May 27, 2014 at 5:13 am #9601Carole ThomasParticipant
Could the Isla Vista shooting be a commercial for the pharmaceutical industry?
Sell more anti-psychotics?
The “mentally disturbed” meme is already being circulated and Dad Peter Rodger has made many commercials, including this one for “laughter sickness”:
H/t No Agenda
Adam does an excellent analysis of the story to date (from 30 m). It’s actually fun to listen to him and John slip and slide around the boundary while never quite crossing the threshold of complete media fakery. Go figure!
Whatever reality is, it's not that.May 27, 2014 at 1:15 pm #9605wolfman9Member
77 days between March 7 (MH 370 takeoff) and May 23 (Isla Vista shooting).
182 days between November 22 (release of Hunger Games 2: Catching Fire) and May 23. May 23 just happens to be 182 days until the release of the next Hunger Games movie, Mockingjay on November 21, 2014. 1+8+2=11May 27, 2014 at 7:36 pm #9606
This just made me laugh so much I’m just gonna share the joy. No doubt many have seen it but I must post it on this thread. It’s a classic of it’s kind.
DalTampraMay 27, 2014 at 9:48 pm #9607
Then what about the girl at the start of this clip? haha
She gets in her key, scene and credibility-building points – he was there, he had friends etc
but it’s really unbelievable.
DalTampraMay 28, 2014 at 9:49 am #9609
The Hunger Games. A built-in, established, multi-media platform that now and forever, has this latest ‘global mystery play’ as a shadow cast across it.
And they’ve got two parts of the new movie just ready to roll out. Dragging out and affirming the grand mystery play by suggestion.
The three novels in the trilogy are The Hunger Games (2008), Catching Fire (2009), and Mockingjay (2010). These have either been adapted or are in the process of being adapted as installments in The Hunger Games film series, which includes the 2012 film, The Hunger Games, followed by The Hunger Games: Catching Fire (2013), The Hunger Games: Mockingjay – Part 1 (2014), and The Hunger Games: Mockingjay – Part 2 (2015).
Ok, so they’re really milking it. A four part Movie of the trilogy. Very good. What’s the odds we’ll be left hanging on something ugly between ‘Parts’?
Dark themes…running dark series…they are psyOps.
I don’t watch that shit.
Today, Australian actor, Liam Hemsworth is reported as slightly hurting his ankle. No mention of the Isla Vista connection but it’s in our heads…the play runs.
DalTampraMay 28, 2014 at 10:17 am #9610NemesisParticipant
And the Hunger Games is just a re-telling of ‘The Most Dangerous Game’ novel and the ‘Man against man’ (Conflict) archetype.
It’s been made adapted into movies quite a few times, pretty good movies too..
 The Most Dangerous Game
 Turkey Shoot
 Avenging Force
 Hard Target
 Battle RoyaleMay 28, 2014 at 1:20 pm #9611wolfman9Member
A number of news sources started to question whether ‘Hollywood’ is influencing these ‘psychos’. I saw them preview some story they were going to do about it and I was like, ‘yeah, how are people being influenced by movies like the Hunger Games?’
To my amazement (maybe I shouldn’t have been) they did not even mention the Hunger Games or any violent movies. No, they suggested that comedy movies might have influenced Elliot Rodger. That’s right, comedy.
They were saying it is how misogyny is portrayed in these comedy flicks that may be causing crazies to go off the deep end.
Yes, there is much misogynistic messages in many films comedy or not, seems to be par for the course.
Is this just a blatant distraction from discussing the merits of movies like the Hunger Games and it’s obvious connections to a culture of violence? I think so..May 29, 2014 at 3:29 pm #9626NemesisParticipant
‘BMW..my director’s talking.’ 😕May 30, 2014 at 4:37 pm #9643Carole ThomasParticipant
Let’s get to know the family. George Rodger, grandfather of Elliot
George bummed around for a while in the Merchant Navy and tried to write stories for publication but his work was rejected.
So he pulled out his trusty camera, snapped a few shots,, got in touch with the Black Star ( sounds a bit Saturnian!) – a Jewish-run photo agency, and hey presto: He was an official photographer.
