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I was intending to move on, but from the aspect of fakeology, I keep spotting little nuggets. From the locations Danny chose to edit into his film, I think like most movies, there is a subtext that runs contrary to its actual stated aim. The film's message, the security services/police employ agent provocateurs to infiltrate protest groups in order to instigate violence at peaceful protests. When what the visuals show in reality, the whole shebang is set up by collusion of national and local governments, big business, the media, police, unions and universities...I've got to fancy, if you check back on the map, just north of the starting point of the Queen Street West demonstration route is Queen's Park, keeping with the royal theme, this is where a large number of arrests apparently took place during the Saturday protests. In the film, there are interviews with people who claim to have been beaten up indiscriminately by the police in said park. This is just next door to the University of Toronto, and looks to be part of the university district. I bet any money that there is a performing arts school within that university campus. Let's take a look.

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https://www.cdtps.utoronto.ca/
The Centre for Drama, Theatre and Performance Studies offers rich, diverse, and rigorous academic programs for undergraduate and graduate students. Located in the downtown core of Canada’s largest city, the Centre is the perfect place to experience and to become involved in cutting edge research, innovative pedagogy and artistic practice. The Centre is a part of Canada’s largest university, with one of the best research libraries in North America and one of the finest faculties. With two labs invested in performance and technology (BMO Lab and Digital Dramaturgy Lab2), Institute for Dance Studies, Native Performance Working group, Centre for Spectatorship and Audience Research, Poculi Ludique Societas, and three performance venues, the Centre supports the creative and intellectual explorations of our students and faculty. It is a place where you meet some of the best scholars and artists in the world.

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Helen Gardiner Phelan Playhouse
79 St. George Street, Toronto, ON M5S 2E5

And this is the map showing the campus area, Queen's Park indeed part of the university's property. A, being the Helen Gardiner Phelan Playhouse...I think we just found Lez Luthor's Opera House...and B, Queen's Park, where the arrests took place. Do you get why we live in a lawless state? Because if it happens on private property, it's no business of public authorities. The more public institutions are privatise, the more a country is converted into a set of fiefdoms revolving around city states.

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So, was it just a coincidence that when Charlie was arrested, he let slip he was detained by "police" in cages set up on the premises of the Toronto Film Studios. Or that Danny chose to film long range shots showing that the rioters causing damage where primarily surrounded by photographers, and not other protesters. Or that he included shots outside the construction of a Trump Tower, or the National Film Board of Canada where all the apparent police offices in riot gear looked as if they came out of?

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It gets better though, I don't think I can be bothered putting up all the plastic faces I've spotted. But this one is revealing, because it just goes to show the theft of public money is unending. Can you make out the fake nose, cheeks and forehead; Mike has that strange shiny plastic texture to the upper part of his face.

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rachel wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2023 3:32 pm Over 1000 arrests were made, making it the largest mass arrest in Canadian history. In the aftermath of the protests, the Toronto Police Service and the Integrated Security Unit (ISU) of the G20 Toronto summit were heavily criticized for brutality during the arrests and eventually went under public scrutiny by media and human rights activists. There has been legal action in the form of a class action lawsuit towards the Toronto police on behalf of all of those who were arrested despite the Toronto Police's several attempts to stop court proceedings by appealing the case. As of November 10, 2016 The Supreme Court of Canada ruled that it will not hear the Toronto Police Services Board's appeal. As a result, a class action lawsuit was able to proceed on November 25, 2016 towards trial. On August 17, 2020, The Canadian Press announced that the lawsuit had resulted in a $16.5 million settlement. Those arrested were each awarded dollar amounts ranging from $5,000 to $24,700.

I forgot to mention 'HUMAN RIGHTS ORGANISATIONS' in my list of treasonous state assets, you know the ones which disappeared into thin air when actual human rights abuses took place during the CORONAVIRUS LOCKDOWNS. They are just another set of fictional entities where taxes go to die.

Question: were any of the people filmed actual police officers, or were they all a mix of actors, extras and performing arts students? Is this why the Toronto Police tried on several attempts to stop court proceedings by appealing the case...because the abuses were all made-up bullshit? Is that $16.5 MILLION SETTLEMENT real money billed to Canadian taxpayers? I would think it probably is; the money is real, everything else is media fakery...and everyone plays along, because they all get a cut.

But I haven't got to the cherry on the top...

