May 21, 2021 at 2:33 pm #1992303
hi flx …….do you have , or, could you take the time , to share any of your expertise ,on the ” plane crash ” in staines in the early 70s ……VD
I did briefly here but it’s always good to have a deeper [sky] dive…
A couple more videos
is a recreation, complete with “eyewitness” Frances Castledine [now MBE] “I heard a very loud thump” suuuure. then she dumps her baby with a neighbour and rushes off to look for survivors. “The vapour was very heavy in the air”. Baby or help. Answer – help. “I did my best, I manipulated his legs…he soon dies” **
More detail here – a detailed recapitulation of here story in 2015
The now 74-year-old still lives in the same Birch Green house as of 43 years ago when two brothers, Trevor and Paul Burke, knocked on her front door to tell her they had seen a plane crash behind her house on that fateful afternoon of Sunday June 18…The former Ashford Hospital accident and emergency nurse of six years would jump over a six foot wall in order to make her way to the crash site to help any of those on board who may have survived….
** Irish businessman Melville Miller b 1917 Managing director of Rowntree Mackintosh….
From the Irish Times, 1997
IRELAND’S entry to the EEC, as it was then called, was marred by the deaths of 12 of Ireland’s most prominent businessmen, who died in the Staines air disaster 25 years ago today.
The party was on its way to Brussels for discussions at the EEC headquarters following the passing of the referendum allowing Ireland to join the Community. Ireland acceded to membership the following year…..Those who died were: Mr Melville Miller, managing director of Rowntree-Mackintosh; Mr C.A. Smith, president of the Confederation of Irish Industry; Mr E.J. Gray, director-general of the CII; Mr Hugh Kilfeather, Coras Trachtala; Mr Michael Rigby-Jones, Irish Ropes Ltd; Mr Michael Sweetman, Irish Council for the European Movement; Mr Guy Jackson, Arthur Guinness; Mr E.A. Coleman, Irish Steel Holdings; Mr M.W. O’Reilly, Dublin Chamber of Commerce; Mr O.M. Lochrin, vice-president of the Association of Chambers of Commerce of Ireland; Mr F.M. Mooney; and Mr Ivan Webb, chairman of the Council of the Federated Union of Employers and managing director of G.T. Crampton.
Mr Miller was the only person to be taken alive from the aircraft, but he died later in hospital. He was a former advertising manager of The Irish Times
just fancy that.
Make sure the tail is identifiable in the “crash scene”
It’s always good to repeat the story to make sure the narrative is rammed home…here again in 2020
The flight had been delayed by more than 20 minutes on that fateful Sunday from its scheduled take-off of 3.45pm, due to a readjustment of its load.
Among the crew, who had been on standby, were 51-year-old Captain Stanley Key, 24-year-old Second Officer (SO) Simon Ticehurst and 22-year-old SO Jeremy Keighley.
Teenager Trevor Burke, who was walking along a nearby footpath, would witness the crash opposite the King George VI Reservoir.
The then 13-year-old ran a quarter-of-a-mile to alert Frances Castledine, a former nursing sister at Ashford Hospital, who was one of the first people on the scene.
not a lot going on a the firefighters’ drill
Verdict – abject hoax.
PS – comment below one of the videos
9 months ago
I was 16yrs.old when this happened, after our normal days work my father and other work mates worked 5-6 hrs. to help out at the funeral directors, we had to take the bodies to different floors as they came in from the crash site, not everyone could cope with it. We was only needed for 5 days, as normal staff numbers would not have been able to cope with the 115 dead.
suuuuureMay 26, 2021 at 1:53 pm #1992356VespadouglasParticipant
WOW flx. thanks for that
VD XXXIIIMay 26, 2021 at 1:59 pm #1992357VespadouglasParticipant
Quick scan, will absorb at W/E but golf man is great. ta
VD XXXIIIMay 26, 2021 at 5:27 pm #1992362
Yes, it’s a good ‘un. The worst UK air “crash” [excluding the Lockerbie staged event]
There is no evidence that there were brothers Paul  and Trevor  Burke in the area in 1972, or indeed anywhere. Key witness Trevor has never shown up in the media since.
The following video shows an “expert” explaining how the plane managed not to knock out high voltage power lines almost above the crash site – reason being, it just pancaked into a tiny area [lol!] in a Shanksville style descent but with more wreckage present.
