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I wasn’t aware of the audio he posted, thanks. I just listened to the first 30 mins, interesting feedback (or lack of it) to the core issue you’ve raised, Gaia. Wish you luck in resolving your disappointment.
Funny though, he thinks I lack logic. I think he lacks proper reading abilities. He criticized my criticism about charging for access to his truth posts, saying I said that I want more free content. That’s accusing me of something I never said, which makes it a lie. That’s rude. On top of everything else, I don’t need this kind of crap from some ball Earth skeptic. That’s kind of septic for my mind to boggle with. So I came to this thread for one last time to say I regret posting anything public here.
I have no issues with a concept of asking readers for a fee, which some websites / authors use for private purposes. Even if an author decides to devote his/her time pro bono, there are still some costs related to hosting a webpage, buying domains, maintaining it, etc… But this is entirely different concept from monetizing the access to the content of one’s webpage, which I find turned upside-down. You see, it contradicts the main cause which supposedly made any truther research and publish his/her findings – we fight against obfuscation of truth, which is the main reason for the mess around us, so we want everybody to know what we know in order to change this crazy world into something better, more accessible and joyful for the ordinary people. Introducing a monetized approach to try and change the messy world we fight against is clearly a straight shot in the knee, not reasonable at all.
I’m glad you found a way to see who’s behind the mask, I know the feeling of realizing when being tricked. But that’s a very valuable experience, especially if it was a cheap mistake in your judgement. Paying a few dollars to find the truth is a bargain fee, after all, and now even I got to know it – for free. So don’t be ashamed or feel bad about it, it’s humane to make an error in your judgement. Been there, done that 😎
I think we’re not trying to get divided by some tactics, there’s much simpler reason behind your feeling. Don’t forget we all have different reasons why we chose not to participate in the sheeple madness anymore and why we started making some difference. Well, we might have been delusional to think we’re making any difference, but that’s another issue. Until we start realizing that we are already united in our cause, there will be disputes between us. That’s why I always try to reach out for anybody I find genuine and wholeheartedly involved in deconstructing this mad world. Mathis is THE man in this aspect for me and I’ve already explained to you where I started deconstructing our world of lies – in physics/science, slowly progressing through everything else. In my opinion, Mathisian charge resolves practically all “mysteries” of modern-day, mainstreamed physics in coherent and elegant way, which is a monumental achievement. But that”s a discussion for some other forum thread….
Reading this post about JLB came as a big surprise for me, especially since it came from you. I have a fresh memory of you suggesting his website is worth including in the link section at POM and saying that paying for a membership access to his site is money well spent. I guess we’re all just people, who tend to change our worldviews as the time passes by. And that is both a human characteristic and a possibility for growth and personal improvement.
I told you some time ago that taking skepticism to the extreme may turn anybody into an utterly nihilistic person. Nihilism is a philosophical trap. And I honestly believe that is JLB’s single biggest issue, he has lost himself in the maze of his own thoughts, where anything he’s not able to factually prove, gets dismissed. He ended up with an extremely short list of reality he was able to confirm (in his own methodology) and now he’s stuck with it. It’s hard to find anybody to talk to with this kind of limiting yourself. In the extreme, say the philosophers, “cogito ergo sum” is the only thought that can survive a nihilistic approach. I say – bollocks.
Another very disturbing thing in my opinion is the concept of dissipating the truth – for money. So if I understand this correctly, anybody who reaches the highest levels of knowledge and/or truth, has an opportunity to be reach since there are numerous guys and gals willing to pay for it. Well, I completely reject this idea. How about doing it for free, because you want everybody to reach your level and actually improve this crazy world? How about helping everybody instead of creating another obstacle in order to reach knowledge? I really don’t know what to make of it. Frankly, I have an opinion about such monetizing of truther’s page – it’s really, really wrong way to go as a truther.
xileffilex, thank you for all your shared findings, I can’t express enough gratitude for it.
My gratitude goes as well to all other contributors here, who shared the clues of anomalies found in the MSM Lockerbie pictures & stories. Only by constant awareness of matrix are we set free of it, but it’s a calming joy to be aware that there are already many of us awakened.
- This reply was modified 3 years, 6 months ago by vexman.
So, mrg4ull, you do not have a single picture from that search, not even where you are pictured with your colleagues while at it? I went to check the Raynet’s site and there are indeed some pictures there, mostly picturing officials while in search for debris or at the canteen while at rest. Which again only confirms that some people were engaged in search, retrieving scattered debris to central location. Which is a fact that none of us here disputed at any point – to perpetrate a trick, you need real people in front of the camera performing real actions meant to be recorded & published by MSM outlets, affecting our senses and mind with, insinuating that bodies and debris are allegedly scattered over enormous area. Yet no real carnage is shown, not even a partially wounded victim among onboard passengers. How considerate of all of you not to “harm” our innocent mind with such imagery, while we get flashed at the same period in time (1988) with real imagery of war & famine victims from all over the world. Sure. But this time you better pull it out of the drawer, it’s your last opportunity to convince us otherwise. Or at least me, I’m your biggest sceptic here, yet absolutely willing to change my mind and apologize for believing that Lockerbie incident is a HOAX. But don’t come back with the imagery on the web to do so, I’ve seen it all, there is nothing there substantial enough to back you claims with it.
Like I said before, you may have actually been there with the Raynet’s crew, searching for whatever you were sent to search for. Do you have any pictures from the historic spectacle site, where you can be seen in the picture? Anything personal? Can you relate at all to our scepticism with understanding about how circumstantial all this officially available “evidence” looks like? If you can’t, yet at the same time you can’t produce anything more convincing, than we have a big communicational issue here. I’m fed up with this official narrative and “evidence” of nonsensical stories, and you showed up here parroting ages old mantras, expecting us to what exactly? Change our beliefs about Lockerbie based on your expert opinion and loads of convincing pictures never seen before? You lack several things to be able to try and do so.
- This reply was modified 3 years, 6 months ago by vexman. Reason: spell check
Interesting comment, mrg4ull. I don’t see why should it be important whether you’re paid or not paid to reply here, that alone could make me question your reasons. I’d really like to know if you have personally seen any victims’ bodies? In what state were they? How did you handle the corpses? Do you have any pictures to back your claims with or will you stay at those published and back them with your words? Coming here to refute all published empty-handed is meaningless, your words alone will not be enough.
In case you did not know, the alleged crater was left by impact of wing section full of kerosene and not by fuselage. Allegedly, according to the official story, there was nothing left of it after the explosion except for some bolts and nuts. So you surely did not touch that part of debris / fuselage from the crater area. The fuselage would and could not have exploded as there is nothing to explode within it. But it is different with wings, hence the crater left. You are as well referring to a terrorist bomb as the cause of death, which would make you unique in regard to the knowledge about what actually brought the plane down.
But than again, I have to consider the possibility you were goofed with Lockerbie incident as much as the rest of the world. It is possible you were actually a member of Reynet’s crew sweeping the area for debris, not even realizing that you are sweeping debris that were not from an accident of 103 flight. I’d encourage you to take a link here , thoroughly read all posted and only then come back with something more substantial than words.