I'd previously noted that InfoWars and Prison Planet seemed to be the joint first sources of alternative information with regards to the Smolensk plane crash of the 10th April 2010. They appear to be the first ones to promote the narrative about the assassination of crash survivors by Russian secret police via the release of the staged Andrei Mendierej film.
rachel wrote: Thu Sep 07, 2023 10:43 am Fourth witness, longest and most in-depth testimony, Slawomir Wissniewski, film editor TVP. From what I can understand, the Andrei Mendierej video which I've littered this thread with, the original story surrounding it is that journalist Andrei Mendierej filmed it, posted it to youtube, for some reason Info Wars, Prison Planet and I guess the Polish equivalent found it straight away, then Andrei Mendierej was stabbed in the street, rushed to hospital, then someone else finished him off by taking his tubes out, something like that. This all happened almost instantly of the video being shared on the internet. Later, it is claimed that story is bogus and actually Slawomir Wissniewski made the film in the woods. This is his testimony in the 2022 report...

So the Polish plane crash happened on Saturday 10 April 2010, and the start of the G20 Summit was Saturday 26 June 2010...that works out to be a gap of 2 MONTHS 2 WEEKS 2 DAYS, or 11 WEEKS exactly, or...77 DAYS.

And here comes INFO WARS...
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CHARLIE ON THE STREET: I've gotta be careful, I'm going to get busted for inciting a riot.

THROUGH LOUD HAILER: Why are you blocking peaceful protesters off every 100 metres? Why are you not letting people walk through the...


DANNY ON INFOWARS: A very interesting thing that happened; Charlie and I were in the middle of this particular protests where everybody got surrounded, and they had blocked the street on Queen Street leading up to Spadina [Avenue]. The area where one of the police cars was on fire. And Charlie got on the bullhorn and said, 'you know, if this line is blocked, let's go north, everybody'.

CHARLIE, THROUGH LOUD HAILER: ...why they are blocking us, I guess we're gonna have to go that way.

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DANNY ON INFOWARS: So everybody started to go this way, and then all of a sudden the police opened up the line, it allowed everyone to go through. Almost like as if they wanted us to be in that particular area. Where that police car was on fire.

CHARLIE ON THE STREET: I'm so busy today, I'm so sorry. I've got so much stuff I need to do. I've got to be on the radio in an hour. [Charle leaves the protest.]

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So if they are talking about a police car on fire on Queen Street, it would be a third car; the one with the number 766 we saw at the beginning being smashed up. I'm not convinced the continuity is correct as Danny and Charlie previously spent about ten minutes telling us how the police wouldn't let them get to the protest area on Queen Street, and the Spadina Avenue side is where the protest apparently started, and I've not yet spotted that police car on fire, just smashed up.

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Ok, because this post is getting quite long, I'm going to have to save the best bit for the next post. I think it's probably worth a bit of a transcript added anyway. Stay tuned.
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Just to remind the reader, we are still on the events of Saturday 26th June. I had skipped ahead to Sunday for the post on the Toronto Film Studio demonstration because I wasn't intending to cover the apparent police brutality in the park as I didn't think there was anything for the bigger picture. But then I saw something that I think is worth recording, particularly in the light of my research on the Smolensk plane crash. I don't know what Ab's definition of a fakeologist is, but I've always seen it in the light of Sherlock Holmes...quite neutral in the side to take, and just looking to see what the evidence unfolds...and I might add, this is exactly why I've fallen in love with the Bible. Forget the codes in the way the Illuminati want to sell them. It's not that, it's more like a Mystery Riddle.

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So we had Danny telling INFOWARS viewers that there was a police car on fire on Queen Street West, and this confused me because I haven't watched the full film. It turns out from another witness, some three plus hours after the original events on Queens Street West where two police cars were smashed up, the same two cars were set alight. This makes sense, because it was raining at the beginning of the protest, look at the people with banners, there is visible surface water on the ground.

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As events progress through the day, the rain clears and the ground dries off. We can see the ground still has a wet sheen when the police with bikes appear on the scene. This is apparently just after Black Block have smashed the cars, there are still figures in black surrounding them. I'm not sure what police holding bikes are meant to do? But we can tell the video of the torched cars is some time later as the ground is dry.

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But we see below, using the H&M pink logo as our reference, the police car that was behind 766 is almost completely burned out, but 766 is just smashed, there are no protesters around, only police. Then on the second image, we can spot the side of the H&M pink logo on the right, confirming police car 766 is now on fire, again still surrounded by police. In the last of the three pictures, the edge of the H&M pink logo can just be seen through the black smoke, confirming a different angle of 766 on fire.

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It's interesting, if we step back to the start and look at that footage, there are police in high visibility jackets directly in the area of the two police cars, then there is a cut, and we next see footage of Black Bloc protesters attacking one of the two cars. And just caught in the foreground two people with their hoods up, indicating there's still rain in the air.

