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I was interested in finding out a little more about the tribe of Dan because of its association with the British Isles, thus America. The video below is from a Jewish perspective, it's by Seth Fleishman, and is part of a series of lectures, this one discussing Samson and the movements of the Tribe of Dan.

Biblical Oddities: Samson's Tribe of Dan (Z15F) by Seth Fleishman / World History by a Jew
21 Mar 2021
This lecture is the 13th part of our "Bronze Age Collapse" series and 6th part of our "Samson Mysteries" mini-series. This lecture is a scriptural analysis of the Bible, with a detailed study of Samson and the origins of his tribe: the Tribe of Dan. Both the story of Samson and the background of the Danites do not fit neatly into the normal biblical tradition. We're taking a look at those biblical oddities in this lecture and then will examine the related archaeology in the next video (March 24 release).

Below, on the left a current map, and on the right, a map as the land was occupied during the era of King Saul. Samson apparently hung out around Gaza; Seth has colour coded arrows relating to the verses which describe Samson's movements.

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He's done two earlier lectures about the sea peoples in Canaan. I suspect that might be interesting, because it is invariably port cities feature in hoax events. Recently, Southport...clue in the name; and even Manchester, might be nearer the middle of England, but it is connected to the sea via the Manchester Ship Canal.

These are the settlements of the Canaanites in relation to the tribe of Dan's land; Seth leaves us an interesting question about the Danites...were they even Jews? ...ie, the Samaritans were not classed as Jews because of their mixed ancestry, being only part descended from Abraham.

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Let's just get back to the Baha'is for the time being.

@DonPowell, I haven't formally made a link between Capitalism and transgenderism, mainly because it depends what one means by capitalism... I tend to use the Marxist definition, and I've previously stated an interesting link with the Baha'i Faith.
rachel wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:26 am The next section gets into the occult of it, and how it was possible. Remember we have Karl Marx in 1843 writing, "RELIGION IS THE OPIUM OF THE PEOPLE." and in 1844 we have a young merchant, who we are told was brought up by his uncle after his father's death, declaring he is a messianic figure and performing ritual magic to annul the laws of God.

  • Abstract: The holy books that control the UN underwent two reforms. The first was created by Siyyid Ali Mohammad. He annulled the interpretations of the Qur'an and the Bible through a ritual in Mecca, to implant Bábism which holds the Bayán as the spiritual law.

Siyyid Ali Mohammad is the Báb, whom I've previously discussed, he wrote the Bayán while in prison. It is the central text that gives us the Bábi religion, and from it the Baha'i Faith.

Wiki: Persian Bayan
  • The Persian Bayán was written near the end of 1847 or the beginning of 1848, while the Báb was imprisoned in Maku. The book contains elements of Bábí law, discussion of religious concepts, and the glorification of He whom God shall make manifest. It was one of the Báb's first works in which he clearly states that he is the messianic figure of the Twelfth Imam and the Mahdi which the Shiʻas were expecting. With the claim, he also claimed the abrogation of the Islamic dispensation, and uses the new Bábí law to abrogate Islamic law. The whole book also revolves around the praise of He whom God shall make manifest, promising the coming of a major prophet termed a Manifestation of God; this would be of major importance with Baháʼu'lláh's claim two decades later. Shoghi Effendi considered it a "eulogy of the Promised One", who had abrogated the laws of Islam, and prophesied about the coming of the Baháʼí Faith.

    Unities and chapters
    The book was intended to be composed of nineteen 'unities' each of nineteen chapters, consisting of a total of 361 sections, which had numerical significance, but this was left incomplete and stops in the ninth 'unity'. It was intended to be finished by "He whom God shall make manifest", a messianic figure in the Báb's writings. Baháʼís consider Baháʼu'lláh's Kitáb-i-Íqán as its completion.