Black Star was founded in 1935 by Kurt Safranski, Kurt Kornfeld, and Ernest Mayer, three German Jews fleeing the Nazi regime. When Life was launched in 1936, Black Star became an important supplier of photographs to the new magazine.
According to photo historian Marianne Fulton, Life brought Black Star 30 to 40 per cent of its business. Black Star, in turn, contributed to Life becoming the most popular magazine in America for nearly three decades, with tens of millions of readers.
In recent decades, corporate assignment photography has emerged as the largest segment of Black Star’s business. The company claims to have captured more photographic images for more annual reports than any other photo agency or service.
WHEN GERMAN PHOTO-AGENT Ernest Mayer landed in New York during the Great Depression, he never could have imagined the impact his little portfolio of candid sequential photographs would have on America.
TIME INC. PUBLISHER Henry R. Luce, dreaming of producing a “picture-story magazine”, bought the reproduction rights to the entire portfolio on the spot, kindling a partnership that gave birth to both Black Star and a magazine called LIFE.
NOW, FOR NEARLY THREE-QUARTERS of a century, Black Star has served as the primary incubator for the world’s best photojournalists. Witnesses to both the mundane and the momentous, their job is to capture a moment in time.
WE HAVE PIECED together these moments to form a decade-by-decade mosaic of human culture, crises, and experiences as seen from the other side of the camera’s lens…
here is their website:
@Tom This is reminding me of our Aberfan photographer:-)
Who is this Luce( as in Lux, Lucifer, Light?) guy? Let’s take a peek.
Luce, known to his friends as “Father Time”, was born in Tengchow, China, on April 3, 1898, the son of Elizabeth Middleton and Henry Winters Luce, who was a Presbyterian missionary.
“Father Time” of course, is another name for Saturn. now what does that remind us of? Ah yes, the Black Star agency whose logo is a five- sided star or pentagram ( classic witchcraft meme).
Interesting Chinese link there too, as Elliott’s mother is Chinese, but let’s get back to George:
Luce edited the Hotchkiss Literary Monthly. In 1920, he graduated from Yale College, where he was a member of Alpha Delta Phi and Skull and Bones.
Yawn- why does this not surprise me? But back to George Rodgers and his career as an ace photographer:
Rodger was one of many photographers to enter the concentration camp at Bergen-Belsen in 1945, the first being members of the British Army Film and Photographic Unit. His photographs of the survivors and piles of corpses were published in Life and Time magazines and were highly influential in showing the reality of the death camps. Rodger later recalled how, after spending several hours at the camp, he was appalled to realise that he had spent most of the time looking for graphically pleasing compositions of the piles of bodies lying among the trees and buildings.
So far, so disturbing. – there is more to find out about our mate Georgie Boy.
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Whatever reality is, it's not that.May 30, 2014 at 5:06 pm #9649theprice1Participant
Longer clip of the girl fluffing her lines with some other bullshit witnesses.May 30, 2014 at 9:56 pm #9657
@Tom This is reminding me of our Aberfan photographer:-)
Ah yes I see, Carole. I.C. Rappoport. The embedded TIME LIFE photographer from Aberfan- a great post from you, in that thread here:
On your Rodgers Senior post:
Interesting nod to Henry Luce ‘Father Time’.
Those lush rich pages of Time.
It is said how influencial Grandfather (of Elliot) Rodgers pictures were in portraying the ‘horror of the Death Camps’ to America in Time magazine. He took photographs at Bergen Belsen ( actually not a death camp ).
A military media man and an absolute cad, by the look of it.
Some may say it runs in the family.
DalTampraMay 31, 2014 at 9:28 pm #9680xileffilexParticipant
A palpable hoax. I leave analysis of this up-to-the-minute event to DrK at Nodisinfo. Nice background info, though, Carole. Very signiicant.August 16, 2021 at 2:15 am #1993946xileffilexParticipant
The Misogynist-terrorist theme given an airing in the very recent Plymouth UK shooting hoax, 12 August 2021
….and a ‘unique opportunity’ to reheat and update this 2018 BBC article in the wake of the Toronto Van Attack hoax ‘perpetrated’ by ‘incel’ Alek Minassian in April 2018
Plymouth shooting: Inside the dark world of ‘incels’
Elliot Rodger: How misogynist killer became ‘incel hero’
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