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    xileffilex
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    Some press reports of the Eddie Cochrane crash hoax:
    Bristol Chronicles 1960 - 1965

    ‘Two American recording stars, Eddie Cochran and Gene Vincent, who headed the bill in a rock’n’roll show at Bristol Hippodrome last week, and were due to fly home to America, were involved in a crash yesterday. ‘Mr Cochran died, without regaining consciousness, at St Martin’s Hospital, Bath yesterday afternoon. Mr Vincent, with a fractured collarbone, is still detained there. ‘Within an hour of leaving Bristol for London after the last performance on Saturday, the hire car in which they were travelling collided with a lamp standard at Rowden Hill on the outskirts of Chippenham.

    ‘Mr Cochran’s body will eventually be taken back to America for burial. ‘There were two other passengers, Miss Sharon Sheeley (20), an American song- writer and Mr Patrick Tompkins (29), a theatrical agent of St James Road, Camberwell, London. ‘They too are detained at St Martin’s Hospital,in the city of Bath. Miss Sheeley with injuries to back and thigh, and Mr Tomkins with facial injuries and a suspected fracture of the base of the skull. ‘Neither Mr Vincent nor his two friends were said last night to be on the danger list.

    ‘The driver of the car, Mr George Martin of Bristol, was unhurt. ‘There were no other vehicles involved. Mr Tompkins said: ‘Just outside Chippenham the front tyre blew out and we skidded sideways into a lamp standard’. ‘He added that he had been planning to take a train back to London from Bristol but Mr Vincent suggested travelling by taxi.‘ The Everly brothers, Don and Phil, were in Bristol the next day and were deeply shocked by the news

    Well, the accident damage doesn’t correspond with being wrapped round a lamp post, and a sideways skid seems rather unlikely.
    There’s more nonsense in this “official story”
    https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=cemVUgQv0rMC&pg=PT70&lpg=PT70&dq=eddie+cochran+patrick+thomkin&source=bl&ots=r8R2A-Mkyl&sig=u-N2lQT71tDxGU_1gckre9HDxIE&hl=en&sa=X&ei=ZGRxVd6bBuSc7gbymYPoBQ&ved=0CEIQ6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q=eddie%20cochran%20patrick%20thomkin&f=false

    …a breakdown truck driver [no police at scene, clearly] allowed the following car to syphon gas from the Cochran wreck! I call garbage on that.

    Regular road manager Hal Carter [d.2004] had been removed for the last Bristol dates and a substitute manager Patrick Thompkins[sic] was used

    Larry Parnes took Carter off the tour on the last night because he needed him for a recording of the television programme Wham!

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/obituaries/hal-carter-6165433.html
    [Real name Harold Carter Burrows,b 1935, Liverpool]

    And what of the elusive Mr Tompkins or Thompkins? No recorded birth.
    http://charliehall.proboards.com/thread/14746

    Pat Thompkin’s own account of the journey indicates they were going the other way, which would be downhill. How could that be possible ?

    This is Pat Thompkin’s account recalling the event sometime later.

    *) “The driver decided on a short cut on the outskirts of Chippenham. We came out from under a viaduct and there was a bridge in front us. On your right is the A4, and on the left is the bridge and the A4 to London. Well, he saw a sign for the A4 and took that one. I told him he was going the wrong way. When he saw a milestone he realized he was going the wrong way and hit the brakes, which put the car into a spin. He lost control, and the Ford Consul sped backwards and slammed into the concrete lamp post”.
    If they are still alive today, Pat Thompkins would be 82 and George Martin 80 years of age. Sharon Sheeley died On May 17th 2002, aged 62. She returned to the UK in 2000 for the festival in Chippenham to remember 40 years since his death, and the placement of the plaque on Rowden Hill.

    If they are still alive today, Pat Thompkins would be 82 and George Martin 80 years of age.

    [if those are their real names]

    David Harman, a young police cadet at Chippenham Police station, was one of the first of the emergency services on the scene. (He would later become known as Dave Dee, of Dave Dee, Dozy Beaky, Mick & Tich fame).