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But just before leaving this series of pictures, if we go back to the single picture where we see a set of police pushing their bikes, it is taken from an elevated location. There are a number of people with cameras standing on the roof tops of the businesses on that side of the street. How did they get up there? Who gave them permission to be there, it's private property after all? ...We get a look at the location in the middle fire grab. Looking at the adjacent roofs and their suitability for people to stand on, we can conclude the police car was positioned in order for people at that elevated location to be able to film the area where the action was happening. I would therefore suggest the people up there are all students from Toronto University, and the exercise on Toronto's main high street is a filming project, hence they are not getting paid, it's so they can pass a filming module.

Just to add, I think it's one of the INFOWAR team talking, the guy with the 911 t-shirt. He says the police left the car to burn for a long time, but let a CBC News van through to park by it. You remember the CBC building is smack bang in the centre of G20 activities. Only some time after CBC News had done their stuff did a fire engine turn up to put the fire out. So after the students did their work, it's left to the big boys to create the narrative to be broadcast across the world.

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Going back to the Danny and Charlie interview, Charlie actually says nothing, and look at his face, he's not a happy bunny. We can maybe see the beginnings of why he did '9/11: CONSPIRACY ROAD TRIP', he has some actual insider knowledge of what went on to stage those events. He probably wasn't aware of what was going to transpire as a result. He left to do an interview before the park and the apparent police brutality. So from that point of view, he doesn't know the score. But whatever he does know, we can see it is troubling him.

I haven't yet got to the point I mentioned at the end of the last post. I didn't actually want to go into this in such depth, but if we want to understand how the game is played, then this is the way to find the clues.
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Now I understand the part at the end of the last post about Charlie, it might be a scripted act. But from some of the current videos Charlie does, I'm prepared to entertain the idea this is all semi-real. They know something is going down in Toronto, and they have a brief with regards to the sort of shots they need to get, but other than that, the rest is quite fluid.

Danny's film is interesting, because although he's not saying it in his narrative, it seems that we have the events, we have the people filming the events, and then we have Danny filming the people filming the events. And with some of the other footage he includes, this perspective seems to be intentional. But it gets more interesting when we consider InfoWars, because rather than just reporting of news, InfoWars together with Prison Planet appears to have been the original source for the strewn dead bodies photos that were claimed to have been taken at the Smolensk crash which happened a couple of months earlier to this event. Is it just that TinEye does not find pictures on Polish media sites, or were these two English speaking alternative news outlets really the first to publishing those pictures?

rachel wrote: Wed Jun 14, 2023 11:03 pm I've found a 10 April 2010 post from the blogger who posted the "death pictures" I linked to earlier. Because I'm doing this in real time, I kept an open mind about them, but equally the whole presentation looked staged. Now I'm more familiar with the crash site, the less it makes sense where that picture is supposed to have been taken. There is no recognisable wreckage visible, and having a little look on tineye to see where and when it first appeared, what do you know...

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Prison Planet and InfoWars, funnelers of the alternative narrative. It was first seen on May 4, 2010, so nearly a month after the crash. Time enough maybe for an art installation of "dead people in a field" to be commissioned based on the media pictures of the Smolensk plane crash...

It would appear not. At around 42 minutes, the film shows riot police lined up outside the front of the Metropolitan Toronto Police Headquarters while we can hear the sound of windows being smashed around the corner. The police seem not to know what to do; we can see some of them are looking around as if to ask, "shouldn't we be engaging?"

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But as the person filming runs around the corner to see what's actually going on, we see more young people in hardhats filming apparent Black Bloc protesters smashing in the police headquarters windows at the side of the building.

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Question; if this was an organic event, would we really see young people filming a guy they don't know brandishing a metal bar smashing up police property? ...And bringing their hard-hats in advance? These are not people with phones, they've all got proper cameras, a mix of film and still. The only logical conclusion is Toronto University students were given a brief to film the activities happening during the day; that way they know the only danger they are in is possibly from flying glass, with the glass chosen to be smashed actually likely being tempered glass.

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Then we have a witness testimony from an independent media person called Daniel Libby, he's pictured earlier next to Charlie. He describes what then happens on University Avenue...just by the university.
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As I'm walking up University [Avenue], that's where I see the vans pulling up. Huge row of vans, of riot cops. And they pull up really fast. And as I cross the street, I see the Black Bloc walking down College Street. This was probably right after they smashed the Toronto Police headquarters. The Black Bloc gets there, I cross the street and there's one van just parked by itself. And that's to me...that's sort of seemed like a setup.

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I could see the cop starting to get out of the vans to cross the street, the riot cops, and then they sort of formed one of those lines again. And then something happened with the Black Bloc; like a lot of the people that were smashing the van would like run into Queens Park, and it's sort of like you lose track of them. I guess a lot of them were changing because there was a pile of black clothes, I can definitely say that I saw that.

