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When studying authors and popularized literature on diet and food, there are certain lifestyle choices that appear particularly gender-specific. By analyzing the top 100 vegan books it shows 70% of the authors are female, 25% of the authors are male and roughly 5% are written on the account of tv-shows, fitness clubs and/or group movements. Some authors have several books that are in the top 100 Amazon book list – the total number of female best-selling Amazon authors of vegan books and guides amount to 51 individuals.
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Veganism is indeed a topic that illustrate how the Elite influence popular culture by their extensive use of experts, authors and role-models. The reason for the vegan movement to be more feminized than other fields of of diet and nutrition is caused by the psychological profile that would be susceptible to accept the doctrine – empathic and emotional decision makers who are mostly women or feminine men. The emotional nature of the target audience would also affect the family structure as a whole (children, spouses) through a focus on food preparation and well-being often illustrated with various examples of responsible “mothers” (or household caretakers) to help sell the general rhetoric.
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Whenever we have public role-models at play we must realize they are of particular interest to the Elite who are fewer in number than the commoners they rule over. As in other fields of culture we must therefore expect the Elite to have the ambition of controlling the leading figures of veganism. The analysis so far do show that the majority of female authors can be both suspect of serving an Elite agenda and to be EGI themselves (MTF).
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On the subject of veganism i would recommend listening to the two latest Hoaxbuster Calls* with Chris Kendall where he does a great job of outlining the impossible mission of avoiding animal death in farming and the double standards found in the commonly argued reasons for consuming exclusively plant based products.
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Female Authors** in Amazon Top 100 Vegan books ( list here )
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#02 Michelle Davis (by Thug Kitchen) – Eat Like You Give a F*ck
#05 Angela Liddon – The Oh She Glows Cookbook
#06 Jessica Ashley – Instant Pot Cookbook
#10 Kathy Hester – The Ultimate Vegan Cookbook for Your Instant Pot
#11 Dana Shultz – Minimalist Baker’s Everyday Cooking
#14 Julie Morris – Superfood Soups
#15 Alona Pulde M.D. – The Forks Over Knives Plan
#17 Farnoosh Brock – The Healthy Smoothie Bible
#19 Emma Katie – Air Fryer Cookbook
#20 Micaela Cook KARLSEN – A Plant-Based Life
#21 Richa Hingle – Vegan Richa’s Indian Kitchen
#22 Ann Crile Esselstyn – The Prevent and Reverse Heart Disease Cookbook
#24 Jen Hansard – Simple Green Smoothies
#26 Kathy Patalsky – 365 Vegan Smoothies
#30 Jeanine Donofrio – The Love and Lemons Cookbook
#31 Amanda Chantal Bacon – The Moon Juice Cookbook
#33 Isa Chandra Moskowitz – Isa Does It
#34 Kristy Turner – But I Could Never Go Vegan
#35 Ashley Summer – Vegan For Life
#36 Miyoko Schinner – The Homemade Vegan Pantry
#40 Candice Kumai – Clean Green Eats
#42 Nicole Cormier – The $5 a Meal College Vegetarian Cookbook
#43 Melissa King – DIY Nut Milks, Nut Butters, and More
#44 Jill Nussinow – Vegan Under Pressure
#46 LeAnne Campbell – The China Study Cookbook
#48 Linda Larsen – The Complete Slow Cooking for Two
#58 Erin Gleeson – Forest Feast Gatherings
#59 Deborah Madison – Vegetable Soups from Deborah Madison’s Kitchen
#60 Carla Snyder – One Pan, Two Plates
#63 Kim Campbell – The PlantPure Kitchen
#65 Kristina Carrillo-Buckram – The Fully Raw Diet
#66 Tess Masters – The Perfect Blend
#67 Myra Goodman – Straight from the Earth
#69 Sarah Britton – Naturally Nourished
#70 Kate O’Donnell – The Everyday Ayurveda Cookbook
#73 Amie Vulpine – Eating Clean
#74 Robin Robertson – Fresh from the Vegan Slow Cooker
#75 Chloe Coscarelli – Chloe’s Kitchen
#78 Ashley Melilla – Blissful Basil
#79 Alessandra Mercado – Instant Pot Vegan Cookbook
#80 Sierra Goldman – Clean Eating Clean Living
#81 Amy Kimono-Kahn – Simply Ramen
#83 Jenny Engel – Vegan 101
#84 Sarah Stewart – Instant Pot Cookbook
#85 Alicia C. Simpson – Quick and Easy Vegan Comfort Food
#87 Anna Jones – A Modern Way to Cook
#88 Kimberly Parsons – The Yoga Kitchen
#89 Dreena Burton – Plant-Powered Families
#91 Amy Chaplin – At Home in the Whole Food Kitchen
#94 Dr. Jamie Kaufman – Dr. Koufman’s Acid Reflux Diet
#99 Gina Homolka – The Skinnytaste Cookbook
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*Hoaxbuster’s Call 485 – Animal, Vegetable, Mineral, Cannibal
http://recordings.talkshoe.com/TC-90337/TS-1146253.mp3
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*Hoaxbuster’s Call 484 – Field Mice are People Too
http://recordings.talkshoe.com/TC-90337/TS-1144237.mp3
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*Hoaxbuster blog article – There Are No Vegans
http://hoaxbusterscall.blogspot.com
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**Photographic material on the authors is sometimes scarce but EGI can be suspected in 50% of the cases (or more)

