The long-running Antarctic hoax
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Re: The long-running Antarctic hoax
i like him staring at a white blob map ,ooh the detail ,avoid the volcano
What is the myth about Mount Erebus?
Mt. Erebus – Antarctica - Atlas Obscura
It's a good name for the volcano. In Greek myth, Erebus was the son of the god Chaos, and his mother was Gaia or Earth. Erebus was made of darkness and shadow, and he filled the corners of the world with his darkness. Currently, the most active volcano in Antarctica and the southernmost active volcano on Earth,
What is the myth about Mount Erebus?
Mt. Erebus – Antarctica - Atlas Obscura
It's a good name for the volcano. In Greek myth, Erebus was the son of the god Chaos, and his mother was Gaia or Earth. Erebus was made of darkness and shadow, and he filled the corners of the world with his darkness. Currently, the most active volcano in Antarctica and the southernmost active volcano on Earth,
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Re: The long-running Antarctic hoax
A blog from someone allegedly at the South Pole station:
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https://brr.fyi/aboutDuring 2022-2023, I deployed to Antarctica to work on IT projects. This was my first year on the ice.....
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Is there Internet?
Yes, but it’s slow. Everything is over satellites, with limited bandwidth. I had web access, I could make outgoing phone calls, and of course there’s this silly blog.
Internet access at the South Pole is only available for part of the day, based on satellite visibility.
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Re: The long-running Antarctic hoax
i remember during the flat earth hangouts ,antonio subirats had a regular guest who also worked in aantarctica,doomweaver 2000 i think he was called ,i was like a sponge back then ,i think the flat earth revelations was a fanatstic period
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very interesting, napoleon. the majority of people at these antarctic stations are not scientists, when you step back and look crically, for all the alleged 'science' going on at the numerous, duplicated stations the costs surely don't stack up.
obviously a lot more at the alleged interior stations - Scott [s.pole] vostok and concordia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concordia_Station
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vostok_Station
are they all doing the same 'science'? surely it's all the same stars and galaxies the see?
Most of the online videos show the cast of residents [thousands of $$$ per annum] having fun, working out, eating ir watching penguins.
these vids from the "south pole" are more interesting, discussing the alleged communication systems involving military satellites [hmmmm] and an
interview with the head of 'science' at Scott-Amundsen
how living at the south pole works [2021]
Meet Sasha, the Lead Scientist at the South Pole Station! [2022]
NASA, the ISS, space, antarctica, [admiral] birds of a feather,,,
of course you allegedly can't do anything else in antarctica apart from 'science' - there must be so many different experiments to perform by 'scientists' from so many different countries, I hope they're not duplicating anything at 'thousands of $$ per person per year,...
https://www.quora.com/How-much-money-is ... do-Stationit's estimated that the annual cost of supporting one person at McMurdo Station can be in the range of hundreds of thousands of dollars.
obviously a lot more at the alleged interior stations - Scott [s.pole] vostok and concordia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concordia_Station
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vostok_Station
are they all doing the same 'science'? surely it's all the same stars and galaxies the see?
Most of the online videos show the cast of residents [thousands of $$$ per annum] having fun, working out, eating ir watching penguins.
these vids from the "south pole" are more interesting, discussing the alleged communication systems involving military satellites [hmmmm] and an
interview with the head of 'science' at Scott-Amundsen
how living at the south pole works [2021]
Meet Sasha, the Lead Scientist at the South Pole Station! [2022]
NASA, the ISS, space, antarctica, [admiral] birds of a feather,,,
of course you allegedly can't do anything else in antarctica apart from 'science' - there must be so many different experiments to perform by 'scientists' from so many different countries, I hope they're not duplicating anything at 'thousands of $$ per person per year,...
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That xfiles is clueless I calculate in, but Ab you should be smarter.
A former colleague of mine has done fieldwork on Antarctica. I shared the map he coproduced many times and I have personally seen the photos he took there.
and then taking this total nonsensical Daily Fail image:
![Image](https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/05/17/16/85007997-13429229-image-a-320_1715959602857.jpg)
No, Russia did NOT "find oil", because in order to make such claim you have to drill wells and that is VERBOTEN in Antarctica. At maximum they could have shot seismic (which I believe is also illegal under the Antarctic Treaty) and then make interpretations and estimates and models, but that is NEVER the same as "finding oil" and not precise either.
the legend with this map speaks of "in billions of barrels" and then on top of that lists more billions.