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We can again see the majority of people around the Black Bloc protesters are young people with cameras. And now we are right by the University, the pink A tag pointing to the university theatre, the pink B tag showing Queen's Park with the North-South road cutting through it being University Avenue.

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I'll continue on the next post.
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I'm actually now getting to the point, but it was worth the extra posts to fill in the background details around this section of the film.

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Quoted above in the last post was Daniel Libby's witness testimony. And if we look up Silsa Productions we see confirmation of his presence at the bottom of the page, "Also check the ‘KRS-ONE’’ radio interview from March 2008. Hosted by Daniel Libby on Word of Mouth Wednesday", it would appear there has been no activity here from Daniel Libby for some years.

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Looking at some of the projects, I see of note FREE THE MASONS - Toronto Truth Seekers as an example. This is really quite interesting actually, because I thought it was odd that the interview I found where the 'Smolensk Widow' tries to explain the rationale behind all the journalists and generals being told to switch planes the night before the ill-fated flight, meaning all the generals were killed with the President, which I totally ripped apart as something that has no credibility of actually happening, was filmed in Toronto, Canada, I bet by people involved with this syndicate.

Just a reminder of the interview:
rachel wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 8:36 pm Why was the Polish government delegation flying to Smolensk onboard a single aircraft?


Wykleci channel, Published: 4 Feb 2013

On April 10, 2010, Polish Government military aircraft, Tupolev Tu-154M crashed under mysterious circumstances near Smolensk Russia. One of the most puzzling questions surrounding this mysterious crash, concerns the reasons why the entire Polish government delegation flew to Smolensk onboard a single aircraft? Magdalena Merta, the "Smolensk Widow" explains the reasons why.

Synopsis: January 12, 2013, Toronto, Canada. The wife of the late Deputy-Minister of Culture Tomasz Merta: "What I am about to tell you now, are suspicions - and not even my own - but, rather the (suspicions of the) individuals in the inner-circles of the Polish military... I heard a statement that was made - but, I am not taking any responsibility for how credible, or not credible it is. (I heard that) had the generals and journalists' not been re-assigned to different aircraft, it wouldn't have been the Tupolev Tu-154M, but rather the Casa transport aircraft that would have been taken out.

Because the Generals were no longer onboard the Casa, there was no reason for it to get airborne. And for this reason it was the Yak-40 that flew off to Smolensk. This Casa transport aircraft was never examined in any way. It was not subject to any examination. Aside from a single note in the deposition given to the military, no one was interested why this aircraft didn't fly to Smolensk. Perhaps, this is someones crazy phantasy, but perhaps it isn't.

Some Polish military personnel had suggested, that the Casa had to stay behind at the Okecie military tarmack, so that the explosives could be removed from it - because they were no longer needed. I am only repeating what I was told."

As I said, there are pictures of Daniel...is that a code name, as we've already had in this thread Danny, Danny, and now Daniel...with Charlie. So they do seem to have been filming in a group. Example.

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And on the Silsa Productions Ca website, we do see INTO THE FIRE listed.

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Daniel makes the point in his Canadian accent witness testimony, that the black police car seen being smashed up looks like it was a set up. The point he is trying to sell is police entrapment by use of agent provocateurs. Yet he makes no comment about the amount of young people taking pictures at the event with proper cameras, dressed like they'd been briefed ahead of time about what to expect. Why is he only giving us a particular framing of certain facts about what is seen in the available footage?

As mentioned, Danny Dicks is apparently Canadian, as is Daniel Libby. Now I say apparently, because I know Daniel Libby is an alter ego for someone else who is not Canadian. I recognise him, and it's fascinating, because earlier I highlighted on Charlie's acting bio, one of the accents he listed was Canadian. Hmm. We can kind of see why Canada fits. It's basically Britain posing as America.
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Funny old world. So have you guessed who Daniel Libby is yet, because I've given a fair few clues? And just because he made certain decisions ten years ago, it doesn't necessarily mean he is totally on the dark side. But I think it is good to be aware of these people's real past. I mean, PRISON PLANT was front and centre with the problems in the official Polish Plane Crash story. But also, it was one of the first, along with INFOWARS, to promote and share the Andrei Mendierej video which purports to show survivors from the Polish plane crash being shot dead by Russian secret army personnel. I've proved that claim to be utter nonsense even though the narrative lingers. The video is an edited manipulation of real video taken at the staged site, but there was no actual crash.

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Prison Planet's Paul Joseph Watson

What a whippersnapper in the first picture. But you can see the difference a prosthetic hair piece and forehead makes to someone's looks. I would suggest neither image is an accurate likeness of the person playing the characters; and equally, both British and Canadian accents might be fake, but I still place Daniel Libby AKA Paul Joseph Watson hailing from the UK over Canada.
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