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  • #80926
    rgosrgos
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    Laughing cops, 10 years before Ottowa.

    Dutch hams ahead at the 1.39 mark.

    Don’t touch your nose Pinocchio.

    #86636
    rgosrgos
    Participant

    Witness: “It could easily have been a movie set.” (at the 2.47 mark)

    http://www.at5.nl/tv/straten-van-amsterdam/aflevering/16273

    #87033
    xileffilex
    Participant

    Quite a few oral and visual old favorites there from the “hoax check list” For someone stabbed and shot several times, there’s no seepage of blood.

    #87582
    rgosrgos
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    From the official verdict on Theo van Gogh’s assassination:

    Op 02 november 2004 in de Linnaeusstraat te Amsterdam opzettelijk en met voorbedachten rade [slachtoffer] van het leven heeft beroofd, immers heeft verdachte met dat opzet en na kalm beraad en rustig overleg met een pistool, merk HS, zeven kogels in de rug en rechterflank en linkerarm en nek van [slachtoffer] geschoten en met een mes de halsorganen van [slachtoffer] doorgesneden en met twee messen in de bovenbuik van [slachtoffer] gestoken, waardoor [slachtoffer] zodanige verwondingen aan de darmen en nier en lever en milt en longen en strottenhoofd en slokdarm en bloedvaten heeft opgelopen, dat hij daaraan, door bloedverlies en weefselschade, is overleden, welk misdrijf is gepleegd met een terroristisch oogmerk, te weten het oogmerk om de bevolking of een deel van de bevolking van Nederland ernstige vrees aan te jagen en de fundamentele politieke en/of constitutionele structuur van Nederland ernstig te ontwrichten.

    seven bullets in the back and right flank and left arm and neck…
    throat organs cut with a knife…
    two knives stuck in victim’s upper belly…
    victim died of blood loss and tissue damage…

    Here lies Theo.

    Looks like Theo forgot to add the blood and gore.
    It looks like Theo didn’t go to Deo.

    #87583
    rgosrgos
    Participant

    Theo in better days.

    #87832
    rgosrgos
    Participant

    [Damn, pic got pulled. Retry]

    Fingers on buzzers.

    How many corpses can seen in this picture of Theo in better days?

    #88702
    rgosrgos
    Participant

    Erratum: How many corpses can be seen in this picture of Theo in better days?

    #94757
    xileffilex
    Participant

    rgos- what about Danny Jowenko?

    background video

    The crash looks absolutely faked, yet the CF thread peters out with this cop-out from somone called pov:
    http://cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?p=2355619

    So let us give them the benefit of the doubt on this one.

    No way, in common parlance. Just another faked death wouldn’t surprise me. Strange old business, started when was 25, allegedly, leaving no non-9/11 related trace on the web, bar the post-2005 website,coinciding with the founding of the business in Germany. Methinks it’s a crock of
    Shito

    #94962
    rgosrgos
    Participant

    Ah, Danny Jowenko. Yes, the car accident is probably faked. Though I doubt whether he was an agent/op like van Gogh was. The interview seems quite sincere (if we can use such a dangerous term at all in this context) and during the interview you see him come to the realization that the whole 9/11 thing might have been a fraud. He then also seems to realize that he is not in the position to say anything explicit about dodgy dealings of his Controlled Demolition confreres in America: that would undermine the business.

    After this interview he was contacted a lot by 9/11 researchers, both mainstream and alternative. He probably got fed up with it, then contacted or got contacted by authorities, and it was decided to start-up the DCP program because the info was too sensitive. You can still find Danny on Bavaria Radler Island, no doubt. The Dutch colony there is getting quite crowded, I hear.

    #94965
    rgosrgos
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    Which reminds me of the long train of dead bankers we’ve had. I say DCP, or rather DBP, as well.

    Here’s one of them. When you look past the drama, it is just a guy running off with the dough by faking his own death and paying authorities to play their part.

    http://www.nu.nl/binnenland/3745340/nog-geen-duidelijkheid-doodsoorzaak-oud-bankier-laren.html

    http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/22482425/___Zorg_voor_mijn_oudste_dochter___.html

    #94968
    rgosrgos
    Participant

    How many corpses can be seen in this picture of Theo in better days?

    None is the correct answer.

    #95223
    Tom DalpraTom Dalpra
    Participant

    Methinks it’s a crock of

    GF

    🙂

    After this interview he was contacted a lot by 9/11 researchers, both mainstream and alternative. He probably got fed up with it, then contacted or got contacted by authorities, and it was decided to start-up the DCP program because the info was too sensitive.

    That makes some sense to me.

    However, isn’t the purpose of his death primarily fuel to the idea that you can be killed for talking about this stuff?

    Wasn’t Jowenko in Loose Change? He was around early on in alternative 9/11 circles. His story was surely ‘scripted’ whether he knew it or not?