    C’mon [wake up] Everybody!

    http://www.billyfury.com/wider_world/halcarter/

    Sharon Sheeley, who was in the car, speaks…[2001] Hal Carter speaks at 4:00 and from about 7:18; Johnny Gentle at 8.57 [he who allegedly syphoned fuel from the death crash wreck…]

    Sharon: “I knew the minuted that car door shut something was going to happen The minute the door shut it was almost like a tomb closing on me. As we drove along I remember thinkng not ‘we could have an accident’ but I remember thinking ‘When are we going to have the accident'”

    Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm……

    #287238

    xileffilex
    Participant

    Some press reports of the Eddie Cochran crash hoax:
    Bristol Chronicles 1960 - 1965

    ‘Two American recording stars, Eddie Cochran and Gene Vincent, who headed the bill in a rock’n’roll show at Bristol Hippodrome last week, and were due to fly home to America, were involved in a crash yesterday. ‘Mr Cochran died, without regaining consciousness, at St Martin’s Hospital, Bath yesterday afternoon. Mr Vincent, with a fractured collarbone, is still detained there. ‘Within an hour of leaving Bristol for London after the last performance on Saturday, the hire car in which they were travelling collided with a lamp standard at Rowden Hill on the outskirts of Chippenham.

    ‘Mr Cochran’s body will eventually be taken back to America for burial. ‘There were two other passengers, Miss Sharon Sheeley (20), an American song- writer and Mr Patrick Tompkins (29), a theatrical agent of St James Road, Camberwell, London. ‘They too are detained at St Martin’s Hospital,in the city of Bath. Miss Sheeley with injuries to back and thigh, and Mr Tomkins with facial injuries and a suspected fracture of the base of the skull. ‘Neither Mr Vincent nor his two friends were said last night to be on the danger list.

    ‘The driver of the car, Mr George Martin of Bristol, was unhurt. ‘There were no other vehicles involved. Mr Tompkins said: ‘Just outside Chippenham the front tyre blew out and we skidded sideways into a lamp standard’. ‘He added that he had been planning to take a train back to London from Bristol but Mr Vincent suggested travelling by taxi.‘ The Everly brothers, Don and Phil, were in Bristol the next day and were deeply shocked by the news

    Well, the accident damage doesn’t correspond with being wrapped round a lamp post, and a sideways skid seems rather unlikely.
    There’s more nonsense in this “official story”
    https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=cemVUgQv0rMC&pg=PT70&lpg=PT70&dq=eddie+cochran+patrick+thomkin&source=bl&ots=r8R2A-Mkyl&sig=u-N2lQT71tDxGU_1gckre9HDxIE&hl=en&sa=X&ei=ZGRxVd6bBuSc7gbymYPoBQ&ved=0CEIQ6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q=eddie%20cochran%20patrick%20thomkin&f=false

    …a breakdown truck driver [no police at scene, clearly] allowed the following car to syphon gas from the Cochran wreck! I call garbage on that.

    Regular road manager Hal Carter [d.2004] had been removed for the last Bristol dates and a substitute manager Patrick Thompkins[sic] was used

    Larry Parnes took Carter off the tour on the last night because he needed him for a recording of the television programme Wham!

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/obituaries/hal-carter-6165433.html
    [Real name Harold Carter Burrows,b 1935, Liverpool]

    And what of the elusive Mr Tompkins or Thompkins? No recorded birth.
    http://charliehall.proboards.com/thread/14746

    Pat Thompkin’s own account of the journey indicates they were going the other way, which would be downhill. How could that be possible ?

    This is Pat Thompkin’s account recalling the event sometime later.

    *) “The driver decided on a short cut on the outskirts of Chippenham. We came out from under a viaduct and there was a bridge in front us. On your right is the A4, and on the left is the bridge and the A4 to London. Well, he saw a sign for the A4 and took that one. I told him he was going the wrong way. When he saw a milestone he realized he was going the wrong way and hit the brakes, which put the car into a spin. He lost control, and the Ford Consul sped backwards and slammed into the concrete lamp post”.
    If they are still alive today, Pat Thompkins would be 82 and George Martin 80 years of age. Sharon Sheeley died On May 17th 2002, aged 62. She returned to the UK in 2000 for the festival in Chippenham to remember 40 years since his death, and the placement of the plaque on Rowden Hill.

