The Hollow Towers - A Potemkin Village

[napoleon]

What are you thinking about, regarding live?

In one sense, it is actually amazing, that no one ever discusses miniatures, I mean even to dismiss them. Actually, when you realise it, it's like "Woe! How is this missing from the conversation?"


Every Explosion In Thunderbirds

gnight truthseekers ,im going to bed tomorrows another day ,gaia keep the music low please

[napoleon]

before i go

this is timebandits ,the boys bedroom toys and imagery make the dream he has ,same as dorothy in oz yeah ?

so when i show these images of 911

and you find out the operation to fund ozama bin laden was called cyclone ,or they used night vision green imagery to into his hideout the emrald city ,you wanna ask why the masons in the fakeologist get to ignore their own cult ,honestly youve got a website full of masons who pay the truthers to talk shite

watch rob agers video and ask yourself did the director of brazil another 911 movie tell us any truths ,the answer is yes

[rachel]

Dedicated to Jim Rizoli and Judy Wood.

The two pictures I know of where the towers look hollow as mentioned in the testimony link above. I'm not sure if it's a visual effect or really showing light passing through, though the sunlight does look like it's coming from behind the towers.

I've looked at this image a number of times, and today I see something I'd not noticed before. We are seeing the cranes on tall platforms through the tower structures, the rest is fresh air.

Inside the lobby, and an idea how it fits with the building layout.

[xileffilex]

Some good comments on this Australian forum
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/ ... 1.1240304/

The OP does a good job defending against the trolls.

[napoleon]

im sure an expert could decipher where to put what charges and take into acount they were probably massively under constructed floors etc etc ,and from that one could extrapolate how much of the outer steel structure would be left

but with what we see they disappear before the hit the ground ,so you can't show the legitimate rubble pile or collapse

[napoleon]

so lets give the wicked witch of the west a call to explain the collapse .don't forget your wand

[SaiGirl]

Just reposted by fakenukesphil, and destined to be a classic.

Note the passing mention of a likely "stand down by NORAD" at the Pentagon (the fictional "Flight 77").

Hollow Towers With Phil Jayhan And Larry McWilliams. Nobody Died On 9/11

[rachel]

From the video in the last post, the first interviewer, Phil, mentioned a 911 forum.

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Interesting little snippet from The B-Thing by Gelitin website, when considering the building photos.

from
Robins, Anthony, "The World Trade Center",
Omnigraphics, Inc. and Pineapple Press, Inc, 1987

(...) the tower windows, similar to the narrow windows in Yamasaki´s Michigan Gas Company Building in Detroit, were narrow for the same reasons. With floor to ceiling windows. Yamasaki felt comfortable only if the window width was narrower than his own shoulder span. According to the Roths, Yamasaki had a full-scale model of the window in his office, and by way of demonstration pushed Malcolm Levy into it; Levy´s shoulder stuck. (...)

minoru yamasaki

Look at the corrosion on the structure on these maintenance pictures. If it was a sealed space, why would this happen? It suggest the framework was open to the elements. Was the construction designed in such a way there were no windows installed on unused floors? Is this actually why the floors around the skylobby levels had a different look to them externally? If there were no windows in the first instance on other floors, then there was a real reason for Minoru Yamasaki's concern regarding people falling out.

First three photos listed as: "Offices in 83 fl on south tower".

We can see the corrugated sheets in the construction photos, it looks like they used temporary wooden planks on the floor they were working on, later to be replaced with concrete when the floor was to be finished. And that's also when it got its windows.

A better look at the structure, those metal sheets and wooden planks.

This might also help to explain the Gelitin window stunt. The pictures were taken on a floor that didn't have windows, so they didn't have to remove anything. It also explains the second photo, the harness we see one of the guys wearing and the rope attachment hanging down. It also puts into context why they look so apprehensive about getting too close to the window space.

Also, there is something off with that right hand window in the last two photos. It's either been added as a composite to hide the real window, else, it's a picture of a window over the actual window space. We can see it has no depth, no thickness to the wall, no outside structure. See the tags at the top of the right hand window in the image below.