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Food is a very gender-related topic with hormones often present that are neither much spoken about nor warned against. If we ask ourselves who might be interested in such matters related to food the answer seem quite mundane – EGI individuals. What better than an Elite group of experts to show the way and separate the wheat from their staff ?
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With state politics and dietitians being based on a very funny looking pyramid, most concerned commoners will undoubtably seek further advice and literature on what they really should eat. This seems like a good idea – but food is also an area where we are ill suited to an advised opinion as nutrition very quickly get very scientific. Diet and nutritional literature are full of pair-reviewed studies and surveys that often are quite contradictory or overly specific as to actually help our general understanding and/or well-being. It seems nutrition is a chaos – a situation many encourage and exploit.
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It is troubling that there are so many obvious examples of EGI in the dietary and health fields, especially as they are much followed and seldom researched and scrutinized. A selection of world renowned experts and authors on nutrition hereunder, the top of an iceberg – or the top of ‘crystalized paleo-tempered water‘ as many nutritionists would argue… certified organic MTF’s
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Melissa Hartwig – Food Freedom Forever
Certified Sports Nutritionist and Author of three books and the co-creator of the Whole30. She specializes in helping people change their relationship with food and create life-long, healthy habits.
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Keren Gilbert – The HD Diet
NYC Registered dietitian and nutritionist and founder of consultant firm Decision Nutrition. She is an accredited member of the American Dietetic Association, Greater New York Dietetic Association, Nutrition Entrepreneurs, Dietitians in Business, The Diabetes Care, Education Dietetic Practice Group and SCAN.
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Rory Freedman – Skinny Bitch
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Kim Barnouin – Skinny Bitch
Former modelling agent Rory Freedman and Former model Kim Barnouin together advocating a purely vegan diet in their book. Kim hold a degree from Clayton College of Natural Health (unaccredited establishment).
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Bee Wilson – This Is Not A Diet Book
With a Ph.D. from Trinity College (Cambridge) Bee is an author, food journalist and historian. Food columnist for the New Statesman for five years, she currently writes for Sunday Telegraph’s Stella magazine.
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Kayla Itsines – The Bikini Body 28-Day Healthy Eating & Lifestyle Guide
Educated as a fitness trainer from Australian Institute of Fitness (2008). Started her career working in a women’s only personal training centre and later started The Bikini Body Training Company with her fiance Tobi Pearce after breakthrough on social sites Facebook and Instagram.
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Kris Carr – Crazy Sexy Diet
Best-selling author (Amazon & NYT), wellness activist and cancer survivor. Documented her battle against a rare type of cancer (epithelioid hemangioendothelioma) in her own documentary film ‘Crazy Sexy Cancer’.
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Pearl Barrett and Serene C. Allison – Trim Healthy Mama Cookbook
Formerly songwriters, recording artists and speakers the sisters are self-published with their own publishing company Welby Street Press. They have had success with their book ‘Trim Healthy Mama’ (+100.000 copies sold) through social media. Both sisters are married and have 14 children between them and sympathize with wives and mothers who want their youthful figures back all while cooking for their husbands and children.

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Willard wrote:

@unreal, thank you for taking the time to explore this intriguing subject. I have only just begun to study your material; nevertheless, I am already understanding what you are driving.

Glad to hear you follow the research and find it interesting, much appreciated.
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Agree here are many things that seem off when it comes to celebrities and culture creation and the trial case you mention remind me how often judiciary procedures are contrived to drive social engineering agendas. No doubt that Zimmerman is merely a stand-in actor and replaceable. The image comparisons of Charles Manson come to mind where we can see how the face has dramatically changed together with “permanent” features such as his foreheads Nazi-cross
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Regarding Zimmermann, i have not looked closely at his case but judging from some of the imagery i’ve seen he must be considered a suspect also for Female-to Male transgenderization. In fact, his facial features (eyes, nose and mouth) are very small in relation to his overall facial size and there are signs of a very female looking skull and facial expressions.
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Susan Sarandon is of a particular Hollywood make where she has the advantage of natural looking bust but very male looking face and neck despite suspected reshaped jawline, chin and bow-ridge. There are other suspects that share some of her body traits in Bo Derek, Jessica Lange, Halle Berry or Elle McPherson. It must be suspected that the Elite use both HRT and body-fat injection to obtain the features they aim for, not only silicone as they make us believe. A contemporary example would be Emily Ratajkowski.
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Regarding Victoria Secret models there is a good video on that subject that you might have watched:
MrE3000 Victoria’s Secret – Illuminati Tranny Exposed! – 12:13 mm:ss
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v86wzgDoglA
•Unfortunately a lot of foul language and new-age illuminaty references – imagery speak for itself nevertheless – some comparison between Victoria Secret models and openly transgender beauty-contests at the end of video
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George Zimmerman mugshot
•facial features are very small and feminine – close shallow eyes, short nose, small mouth, typical FTM beard, shadow to disguise lack of Adam’s apple
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George Zimmerman smiling in court – duper’s delight ?
•very feminine expression and feel despite start of balding the hairline look female over the temples – HRT seem to have set in and as usual hairloss and beard follows – no brow ridge what-so-ever – short teeth – short neck – no male jawbone

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rgos wrote:

Judging from the lyrics of Candle in the Wind, and if our eyes don’t deceive us, these two are probably packing as well.

Indeed, the title and lyrics of “Candle in the Wind” do seriously hint at Norma Jean (Marilyn Monroe) being an “intact” MTF individual. Much like how the figurative “cigar” hints at the male phallus, so do the candle. The song is also interesting in as much as it was rewritten in 1997 for Lady Diana’s funeral. For this occasion the title became “Goodbye England’s Rose”.
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It is quite fitting that the song which seem so specific to Marilyn could so easily match Diana – this could only mean that also Lady Di also had a candle in the wind. In her case the candle became a rose, maybe less a blatant mockery than the candle*
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It was Bernard Taupin who wrote the lyrics to the song, and he added the following:

I think the biggest misconception about ‘Candle In The Wind’ is that I was this rabid Marilyn Monroe fanatic, which really couldn’t be further from the truth. It’s not that I didn’t have a respect for her. It’s just that the song could just as easily have been about James Dean or Jim Morrison, Kurt Cobain. I mean, it could have been about Sylvia Plath or Virginia Woolf. I mean, basically, anybody, any writer, actor, actress, or musician who died young and sort of became this iconic picture of Dorian Gray, that thing where they simply stopped aging. It’s a beauty frozen in time.
– songfacts “Candle in the Wind by Elton John”