    Laws
    Among the main themes of the Bayán are the mystic character of action, the prohibition of causing grief to others, refinement, perfection and the spiritualization of life and language. Baháʼí scholar, Nader Saiedi states that the severe laws of the Bayán were never meant to be put in practice, because their implementation depended on the appearance of He whom God shall make manifest, while at the same time all of the laws would be abrogated unless the Promised One would reaffirm them. Saiedi concludes that these can then only have a strategic and symbolic meaning, and were meant to break through traditions and to focus the Báb's followers on obedience to He whom God shall make manifest. The Báb stresses the importance of the recognition of the symbolic nature and spiritual meaning of each of his laws. In the Baháʼí view, Baháʼu'lláh is regarded as this Promised One. In his Kitab-i-Aqdas, Baháʼu'lláh cancelled specific laws of the Bayan, while confirming others.

It is interesting that in laws of the Persian Bayán, last paragraph above, we get the concept of HATE SPEECH, and the confirmation that it is a form of BRAINWASHING.

It is worth noting, it is after this date we see the first arguments in Britain against the 'Received Text', ultimately leading to Westcott and Hort in 1881 publishing a rewritten New Testament using the same text as the 'Vulgate'; which ALL subsequent English translations of the Bible then use from 1914 (beginning of WWI).

Not only did the Báb and Bábism appear in 1844, but also a number of Christian denominations, such as the Jehovah's Witnesses and Seventh-day Adventists. And why this thread is in EGI, because when Shoghi Effendi allegedly died on a trip to London from Haifa, the chief port of Israel, the London doctor who examined his body could not identify the sex...which of course leads to people speculating he was a hermaphrodite.

https://freebahais.org/shoghi-effendis- ... e-unknown/
Shoghi Effendi’s Death Certificate declares his gender to be unknown

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As can be noticed, the gender of Shoghi Effendi in the certificate has been mentioned as “UNKNOWN”. Looks like the talks going around of him being a eunuch/gay was correct. The person who has shared this has claimed that he has more such eye-opening documents which he would share at appropriate timings. We are eagerly looking forward to it.

(Source: The Caravan Magazine, Vol. 4, Edition 5)

You'll notice on that printout above, it says gender, that is a misdirection. In 1957 on the original document the doctor filled out, it would have stated sex. That's because they didn't live in such a deceiving bastard time as we do now. So, why didn't Shoghi Effendi have a sex? Logically, because he was a corporate fiction...and corporate fictions do not have a sex.
rachel wrote: Sat Jun 11, 2022 8:45 pm 1890 Webster's dictionary:
GENDER is a grammatical distinction and applies to words only. SEX is the natural distinction and applies to living objects.

This is the real reason for the Trans agenda. It has nothing to do with sex organs and everything to do with jurisdiction. It's to fool us into thinking CORPORATE FICTIONS are living entities and that humans can be lawfully controlled by CORPORATE LAW. This is the link between Capitalism and Trans...the Báb was a merchant, and Haifa, the home of the Universal House of Justice, is a port city. Ring any bells with New York?

What sex is this person, at a guess?

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What about this person?

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Apparently they were husband and wife. But which one is which? There are no pictures of the two of them together in the same frame. Why would that be?
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Is the Baha'i Faith a religion, or is it part of a corporate entity? The following proves the Universal House of Justice are just the managers of a business, and the name and logo are part of a corporate identity...therefore they have to go to court to defend it, else lose it.

https://bahaicult.wordpress.com/2021/05 ... ed-symbol/
Baha’i groups in lawsuit over use of name and sacred symbol
May 7, 2021 ~ bahaiworldnews

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Baha’i groups in lawsuit over use of name and sacred symbol
By Manya A. Brachear
TRIBUNE REPORTER

Every religion has been riven by struggles over authority and authenticity.

Buddhism began when a maverick Hindu prince inspired disciples to embrace asceticism. Judaism has sprouted branches from ultra-orthodox to ultra-liberal, even Jews for Jesus. Christianity went through numerous profound splits, including the Protestant Reformation sparked in the 16th Century by Martin Luther in Germany and the 19th Century Mormon movement led by Joseph Smith in the U.S.

Now the Baha’i Faith, the organization representing the most recent sect to spring from Islam, is struggling to defend its identity in federal court in Chicago, where North American Baha’is have been based ever since believers came to the U.S. about 90 years ago. They contend that a tiny band of believers known as the Orthodox Baha’i Faith can’t call themselves Baha’i or use one of its key symbols without violating trademark law or a previous court ruling more than 40 years ago.

