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    OK now we’re here, let’s check out Dunstan.
    An interesting and genuine looking tribute from Columbus Ohio…
    Remembering Dick Dunstan

    It has been 11 years since the World Trade Centre vanished, and we learned about the tragic loss of Dick Dunstan.
    Dick and I attended St. Aubyns Preparatory School and Felstead School together. By coincidence, we both chose to pursue our careers in America. I managed to contact Dick a couple of times, when I learned that he lived with his family in New Jersey. In retrospect, I only wish I had made more of an effort to visit him.
    I have read a number of testimonials to Dick, and I cannot offer any greater tribute to him, other than to echo the those testimonials, which all share the same warm memories of him. Dick was a truly remarkable individual; he was blessed with a calm and constant demeanour, he was a great scholar and a highly talented sportsman. Dick excelled in Cricket, Field Hockey and Golf; he was a fierce competitor.
    I do not know Dick’s family, but my thoughts and prayers are constantly with them; he must have been a wonderful, loving husband and father.
    My wife Elva and I have just returned from a trip to New York City and it was the first time I had a chance to visit Dick’s Memorial; a fitting tribute to a wonderful man.
    As the Freedom Tower struggles to emerge from the ashes of the World Trade Centre, Dick’s name will be indelibly etched there in stone, and his spirit will linger eternally in the chilling air.

    Posted by Nigel Simpson on 2012-10-03

    Yep, he has a long back story, member of the Mid Ohio Porsche club with his [much younger] wife Elva Maria Lewis-Simpson.

    Click to access 2015_12.pdf

    He’s 71 she’s 48. He was born Ilford 1946, his brother Dudley in 1943. Nigel says he and 9/11 “victim” Richard Dunstan went to Felsted [correct spelling] exclusive, private boarding school in Essex. St Aubyn’s is a fee-paying school in Woodford Green for younger children. And whom do we see in the Felsted old boys’ golf club ? Dudley.
    Believe me. these are well connected people.
    So I think we can assume Richard went to Felsted.
    father –
    Denis Cuthbert Dunstan, b. 1907 died 1966. 31 August of 182 Redbridge Lane East, Ilford. Estate E17117 probate to Grace Agnes Mary Dunstan who died herself in 1987 [b. 1908] July 3 Estate £67953 at Green Elms which was probably a retirement home.

    Brother David may have gone to Canada.

    The family of Richard Dunstan still thinks about him often.
    “My husband wasn’t able to walk my daughter down the aisle at her wedding,” New Providence resident Janet Dunstan told the Courier News in May when news broke that Osama bin Laden, the mastermind of the attacks, had been killed. “That will never change,” she added. “I still don’t really know what the word ‘closure’ means.”
    Richard, a 54-year-old insurance broker, was on the 99th floor of the World Trade Center’s South Tower when it collapsed.
    Dunstan said her daughter, Linda, married in 2006 and now lives in Scotch Plains. Her son Chris is working his way through college. And all three still desperately miss the family’s patriarch.
    “They’ve carried on, but their lives are not what they would have been,” Dunstan said about her children. “It’s that missing place at the table.”

    The only flies in the ointment seem to be that Janet Arleen Dunstan is, according to US data sites, 77 years old, although she seems to have graduated from the University of Maryland c 1972, her son is 30 and daughter LAURA Diane is 37. [not Linda, a nice piece of misdirection]
    From the 15th annversary, we find a family group

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    Simon Maddison has a lot of back story in Harlow – Passmores School
    Well, everybody’s all still there and very ‘together’ in 2016, 15 years on….

    Let’s see how things have moved on. But wait, I note that Simon Maddison gets cited in the Vicsim Report. Well, Simon’s a real person so we can forget all that nonsense about Maddison Avenue and morphing.

    I omitted to mention the sister Penelope Jane Maddison , the eldest of the brood, born 1949 [Q2] [Simon was the youngest, born 12 years later] Simon’s father died in 2005 aged 79.
    Here she is…[previously Penny Favis]

    Laura Maddison Malcolm looks like a happy camper !!

    Who’s Laura? I have no idea. No such birth registered in England/Wales, close to Penelope on Facebook [vide supra]
    Originally from England , I now reside in Tavernier, Florida Keys
    Owner Operator at The Keys Salt Scrub
    Studied at Kingsbridge Community College
    Went to Bottisham Village College
    Lives in Tavernier, Florida
    From Woking
    Manages The Keys Salt Scrub

    Yes, she does…

    Here’s Emily keeping the 9/11 hoax alive in 2017

    and Simon’s wife Maureen

    liked by Sue Maddison [sister-in-law, wife of Simon’s brother Stephen ….who keeps the hoax going also…

    It’s quite a family affair.
    But the condolences at have dried up.