It's hard to tell what's real and not real. Could just be a paste-up, though I suspect the fakery that is clearly visible on the previous two photos is an optical illusion rather than something done in post-production. They seem to have a need to follow a code of practice in producing their work. This stuff is never random.

[rachel]

An interesting one regarding the idea of no windows...not that this person makes this assertion, he has the ideas of people removing windows prior to the morning's events. But if the floors were never used, so windows never added, well, no worries about broken glass. I think it's a goer, because I've always thought since the idea of Aaron Dover's "no floors", the towers are just a reinterpretation of the Eiffel Tower, and most of that structures is windowless, but there are some at certain levels.

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Original link @911crashtest.org:​
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Window-people and the windowpanes​
Published by Steve De'ak on November 11, 2022

The people seen hanging out of the windows on 9/11, and the jumpers, are a sensitive subject for everyone, truthers and true believers alike. There are basically two camps of beliefs:

1. Those who believe the jumpers (whom I refer to as, “fallers”), and the people seen hanging out of the windows (window-people), were real office workers.
2. Those that believe they were nothing more than Computer Generated Images (CGI).

In my experience there is a direct correlation between whether or not someone believes the jets were real jets (reinforced, or not), and the belief that the fallers and window-people were real office workers. Hologram believers fall into this camp. There is also a correlation between whether or not someone believes the planes were CGI, and the belief that the people were also CGI (everything was fake). To make matters even more interesting, once someone adheres to believing one camp or the other, no number of facts and evidence will change that belief. But I’m going to give it a whirl anyway.

In my opinion, the evidence indicates the videos of the window-people are genuine (not CGI). They were real people hanging out of the windows of the North Tower. But they were certainly not real office workers. They were, in all likelihood, operatives for the intelligence services who were tasked with putting on a show for the local crowd and the TV audience to support the belief that the Twin Towers were fully occupied office buildings, and that almost 3000 people perished in them when they collapsed. The deaths are important to the perpetrators (the military, industrial, congressional complex) because without the loss of life it is difficult to justify the ensuing invasions and occupations. That is not to say the operatives were sacrificed. Although some may have taken a wrong turn and became fallers the evidence indicates they arrived en masse shortly after the shock and awe explosion, pushed out quite a few windows, waved at the cameras for a while, and then left shortly before the collapse of the North Tower.

Recently, I was shown this clip from a viewer, outraged at me for denigrating the memory of the dead. It was given as proof the window-people were there at the time of the collapse. But it isn’t. In fact, it proves just the opposite. The window-people were gone, see for yourself.

No people seen in the windows of the North Tower Collapse

It shows the same area where the groups of people were last seen:

Source for the above screenshot:

NY1 OnAir plus 5 Raw 11 - people hanging out of the windows of the North Tower on 9/11/2001


The photographic evidence indicates the people showed-up shortly after the shock and awe explosion. But they were gone by time of the collapse. The official story goes, the elevators and stairs were damaged by the jet crash and blocked by fires, thereby trapping the doomed window-people, who were working in their offices, or at the restaurant, above the crash zone. Unable to breathe, naturally, they went for the windows.


But, about those windows.​

The Austrian (not Israeli) art troupe, “Gelitin,” allegedly removed a window as a performance art stunt, and it was written about in the New York Times, so you know it has to be true:

• “After weeks of planning, he said, one night Gelatin…waited in the studio until dawn. At the appointed moment, the four, wearing harnesses, unscrewed the aluminum moldings that hold the window in place, and used two large suction cups to remove the glass (air pressure adds about 300 pounds to the effort).
  
  “Other artists in the studio have heard rumors of the balcony, but most are dubious. “I can tell you that it never happened,” said Geoffrey Detrani, who’s space was next to Gelatin’s. “To remove a window would be a pretty serious structural breach.”
  