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We must presume that both Elton John and Bernie Taupin are “in the club” and most probably EGI themselves. As their song has a direct connection to EGI entities, we must also suspect that the references to write the song most likely are EGI as well. In addition to Taupin’s references, Elton john dedicated the song to Ryan White at Farm Aid 4 in 1990. Ryan White was on of the first high-profile AIDS patients who got the disease from a blood transfusion as a teenager (died at 18).
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If we resume the list of suspect characters from Elton John and Taupin’s song we have the following list: Janis Joplin, James Dean, Jim Morrison, Kurt Cobain, Sylvia Plath, Virginia Woolf, Dorian Gray and Ryan White (in addition to the obvious cases of Monroe and Diana Spencer)
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Many of these characters have already been in the spotlight on Youtube and subjected to diverse transvestigations. However Ryan White seem to have less attention from an EGI perspective. His case it must be considered as suspect as much as the others from the list as he was an Aids poster-boy with haemophilia (gender specific illness) died young, has a foundation and was in the company of stars and presidents. Ryan White could have been EGI himself and possibly have been subjected to the DCP program. Ryan White’s case might just hint at a possible connection between the DCP and EGI.
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Ryan White and his mother Jeanne Ginder-White
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Ryan-white and his date/gf Heather Stephenson at the school prom
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Ryan White, Marlee Matlin and Charlie Sheen at 1988 “For Love Of Children AIDS Benefit Gala”
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Ryan White’s mother Jeanne Ginder-White and ex-date Heather Stephenson today
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*if the candle was switched for a rose – it could be the rose also is used as a phallic symbol by the Elite on occasion

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Sigmund Freud — “Smoking is indispensable if one has nothing to kiss.”
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The EGI subject has been “upgraded” to a standalone subdomain on Fakeologist :
http://egi.fakeologist.com
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I just posted on the EGI investigation section on the use of cigars:
http://egi.fakeologist.com/2017/01/15/have-a-cigar
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The fact that the Elite do practice gender inversion in a systematic way is a hard pill to swallow for most researchers. In addition to imagery and direct anatomical comparisons there are also more subtle ways in which we might detect the hidden sides of EGI.
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The Elite often communicate in symbols and they mostly put them before our eyes. Things are not always what they are presented to be. The cigar is one of the symbols the Elite like to play with as it represents figuratively the male phallus. Not much imagination needed. The Elite seem to find a definite duping delight in putting evidence directly before our eyes and observe we make nothing of it.
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Freud was one of the first to be very adamant on smoking cigars and by his importance in the last century it should be expected he not was aware of EGI but himself came from an EGI family. If Freud is a FTM that play with the public and fellow EGI by speaking of his love for “cigars” this is quite significant, but also quite common for elite members. Some might want to believe in coincidence, but my opinion is that these Elite members that proud themselves with loving cigars are actually expressing how they sexually have a lust for males.
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What does displaying a cigar actually mean ? Do they have a cigar themselves or or is it their sexual desire they express. It could mean different things for different individuals of course – but i my view the origine would have been reverso men expressing they had an inverted sexuality. These days i guess cigars could also well be an expression of homosexuality, but i still see the cigar as not relating to the individual itself and more as representative of an individuals taste, desires and practices.
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Bill Clinton “If you must smoke cigars, get an actual humidor” rule #6 in his ‘Tips For a Happy, Healthy Marriage’ on David Letterman Show
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Mark Twain — “I smoke in moderation. Only one cigar at a time.”
•Very symbolic here with pussycat on his knee’s and a cigar in his mouth. Not sure if there could be anything to add here…
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General George S Patton – is he a racket himself ?
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Roger Moore – hates handguns but loves cigars
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Daniel Craig – hates handguns but loves cigars – shaken not sucked ?
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Aldous Huxley — “You should hurry up and acquire the cigar habit. It’s one of the major happinesses. And so much more lasting than love, so much less costly in emotional wear and tear.”
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Wayne Gretzky – “I wasn’t naturally gifted in terms of size and speed; everything I did in hockey I worked for”
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Vince Vaughn – cigar lover
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Robert Downey Junior – probably no iron balls
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Paul Walker – probably still can smoke a cigar
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Groucho Marx — “Given the choice between a woman and a cigar, I will always choose the cigar.”
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Don King – the mother of the T-son ?
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Alfred Hitchcock – another short round man with small facial features
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Winston Churchill — “Smoking Cigars is like falling in love. First, you are attracted by its shape; you stay for its flavor, and you must always remember never, never to let the flame go out!”
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Ernesto “Che” Guevara — “A smoke in times of rest is a great companion to the solitary soldier.”

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The medical field is heavily implicated in the gender dysphoria we are witnessing today and most probably even in earlier times in the case of Elite Gender Inversion. Researching the medical field it very soon become apparent that there is a lot of propaganda and false information produced as can be verified with vaccination, cancer research and illnesses like AIDS.
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There is also a strong link between celebrities and the medical field as they seem to often collude in favour of mis-information and indirectly promote each-other. In another thread on the forum it can be shown how famous individuals might be suspect of merely acting ill in favour of specific illnesses or health campaigns ( MCP – Medical Celebrity Program ).
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If we think of how the Elite might want to dissimulate their natural gender, we must naturally think of what techniques they use in order to convince the public of their contrived gender specificity. In earlier posts and referenced videos it is well explained how plastic surgery, hormones, make-up and clothes are obvious areas that are used to the purpose of concealing and successfully impersonating the opposite sex. However, the Elite seem very attached to their EGI trade-secrets, and with the close connection that exist between the medical field and public figures, it would be convenient to include medical conditions as an additional method to affirm or re-affirm anyones gender. Who could suspect Sheryl Crow to be a man if she’s had breast-cancer ? Who would think Lance Armstrong possibly was born a female if he had testicular cancer ?
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Gender specific illnesses are not that plentiful but we hear a lot about them in MSM (Main Stream Media) nevertheless. There are many illustrious examples that act as social conditioning of the publics mind in a very effective way. Just as sexual crimes constitute another trick for social gender affirmation, illness also can play an important role and also provides additional income streams for the mighty-full medical industry.This would constitute a clear win-win scenario, and even more so if the medical industry is largely owned and administered by EGI individuals and families.
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Female gender typical diseases (possible MTF disguise)
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• Rett Syndrome ( postnatal neurological disorder of the brain  )
• Breast cancer (  cancer that develops from breast tissue )
• Cervical Cancer ( cancer of the neck of the womb )
• Ovarian Cancer ( cancer that forms in an ovary )
• Peritoneal Cancer ( close relative of ovarian cancer )
• Gestational Trophoblastic Disease GTD ( multiple tumor growth inside of uterus )
• Uterine/Endometrial Cancer ( cancer that emerges from the tissue of the uterus )
• Endometriosis ( tissue growth outside of uterus )
• Vaginal Cancer ( cancer that forms in the tissues of the vagina )
• Vulvar Cancer ( invasive growth in the outer portion of female genitals )
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Male gender typical diseases (possible FTM disguise)
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• Prostate cancer or Carcinoma ( development of cancer in the prostate )
• Testicular cancer ( cancer that develops in the testicles )
• Hemophilia ( inability to make blood clots to stop bleeding )
• Baldness or Alopecia ( loss of hair from part of the head or body )
• Duchenne Muscular Dystrophy ( severe muscular dystrophy and muscle weakness )
• Red-Green Color Blindness ( inherited inability to see red and green color hues )
• Aids ( infection with HIV virus, typically identified with homosexual or bi-sexual men )
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All the above mentioned medical conditions can be part of the social conditioning around Elite members – and especially effective if doubts arise on the account of gender or absence would be needed from the public eye for various reasons. It can be possible some illnesses would permit extensive plastic surgeries with long recovery periods or even allow for long lasting body transformations such as pregnancies.
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Susan Sarandon – diagnosed with Endometriosis at age 40
•Susan has a clear incision scar from Adams apple removal – wide shoulders, apparent clavicle bones and square manly face with wide set eyes – important breasts has mostly kept her safe from suspicion despite verifiable cases of inversion regardless of natural ‘bustyness’ i.e. Marilyn Monroe
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Susan Sarandon Speaks about her struggle with Endometriosis – 09:36 mm:ss
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IetE1BOjEYs