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    From Cluesforum, Timothy Murphy on Celebrities thread
    [proving the true identity of 7/7 “victim” Miriam Hyman]

    That would appear to be strong evidence against vicSimhood.
    But i contend that that these records are by no means infallible.
    My suspician [sic] is that since at least WW2, the records have been purposely adulterated with fake identities for fraudsters to “harvest” at their convenience.

    This is, of course, untested, and in fact it would require hundreds and hundreds of inserted fake identities peppering the contemporary records of births and each one having an army of gatekeepers to attest to their school/college/work companionship.

    So back to the Maddisons….
    The Guestbook for Simon Maddison is mainly supported by family, with a few former Harlow friends,
    First among them is Peter Terry
    Peter is actually a facebook friend of Simon’s wife and Kyle, a much closer friend than someone like John Clarke [tribute] who remembers him from Passmores.

    Peter is another former Passmores School, Harlow pupil, the same year as Simon Maddison. So once again it’s reasonable to dump the Timothy Murphy conjecture.

    Kyle has recently taken to uploading family shots of him with his father, always as day or two later for 9/11, strangely…[his sisters Caileigh and Sydney ignore 9/11]

    Quite where Laura Claire Maddison fits in is still unclear..
    Laura Claire Maddison also known as Laura Claire Ward also previously of Costa Mesa Ca
    DOB 10/24/64
    Laura M Ward

    City: Centennial, Colorado

    Relatives: Kim M Ward, Laura C Maddison, Jennifer L Fife
    Addresses: 6471 S Birch Cir, Centennial, CO

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    Just found this excellent post at LRF, 2006 from Phil Jayhan
    …I have scoured & studied the passenger lists, and there are far too many coinkidinks on these flight manifests. I have long suspected that, because flight 77 (Pentagon strike) had so many Pentagon people, and Defense Contractors aboard, that it was basically a list of some of the perpetrators or helpers on the 911 conspiracy. The idea is simple enough. Many of the helpers/planners of this conspiracy simply put themselves on the flight lists of the four doomed jets, and then start out a new life afterwards under different assumed names…[.That was eleven and a half years ago. But it had been going on for years beforehand with all the other staged disasters and continues to do so to this day and the same successful format will continue into the future. [the above thread went no further]

    Continuing from earier post

    Fishy Firms in the Twin Towers

    I have found a list of Fred Alger “victims” online [archived]

    Click to access WSJadQuarter911.pdf

    This company supplied 35 “victims” from the 93rd floor [allegedly] essentially a planeload of them.
    Ted Adderley
    David Alger
    Janice Ashley
    Helen Belilovsky
    Michael Boccardi
    Dotti Chiarchiaro
    Chris Ciafardini
    Dolores Costa
    Jerry DeVito
    Barbara Etzold
    Sean Fegan
    Peter Frank
    Lisa Gregg
    Brad Hoorn
    Michael Howell
    Seilai Khoo
    Andrew Kim
    Catherine MacRae
    Sara Manley
    Avnish Patel
    Tu-Anh Pham
    Ed Pykon
    Ginger Risco
    John Schroeder
    Johanna Sigmund
    Dianne Signer
    Artie Simon
    Bonnie Smithwick
    Mike Tamuccio
    Ron Tartaro
    Jennifer Tzemis
    Tyler Ugolyn
    Greg Wachtler
    Meredith Whalen
    Myrna Yaskulka

    “Sara Manley” was the wife of Bill Harvey who just happened to be a friend of Beverly Eckert who “perished” in a staged plane crash in 2013. Manley only married Harvey on month before 9/11….
    Sara’s legacy has gone cold for the past 4 years.
    The NYDN article has been updated in 2013, but the alleged death of Eckert was on Feb 12 2009.
    Another salient quote from LRF
    I’m thinkin “somebody” wanted to retire in Tahiti with “dead” hubby.
    To be continued…

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    Mr Harvey is still roaming around in the commercial property world
    is active within his community. He chairs the $1 million Sara Manley Harvey/John Carroll Scholarship endowment campaign at Georgetown University

    Bill Harvey

    From John Manley, Sara’s brother in 2011
    Sara is remembered by the Fabretto Children’s Foundation, a charity that seeks to enable impoverished Nicaraguan children and their families to break the cycle of poverty and reach their full potential through programs promoting education, nutrition, health and community development. Sara’s involvement with Fabretto led to her meeting her husband. Here, too, she so excelled at fundraising that the organization has constructed and dedicated a multi-purpose building in her honor in Somoto, Nicaragua. The president of Nicaragua and the American ambassador spoke at the dedication, which was attended by several other dignitaries, as well. A photograph of Sara is permanently displayed in the building.

