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Did Hannah Godfrey become Hannah Smith, after marrying Christopher Smith? https://twitter.com/hansmith/media
Does the picture bear resemblance to her mother’s picture, and to the child in the video posted earlier?
Mrs Barbara Morley, another witness of the killings – one of the bloodiest massacres in Britain – said: ‘He was just strolling along the road, shooting at anything that moved.
Mrs Morley is untraceable.
Interestingly, there appear to have been Morleys at 47, 49 and 53 Fairview Road; three within four consecutive properties, all with the same surname; well, Hungerford is very near to the border of Wiltshire, the southwest, I suppose……..
In Priory Road, Joyce Anderson had just returned home after a morning shopping visit to Hungerford market when she saw the gunman walking up the road towards her house, wielding what appeared to be a rifle.
“He was about eight houses away when I saw him walking up the road. We’d already heard shots, and we saw the police and ambulances on our way home, so we knew who it was.</strong>[/QUOTE]
So, she had heard shots, yet, rather than seeking refuge in shops/buildings in the town, where she was, she walked home, in the direction of the shots; continuing even when seeing police and ambulances?
As you do….!
Did Hannah Godfrey go on to be a director/business researcher at this company https://companycheck.co.uk/company/05606621/TRADITIONAL-TAVERNS-LIMITED/companies-house-data? Also listed here: https://companycheck.co.uk/company/05606621/TRADITIONAL-TAVERNS-LIMITED/companies-house-data.
Right name, location and year and quarter of birth. The house listed as the address for the company, was offered to rent in 2013: https://www.zoopla.co.uk/property/15-seward-rise/romsey/so51-8pe/22359579.
Is there any chance she married Christopher Smith, her former business partner? http://www.companydirectorcheck.com/christopher-anthony-smith-2
The contemporary Guardian article names the then caretaker of John of Gaunt school as one John Miles. This can’t be the same John Miles who founded the Hungerford Theatre company, can it?
Maybe that’s where they got the actors from…….
Leslie Bean is also someone I’ve failed to find a trace of, online. Since the event, the name ‘Mr Bean’ now has comedic connotations; but perhaps both are, in reality, comedy actors/characters!
More contemporary video clips
http://www.gettyimages.co.nz/detail/video/hungerford-shootings-victims-england-wiltshire-swindon-news-footage/685235568
This covers again Marjorie Jackson’s speech from her sick bed, “I see his mother gunned down outside the house, there was bodies everywhere” [looking unconvincing]
Dave Smith [ambulanceman who would be wheeled out again in 1996] Margaret Thatcher thanking the doctors and paramedics for participating in the event, and a military helicopter landing with the serving military son of a couple separated by death – his mother survived, seriously injured, we are told. [Who would that be?[/QUOTE]The ‘unnamed character’ emerging from the helicopter could only be one of the Wainwright siblings, as the Wainwright spouses are the only ones who supposedly both got shot, following which there was any significant period during which one of whom was alive, and the other, dead, barring the Mr and Mrs Gibbs (with Mrs Gibbs supposedly succumbing finally to her injuries, the day after she was shot); and they didn’t have any children.
There also seems to be precious little information for Jenny Barnard, post the massacre………..
More contemporary video clips
http://www.gettyimages.co.nz/detail/video/hungerford-shootings-victims-england-wiltshire-swindon-news-footage/685235568
This covers again Marjorie Jackson’s speech from her sick bed, “I see his mother gunned down outside the house, there was bodies everywhere” [looking unconvincing]
Dave Smith [ambulanceman who would be wheeled out again in 1996] Margaret Thatcher thanking the doctors and paramedics for participating in the event, and a military helicopter landing with the serving military son of a couple separated by death – his mother survived, seriously injured, we are told. [Who would that be?]
PM Thatcher: “There weren’t any words in the English language that could adequately describe what’s happened…it’s an evil crime.”
Perhaps the word ‘hoax’?A contemporary report from The Guardian provides further witnesses
https://www.theguardian.com/fromthearchive/story/0,12269,1286273,00.htmlhttp://www.gettyimages.co.nz/detail/video/day-after-england-berkshire-hungerford-av-clock-on-top-of-news-footage/685241456
Shots of a bullet hole, and smiling, grinning Alan Lepitie again
“…he shot at him, you see, shot him in the arm,[Alan] , he rolled over on the ground, next minute bullets are in the window, at me, up that bedroom window up there, so my wife and me dived on the floor…”Two clearly very shocked, traumatised interviewees there. To be fair, they had had……one DAY to collect their thoughts, and get themselves together and composed for the interviews. I mean, it’s not like 16 people were actually KILLED, was it?!