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•Stage 4 : Suspect cases (MTF & FTM) and advanced research and theory
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If you’re not some things that are crazy, then you’re doing the wrong things
– Larry Page

Larry page and Sergei Brin do seem to take their words to the letter – being transgendered sure make them somewhat crazy – but i’m quite sure it’s not the right thing to do regardless of Larry’s endorsement.
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If anyone stop and think about the impact internet web-searches and online video has had in our lives it would be hard to understate the importance of an organisation such as Google. Of course Google is even more, so i might under-appreciate the importance of the position Larry Page and Sergei Brin has had in the last two decades. It would be safe to say that if the Elite indeed control the media (and the “new” media) it would be surprising if Google was not under EGI control. Well, no surprise – it is.
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As shown in previous analysis of suspect FTM entities, we need to look at their entire eco-system combining friends, family and offspring. Without having done a complete check on either Larry nor Sergei it is already striking how both individuals wounded up with such male looking wives… Uncanny but convincing proof to my minds eye when we consider the position they are in and what importance they have in contemporary culture.
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Larry what ? Page as in internet-Page ? It can not be more scripted than such naming with explicit meaning for all to see and none to notice. Is the bullshit too clearly spelled out here ? Maybe, at least to me. Brin… Hmm. As Brin seem like an inverted Elite member as well, it could be that even Sergei’s name has a twist to it. Either way, both individuals present clear signs of FTM inversion of gender and are married to individuals that are likewise suspect of inversion. That makes the algorithm for a successful EGI search quite plausible regarding the two young, short-grown geniuses.

We believed we could build a better search. We had a simple idea that not all pages are created equal. Some are more important.
– Sergei Brin

Brin could be a pre-planned inverted nird …
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Sergei Brin & wife Anne Wojcicki presenting their propram
•square wide shoulders and sloping, more narrow shoulders – only they belong to the opposite gender – clearly a gender inverted couple
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Sergei Brin & wife Anne Wojcicki with VR glasses
•shoulders once again give this couple away despite very successful brow-shave on Anne – Wojcicki still have noticeable square jawline and typical re-sculpted V-chin on – despite much plastic and green paper efforts Sergei’s wife still come across as too masculine to be genuine
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Sergei Brin & wife Anne Wojcicki
•the biggest face isn’t Brin despite his ‘grin’ – closer eyes on Brin than on Wojcicki who sport square shoulders and trans-like ‘allure’
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Sergei Brin & wife Anne Wojcicki with Genentech Inc Dr. chief medical officer Hal Barron and wife
•not looking good here – the big faces and noses are in the middle of the image where the supposed “ladies” were supposed to be – the small feminine facial features on each side
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Larry Page & wife Lucinda Southworth
•Lucinda with broader shoulders than Larry despite shoulder pads – Larry with very short teeth and V shaped face and no jawline – Lucinda sport wide mouth and smiles with her big teeth and big eyes – notice how far above the eyes we find Larry’s eyebrows
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Larry Page & wife Lucinda Southworth
•nice large shoulders on Lucinda and also apparent long arms, big neck and teeth – Larry sport very short teeth as is normal in femen
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Larry Page & wife Lucinda Southworth
•same shoulder proble on this Page – both have far apart eyes – Lucinda has the bigger face features neck, mouth and nose – noticeable length difference in Larry and Lucinda’s necks, illustrative of inverted gender

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•Stage 3 : Well proven FTM (Female to Male) cases and theory
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Visualisation helps to better come to terms with how Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) and combined with physical training and fitness take effect in a female subject even at an advanced age. The hormones accentuates the effect of training and is of course considered “doping” in sport – not so in the trans-agenda. Several internet personalities and budding Youtube stars are promoting the TG program through the publication of their transformation process from being born female to changing their gender attributes as adults.
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The case of suspect FTM inverted elite members is difficult, and no doubt that many will be unable to see the very feminine qualities there would be to cultural icons such as George Carlin, Pablo Picasso, Jimmy Savile or Albert Einstein. Typical male only attributes such as beard and boldness are very powerful visually and makes it difficult to envision any gender alterations can have taken place – thus making researchers unable to perform further analysis of anatomical traits and circumstantial evidence.
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The figured video is quite basic, but i find the facial traits of rapper Rocco Catastrophe to be very telling about the type of features we can recognize in Pablo Picasso, especially regarding the eyes and forehead – typically feminine in both cases.
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Regarding most secretly inverted female elite members (FTM), they mostly have their noses widened and even “butchered” almost into “potato shapes” when we look back in time. Nose surgeries (Rhinoplasty and Alarplasty) have been practices as far back as ancient Greece, so this type of intervention constitute the basic disguise for older generations of EGI FTM entities which Picasso, Carlin and Saville probably are part of.
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10 Guys Who Were Born Female – TheTalko – 03:59 mm:ss
•Video also featured in EGI youtube playlist (UNreal Youtube channel)