    On the other hand, Sara will never be any older than she was on that fateful morning 10 years ago. Her husband has since remarried and been blessed with two children.

    John Manley is a long-time Irish Echo sports columnist, reporting on boxing and golf.
    At least the photo is a different one from that at Legacy, or, for that matter, the one at CNN

    Also remembered at the annual Carolina Inn Easter Egg hunt where the Harveys had their wedding reception in 8/11 in 2001.


    I haven’t covered Melanie Louise de Vere, one of the Risk Waters vicsims, allegedly evacuated to the roof of the WTC by Christine Oleader
    There’s a lot of evidence for her existence, from school friends, etc., so quite a few people are living with the lie.
    Her mother had in 2016 recently retired from her beauty salon business [replaced by Madeleine Hannah De Vere] and the assets liquidated.[approx £95K] in 2017
    Registered office address changed from 32 Station Road Hayling Island Hampshire PO11 0EG to 2 Scotlands Drive Haslemere GU27 2FJ on 23 May 2017
    sister of Melanie, Ruth de Vere having become the sole director, following the retirement of their mother Margaret Helen Owen nee Budd.

    Why was Ruths company, registered in 2003 named “Madeleine’s”? Madeleine was only born in 1997.

    Father and son [brother Frederick, who is quoted in the above 9/11 tributes] seem quite separate.
    Father David briefly appeared in the media in 2006 [he remarried in 1999]

    David de Vere, who lives in England and whose daughter Melanie died in the World Trade Center, declined an invitation to view the trial as a representative of British citizens who were killed.
    “Apart from the logistical and cost problems of crossing the pond,” he said, he chose not to attend the trial because he did not view Moussaoui as representing the entire conspiracy.

    I have fond memories of Mel, her family and friends when they stayed at my chalet in Chamonix for a week skiing, I remember them all very well, we had a great week on the slopes. Mel was amazingly generous and friendly to her family, me and my staff. I was deeply shocked when I found she was in the towers which I only discovered when I saw her father on tv at a memorial in London. A good life wasted for nothing.

    *** Posted by Pete Gable on 2012-03-15 ***
    Well, here’s Pete, seems like the Chamonix incident was post 1995, ie. after Melanie’s parents had split up, so I’m guessing she came with her father.
    Pete now runs, interestingly, a retreat in Chaing Mai in Thailand…and one in BC Canada.

    Mother Margaret had married Hugh Owen locally in 1990.

    It was alleged that Melanie had a boyfriend Ian Roberts whom she was going to marry, indeed had set up home with on 9/11 [just] What has he said of his ‘loss’? Nothing.
    Not here, on this site [created by ?]

    a bizarre set of over 100 friends who seem to be people who knew her at school, or knew people who knew her, many are local to the Portsmouth area. Or perhaps just heard about her. Curious.

    Other attested to her working at Guys Hospital London and Sinah Warren Hotel in Hayling Island.

    Timothy Murphy compiled this extensive dossier on her 8 years ago
    which is further proof of her existence when compared with the above. He adds she studied at Westminster University, London.

    I studied with Mel in London for two years of evening classes. We had many fun evenings, and I remember her well. Whenever I am in NY, I always make a point of going to Ground Zero to find her name and to take a few minutes to remember.

    *** Posted by Warren Newell on 2010-09-09 ***
    The next year, we learn…
    That checks out….
    Warren Newell
    Utrecht Area, Netherlands
    Head of ORC Wholesale, Rabobank International

    Behavioural Coaching Institute 2008 — 2008
    Master Coach, Applied Coaching

    University of Westminster 1995 — 1997
    Business & Finance

    Wymondham College 1975 — 1979
    She studied dentistry at Highbury College before moving to London when she was 20.

    That would be Dental nursing, I imagine, at Highbury College, Cosham, Portsmouth, rather than training to be a dentist. [and then a conference organiser…..]

    Read more at:

    She has the slimmest of the slim 9/11 Legacy pages – perhaps it’s all gone over to facebook.

