Well well well.Is there any science behind a 10pm closing time?
We're not entirely sure.
Speaking on the Andrew Marr Show this weekend, the University of Edinburgh's Prof Mark Woolhouse, a member of the government's infection modelling team, said "there isn't a proven scientific basis for any of this".
However, he said this also applied to the nationwide lockdown which occurred from 23 March onwards.
"With Covid".the number of patients in hospital with COVID including those in mechanical ventilation
the number of patients admitted to hospital with COVID
the number of patients diagnosed in hospital with COVID
https://www.uclh.nhs.uk/OurServices/Ser ... ID-19.aspxIf you are admitted to our hospital, either overnight, or for day surgery, you will be tested to see if you have COVID-19. This includes patients who may not have any symptoms of COVID-19 (new continuous cough OR fever OR loss of/ change in smell or taste, find out more on the NHS website).
See also the post by Simon Shack at Cluesforum with embedded videoDr Kevin Corbett Interview 4th October 2020
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Retired nurse and health scientist Dr Kevin Corbett joins me to discuss Covid-19 / SARS-CoV-2 and the similarities to the 1980s panic over HIV-Aids. These similarities span the scientific investigation, clinical testing, elements of the care, and the governmental approaches employed.
Kevin explains how contagion fears have affected the medical profession, major elements of the scientific community and our political leadership alike.
He explains the rationale behind his view that the current crisis represents the corruption of medical actors and a Nazification of the NHS. He concludes that this is part of a wider move to expand centralised command and control measures across society.
Full link to the "science" which Zambon and co dug up for SAGESAGE meeting May 14 [advising UK Govt] minutes extract:
May 14
33. It is possible that asymptomatic individuals are less infectious, but this cannot currently be quantified. There is a key knowledge gap concerning how positive testing correlates with the presence of live, recoverable virus (i.e. infectiousness), although PHE is
currently investigating this.
ACTION: PHE (Maria Zambon) to provide current summary of Covid-19 biology for consideration by NERVTAG (by 15 May) to inform its input to planned consortium researching infectiousness
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*** why would that be?This document attempts to ascertain the duration of the infectious period for individuals infected with SARS-CoV-2, by reviewing data on duration of viral shedding measured by PCR positivity, Ct values and viable virus culture..... RT-PCR detection does not distinguish between infectious and non-infectious virus. The ability to recover infectious virus from clinical samples may be a better proxy for infectiousness, but this is not widely available. *** Hence it is important to review data which link these two measurements and
consider to what extent RT-PCR Ct value can be used as a proxy for infectiousness.
Cherry picking?Up to 80% of active SARS-CoV-2 infections are proposed to be asymptomatic based on cross-sectional
studies
We screened 1138 studies and included 22. The pooled estimate for the asymptomatic proportion of
SARS-CoV-2 infections was 28%
was it now?Infectious virus was isolated by viral culture from 33% (1/3) of available asymptomatic case specimens, 70.8% (17/24) of presymptomatic case specimens, and 65.0% (16/20) for symptomatic case specimens
Seems like a viral load **** of waffle.Virological evidence suggests that infectious SARS-CoV-2 can be isolated by viral culture from samples with cycle threshold [CT] values
up to 33... The sample of asymptomatic cases in studies that reported duration of viral shedding also tended to be small, and the natural history of viral excretion by symptom status remains unclear. Further inquiry into the degree of preclinical shedding for pre-symptomatic
cases, although not the focus of this review, is also warranted. The contribution of asymptomatic and presymptomatic cases to the overall spread of infection cannot be accurately inferred in the absence of highquality evidence assessing the infectiousness of such casesThis review was also limited to estimating the asymptomatic proportion of virologically-confirmed infections.
The asymptomatic proportion of infection varies depending on whether infections are identified using virological or serological methods4
**** However, PCR cycle threshold values provide an informative estimate of viral load and, by extension, probable infectiousnessOverall, this review provides preliminary evidence that, when investigated using methodologically-appropriate studies, a substantial minority of SARS-CoV-2 infections with viral shedding are truly asymptomatic
| Carl Vernon- Perhaps the high proportion of students has influence the results, i.e. a greater proportion of the city volunteering or being coerced into testing to produce the CASESCambridge in particular experienced a significant increase in the number of cases compared to last week (+52 per cent).
Once the public health crisis has ended, policymakers must develop a long-term response which recognises that the economic damage done by Coronavirus will be felt differently across the country.
Without a place-focussed economic response, the geographic inequalities that we saw before the Coronavirus will become even more entrenched, and the Prime Minister’s mission to level up the country will even harder to achieve.
Centre for Cities will be working on this in the future.
all those selfish people killing granny.they will “soldier on” as numbers of patients with the virus start to approach the levels they were at the peak of the pandemic...
[covid has] come back and hit us with a vengeance”.
“Staff are exhausted, they’re tired, they’re run down.. it’s disheartening to see people protesting and people going against the rules
The hospital's medical director Rowan Pritchard Jones said... “It is so difficult for those of us who walk in every day to care for the most critically ill patients that we know someone sprayed ‘hoax’ on the side of a town hall.
Everyone who enters hospital is tested. If they die within 28 days, they are a covid victim, whatever the cause. And we have no idea of the number of PcR cycles used anywhere.NINE more people who tested positive for coronavirus have died at St Helens and Knowsley Teaching Hospitals Trust in the latest 48-hour period, official figures show.
https://www.sthelensstar.co.uk/news/188 ... irus-ward/More than half of all positive cases occurred in people aged 30 to 59....On Friday, Whiston opened its fifth coronavirus ward to deal with the growing number of patients.
The [slightly less than] 50 percent jump to scare usLast Monday, the trust confirmed that it had seen admissions at Whiston Hospital jump from 66 to 90 over the weekend.