In the hands of the federal 7th Circuit Court of Appeals, the case could set a precedent for settling religious schisms, doctrinal disputes and claims to truth.

“The word Baha’i carries with it implications for a certain sets of beliefs—and we have to protect that,” said Robert Stockman, a practicing Baha’i and religious studies instructor at DePaul University.

Adherents of the Orthodox Baha’i Faith believe the international community has strayed from the religion’s original teachings. That deviation, they say, threatens to interfere with God’s plan for the world.

Baha’u’llah, who founded the faith in Iran in the mid-19th Century, is regarded by Baha’is as the most recent messenger of God in a long line including Abraham, Buddha, Krishna, Jesus and Muhammad. Baha’is believe Baha’u’llah revealed God’s plan by which humanity one day would unite to become a single race.

On a Web site called http://www.truebahai.com, the orthodox group faults the mainstream denomination for corrupting that plan.

The mainstream Baha’is have responded with a lawsuit that tries to bar the orthodox from calling themselves Baha’i and sharing the “The Greatest Name,” a sacred and trademarked symbol. Baha’is believe they are not only safeguarding their identity They are defending the truth with a capital T.

The Orthodox say that is not a matter for the courts to decide.

“We’re the true faith. That’s what we would say” said Jeffrey Goldberg, a member of the Orthodox Baha’i Faith who left Chicago to be closer to an Orthodox community in New Mexico. “That has to be decided in the hearts and minds of the Baha’i, not by a secular court order.”

The Baha’is first took breakaway believers to court in 1966 after a tumultuous time for their community. Nine years earlier, Shoghi Effendi, guardian of the faith and direct descendant of the founding prophet, had died unexpectedly and allegedly without naming a successor.

Leaders decided a Universal House of Justice envisioned by Effendi would oversee the faith. But shortly after the leaders announced their solution, one of them declared that Effendi actually had intended for him to serve as the next guardian.

Charles Mason Remey then in his 90s, said Effendi had addressed him in letters as his son or spiritual descendant.

The National Assembly of France and about 100 others followed Remey. But the rest of the Baha’i community declared Remey a covenant breaker, expelled him from the faith and successfully sued his followers, barring them from calling themselves Baha’i and using the sacred symbol. Remey’s group disbanded, but orthodox believers reorganized and continued to maintain the guardianship.

Thirty years later, Goldberg, an active Baha’i in Barrington, came upon the splinter group while surfing the Internet. He became convinced that he had been duped.

With no explanation, Goldberg quietly resigned from the community because he knew the consequences. When Bahai’s are declared covenant breakers, they are shunned or ostracized with the exception of business relations.

But Janice Franco wouldn’t let Goldberg go that easily She insisted on knowing why he left and, when he told her, went on a quest to prove him wrong. After plunging herself into Baha’i literature, Franco discovered Goldberg might have a point.

Indeed, both Goldberg and Franco were declared covenant breakers and shunned. Goldberg’s wife was encouraged to divorce her husband. Franco’s home-schooled children lost a number of friends. To this day they are wary of organized religion.

“It was devastating news to find out the larger group had strayed,” Franco said. “I want to follow the truth. I don’t want to support a mistake. The consequence is I don’t have a community.”

Then in 2006, the mainstream Baha’is filed a lawsuit, accusing the orthodox believers of violating the court order issued 40 years earlier.

In her Barrington home, Janice Franco, a follower of the Orthodox Baha’i Faith, holds an Arabic calligraphy rendering of “The Great One,” a sacred symbol. Mainstream Baha’is don’t want the orthodox group to use the name or the symbol, STACEY WESCOTT/TRIBUNE PHOTO
In her Barrington home, Janice Franco, a follower of the Orthodox Baha’i Faith, holds an Arabic calligraphy rendering of “The Great One,” a sacred symbol. Mainstream Baha’is don’t want the orthodox group to use the name or the symbol, STACEY WESCOTT/TRIBUNE PHOTO

The Orthodox Baha’is insist they aren’t the same group. They also say a religious denomination can’t trademark truth. The term Baha’i refers to a follower of Baha’u’llah. That applies to him and other Orthodox Baha’i, he said.