    PS Maggie Owen’s modest house was sold recently, last sale in 1996 for £58K
    24, Brampton Lane, Portsmouth PO3 5TB
    £250,000 Semi-Detached, Freehold, Residential 19 Jan 2018

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    Oddly, Culto never mentioned Andreas Binder of Vienna, who has posted several messages on the Ingeborg Lariby tribute page
    Dear Ingeborg! Your Spirit is still here in Vienna,i will Never forget you……
    Andreas ( your ” Mr.Binder”)

    *** Posted by Andreas binder on 2011-09-12
    and at –
    September 12, 2011
    Dear Ingeborg!
    It was a very nice Time in Vienna with you,unfortunately you showed me in Februar 2001 the regus Center in the Twin Tower, i told you it,s saver to stay in Austria,but you loved your New York so much…..
    I will Never forget you…….
    Andy(your “Mr. Binder”)
    Andreas Binder, Vienna

    I am led to this article about Regus opening in Vienna in 2001
    The British supplier of fully equipped modern offices Regus Group has opened its biggest business centre in Europe and the fourth in total in Vienna.

    Situated on the 12th to 15th floors of the Vienna Twin Tower complex in the South of the city, the business centre offers 5,500 square metres of conference rooms and offices of all shapes and sizes and some breathtaking views over Vienna.

    Regus business development manager for Austria, Andreas Binder, said: “Due to the size of the centre we offer the perfect solution for business wanting to expand or relocate to this prestigious building. For clients with international links or specific deadlines, they are able to access their office 24 hours a day and seven days a week, services can also be provided out of office hours on request.”

    Regus group sales director, Huw Williams, explained the services that the company offers: “If you need an office for one person for half a day whilst on business in Vienna we can provide that for you as simply as walking in, sitting down and starting work.”

    I can’t get a handle on Binder, a not uncommon name, but Williams is still about
    sales director Central/Eastern Europe for Regus 2000-2001

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    Going by this tribute maybe she’s living in Colombia. Perhaps Gaia can check out the expat Dutch Community there.

    We went to college (Richmond College) together in London, UK early in the 1980s. She dated my roommate, Ardeshir Modanlou. She was the kindest, funniest, sweetest person I’ve ever met, but above all she was a great friend. I lost touch after graduation in 1983, when we all took different paths. I went back to my hometown of Bogota, Colombia and never heard from her again. But after all these years, I can still remember her smile, her friendship; she was always there to lend a hand. En estos dias no sale el sol sino tu rostro y en el silencio sordo del tiempo gritan tus ojos!

    [Ed. – “These days the sun doesn’t come out except in your countenance, and in the deaf silence of time your eyes cry out!”]

    *** Posted by Rodrigo Idrovo on 2010-09-02 ***


    I think the Iranian boyfriend is well off the scene – he’s now in Canada. Wonder if he has yearnings?

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    Rodrigo Idrovo

    Nah, I’d rather not antipodean, thanks.

    Mr. Idrovo works for the Organization of American States and is associated with the embassy. Basically combining business and politics to get deals done, same old:

    Looks like he commutes between Colombia and Miami, certainly not the only one to do so:

    Juan Luque, Mónika Bravo, Mónica Lorduy y Rodrigo Idrovo

    At the Chamber of Commerce in Bogotá

    At an “art” exhibition with a transpicuous “lady” next to him in Miami

    "A truth seeker is someone who dares to wade through thick series of toxic smoke screens and tries not to inhale" - Gaia (2017)

    "What do you call 'genius'?" "Well, seeing things others don't see. Or rather the invisible links between things." - Vladimir Nabokov (1938)


    Why not read the whole LRF Lariby thread gaia? Fascinating research.
    Here’s where Culto got roughed up at CF [et seq]
    This is the “transpicuous lady” who I suspect is Idrovo’s wife who moves in the DC art world.

    So, is he yet another backstopper of Ingeborg?
    Ingeborg’s sister has cleansed her FB pages, a friend is Nicole Batchelor [Regne]
    q.v. in the Culto post above.
    Nicole has posted this photo of herself as a Pan Am flight attendant

    Another FB friend of Sacha is Gerald Mackenzie Castro
    who was Ingeborg’s partner until 9/11….