It is impossible to estimate oil reserves based on no data, so this "500 billion barrels" is a figure just pulled out of Putin's pothole...
The absolute max that could have happened is that this "polar explorer ship" has observed oil slicks coming from the seabottom. But that
1) is only evidence of an active petroleum system, does not say anything about the size of the possible fields
2) can also be evidence of a failing, not sealing enough, petroleum system, as was the case in one of my study areas with lots of oil slicks
You make yourself look SO silly with this Hans Wormhole nonsense of suggesting that a place "does not exist" while you and me CAN EVEN VISIT it. And then pushing some Daily Fail total nonsense as indicative of anything....
If "Fakeology" has nosedived to these levels, I will not wear that moniker ever again.
I am here for serious and insightful research, not this nonsense...
of course Antarctica exists, you can visit it. And if you're brave you sail there yourself.This """article""" assumes many things, starting with the fact that there is even an Antarctica.
The scramble for Antarctica’s black gold: How Russian discovery of huge oil reserves in UK territory has made Falkland Islands the ‘world’s most valuable real estate’… with Putin and Xi eyeing treasure under frozen seas
Source: The scramble for Antarctica’s black gold: How Russian discovery of huge oil reserves in UK territory has made Falkland Islands the ‘world’s most valuable real estate’… with Putin and Xi eyeing treasure under frozen seas | Daily Mail Online
A former colleague of mine has done fieldwork on Antarctica. I shared the map he coproduced many times and I have personally seen the photos he took there.
and then taking this total nonsensical Daily Fail image:
![Image](https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/05/17/16/85007997-13429229-image-a-320_1715959602857.jpg)
No, Russia did NOT "find oil", because in order to make such claim you have to drill wells and that is VERBOTEN in Antarctica. At maximum they could have shot seismic (which I believe is also illegal under the Antarctic Treaty) and then make interpretations and estimates and models, but that is NEVER the same as "finding oil" and not precise either.
the legend with this map speaks of "in billions of barrels" and then on top of that lists more billions.
It is impossible to estimate oil reserves based on no data, so this "500 billion barrels" is a figure just pulled out of Putin's pothole...
The absolute max that could have happened is that this "polar explorer ship" has observed oil slicks coming from the seabottom. But that
1) is only evidence of an active petroleum system, does not say anything about the size of the possible fields
2) can also be evidence of a failing, not sealing enough, petroleum system, as was the case in one of my study areas with lots of oil slicks
You make yourself look SO silly with this Hans Wormhole nonsense of suggesting that a place "does not exist" while you and me CAN EVEN VISIT it. And then pushing some Daily Fail total nonsense as indicative of anything....
If "Fakeology" has nosedived to these levels, I will not wear that moniker ever again.
I am here for serious and insightful research, not this nonsense...
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Yes, that's your problem, you don't come with anything, it's just babbling about something that you cán actually check out.
But I understand that it's much easier shouting things than taking the time to come with points in favor of your stance.
Realology, you get JLB points for that, enjoy them, you have an ally!
But I understand that it's much easier shouting things than taking the time to come with points in favor of your stance.
Realology, you get JLB points for that, enjoy them, you have an ally!
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Let's go on a tour of Antarctica. No, not the coastal stations.
Concordia Station, a joint French-Italian venture. aka Dome C. opened 2005
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concordia_Station
But "on this spot" some time earlier...[again chosen very carefully no doubt]
https://www.bas.ac.uk/project/beyond-epica/
Just so you know where we are, they've kindly made a sign for the postal delivery at Little Dome C, 50km distant from the Mother Dome C
Concordia Station, a joint French-Italian venture. aka Dome C. opened 2005
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concordia_Station
How did they decide to site the station where it is. "ok mes amis, I think we've come 1100km so far, I think we'll build it here. No problem with Russian neighbours or wildlife. Seems perfect.It is located 1,100 km (680 mi) inland from the French research station at Dumont D'Urville, 1,100 km (680 mi) inland from Australia's Casey Station and 1,200 km (750 mi) inland from the Italian Zucchelli Station at Terra Nova Bay. Russia's Vostok Station is 560 km (350 mi) away. The Geographic South Pole is 1,670 km (1,040 mi) away. The facility is also located within Australia's claim on Antarctica, the Australian Antarctic Territory.
https://www.bmj.com/content/338/bmj.b2453Transport to the base is either by a four hour flight from one of the coastal stations or by overland crossing from Dumont d’Urville, which takes about 12 days.
suuuure.Concordia station has been proposed as one of the real-life Earth-based analogues for long-duration deep-space missions
out of all the other 14 million square kilometers of Antarctica. Suuuure. Better than the Russians'?Concordia Station has been identified as a suitable location for extremely accurate astronomical observations.