  “Removing the window may have been dangerous, but according to Walter Friedman, the owner of Dependable Glass, which performs that service for the World Trade Center, it is not that difficult. All it takes is four guys, some readily available equipment – and nerve, Mr. Friedman said.”

Gelitin NYT (markdotzler.com)


The B Thing – looking out a window:


Hanging out, while sitting on the heater below the windows:

Here are some shots from the Lower Manhattan Cultural Council (LMCC), which hosted the space where Gelitin had its studio in spring of 2000. Voila! The “Modern Marvel!”

The windows were narrow, and positioned above the heater. For perspective, the measurement of the room from finished floor to finished ceiling was 8 feet.

Ceilings were taller and window spacing was wider for the Windows on the World Restaurant, as seen below:

From the descriptions of the Gelitin article, and from the look of the windows from the inside, they would be difficult to break, but nearly impossible to remove without the right tools and manpower. Reports were that on 9/11, the people were able to break the windows, but the videos show people standing in narrow window frames with no sign of broken glass.

The smaller glass panes weighed 80 lbs, and withstood some of the strongest wind gusts Manhattan had to offer – for 30 years. Below are some images from the 1993 bombing of what broken glass might look like, although to me, it looks more like cut plastic than a broken window. I can tell you, if I had 20 lbs of broken glass above me, I wouldn’t be sticking my head out the window. But that’s just me.

Here is an example of broken glass from 9/11, bottom middle of the below clip:

WABC Dub1 19 - Broken glass -


The glass is a big deal. The absence of broken glass around the window-people indicates the panes were removed in one piece.

• ‘I could see people waving tablecloths out the windows of what I took to be the restaurant.’

— Michael Lomonaco, Chef from “Windows on the World” restaurant, on what he witnessed before the Twin Towers collapsed ~source


If this person waving the tablecloth was an employee of the restaurant, how did they get that window out? And, isn’t that more like a towel than a tablecloth?

Notice the absence of broken glass in the huge window opening:

If it took four men to remove a smaller window, how many would it take to remove one of the big ones?

In this clip from Cindy Weil, watch as whole panes fall from the same window frames that will soon be crammed full of doomed office workers. It would have been messy to stage such a scene with broken windows.

Cindy Weil 04 pushing out window panes and paper


Jim Huibregtse footage – look at all the material they were pushing out from the upper floors to clear the way for the window-people. A lot of it doesn’t even look like glass.

Jim Huibregtse clip 3B windowpanes and coverings pushed out


CNN’s perspective shows the same thing.

CNN Dub17 02 window panes come from the same area waver starts waving just before paper falling out


If, as the evidence indicates, the whole WTC complex was a gutted and empty shell that was prepared for destruction by controlled demolition in the usual way, by removing non-load bearing walls and floors, plumbing pipes and the water therein, bathroom fixtures, tile floors, car sized elevator motors, miles of elevator cables, miles of electrical conduit, etc., and interior finishes, so as to expose structural members for the planting of demolition charges, then it stands to reason any legitimate tenants would have been aware of it. Which, of course, means, the window-people could not have been genuine office workers.

The windows must have been prepared to be removed easily when the time was right. I know how audacious this sounds, but it is supported by the video evidence. Cameras were rolling from multiple perspectives capturing the windowpanes as they were being pushed out by the dozen. The window-people were all part of a staged event, designed to terrify and outrage the public into supporting long-planned aggressive wars.

Were they still in the towers at the time of destruction? Not according to the video evidence. This is a critical clue for the truthers who insist everything was fake. If they had full control over their fake set, they would have included the window-people in the collapse videos. And, for the other camp that insists the window-people were real office and restaurant workers, then please explain how they managed to push out so many windows so quickly, and where the people went before the collapse.

I would suggest, the windows we appear to see falling in the Cindy Weil's and Jim Huibregtse's clips are actually the same type of plastic sheets that appear to be visible in the 1993 bombing picture. And that they were primarily installed just prior to the event to keep out the wind and blowback from the smoke machines until such time the people inside were ready to start their performance art piece.