Allegedly the plane stalled… suuuure it did [not that it had ever been in the air]
A pathologist, safe pair of hands as ever in these hoaxes, produced an additional narrative, viz. the experienced if somewhat irascible and volatile pilot “could have” suffered a heart attack shortly before the take-off. No doubt caused by that alleged blow-up between him and a striking pilot in an industrial dispute. [from 7:50 here]
Lesson learned from this “crash” – cockpit voice recorders will become “mandatory” after this event in which there was no cvr present.August 9, 2021 at 2:12 pm #1993812
Perhaps the origin of the “wrong engine shutdown” crash psy-ops
Fate is the Hunter, 1964 [film]
Great plot – coffee spilled over the controls caused a radio failure and a false fire warning in the remaining working engine.
This wrong engine trope was used at Kegworth UK in 1989 [see aposts above and in the Trans Asia crash in Taiwan in 2014 which outed Jeff C.
Were the controllers really trying to wean us off flying back then?September 22, 2021 at 6:03 pm #1994813
A little gem from 2007, undiscovered until now, the death of Rally driver from Scotland, Colin McRae
…so badly damaged that they didn’t know how many “bodies” were in the helicopter.
Let’s see – same old minuscule pile of scrap metal surrounded by dense undergrowth.
Very few photos exist, in various crops and qualities.
McRae moved to Monaco [as one does] but returned to Scotland in 1995. He had a daughter Hollie Jane b 1998
Colin McRae to blame for ‘avoidable’ helicopter crash death
The death of former world rallying champion Colin McRae and three others in a helicopter crash in 2007 could have been avoided, a sheriff at Lanark Sheriff Court ruled today.
McRae, 39, his five-year-old son Johnny, the boy’s six-year-old friend Ben Porcelli and Graeme Duncan, 37, all died when the aircraft came down near McRae’s home in Lanark on September 15 2007 as he flew home from a trip to see a friend.
One of the crash victims, Mr Duncan, filmed much of the outbound and return flights on his personal camcorder and some of the footage was recovered and included in the inquiry hearings.
Well, fancy that, how convenient, and it miraculously survived the “crash”.
Who else can support the shaky narrative? Why, one of our police force, Sgt Robert Logan who…
Logan,43, said: “I arrived with colleagues but I told them to stay back at first in case there was an explosion.
“It was quite evident there would be no survivors from the accident.
“There was a fire still in progress and I could see a leg coming out of the left hand side of the helicopter.
“There was a tanned boot on it and there was no movement on it whatsoever.”
Sgt Logan also told how he had later seen a foot sticking out of the right hand side of the chopper.
He also said a firefighter had found a pilot’s licence bearing rally champ McRae’s name in the debris.
sure thing, Sergeant. Anyone else? Call Doctor Gerard Murphy, 50
Murphy, 50, said he had been called to the scene to confirm there had been fatalities.
He said: “I saw the tail section of a helicopter in trees and the burning remains of the helicopter cockpit.
“There appeared to be the remains of the pilot and co-pilot and a small shoe was in the ash. It was still smouldering, it was still hot.”
sure thing, Doc.
Last word from the final safe pair of hands, the forensic pathologist
Forensic pathologist John Clark said that McRae, his son Johnny and Ben Porcelli had all died of head injuries, while Graeme had been killed by a chest injury.
Dr Clark concluded that all the deaths would have been “extremely rapid”.
Naturally. Can anyone believe that there was any helicopter crash here?
Footnote [from wiki] Colin [Steele Mcrae] and his 5 year old son [John Gavin] were cremated in the same casket. Really. Very, very green and sustainable.
m 1997 Alison Jane Hamilton.
Ben Telfer Porcelli b 2001
Graeme Arthur Duncan – age 36 or 37. b 1970
four years went into preparation of the inquiry, with 71 witnesses called [not all eye-witnesses, lol!] which neatly occurred in woods adjacent to McRae’s house, Jerviswood.
Amusing sections from the inquiry
Further delay was occasioned when, as a result of concern voiced that eye witness accounts given in court may have differed in important areas from statements given to Air Accident Investigation Branch (AAIB) investigators…An extensive post-accident fire consumed a large part of the aircraft structure…..The video ends approximately 1.119 km from the landing site, 55 seconds from impact….
and so it continued, you’d have needed 4 years to cook all that up, another feast for the lawyers.
Contemporary reports from the BBC, 2007
-key witness, his father
presence of Mr Duncan who lives in rural France
Mr Duncan, an agricultural engineer, had returned from France to be the best man at a friend’s wedding.
He had moved there with wife, Jennifer, to help run a farm in the Faycelles area with his parents, James and Helen, who are retired vets.
Funeral of friend Ben
Private single casket funeral for Colin and Johnny
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