    9/11 Regus gatekeepr Paul V Carter popped up in 2016 with a Lariby tribute

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    9/11 “victim” Richard Anthony Dawson from England makes a rare appearance by name in the Vicsim Report. However, there is a large amount of information pointing to his real existence as RA Dawson until 9/11 or thereabouts.
    antipodean’s post is a good starter, although Friends Reunited has bitten the dust

    A chatty post at 9/11 heroes from a Christopher [Morris] Bosley mentions two other friends the Aparicios . All three have documented births in Bournemouth, where the Dawsons moved to [he and his three siblings were born in Nottingham, Richard’s birth [1969 Q3] being recorded not once but twice [!] probably for the reason that his 19 year old mother was not married, so further details were added in 1970 Q4 [his parents married in 1969, quarter not recorded.
    Siblings – Amanda Jane b 1971 Q2 Catherine Louise “Louise” 1973 Q3 Eric Roger “Roger” 1974 Q3.
    His father, born 1938, died in 1991, Eric R. Dawson of 54 Cecil Avenue, Bournemouth, on December 21.
    The reported marriage of his younger brother Eric Roger in May 2001 is confirmed in BMD data, spouse Sara A Robertson.

    Christopher [John] Whitley, b 1970, noted by Antipodean as another Bournemouth scholar, has also dropped by on Legacy last year

    Here’s Eric
    they could easily be brothers. No connections made with 9/11 anywhere….

    Mum Helen K. seems to have dropped off the radar since 2011.

    A tribute sheet is archived [no longer on the web]

    Click to access tributes.pdf

    which has contributions from, inter alia, former girlfriend Lara Perkins and Stepfather Malcolm Simpson.
    first archive August 2000
    This page is dedicated to the The is a group of (mostly) squash friends (mostly) from our days at Southampton University, some of the members of the previously went under the name of Bevois Patrol. In those days most of us were fit and streamlined, but less time for squash and the rigors of age and work has led to the filling of a few waistlines – hence the It should be noted that a few of the founder members got some training in for this during the early days. Well enough for now, and remember the motto: ‘You can’t boast until you’ve got a good length.
    October 2000

    photo archived August 10 2001
    Richard Dawson
    Picture: The happy couple
    AKA: Fascist landlord, Dobbo, Dobbin, Donkey, etc. etc.
    Current Location: Southampton (still)
    Lard Rating: 4 tubs
    Specialist Ability: Single handedly keeping the British economy running
    Current Team: Ward 7, B team
    Most Well Known For: Donkey drop shot
    Homepage: –

    plenty of references to Dobbo playing squash

    Roy’s stag 1999 – time to go ashore, Richard on right…

    even an archived email from Dobbo in 1999
    Dear chums,

    I know email from me is a rare and beautiful thing, hence you are all
    probably just picking yourself off the floor about now…

    I thought I would just drop a line and update you all on things Dobbo…

    I left Telsis (hurrah I here half of you say) on April 30th after over 6
    of devoted attention to saving the UK economy .. now that I have
    achieved this goal (!!) I have decided to sit back and let everybody
    else do the work from now on….. back in the real world …. my
    frustration levels at Telsis basically even exceeded my legendary
    tolerance (!) – I was picking fights with the directors at every
    opportunity, so when my ex-boss offered me a new job, I decided to take
    a deep breath and go for it. Anyway I am now a Product Manager at Racal
    Recorders Ltd
    , which is located near Hythe (about 1 mile from Fawley) –
    lots more responsibility, less travel and other perks, including these
    wonderful “internet” and “email” things. Unfortunately I have to be at
    work by 8:30 in the mornings (which has proved less of a shock than I
    thought), the good thing being we finish at 5:30 Mon – Thu and 2:50 (!)
    on Fridays – so as usual I am staying behind late again.

    I am currently in the process of purchasing a new house – Canton Street
    (just off Bedford Place)
    – a three bedroom, three storey Victorian
    terrace. It needs a bit of internal decoration but otherwise is quite
    lovely – the garden is very nice, although a little small (no more
    orgies after BBQs I’m afraid Feltchy). The survey is just about to
    happen, so I hope it doesn’t highlight too many problems. I hope to be
    in by the end of June, or failing that, end of July, so my annual B-day
    bash will be happening therefore hopefully (7th August). Victoria is
    moving in too, at least for the time being.

    Nothing to report on the female side of things – I am quite enjoying
    myself at the moment and I figure changing my job, house and car are
    enough for the time being – we’ll see what happens. I’ve basically
    committed to Southampton for the next three years, unless something goes
    badly wrong with this new job,
    so I can’t hide behind the “I don’t know
    what I want” excuses any more (not that I ever make excuses).

