language (and intentions).

          *i’ve not looked at exactly when Vespadouglas became so active lately, but it is a rather recent revival of a character that seems to make no actual contributions as a researcher and focus uniquely on mudslinging

            1. Vespadouglas

              is it alright to still doubt the integrity and genuineness of people whom you are still suspicious of ab…..maybe if i stick to airing my thoughts on people like dustban , marcus and talkoutyourarski and keep schtum about all your new “friends” i wont offend your new non critique policy……………………as for the unreal character , GTF……YOU are either an absolute loon or you are employed to pretend to be an absolute loon.

          1. Vespadouglas

            no research is better than fantasy/fraudulent ramblings you provide at times……paintings and xrays prove egi e.g…….utter fucking nonsense……..unreal for sure

        2. gaiagaia

          Yes, Vespadouglas, you immature, vulgar commenter, don’t criticize DaveJ, the best, completely mature, not vulgar at all, con-tributor to Fakeologist.com…, the only website that actually looks into what the media are presenting to us as true. Nobody else does. Please policorrect yourself, you’re a nuisance, immature, vulgar and of course a spitual murderer and sumbag [sics included].

          I trust you comply with this. Enjoy the waffle.

  2. xileffilex

    Well, I started this football hoax crash off. The school run already over at 7.51 AM? Suuuuure. A nice quiet place, easily sealed off, get it over with BEFORE the school run starts…
    Head on crash – suuuure
    i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/05/15/19/4C490D6900000578-5731511-Images_of_the_immediate_aftermath_have_emerged_after_the_footbal-a-26_1526407320638.jpg…
    source

    i2-prod.coventrytelegraph.net…

    www.cheshirefire.gov…
    “died at scene” “road closures”
    A pathetic #HRDPAR #NDNGH

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