Mrs Jackson seems remarkably devoid of emotion, and as for the caretaker, I am assuming he didn’t like Alan Lepetit very much, as it seems as though it’s all he can do not to LAUGH……….
aged 4
however we get another detail for the narrative…
Mrs Godfrey, 35, from the village of Burghfield Common, near Reading, was on her way to visit her grandmother, Nellie.
The picnic would provide Hannah, four, and James, two, with a break from the journey.[location of “Nellie” not providied]
retold here
http://www.crimeandinvestigation.co.uk/crime-files/michael-ryan-and-the-hungerford-massacre/crimes
And Myra’s excuse for being there?
http://murderpedia.org/male.R/r/ryan-michael-robert-part2.htmshe was staying with friends in nearby Marlborough. The woodland setting was so soothing that she decided to sit down and read for a while…
sure it was.
She was certainly living in Knyveton Road until 2005 in Bournemouth, however no satisfactory death is recorded until 2014, when she would have been at least 101.
http://www.192.com/atoz/people/rose/myra/bh1/1501654372/
She was later in the Crescent Nursing Home, also in Bournemouth.Ah, yes, like many 75-year-old women, she just decided to squat down in the forest, and read a book; perhaps she even brought a beanbag, specially!
She certainly had a good innings, if she lived to be at least 101; must be all that sitting down and reading in the forest; what a health message to us all!
Reading Hannah Godfrey’s dialect at such a tender age, she must be by now a literary genius; I’m surprised we haven’t heard more about her…….
Colin Mason, who apparently identified his parents, Roland and Sheila, appears to still live in Hungerford: http://www.192.com/atoz/people/mason/colin/rg17/814321305/.
Robert ‘Bob’ Barclay, who was said to have heroically dragged John Storms out of his van and the line of fire, and into the safety of his house, appears also to still live locally: http://www.192.com/atoz/people/barclay/robert/rg17/3314041352/.
One person who there seems little information about, and who there appear to be no photos of, is Francis Butler, barring the information on his widow.
Brian Godfrey, the widower of Sue, appears to have lived, with his two children, James and Hannah, in Romsey, Hampshire: http://www.192.com/atoz/people/godfrey/hannah/so51/591102005/.
He married Judith in 1989, and the two of them now live in Bridport, Dorset: http://www.192.com/atoz/people/godfrey/judith/dt6/765464621/.
His hobbies now include beekeeping: https://www.pressreader.com/uk/scottish-daily-mail/20121030/282789238695425. His picture in that page does look like an older version of the man in the video posted a few posts ago, exiting the church with the children.
Great post, again; they make for very interesting reading. Are there any more people to cover?
I made it to Hungerford, yesterday, for the anniversary. Anyone who’d made the trip in the hope of finding a town explicitly in mourning and remembrance, would have been disappointed. I was in the town for seven hours, and the only sign was specific to the memorial at the gates of the memorial gardens by the park (where Francis Butler allegedly got shot, and around where Marcus Barnard allegedly got shot in his taxi), where there were four bouquets of flowers laid out.
I encountered no journalists, although, walking along Southview, I noticed that quite a few houses had closed curtain, including the home of Sylvia Pascoe; perhaps in anticipation of them.
There was apparently a service at St Lawrence’s Church, in the town, although there was nothing alluding to this in or around the church, and no one there when I went there; I later read It was a ‘private ceremony’.
Even more interesting findings there. Do you have anything else? I am travelling to Hungerford tomorrow, on what is meant to be a sunny day as was that day in 1987, and will see what ‘memorials’ are taking place, and how great the media presence is. I will try to get photos of anything of interest.
Another new BBC article: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-sh/hungerford_massacre
Interesting findings, once more. Have you located any more footage/pictures, of the ‘victims’ or their families?
Given what can be found about these people via birth, marriage and death records, and suchlike, to look at it in an open-ended aspect: where do we suppose that ‘the real’ elements/information about these people end, and the fake elements begin?
The information on Alan/Ian Playle is very thought-provoking.
Nearly the 30th anniversary of the “massacre” and we need to keep the official narrative on the public’s mind. Along comes the ever helpful http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08b7ttm
They don’t like to call it a massacre, tellingly, rather a tragedy.
I am brought back to the curious story of Ian Playle
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/crimes-shook-britain-hungerford-massacre-823698
With police using loudhailers to warn residents to stay indoors, Ian Playle encountered a police roadblock, but he knew another way to his home in Priory Road.