“From our point of view, if you believe in Christ you can use the word Christ in your name,” Goldberg said. “It’s a little bit like asking you to recant your faith. It’s unacceptable to us.”

But Stockman said it is the religion’s responsibility to protect the Baha’i name.

“Baha’is are told again and again to try to exercise discipline on what they say about their faith and don’t confuse the public…. We have our own community to build,” he said.

There are 5 million Baha’is in the world—150,000 in the U.S., including 2,000 in the Chicago area. Why the mainstream denomination waited four decades to enforce the court ruling is a mystery. Baha’i leaders declined interview requests.

Barring the Orthodox believers from using the name “Baha’i” prevents them from popping up in Google when users type in that term.

Stockman said the Web is a tricky place to have conversations about spiritual truth.

“It’s not our desire to convert people. It’s our desire to put our material out there for people to know what the truth is and decide themselves.”

Source : CHICAGO TRIBUNE | SECTION 1 | MONDAY, MAY 18, 2009
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So continuing from that court case article:

https://bahaicult.wordpress.com/2010/11 ... an-bahais/
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The United States 7th Circuit Court of Appeals affirms the earlier Illinois Court’s (i.e. Judge St. Eve’s) opinion on the Wilmette based US Baha’i NSA’s (National Spiritual Assembly’s) contempt action brought against the Orthodox Bahai faith and Bahais Under the Provisions of the Covenant. The larger Haifan Baha’i organization today officially lost its appeal with the appelate court with the court unanimously finding the arguments put forth by the Haifan US NSA to be completely spurious. Attorney Jeffrey Goldberg has announced on the USENET group talk.religion.bahai that a PDF of the decision will be going up on his site shortly.

A little bit more detail, and again, this is corporate law. A corporate identity has a name, it's name is exact. Any other name similar is not that corporate body, unless that name is also registered to that corporate body. Therefore a ruling against one corporate body cannot be used against a different corporate body...it's how bankruptcy works. You run up a debt via a company; rather than paying the debt you owe, you walk away from the company. The company is liable for the debts, not you. You can then go on and do the same thing again under a different company name.

https://www.truebahai.com/2010/11/appea ... rules.html
November 24, 2010
Appeals Court rules in favor of Orthodox Bahá'ís

The Court of Appeals for the United States Seventh Circuit issued its ruling on November 23, 2010, in the appeal brought by the National Spiritual Assembly of the Bahá'ís of the United States ("Wilmette NSA"). The Wilmette NSA brought the appeal after losing to the Orthodox Bahá'ís in the trial court on the NSA's motion to find the OBF in contempt for allegedly violating the 1966 Judgment entered against the Remey NSA. The trial court found, and the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals affirmed, that the OBF was not legally identified with the Remey NSA and therefore the OBF was not bound by the 1966 Judgment. In effect, the OBF may continue to use the sacred symbols and names of their faith, including the word "Bahá'í" unless and until a court decides otherwise.

For more information: http://www.truebahai.com/court_case.html

And then from that first link: - http://trueseeker.typepad.com/true_seek ... _case.html
A Message from the Guardian to the Bahá’ís of the World: A Warning Call!

A warning call to obey “The Summons of the Lord of Hosts”
by Nosrat’u’llah Bahremand

It was brought to my attention that the illegitimate organization which is headquartered in Haifa and which undeservedly calls itself “the Universal House of Justice”, has recently organized a Web-page and claims that it is the “Official website of the Bahá’í Faith”!

They should have honestly clarified that they meant a version of the Baha’i Faith modified and manipulated by Ruhiyyih Khanum and those former Hands of the Cause who followed her; a faith which repudiates the “Center of the Cause” and does not adhere to the sacred provisions of the Will and Testament of Abdu’l-Baha, a faith that is based on imitation, herd instinct and mind control, and by scare and hate-mongering rhetoric; a version of faith which is compatible with the ill wishes of “The Center of Sedition, the Prime Mover of mischief, Mirza Muhammad Alí,”, by “interpolating and falsifying the words and verses of the Sacred Text,” and consequently they “inflicted a grievous loss upon the true Faith of God,” by ignoring writings of the first Guardian of the Cause of God, especially his Proclamation of 9 January 1951 the only Proclamation during his own life; and opposing the descendant Guardians of the Cause of God.

