FAK384-Eva from Florida

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Fantastic call from senior truther Eva – who was a truther when Kennedy was 0;shot”.

Markus and Fred join in near the end.

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5 thoughts on “FAK384-Eva from Florida

  1. anounceofsaltperday

    In my opinion, this is one of the most astounding exchanges I have heard … perhaps a seminal moment in shaping my thinking patterns… my models.

    As YouCanCallMeAl has already noted, Eva’s willingness to engage on the subject of the treatment of Jews in WW2 was refreshing and without rancour. I completely agree with him that dismissing her testimony is unreasonable, especially in the context of this call.

    For me, the character that I call Markus Allen really came to life in this call. My doubts about his existence were hugely diminished and I concluded that there is a “Prodigal Son” story about to unfold here. His thought that everything being perfect before the eating of the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge contradicts the corruption of all flesh after the eating of the fruit and introduction of Angelic seed into the bloodlines of men is puzzling. That is the WHOLE POINT of the story… perfect before disobedience, horrible afterwards. ummm der..

    Establishing contact with Fred and Eva with their strong connection with Israel and its happenings is a total bonus.

    In summary, a sensational recording. A thousand thanks to you Ab, Markus, Eva and Fred for a tremendously uplifting moment for me.

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  2. YouCanCallMeAl

    An excellent call. I really loved hearing Eva (and Fred). Eva was open and honest, despite Ab and Marcus throwing some quite difficult questions her way. Refreshing to hear people not being triggered but prepared to give best answers instead! This is the best type of grown up, IMO 🙂

    For myself, I have an opposite opinion on the holocaust (that it was largely faked) and see Christianity as an integral part of the control structure from the beginning. But whatever I may think about the holocaust or about Christianity, I have to take my information second hand, mainly from screens. If however you have personal experience, it is absolutely right that the experience takes priority over the presentations we see on a screen, even hoax-aware conspiracy presentations. So how can they deny the holocaust when they have had family involvement, or that God is in their life if they have personal experience of that? They could be lying of course, perhaps unintentionally. On the other hand if you did believe that on the basis of no experience, you would be a hypocrite. I try not to be a hypocrite, hence no god for me!

    PS, Marcus, it is interesting to point out the contradictions in the bible, but there are other questions that are also difficult. Eg the fact that many details of the Jesus story (virgin birth, dates,etc) exist in the historical record before Christ was said to have been born. Or that the Bible has (miraculously) avoided being subverted over the last 2000 years (I think not). Or that we are born in sin – we are born bad and need saving (emotional manipulation). Or even, if God is perfect and timeless, what he can’t be is imperfect and in space and time…. ie these are domains that do not interact. Etc.

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      1. YouCanCallMeAl

        Of course its very hard to argue either way about the historical record – anything you do not personally experience is second hand, or hearsay. It may seem to be well supported, but that does not make it true. (I daresay there are reams of documents in support of covid’s existence as a virus, but I am still skeptical.) But most Christians need to assume that historical is true (more or less), that the bible itself is not something dug up in the 18th or 19th century.

        Here is an example of what I mean though – a summary of historical figures that have a similar story (eg born of a virgin, crucified, same ‘birth date’ being celebrated, etc):
        in5d.com/10-christ-like-figure…

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