    My annual birthday bash is on the 7th August this year – it just happens
    to be my 30th
    and falls on a Saturday, so I’m planning a huge festival
    of Woodstock (or should that be Lardstock) proportions. Please consider
    this an invitation – can you all let me know if you can make it – I
    believe Royster’s stag night is the following weekend, with the event of
    the millenium itself, the wedding, taking place the weekend after that
    (21st). There should be plenty of space – I’m not sure whether to just
    have a huge rocking party or hit a restaurant – let me know what your
    preferences are.

    I’ve just spent an excellent 10 days in San Diego with Smithy ( +
    Victoria) and Wales – loads of sun (Wales is still a pasty white thing),
    lots of chat, banter, philosophy, deep meaningful conversations,
    Tequila, white wine and lots of squash. Marvellous.. I even managed to
    lose a little weight, but I’ll leave Smithy to recount that particular
    subject as he seemed to find it so amusing……Many thanks to Nick for
    putting us up and keeping us fed.

    I’m sure there’s lots more but I’m anxious to send this off and see what
    happens – knowing my luck the email police will intercept it and
    discipline me for wasting company resources….

    Best regards,


    This may be Dobbo in Argentina, another wedding, in 2000 3rd from left

    I wonder where he is now.
    “Lara Perkins” seems to melt away.

    An what may we find in the 9/11 museum?
    the wallet of Englishman Richard Dawson, who died while at a conference. It contains his UK driving licence and Sainsbury’s reward card
    source, May 14 2014
    which was nicely teed up by “Lara Perkins” back in 2002…where she otherwise says nothing concrete
    Shopping was done at Sainsbury’s, credit cards were used, and mobile network chosen all so that Air miles could be earned.


    Hi Felix it’s possible that the PTB could trawl Social Network sites (such as FR) to find the names of people from the same locality of a vicsim.
    Then a fake entry could be made using their name on the vicsim’s Legacy page.
    I touched on it here at Let’s Roll.


    A poster (called cmain) on the 7/7 forum claims to have been a work colleague of Richard Dawson.
    Unfortunately the forum has changed it’s appearance and is difficult to navigate around..

    Anthony Richard Dawson, half way down page 35.
    He was a real person. I worked for him from October 1999 to September 2000.

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    Hi Felix it’s possible that the PTB could trawl Social Network sites (such as FR) to find the names of people from the same locality of a vicsim.
    Then a fake entry could be made using their name on the vicsim’s Legacy page.
    I touched on it here at Let’s Roll.

    It’s possible but in this case there is too much hard information to write Dawson off as a sim.
    Dave Aparacio and Chris Bosley are FB friends but neither mentions 9/11 or Dawson


    Good research, xilef. Still interested in the howdunnit aspect of this charade.

    Just found this excellent post at LRF, 2006 from Phil Jayhan

    Was such a spreadsheet ever produced? Something like the Vicsim Report and Ab’s Histogram conflated.


    How, from the personnel management angle. That’s the $64trillion question in every hoax.
    The opening page of that thread is also worth reading, from a phase when brianV was producing excellent research.
    OK let’s go back to basics. Was JFK shot dead in Dallas – yes/no
    Was JFK a real person yes/no.

    Was Jo Cox MP a real person yes/no
    was she stabbed to death in Birstall England in 2016 yes/no

    etc etc.

    These things can be scaled up.



    blockquote>His ex-wife [perhaps a marriage of convenience for the sake of plot?] has remarried a tennis pro quickly in 2003 but keeps the name Eaton [odd or what?] not her maiden name.
    Read more:

    Apparently a woman remarrying and keeping her former married surname as a double barrel surname, with her new married surname isn’t that strange.
    In the enclosed article is a woman who kept her ex husband’s surname, despite divorcing him for being abusive.

    Carolyn Bryant Donham

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    I don’t see the link, Antipodean, but that 1955 murder may well be an agenda steering psy-op with a fake death and funeral
    The “exhumation” and confirmation of Till’s identity [section casket] appears to be standard hoax management with, naturally, DNA identification.

    Note the rather suspicious looking open casket funeral at 2.22 – 2.42 in the video, showing a “bloated body”:

    Note the staged “grieving” for the photographer.

    And at 2.30 here

    books, documentaries, plays, numerous movies based on the event….

    oK Back to topic….

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    I made the above post because it’s the only time I’ve come across a woman keeping her former married name after marrying, a new husband.
    Because I thought it weird that Jacqui Eaton Garland widow of Robert Eaton would remarry & keep the name Eaton, If I was the new husband I wouldn’t like it.

    I never intended to suggest there was some sort of link.

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