H/T Vercite

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Art is a lie that makes us realize the truth.*

Hollywood is an commonplace target for sensationalism. By the scale of the lie, EGI indeed come close to being unimaginable and thus to merely exist in films and fiction – or by proxy – it’s stars.
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When considering that culture is created by the Elite, we surely would find exemples of EGI in most fields – only no-one is looking. Youtube stop at the surface of time, theory and implication. Maybe because they do not really want to see. Or maybe they don’t want the concept of Elite Gender Inversion to be systematic or even real.
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If EGI is indeed practiced by the Elite, our cultural icons would be all in the club and certainly in the know – if not themselves secretly gender inverted.
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Pablo Ruiz y Picasso ( 1881-1973 ) was a Spanish painter, sculptor, printmaker, ceramicist, stage designer, poet and playwright regarded as one of the greatest and most influential artists of the 20th century. Picasso is most know as the co-founder the Cubist movement but explored and created a wide variety of styles during his lifetime. His life and work is largely covered on a planetary basis. Pablo Picasso’s manliness has prominently figured in the public eye as he painted and sculpted his conquests, lived with his muses and mistresses, married several times and fathered several children with various partners.
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The least visually striking examples of gender inversion are EGI Female To Male inverted individuals, and to assert their (natural) gender can be more difficult than for their counterparts, the Male to Female individuals. However, we must take note of the inter-generational aspect of inverted family units to better judge how opposite gender traits are present, and to which degree. FTM males who lives in couple with children must be considered to share roof with a compatible MTF female partner. Accordingly, we can establish with better exactitude the gender inversion (or not) by the company Elite men and women keep.
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In stead of looking at Picasso himself, let us look at the company he kept – the women of his life have been much publicised and illustrated by both the press and the artist himself. We can have a hard time to be certain about one single Female to Male (FTM) inversion, but we would surely not be fooled by a whole group of inverted Elite boys impersonating women as adults ?
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1905/1912 – Fernande Olivier (1881-1966)
Picasso’s first long term relation – (s)he was married but stayed with Picasso for 7 years
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1912/1915 – Marcelle Humbert, known as Eva Gouel (1885-1915)
Picasso was devastated by her early death due to tuberculosis or cancer in 1915.
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1915/1916 – Gabrielle Depeyre also known as Gaby Lespinasse
The affair with Gaby Lespinasse was kept secret from Picasso’s close friends because of Picasso’s current fiance (Goeul) being seriously ill
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1917/1927 – Olga Khokhlova (1891-1955) – first wife, married in Paris 1918
The couple saw their son Paulo (Paul) born in 1921 (and died in 1975), and later had three grand-children – Pablito (1949-1973), Marina (born in 1951), and Bernard (1959)

Olga Khokhlova was a ballerina in the troup ‘Ballets Russes of Sergei Diaghilev’ (Paris)
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1927/1936 – Marie-Thérèse Walter (1909-1977)
Mother of Picasso’s second child, Maya (Maria de la Concepcion) on October 5, 1935
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1936/1944 – Dora Maar (1907 -1997)
met as a photographer who documented Picasso’s 1937 painting of Guernica, the
started relation a year after Picasso’s daughter Maya was born.
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1943/1953 – Françoise Gilot (born in 1921)
Had two children with the famous painter – Claude (1947) and Paloma (1949) – Gilot later married American physician-researcher Jonas Salk
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1951/1953 – Genevieve Laporte (born in 1927)
interviewed Picasso for a school newspaper as 17 in 1944. Years later in May,1951 Picasso began an affair with the then-24 year old.
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1953/1973 – Jacqueline Roque (1926 -1986) – second wife, married in 1961
met at Madoura Pottery where Picasso created his ceramics. Picasso was 79 when he married his second wife. Picasso created more works of art based on Jacqueline than any of his other loves (over 70 portraits of her in one year). Jacqueline committed suicide in 1986 (gunshot).

When Picasso died on April 8, 1973, Jacqueline, who had been with Picasso for 20 years, prevented Picasso’s children Claude and Paloma from attending his funeral.
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Computers are useless. They can only give you answers.*

There could be such a thing as coincidence, but can it really be Pablo is just a genius painter with androgyne taste and no luck with women ? Or isn’t it more likely we can detect a pattern between cultural icons and their insistence on choosing very man-like women all while not displaying much masculine traits themselves ? I’m no longer surprised when i look back in time to find such an amount of quite obvious exemples of transgendered individuals – the Elite didn’t have modern techniques for transformation back then, and the public no computers.
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Picasso – portrait from Vallauris 1955 by André Villers
•typical posture for a FTM individual – raised shoulders to enlarge chest and shoulder-width – lowered chin to hide typical Adams apple trouble and short neck – trousers set on female waist-indent point to avoid hourglass curve – nude torso to show unquestionable male HRT body hair (all FTM seem to love their beard, baldness and body hair)
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Pablo Picasso 70 years old celebrating in Vallauris with Francoise Gilot
•typical inverted couple skull shapes – Picasso has the rounded head of a woman – Gilot has the typical male forehead and skull – notice the woman has the bigger hands and longer arms
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Picasso with Bull’s head in Vallauris 1949
•The joke is on us – the lifetime artist is no other than the master himself – Picasso
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*quotes by Pablo Picasso

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•Stage 3 : Well proven FTM (Female to Male) cases and theory
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FTM transition can be hard to visualize with HRT (Hormone Replacement Therapy) that make Elite inverted female individuals grow beards, go bold, have masculine type voices and not developing habitual female attributes such as breasts, soft skin and higher percentage of body fat.
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This video from ‘Mushroom Gods’ Youtube channel do a good job to show the feminine traits that inhabit Elite FTM transitioned individuals if we accept to look for nuanced traces of gender specific behavior, gestures and character.
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RIVER PHOENIX – That Dude is like a lady
Mushroom Gods Youtube Channel – 02:12 mm:ss