    DalTampra

    #95540
    rgosrgos
    Participant

    However, isn’t the purpose of his death primarily fuel to the idea that you can be killed for talking about this stuff?

    Absolutely.

    Wasn’t Jowenko in Loose Change? He was around early on in alternative 9/11 circles. His story was surely ‘scripted’ whether he knew it or not?

    Yes, Jowenko Shito, Jowanko, etc.

    Still, I maintain this interview is genuine (let’s use that dangerous word, then) and that both the interviewer and Jowenko are trying to figure out what happened.

    He’s no more sincere or insincere than we were trying to figure out what happened and going through the rabbit holes at an early stage – the interview was from 2005, if I remember correctly. The term psyop is not on his radar. Frankly, I think he lacks the intelligence.

    Surely, he’s familiar with the dodgy dealings in the controlled demo business but it’s only during the course of the interview that he realizes something’s amiss, vicariously touching his nose a lot, and then slips back into trying to make sense of the official story.

    It’s partly a language thing, having to do with tone and timbre, and the translation is not the best and badly synchronized.

    Jowenko is a good example of someone becoming a player after the fact, whereas van Gogh, well, he was a player all the way.

    #95600
    xileffilex
    Participant

    He was in Loose Change 3, Tom. Certainly his business was active before 9/11; [he would only have been just 24 in 1980]
    http://web.archive.org/web/20010714213023/http://www.jowenko.nl/demolition.html
    and links.
    eg

    Besides the above named works, W.C.D. Jowenko Explosieve Demolitie started making rubbermats itself after taking over the productionline from the Rubber Recycling Utrecht B.V. in january 1993. The rubber mats are made of the treads of truck tyres and are put to innumerable uses, such as: Protection against fragments of shot as the result of explosions. This is the main application of the rubber mats, which are then referred to as blasting mats.

    His full name is Wassilie Christiaan Daniel Jowenko

    A faked death will have dual purpose – escape to Fantasy Island, and an implicit warning to others as a “suspicious death”

    How handy – his explosives licence just happens to be lying around the web
    http://www.jowenko.com/downloads/erkenning/Erkenning%20Danny%20Jowenko.pdf

    http://www.jowenko.com/downloads/erkenning/Erkenning%20Jowenko%20Explosieve%20Demolitite%20BV.pdf
    as indeed is that of his wife Ingrid Rijkse
    http://www.jowenko.com/downloads/erkenning/Erkenning%20Ingrid%20Rijkse.pdf

    What happened to quoted demolition expert Hugo Bachmann? Probably he wisely kept a low profile.
    http://911blogger.com/node/2925
    The Dutch TV show Zembla interviewed him- ludicrous top-down demolition talk to explain why the second hit fell first [hit lower down….] “you have to use the building’s own weight” [ignoring the fact that some load bearing support would have to be removed first….]

    “You clearly see that the building that was hit first was hit higher so it went down last because there was less weight to bring it down. That’s essential knowledge for anyone who knows anything about demoliton”

    A clip from this more assured performance is indeed in the final cut of Loose Change, byut it’s only fleeting at 115m 16s. The rest of the well known footage which occurs between 115m 08-58s may have been shot the same day.

    http://peoplecheck.de/handelsregister/NW-HRB_13267-764172

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    Handelsregisterveröffentlichung vom 10.02.2012 12:00:00
    Gericht Amtsgericht Aachen
    HR-Nummer HRB 13267
    Art der Eintragung Veränderungen
    Datum 06.02.2012
    Auszug Jowenko Bohr- & Sprengtechnik GmbH, Eschweiler, Dürener Straße 533, 52249 Eschweiler. Änderung zur Geschäftsanschrift: Rudolfstraße 3, 52146 Würselen. Nicht mehr Geschäftsführer: Jowenko, Wassilie Christiaan Daniel, Veere/Niederlande, *XX.XX.XXXX. Die Gesellschaft ist aufgelöst.Ist nur ein Liquidator bestellt, so vertritt er die Gesellschaft allein. Sind mehrere Liquidatoren bestellt, so wird die Gesellschaft durch zwei Liquidatoren gemeinsam vertreten. Bestellt als einzelvertretungsberechtigte Liquidatorin mit der Befugnis im Namen der Gesellschaft mit sich im eigenen Namen oder als Vertreter eines Dritten Rechtsgeschäfte abzuschließen: Rijkse, Ingrid Martha, Würselen, *XX.XX.XXXX.

    [XX etc = concealed birth dates]

    #415020
    xileffilex
    Participant

    Nothing to see here, move along please…
    htt p:/ /let srollf orum s.com//showpost.php?p=263660&postcount=10

    #415237
    rgosrgos
    Participant

    Nothing to see here, move along please…

    Hi, xilef! Glad you are back. Missed you in the thread on the latest immigration charade.

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