But "on this spot" some time earlier...[again chosen very carefully no doubt]
More recently 2016-2019, a new Dome C 50km [why so?] away from Dome C was constructed for further ice core drillingIn the 1970s, Dome C was the site of ice core drilling by field teams of several nations. In the 1990s, Dome C was chosen for deep ice core drilling by the European Project for Ice Coring in Antarctica (EPICA). Drilling at Dome C began in 1996 and was completed on December 21, 2004, reaching a drilling depth of 3270.2 m, 5 m above bedrock
We feel that the clue to the change in glacial frequency lies in the greenhouse gases in the atmosphere, so a team of European scientists intend to drill another ice core that we hope will reach back 1.5 million years.
Candidate sites for the ‘Oldest Ice’ drilling project have been chosen using ice sheet modelling, but need field observations to confirm and select the best site. We will deploy our Rapid Access Isotope Drill (RAID) at candidate sites near to Dome C to recover ice back to the last glacial period to confirm age-depth models...
I can't find any published work from Little Dome CResearchers from BAS are surveying a site – Little Dome C – which is 50 kms away from the French-Italian Concordia Station at Dome C
BAS Ice coring scientist Dr Robert Mulvaney will undertake the site survey at Little Dome C
18 Dec 2017
https://www.bas.ac.uk/blogpost/science- ... le-dome-c/
https://www.bas.ac.uk/project/beyond-epica/
Just so you know where we are, they've kindly made a sign for the postal delivery at Little Dome C, 50km distant from the Mother Dome C
![Image](https://www.bas.ac.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/Mulvaney-4422-Little-Dome-C-site-736x487.jpg)
sounds very dangerous, but NDNGH in the process.We have three vehicles to pull all our science equipment and living spaces 50 km across the ice to Little Dome C – two Pisten Bullys (snow groomers in the Alps) and a Caterpillar tractor. We carry 10,000 litres of fuel for the vehicles, and for the main generator in the caboose, in a large steel tank.
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Japanese Dome F for Fuji station
Not to be outdone, the Japanese established Dome F about 1000km inland from their coastal Syowa station
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dome_F
it was decided upon, being an "exceptional" site for astronomy, one of the coldest places on earth.
Norway has the claim to this sector of Antarctica. Wikipedia says that the base closed in 2019 without reference
In January 2019 we read
https://greenland.net/windsled/domefuji ... ry-in-ice/
![Image](https://greenland.net/windsled/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Antarctica_95_DomeFujiStation-470x260.jpg)
Your local map of Antarctica...
![Image](https://www.bas.ac.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Beyone-Epica-map1-736x572.jpg)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dome_F
it was decided upon, being an "exceptional" site for astronomy, one of the coldest places on earth.
This is a robotic station.F, also known as Dome Fuji, is the second-highest summit of the Antarctic plateau, at an altitude of 3,810m.
[PLATO-F was taken to the Japanese inland station at Dome F by the 52nd JARE expedition in late 2010, by a 1000km traverse over a period of two weeks.PLATO-F is an evolution of the original PLATO experiment that began operation at the Chinese Kunlun station at Dome A in January 2008.
Norway has the claim to this sector of Antarctica. Wikipedia says that the base closed in 2019 without reference
In January 2019 we read
sounds very expensive for a few ice cores, and very dangerous.At present, to open Dome Fuji Base, each southern summer season, it is necessary to take around 1100 tons of cargo and fuel, including the support supplies for the Antarctic operations, which begin from the vicinity of the Syowa base. It is a journey that takes place with motorized snow vehicles and that, due to the sastrugi, takes about three weeks of travel.
https://greenland.net/windsled/domefuji ... ry-in-ice/
![Image](https://greenland.net/windsled/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Antarctica_95_DomeFujiStation-470x260.jpg)
Your local map of Antarctica...