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For those interested in viewing videos pertaining to EGI research organized according to the stages proposed in this thread, i will update a youtube page with such material in addition to posting videos here in the forum.
•EGI related videos (UNreal Youtube channel)
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1EroNm39fyqeaKNZw5maDw

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•Stage 1 : Discovery and introduction to the concept
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To even have the mindset to follow the EGI topic and postings is sort of an achievement in itself as there is so much propaganda in general and even more on this specific topic of transgenderisation.
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Analysing every lead on who are suspect of EGI or to be transgender can be confusing, misleading and time-consuming for anyone new to the subject. To help new researchers to gain ground at a faster pace, it might be useful to have some solid clues as to where to look for investigating the most obvious cases of EGI.
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The “Top 10” list is open for improvement, and will hopefully evolve over time. Investigating any or all of the listed individuals should provide a good starting point for everyone who wants to contribute to further EGI research and understanding*.
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EGI Top 10 List
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1 Anjelica Huston — actress, director, fashion model
2 Steven Tyler — singer, songwriter, television music competition judge
3 Samantha Power — academic, author, diplomat, US Ambassador to the UN
4 Ann Coulter — political and social commentator, writer, columnist, lawyer
5 Christine Lagarde — politician, lawyer, MD of IMF
6 Patty Smith — singer, songwriter, poet, visual artist
7 Gisele Bündchen — model, actress
8 Russell Brand — actor, radio host, author, activist
9 Melania Trump — model, future 1st lady (?)
10 Gabriela Sabatini — tennis player
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*if you can’t find anyone in the list that qualify as a case of EGI after diligent research, this forum thread and research obviously isn’t meant for you…

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Fakeologist wrote:

Unreal I enjoy the way you flush out a theory

thanks Ab – glad you found the post interesting
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The Hawking type of handicapped person seem like a re-occuring issue and this type of staging could be used in Psyops, surely with different techniques. Maybe they’ve used it on some of the Hawkings – or none ! Still, when i saw the JS video, it struck me that the “new” Hawking pictured could easily be done in the way described by squatting in a repurposed chair. Easy to play one-legged for instance if squatting !

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hello Vespadouglas
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This thread is made for discussion on Elite Gender Inversion as you are well aware. Your contribution on the subject so far has been dismissive arguments against what is presented here all while not contributing with your own position or any EGI related research.
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As you apparently follow the development and research in the thread, you might reconsider your current stance down the road and hopefully at some point start to contribute to EGI research. As it is, you have neither provided research nor made your own position clear with any verifiable exemple. You seem to disagree with the very concept of EGI and even dispute the occurrence(s) of any Elite member being part of couvert transgenderisation.
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EGI is evidently a concept you do not adhere to which is fine. It is however not constructive that you continue to demand answers if you do not contribute to or support EGI research in itself as it is the theme in the this forum thread.

Failure to State
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The goal is to side-step a direct question on a certain issue by redirecting the discussion to something else through numerous questions or attacks. If one confuses the debate with enough counter questions or irrelevant attacks on the questioner, then one might never have to state his position on an issue. This is a common strategy when a person either does not have a viable opinion or has a position that he does not wish to share in a public forum. This is related to red herring arguments.

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•Stage 3 : Well proven FTM (Female to Male) cases and theory
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When you think about it, attention deficit disorder makes a lot of sense. In this country there isn’t a lot worth paying attention to.*

The EGI FTM individuals are the least visually striking examples of transgenderism. To evaluate Female to Male occurrences it is necessary to be familiar with the differences between males and females. There are emotional, mental, and physical differences in natural born men and women, but when it comes to transgendered individuals (often from childhood) we can most commonly only evaluate the physical aspects.
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When gender inversion is made in childhood and kept unannounced, we must realise that this require the family structure to accept and practice such couvert transgenderisation. Individuals that are raised in such an environment will be trained and coached by their parents and mentors to lead successful lives portraying the opposite gender.
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Elite Gender Inversion (EGI) is practiced from childhood in a an environment that have traditions of the practice and who’s members are fully aware of how to go about hiding the true gender-identity of the children that are inverted. Whether all or only parts of Elite families that practice EGI are inverted individuals or not, parents and brethren all are in accord regarding the transgenderisation practiced.
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Members of the EGI are not interested in the public investigating their occult practices nor that we expose inverted individuals that are not supposed to be be unmasked. A much venerated legend like George Carlin is an example that would not be intended to be ‘outed’ as an inverted member of the elite. His credibility would suffer. In fact, even to question the authenticity of Carlin’s message is damaging to his role as a counter-culture icon.

When you’re born you get a ticket to the freak show. When you’re born in America, you get a front-row seat.*

George Carlin has left his wife and daughter with enough editorial material to exploit as to ensure their stardom as well from beyond his grave. The Carlins are now an Elite family “in the club” that ‘Geo’ Carlin so vehemently denounced in his popular HBO specials (14 stand-up comedy specials for HBO between 1977 and 2008 commercial free).
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Are the Carlin family practicing gender inversion ? If they are, they do not want us to know. As they are privileged enough to be in the Elite they therefore have the time, money and motivation to do what it takes to make it look “natural”. This means that if the Carlins were inverted, they would have done Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) and plastic surgery. Their physical appereance, voices and acting would match their respective gender.
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When suggesting that George Carlin is a Elite gender inverted individual, this also means that he has undergone HRT, plastic surgery and would be skilled in acting the opposite gender (no surprise, he’s a professional performer, actor and comedian). These are important facts to consider when evaluating any member of the Elite for EGI, but critics often choose to ignore these facts. Many skeptics will not even be able to study the Carlin family carefully before dismissing the very idea of EGI and that such inversion could be possible. For these type of skeptics it is common that they use logical fallacies* to avoid intelligent debate on the factual evidence and arguments, or even point to Brazilian transexual prostitutes as the only valid examples that exist of transgenderism in our society.