    If they are still alive today, Pat Thompkins would be 82 and George Martin 80 years of age.

    [if those are their real names]

    David Harman, a young police cadet at Chippenham Police station, was one of the first of the emergency services on the scene. (He would later become known as Dave Dee, of Dave Dee, Dozy Beaky, Mick & Tich fame).

    C’mon [wake up] Everybody!

    http://www.billyfury.com/wider_world/halcarter/

    Sharon Sheeley, who was in the car, speaks…[2001] Hal Carter speaks at 4:00 and from about 7:18; Johnny Gentle at 8.57 [he who allegedly syphoned fuel from the death crash wreck…]

    Sharon: “I knew the minuted that car door shut something was going to happen The minute the door shut it was almost like a tomb closing on me. As we drove along I remember thinkng not ‘we could have an accident’ but I remember thinking ‘When are we going to have the accident'”

    Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm……

    #287239

    xileffilex
    Participant

    …..man in striped pullover, unnamed at 12:00

    “It hit the post side on and it threw everthing and everybody out onto the grass It was just like a battlefield, you couldn’t say anything else

    [mmm wonder how that petrol was syphoned of?]

    Le Déjeuner sur l’herbe…

    The doors were wide open…sheets of music were blowing all over the place

    “we saw bits of paper which we didn’t realise at the time was sheet music and this car on its side” – Johnny Gentle [pop singer, who would have been familiar with “sheet music”, perhaps?] followed by a faithful recounting of the syphon incident in the “battlefield”
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Gentle
    “Sharon suffered a broken back, neck and pelvis”
    “A 10 per chance to live and yet I pulled through….I left my heart here [in the Bath hospital] ”

    Nurse: “Three Steps to Heaven was on the ward radio” hmmmmm

    #287279
    rgos
    rgos
    Participant

    a theatrical agent of St James Road

    a theatrical agent

    More bold xilef, more bold.

    #287353
    rgos
    rgos
    Participant

    …scrub post…this forum is getting too slow…

    #287354
    rgos
    rgos
    Participant

    scrub 2

    #287422
    rgos
    rgos
    Participant

    Crazy about James Dean.
    Liked to die in a car accident.
    I’d have to die in a Mini.

    He said that in 1966. Which is an extraordinary thing to say.

    Crashed in 1977. FOX 66IL

    Truly extraordinary.

    #287423
    rgos
    rgos
    Participant

    At 16.30:

    The record “Three Steps to Heaven” was on the ward radio.

    Sure.

    #287424

    xileffilex
    Participant

    Crazy about James Dean.
    Liked to die in a car accident.
    I’d have to die in a Mini.

    He said that in 1966. Which is an extraordinary thing to say.

    Crashed in 1977. FOX 66IL

    Truly extraordinary.

    Indeed, rgos.
    He also seemed to be a very earlier user of the Heavy Metal Umlaut — or the Glam Rock Umlaut – see 9:00 and 9:26 – which is unremarked on elsewhere. Otherwise this has no relevance to the thread. He was a Metal Guru though, through and through.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metal_umlaut

    althought

    #287462
    rgos
    rgos
    Participant

    What’s that about Gerri Knetemann, rgos? Did he not have a heart attack while out riding?
    I guess he was the equivalent of a pop star in the Netherlands.

    Cycling: also totally drug-ridden and media-driven. He “died” on the same day as that other talented faker, Theo van Gogh.

    I really think they are sending ‘m off to the Radler Reservation in pairs.

    Marc Bolan and Maria Callas.

