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napoleon wilson
3 months ago

i understand the concerns that the injection for an imaginary virus is causing damage and the fear to get you to take it is real ,so dont get me wrong ,but you know ,what if theres no carbon in the bat injection does that make it better any better ,

YouCanCallMeAl
YouCanCallMeAl
3 months ago

We have no idea what’s in there – but we know enough not to take it. It could be the standard adjuvants, saline, graphene oxide, bat guana, my mother-in-law’s knickers. I have no idea what’s in it. In question here is that there is a claim of something specific in there as Graphene Lemming however is stating that he does know. But when we try to find out why he knows, its cos its in scientific papers. This is not knowledge… but perhaps the papers are valid? The question then is should one believe scientific papers – can these themselves… Read more »

napoleon wilson
3 months ago
Reply to  YouCanCallMeAl

we should base our judgements knowing what we already know ,we know they lie! and we know they tell stories which are so far fetched ,these stories cant possibly be true (judy wood) but get spun off by the gullible for the sole purpose deflecting from the truth, dont inject anything ever

napoleon wilson
3 months ago

YouCanCallMeAl
YouCanCallMeAl
3 months ago

GLem believes the papers. Because he believes the papers, and was trained as a material scientist, we should believe him.

Well, sorry, that’s not how it should work. The scientific method needs to be applied personally. Its great that GLem is a material scientist – but was it that proved G.O. to him? If he could share that perhaps we could repeat his verification steps to confirm for ourselves. The thing is that there are no verification steps. He has just read some papers – that’s all that’s been verified by him!

Anyway, it was a cool story.

Last edited 3 months ago by YouCanCallMeAl
xileffilex
xileffilex
3 months ago

I agree with Graphene Lemming – all science ought to be reproducible to you and me, given the same equipment and budget. For example we ought to be able to land a rocket on the moon and bring it back to earth, lol! It’s simple physics and chemistry….. Graphene Oxide is a strange case. It seems to be a jumble of large cyclic molecules which are lattices surrounded by Hydroxyl [phenolic] or Carboxyl groups with the odd “epoxide”bridge thrown in randomly around the middle to justify the name “oxide”. www.ossila.com/products/graphe… From wiki: The structure and properties of graphite oxide depend… Read more »

graphenelemming
graphenelemming
3 months ago
Reply to  xileffilex

In my perfect world I would have access to GO jabberations, GO particles and a lab to test the materials. Alas militaries have been used to distribute the jabberations to keep independent investigations of the contents from discovering the secret sauce. The suppression of the contents of the jab, the videos of damaged people shaking, convulsing, etc from the jab, and doctors who have profound problems with the jab have been eliminated from western media until recently. I no longer have access to scientific tools and the university that is local is 100% bought by big pharma so no help… Read more »

YouCanCallMeAl
YouCanCallMeAl
3 months ago

“A person saying that because the International Space Station is fake then GO is fake is not proof of anything except of a belief system.” That’s not what xileffilex is saying. That’s a total strawman. You are saying GO is a thing. It could be! It could also be that it is the adjuvants in the vaccines – these are in all vaccines. It could be something else. Who knows? What you are expressing is a hypothesis – it is not knowledge. Reading scientific papers is only proof that there are scientific papers on this. There are lots of other… Read more »

napoleon wilson
3 months ago

go on i,ll bight ,
just to let you know under jabbas palace lives the rancor(corona)beast which luke chokes with a bone and kills with spikes ,
nice to see golem is up for studying judy wood and dustification i,d like to ask how the dustification process compensates for its fictionality
,also is golem aware that anything bad that happens to america on t.v. oops television is either done by Oz or one of the carachters from there !! judy wood

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napoleon wilson
3 months ago

the mono audio was good , people should take advantage of abirato,s freedom of speech stance ,goodshow all round

xileffilex
xileffilex
3 months ago

weeeeeellll, as I quoted, the properties of GO depend on the method of synthesis. So how can the properties be replicated?
You could substitute “viruses” for GO throughout your paragraphs. I’m not sure how a wonder chemical can be so variable. And I don’t think it exists in any jabs, that’s another side show to boost its media popularity.

graphenelemming
graphenelemming
3 months ago
Reply to  xileffilex

Ok, You don’t understand that knowledge has levels of abstraction. Engineering has the least level of abstraction in the abstraction ladder in the sense that it is used to produce results in the real world by a reproducible experiment. The thingness of Graphene oxide as a molecule can be described with little hypothesizing. A virus is a much higher level of abstraction in the sense that it violates all of the “rules” for living animals and because it is so small it is difficult to isolate and study. Every experiment using GO proves it exits. Scientists use the previous knowledge… Read more »

YouCanCallMeAl
YouCanCallMeAl
3 months ago

But how many abstractions are you making in what you say? “The thingness of Graphene oxide as a molecule” There are molecules. We can confirm graphene oxide. “You don’t need to recreate the wheel every time you investigate something but a higher level abstraction” What verification of these series of steps did you do? Any? Do you recognise that there is an issue that people who work in their silos assume that they understand what else is going on, but do not know it? In my personal working experience, the public story and the inside of the sausage factory never… Read more »

Last edited 3 months ago by YouCanCallMeAl
graphenelemming
graphenelemming
3 months ago
Reply to  YouCanCallMeAl

Please offer solid evidential proof that it doesn’t exist as I say and has the properties that I have been exposing. Where are your references bout Graphene oxide? I have not seen one. I can offer thousands of proofs by way of scientific experiments that show it exists and should be a concern for humanity. You only offer a belief system based on media hoaxes-YOUR NARRATIVE btw and plaster it over every science experiment ever created about Graphene oxide.

YouCanCallMeAl
YouCanCallMeAl
3 months ago

“Please offer solid evidential proof that it doesn’t exist as I say and has the properties that I have been exposing.” No. That’s not how it works. You are claiming something. It is for you to provide proof that it does. And you can’t offer thousands of proofs. You can offer thousands of papers that purport to prove something. That you haven’t verified. Basically you are just making up stories but want someone else to do the work. Do the work, prove your case. Or its just another cool story. Btw, everyone has a narrative – at least mine is… Read more »

xileffilex
xileffilex
3 months ago
Reply to  YouCanCallMeAl

“GO” isn’t a unique molecule which could be subjected to x-ray crystallography, it isn’t a polymer with regular repeating structure either, It’s a soup.

Last edited 3 months ago by xileffilex