I knew a transsexual guy whose only ambition is to eat, drink, and be Mary.*

When studying George Carlin, the main physical traits that make him a suspect of a FTM inversion is his female headshape, complete lack of browbone and his short arms and female, slim hands (with wrong digit ratio). As Carlin is seen as a boy in photos he must be inverted from childhood and thus have followed habitual protocols regarding his physical appearence – nose job, Adams Apple insertion, jawline optimisation, chin enlargement and HRT. On Carlin, the hormone therapy must be believed to have had major physical effects as his facial hair growth became quite important in his thirties as well as his weight seem to have been affected as became very slim, loosing much fat tissue. As Carlin is suspected of EGI we must consider his family environment as well that would also have to be EGI compatible or even EGI themselves. Carlin has only one daughter (Kelly) with deceased wife Brenda Hosbrook (1997 – liver cancer). Brenda Carlin had all the signs of an inverted individual as has their daughter Kelly today. Carlin’s second wife, Sally Wade, also have visible signs of EGI (awareness at the least, and could be FTM).
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Carlin as a EGI suspect individual should necessarily be evaluated together with his close family and the environment he really was part of, which is the upper class NY show-business milieu. If Carlin indeed is a Female to Male transgendered individual he would not stand out in the “club” he really is part of. It is rather the contrary, the elite in which Carlin now belong is full of EGI occurrences. George Carling would be more of an exception amongst top actors and comedians if he’s not EGI. Based on the factual evidence however, i’m quite sure no naturally born man can have such little brow-bone, short arms, wrong fingers and a transexual wife or two.

Just when I discovered the meaning of life, they changed it.*

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George Carlin as a boy in NY – already seem to rehearse for public appearances
•short arms, narrow shoulders and female neck could motivate for this pose where pants are worn high (belt attached at suspected female waistline) and arms are in movement towards the camera
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George Carlin in the Army – very pretty face with female traits at this age
•straight slim nose, female pointed chin and shallow female eyes – handkerchief in neck that partially hide lack of Adams apple
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George Carlin in the Air force – more mature
•no sign of Adams apple, pointed chin and no jaw
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George Carlin as older
•body show signs of female bone-structure – very short arms, narrow shoulders and wide hips (hip/shoulder ratio clearly female)
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George Carlin on stage as older
•No jaw-bone, female rounded forehead, very short female arms and small hands
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George Carlin PR image
•Carlin seemingly is conscious about short arms, small hands and troublesome neck – hands in very high sitting pockets and lowered jaw that hide neck
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George Carlin PR image (2)
•Carlin again disguise short arms, small hands and troublesome neck – the perspective of the pose exaggerate arm and hand sizes, lowered chin and sweater hide neck
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George Carlin PR image (3)
•Carlin again counteract appearance of short arms, small hands and troublesome neck – the pose again exaggerate arm and hand sizes (long index), hands also hide neck
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George Carlin as a young comedian
•Carlin uncommonly expose neck and image is retouched with exaggerated shadows under chin – very female face-shape and pointed chin along with small fist around mic
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George Carlin as a young comedian (2)
•Carlin hide neck with microphone (used on many occurrences) and tucked in chin – pose make chin look more masculine despite it is pointed and same small hand
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George Carlin as a young comedian (poster)
•Carlin again with covered neck – very female face-shape and pointed chin and no jaw-structure, no brow-bone and no visible male frontal sinus development
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George Carlin at Comedy Festival Las Vegas 2005
•Carlin as older where neck is less troublesome – very female overall rounded face and forehead much like older women – no brow-bone, no jaw-structure and no cheekbone
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George Carlin in 1982 Playboy interview
•Carlin sport newly repaired nose after car accident at 3:30 AM july 1981 (no one hurt except Carlin) – pose once again made to hide Carlin’s neck and hands up against camera to appear more male (small hands and short arms benefit from such a pose)
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George Carlin as a middle aged comedian
•Carlin still seem bothered by his neck and Adams apple – new disguisement technique with beard – narrow shoulders, small chest and short arms despite cropped image
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George Carlin with his young daughter and wife Brenda
•we already have seen how Carlin early in his career had no significant Adams apple so it seems evident that his (son me thinks) daughter Kelly’s hand is used to disguise Carlin’s neck – not a casual photo as it appears and Brenda look tense as if not used to PR work
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Carlin family with George, Brenda and young Kelly
•Brenda show her long neck (and even signs of male thyroid cartilage) and large shoulders all while Kelly look very boyish and Carlin clearly is hiding his neck because of lacking Adams apple
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Brenda Hosbrook Carlin – one of very few portraits of Carlin’s 1st wife
•Male face shape with square jaw, deep set eyes, big teeth, wide smile, wide shoulders and long neck
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Sally Wade Carlin – Carlin’s 2nd wife
•Sally became Carlins wife only a year after Brenda’s death from liver cancer mai 11th 1997 – Sally has deep set male eyes and broad mouth – George once again cover his neck with his low chin pose and dark sweater
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Sally Wade Carlin – image from the opening of George Carlin Way (Carlito’s Way ?)
•Visible brow-bone structure, male neck with traces of trachea shave, big male cheek-bones, sizeable ears an deep set eyes. Probably has had jaw-contouring and rhinoplasty (nose reduction and nose shortening) but clear case of EGI FTM
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Sally Wade Carlin – Mark Twain Prize 2008
•Sally has very slender figure and the arm-length and hands of a man (exact opposite of George as expected for EGI reverted couples)
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Kelly Marie Carlin – born June 1963
•Overall manly look – as suspected from childhood imagery – wide shoulders male hairline and pose to shorten and hide neck
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Kelly Carlin – In the Club her father left her in – LA 2015
•Comedian Carrie Snow, Kelly Carlin and author James Tripp at book signing for ‘A Carlin Home Companion’ – the peeling banana joke seem to be popular and the three friends seem all into the underlying meaning
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Daughters of Comedy Godfathers: Kelly Carlin, Rain Pryor, & Kitty Bruce
(The Foundation for Individual Rights in Education, 1:02:50 h:mm:ss)
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Sally Wade Carlin interviewed on her book – George Carlin’s Private Letters
(Simon & Schuster Books, 05:14 mm:ss)
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George Carlin’s Views on Politics, Counter Culture Comedy – Kelly Carlin Interview
(The Rubin Report, 06:55 mm:ss)
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*Quotes from George Carlin ( georgecarlin.net & brainyquote )
*fallacies like appeal to ridicule, shifting the burden of proof, hasty generalizations or failure to state (example from this very thread in Vespadouglas refusal to state a name)

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•Stage 3 : Well proven FTM (Female to Male) cases and theory
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H/T Vercite