![Image](https://www.bas.ac.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Beyone-Epica-map1-736x572.jpg)
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And finally, we come to the Russian station of VOSTOK. = East.
It's the coldest place on earth, apparently. "Vostok Research Station is around 1,301 kilometres (808 mi) from the Geographic South Pole, at the middle of the East Antarctic Ice Sheet." It's also 1400 km from the coast.
What do they do there? They drill ice cores of course.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vostok_Station
![Image](https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alexey-Ekaykin/publication/258663657/figure/fig1/AS:297605306306565@1447966042647/Map-of-Antarctica-showing-the-location-of-Vostok-station_Q320.jpg)
Above is the site of the station, openedin 1957, but a vast replacement assembled on land in St. Petersburg has been transported to Vostok to replace the old station which was becoming buried by snow. The initial journey in 2020 was aborted in pantomime fashion. [see bottom link, Trouble at Vostok Station] Can we believe that?
https://www.rgo.ru/en/article/three-mod ... antarctica
15 scientists do science here all year, double that in antarctic summers.
Back in the 50s I guess the Soviets must have driven around hundreds and hundreds of kilometers to see when their thermometers were at their lowest and said, hey, let's build here.
And build they did there, allegedly
![Image](https://e-cis.info/upload/iblock/340/rmm369s694j08jqw1g0w1a3yk7rndjvz.jpg)
https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/157140/
[source]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Vostok
Well, what luck just finding this under the property you developed in 1957!
non-fun fact:
Who's paying for the new station?
It's the coldest place on earth, apparently. "Vostok Research Station is around 1,301 kilometres (808 mi) from the Geographic South Pole, at the middle of the East Antarctic Ice Sheet." It's also 1400 km from the coast.
What do they do there? They drill ice cores of course.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vostok_Station
![Image](https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alexey-Ekaykin/publication/258663657/figure/fig1/AS:297605306306565@1447966042647/Map-of-Antarctica-showing-the-location-of-Vostok-station_Q320.jpg)
Above is the site of the station, openedin 1957, but a vast replacement assembled on land in St. Petersburg has been transported to Vostok to replace the old station which was becoming buried by snow. The initial journey in 2020 was aborted in pantomime fashion. [see bottom link, Trouble at Vostok Station] Can we believe that?
21 April 2023To ensure the construction of the new complex, 19 caravans of sleds and snow groomers successfully travelled along the “Progress”–“Vostok” route from November 2022 to February 2023. More than 3,100 tons of construction cargo and fuel were delivered to the station, 98 wintering polar explorers and seasonal specialists were brought.
The new airfield at the “Progress” station made it possible to quickly deliver cargo and a construction and installation crew to Antarctica. A team of 90 polar mechanics-drivers worked to equip the “Vostok” station with everything necessary. 45 pieces of equipment participated in the transport operations, including 40 “Polar-300” transporters and five “Caterpillar” tractors.
https://www.rgo.ru/en/article/three-mod ... antarctica
15 scientists do science here all year, double that in antarctic summers.
Back in the 50s I guess the Soviets must have driven around hundreds and hundreds of kilometers to see when their thermometers were at their lowest and said, hey, let's build here.
And build they did there, allegedly
![Image](https://e-cis.info/upload/iblock/340/rmm369s694j08jqw1g0w1a3yk7rndjvz.jpg)
https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/157140/
[source]
aha, the Brits! But drilling into this lake [Vostok] has opened up another can of worms about its contamination by the act of drilling into it. Was it there [simple life forms] or did the drilling contaminate the lakeWhen British scientists in Antarctica performed airborne ice-penetrating radar surveys in the early 1970s, they detected unusual radar readings at the site which suggested the presence of a liquid freshwater lake below the ice.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Vostok
Well, what luck just finding this under the property you developed in 1957!
non-fun fact:
so we're told.in 1982, a short circuit in the electrical wiring caused a fire to break out, destroying one of the station’s diesel generators and killing one of the polar explorers.
Who's paying for the new station?
source - https://meduza.io/en/feature/2020/12/22 ... ok-stationOne of the richest people in Russia, billionaire businessman Leonid Mikhelson — the board chairman of the Russian gas company Novatek, — invested about four billion rubles (approximately $53.3 million today) in the Vostok Station’s construction, calling it a “personal project.”