Hungerford Massacre – 1987: A police marksman examining a spent cartridge on the road in Hungerford after gunman Michael Ryan went on the rampage
Ammo: A police marksman examines a spent cartridge on the road in Hungerford (Photo: PA)
When he got there, he died in a hail of shots.As noted, his real name was Alan Francis Playle. What is astonishing is that he is listed on 192.com as living in Braintree, Essex, along with his mother, at 227 Notley Road, some 15 years after the massacre! [and for which no sale has been recorded in the past 20 years] Subsequently, both of them disappear from online records. Before the “massacre”, the father of Alan/Ian, Eric Henry Playle, [who died in 1982] was living at 31 Jeffreys Road in nearby Cressing, Essex.
Alan/Ian and his wife Elizabeth [who was born in Salisbury district but married in Braintree Essex] had two children, and had moved to Hungerford some time after 1981 but before 1986.
Also in 2002, the wife of Alan/Ian died on July 5 aged 50!
https://www.thegazette.co.uk/notice/L-56650-816
Probate was quickly granted on October 18 2002, the day before the any claim on the estate expired.Elizabeth and the their two children subsequently lived in an agreeable and large detached house at 24 Belmore Road, which was sold on….
July 30 1987 just three weeks before the “massacre”!The next sale was only on October 21 2011, by which time the property had increased in value by over a quarter of a million pounds.
Both the son and daughter of Ian/Alan and Elizabeth have also left little trace, bar this myspace image and page
https://myspace.com/204268108/mixes/profilemix-52679/photo/2865734Nearly the 30th anniversary of the “massacre” and we need to keep the official narrative on the public’s mind. Along comes the ever helpful BBC
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08b7ttmThey don’t like to call it a massacre, tellingly, rather a tragedy.
I am brought back to the curious story of Ian Playle
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/crimes-shook-britain-hungerford-massacre-823698
With police using loudhailers to warn residents to stay indoors, Ian Playle encountered a police roadblock, but he knew another way to his home in Priory Road.
Hungerford Massacre – 1987: A police marksman examining a spent cartridge on the road in Hungerford after gunman Michael Ryan went on the rampage
Ammo: A police marksman examines a spent cartridge on the road in Hungerford (Photo: PA)
When he got there, he died in a hail of shots.As noted, his real name was Alan Francis Playle. What is astonishing is that he is listed on 192.com as living in Braintree, Essex, along with his mother, at 227 Notley Road, some 15 years after the massacre! [and for which no sale has been recorded in the past 20 years] Subsequently, both of them disappear from online records. Before the “massacre”, the father of Alan/Ian, Eric Henry Playle, [who died in 1982] was living at 31 Jeffreys Road in nearby Cressing, Essex.
Alan/Ian and his wife Elizabeth [who was born in Salisbury district but married in Braintree Essex] had two children, and had moved to Hungerford some time after 1981 but before 1986.
Also in 2002, the wife of Alan/Ian died on July 5 aged 50!
https://www.thegazette.co.uk/notice/L-56650-816
Probate was quickly granted on October 18 2002, the day before the any claim on the estate expired.Elizabeth and the their two children subsequently lived in an agreeable and large detached house at 24 Belmore Road, which was sold on….
July 30 1987 just three weeks before the “massacre”!The next sale was only on October 21 2011, by which time the property had increased in value by over a quarter of a million pounds.
Both the son and daughter of Ian/Alan and Elizabeth have also left little trace, bar this myspace image and page
https://myspace.com/204268108/mixes/profilemix-BBC
52679/photo/2865734Hello. I am new to the site, having found my way here via a Google search on the topic, in the lead up to the 30th anniversary of the ‘massacre’. I had always found the reports of the ‘event’ rather dubious, and have a reignited interest in the case, with the anniversary dawning, and articles in the media predictably surfacing:
I am very impressed with the level of research you’ve done into many of the supposed victims, and had done similar myself, albeit not on quite the same level as you’ve managed to. I had located information regarding the death in 2002 of Elizabeth Playle, but not any further into the persons to whom successive probates were granted.
Regarding the curious case of Ian/Alan Playle, given the inconsistencies you’ve highlighted, what would you say can be concluded, about the whole ‘massacre’? What is the reality, would you say, about Ian/Alan Playle?
I am planning to travel to Hungerford on the 30th anniversary on Saturday, to gauge the atmosphere.
If anyone else is interested in the ‘events’, in the close lead-up to the anniversary, feel free to reply to the thread.
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