There are a lot of videos on the thransgender theme on Youtube, and some of the videos do go into detail on famous cases where FTM transition can be suspected. With HRT (Hormone Replacement Therapy) FTM entities are more difficult to visually connect with Gender inversion. As these videos all show, we have to assume that FTM entities will have beards, go bold and have masculine type voices, all while not developing significant female attributes such as breasts, soft skin and higher percentage of body fat.
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MrE3000 – Bradley Cooper is a woman (14:13 mm:ss)
•some religious overtone, strong connections made between TG individuals

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Junglesurfer – Rolling Stones are women (13:26 mm:ss)
•With age, all members of the group do look FTM – good case and important video

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Junglesurfer – Terence Trans Darby is now Maitreya (07:51 mm:ss)
•D’Arby now named Sananda Maitreya

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hristos mandylor – Terence Trans D’Arby (10:44 mm:ss)
•feature original tv-footage that is very revealing when alerted to EGI

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Fakeologist wrote:

I don’t know what a “transgender being” is nor do I care. I find her critique of our self-indulgent lifestyle refreshing though.

Agree, Camille Paglia has some interesting points of view for sure.
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However, Paglia also seem to be tailored as controlled opposition for the feminist movement she indirectly promotes. The feminist mouvement itself has most certainly been put in place by the elites, so who should we expect to run the opposition ? Paglia is also very politically active and her wikipedia page ( here ) is quite informative as to her importance on the feminist and lesbian culture. Politically Puglia prouds herself to stand against laws on prostitution, pornography, drugs, and abortion. Cognitive dissonance seems to be Paglia’s main occupation as it doesn’t make much sense to hail the extended family all while watching pornography and aborting children.
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So, what are the chances that Paglia is a disinformation agent with appealing discourse but with a blind alley destination ? It begins to get uncanny that most “personalities” that lead any kind of movement have so many opposite gender traits. Regarding Paglia we might forget to suspect her personally as she’s an outward lesbian and identified feminist, regardless of her “struggle” against other feminists like Gloria Steinem.

It takes one to know one

Looking closer at Camille Puglia, and taking her by her own words and description as a “transgender being”, i strongly suggest she’s a MTF EGI individual herself. Combined with the prominent role Paglia play within feminism and soon gender identification*, it is also symptomatic that Elite Gender Inverted individuals are indeed leading the debate in all things gender such as sexology, human reproduction, feminism, homosexuality and transgenderism.
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Camille Paglia as a young activist
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Camille Puglia interview screenshot
•bad digit ratio and probable scar from Trachea shave
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Camille Puglia PR image
•skewed angle to make shoulders appear smaller, hair look male and hints at scarring on throat despite heavily retouched image
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Camille Puglia – PR image from media feud with Taylor Swift
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Camille Puglia – University of the Arts commencement ceremonies 1999 (Philadelphia)
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Camille Puglia – 2016 interview with Tyler at George Mason University
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Gloria Steinem – famous radical feminist
•bad digit ratio both hands – pyramid sign for male – not probable she/he could could speak of abortion with personal experience (mis-information on her/his part)
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Gloria Steinem
•visible scaring on throat – likely Trachea shave – overall wide square manly face
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Gloria Steinem posing for Inside Fashion Magazine
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Margaret Mead feminist political activist (young)
•100% male facial features – very broad brow-ridge
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Margaret Mead older (1972)
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Susan Sontag prominent bisexual women’s rights activist
•typical ‘thinking man pose’ – prominent brow, deep set wide eyes and wide masculine mouth
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Susan Sontag PR image
•Short index-finger despite pose that partly dissimulate her left hand finger ratio – pose made with shoulders pulled toward neck to shorten neck and narrow shoulders – heavy exposure to soften features
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*Paglia’s next book (2017) is entitled ‘Free Women, Free Men: Sex, Gender, and Feminism’

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Camille Paglia has an impressive word-output, quite reminds me of early Woody Allen,,
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There are a lot of points that is brought up in this video from feminism, nuclear family, sex-reassignment surgery, cultural collapse to the author defining herself as transgender (if i understood that part right).
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I probably should watch a larger portion of this interview to understand better what Puglia’s message and information. Puglia make very good points on the nuclear family and how the family as a multi generation unit is more efficient and humane. Regarding transgenderism she outline there is a lot of propaganda and that sex-reassignment surgery is successful in changing anyones gender on a holistic level. I’m more confused about her considering herself “trans” and theorizing many expressions of gender and “gray areas”.
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Are there more references to Puglia’s material, and how do you understand her message ?

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Regarding “No Agenda” show i’m very skeptical to celebrities that pose as “alternative” truth-seekers such as Adam Curry who himself most probably would be “in the club” as he’s both a tv and radio star, media-ownner and multimillionaire.
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In Holland Adam Curry even had his own tv-show entitled ‘Adam’s Family’ that aired for one season on SBS6 in 2003. This was a “real time” tv-show much like the Keeping Up with the Kardashians (KUWTK) or The Osbournes where Adam Curry & Patricia Paay’s daughter Christina also starred.
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EGI or not, Curry might have real insider knowledge on this anti-human agenda to minors as the ex-MTV VJ’s “top-model” daughter Christina very much appear to be a product out of the contemporary culture creation cookbook and look quite manly with many signs of MTF transgenderisation… if verified, Christina Curry must have been “inverted” by her parents since childhood…
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Adam Curry with his “in the club” cigar
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Christina Curry arriving at her mothers “La Paay” book presentation in 2013
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Christina Curry as a model – large shoulders and visible collar-bones
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Christina Curry for i-D Magazine – wrong digit ratio

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For a direct download link to the latest No Agenda Show:
http://mp3s.nashownotes.com/NA-890-2016-12-29-Final.mp3

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Hello Vespadouglas
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I’m far from convinced by your research methods as you describe them. Standards of proof that change by the day and differs with each psyop or suspicious event is not methodical nor scrupulous. “Something” that give an EGI/trans individual away sound overly vague and far away from the standards we try to set in this thread.
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For the interest of EGI as a subject and this forum thread, i’ll ask you again*, can you give an example and name a person* that you qualify as EGI/trans ?
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*i ask you this question for the third time
*a commonly known person would allow followers of the thread to make up their own minds and do their own research

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