    Give it a bit of Noah’s Ark touch…

    #287469

    xileffilex
    Participant

    Thanks rgos – alarm bells straight away:

    was riding his mountain bike with three friends in Bergen when he stopped to fix his chain, which had fallen off. While he was fixing it, his heart stopped. The exact cause of his death is unknown.

    http://autobus.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2004/nov04/nov03newsflash
    Seems like a badly maintained bike being ridden by a novice…

    The usual hug-fest
    http://www.shp-fotonet.nl/categories.php?cat_id=1270&sessionid=c73c3a8d78f973371b4aa960e267c9dc

    Hij was ridder in de Orde van Oranje-Nassau.

    https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=20pg76wmAucC&pg=PA297&lpg=PA297&dq=wife+%22gerrie+knetemann%22&source=bl&ots=weoochJiga&sig=vCGo2xmpLb5K2PhTBrwfHLWKNr0&hl=en&sa=X&ei=MMJxVYrXEoSE7gb95IOQAg&ved=0CFoQ6AEwDQ#v=onepage&q=wife%20%22gerrie%20knetemann%22&f=false

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    #287544
    rgos
    rgos
    Participant

    Using a polygraph to test a professional cyclist for drug use. Talk about gilding the lily…

    #287619
    rgos
    rgos
    Participant

    And now it makes you wonder: where are these girls and guys going? Where is the Radler reservation? Where are the Islands?
    Bolan was a tax-exile in Monte Carlo, so are places like these candidates?

    Monte Carlo
    Geneve
    Montreux
    Lichtenstein
    Andorra

    Or simply hiding in plain sight, as Ab suggested?

    I like Andorra for a little bit of peace and quiet:

    #287620
    rgos
    rgos
    Participant

    Ha, winki:

    In various versions of The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy by Douglas Adams, the rock star Hotblack Desiato is reported as “spending a year dead for tax reasons”. Also in The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy, the character of Veet Voojagig “was finally sent into tax exile, which is the usual fate reserved for those who are determined to make a fool of themselves in public.”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_exile

    #287658
    rgos
    rgos
    Participant

    The photo of Gene Vincent in the wheelchair with briefcase is hilarious.

    The briefcase contains the sheet music, I take it?

    #287661
    rgos
    rgos
    Participant

    Go!

    #287702

    xileffilex
    Participant

    http://www.hotblackdesiato.co.uk/about-us/
    [it’s one real firm, not two]

    [The extremely unfunny, imho] Douglas Adams
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/1330138/Douglas-Adams.html

    died suddenly in California aged 49

    [only two years after moving there] from an unexpected heart attack….

    Adams died of a heart attack on 11 May 2001, aged 49, after resting from his regular workout at a private gym in Montecito, California.

    I see…

    The British-born Adams died Friday of an apparent heart attack in Santa Barbara, Calif., a family friend, Elizabeth Gibson, said Saturday. She said Adams collapsed while working out at a gym.
    “He was not ill,” Gibson said. “This was completely unexpected.”

    Ah, the “family friend” releasing information. Standard.
    http://www.nytimes.com/books/01/05/13/daily/adams-obit.html

    #287739

    xileffilex
    Participant

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    The briefcase contains the sheet music, I take it?

    I think it’s a Magic Suitcase….

    A rider who is doping is said to be loading the cannon, pissing violet or to be in possession of a magic suitcase.

    http://www.standard.co.uk/lifestyle/london-life/cyclopedia-your-guide-to-the-tour-de-france-as-it-prepares-to-speed-through-london-9575291.html

    #291891
    rgos
    rgos
    Participant

    Different genre, same MO?

    Sending ‘m off to the Reservation in pairs?

    Not sure about the second, but the first has the whiff about him.

    65, that’s retirement age.
    Had a rare spinal cord infarction two years ago causing partial paralysis.
    He could still drive a car to Austria.
    Then went out biking on his trike with his brother and got hit by another cyclist in a strange bike accident.
    Fell from his bike and died in hospital.
    Death announced by manager/family friend.

    http://www.ad.nl/ad/nl/1002/Show/article/detail/4054114/2015/06/04/Zanger-Albert-West-65-overleden.dhtml

    http://www.thisisthewestcountry.co.uk/leisure/national/13323359.Big_band_leader_James_Last_dies_at_86/

    #291892
    rgos
    rgos
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