The bogus organization pretends to be real; to be the same Universal House of Justice revealed in the Kitáb-i-Aqdas and the Will and Testament of Abdu’l Baha, and as mentioned throughout the writings of Shoghi Effendi. They are trying to say that their organization has originated from the Most Holy Book, the Kitáb-i-Aqdas, when in reality this organization has been rooted in the violation of the Covenant by Ruhiyyih Khanum and the former Hands of the Cause who followed her.

They have written:

“In 1951, Shoghi Effendi appointed a number of individuals to an International Bahá’í Council, a forerunner to the Universal House of Justice. In 1961, this appointed Council was reformed as a body elected by all the National and Regional Assemblies then established in the world.

"After Shoghi Effendi’s sudden passing in 1957, his work was faithfully carried on by the group of distinguished Bahá’ís he had appointed as Hands of the Cause of God. These individuals arranged for the first election of the Universal House of Justice."

The International Baha’i Council, so contemptuously mentioned in their writing, was truly an august body, the formation of which was announced by Shoghi Effendi, the first Guardian of the Cause of God, in his proclamation of January 9, 1951, the only proclamation of his lifetime to the Baha’i World. Rebellious Hands of the Cause did not have any authority to “reform” the IBC, which by that term they meant the termination of the Embryo IBC.

Go to full article

What I have found, going the full article, is an interesting section on Israeli law.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nhp ... g=h.gjdgxs
To make their lie less obvious they did not mentioned the name of “this part of the world” Israel, where “a Bahá'í Court in the Holy Land, preliminary to the emergence of the Universal House of Justice” was to be established by the end of the Crusade. Even now, after passage of more than half a century, religious Courts exist in that country.

Courtesy of the Israel Ministry of Foreign Affairs, everybody can now know that the Baha’i Faith is mentioned among the religions which according to the law are allowed to have a religious court:
Religious Courts

While military and Labor courts are not exclusive to the Israeli legal system, the Religious Courts are. The Israeli legal system is unique among modern legal systems in the utilization of various personal status laws in the area of family law, applied by religious courts. This phenomenon has historical and political roots: it existed under Ottoman rule and was retained by the British after they conquered the country.

The basic source for the application of the personal status law and the jurisdiction of the various religious courts is found in the Palestine Order in Council (1922). This order provides that "jurisdiction in matters of personal status shall be exercised... by the courts of the religious communities".

The order also grants jurisdiction to the District Courts in matters of personal status for foreigners who are non-Muslims, stating that they "shall apply the personal law of the parties concerned". Regarding foreigners, this was defined as "the law of his nationality". Case law determined that regarding non-foreigners, "the court ... have... to apply the religious or communal law of the parties".

The Palestine Order in Council recognized eleven religious communities: Jewish, Muslim, and nine Christian denominations. The Israeli government added the Presbyterian Evangelical Church and the Ba'hai to this list. The Knesset also enacted a law vesting jurisdiction in the Druze religious courts.

Reference: https://web.archive.org/web/20130615051 ... ystem.aspx
Also, the information is available in the article written by David Nachmias; “Israel Studies An Anthology: National Government Institutions”
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jso ... hmias.html
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So just going back to this section of the Chicago Tribune article, let's just highlight some key standouts, like the 9 theme, and the French Connection.
rachel wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2024 10:58 pm The Baha’is first took breakaway believers to court in 1966 after a tumultuous time for their community. Nine years earlier, Shoghi Effendi, guardian of the faith and direct descendant of the founding prophet, had died unexpectedly and allegedly without naming a successor.

Leaders decided a Universal House of Justice envisioned by Effendi would oversee the faith. But shortly after the leaders announced their solution, one of them declared that Effendi actually had intended for him to serve as the next guardian.

Charles Mason Remey then in his 90s, said Effendi had addressed him in letters as his son or spiritual descendant.

The National Assembly of France and about 100 others followed Remey. But the rest of the Baha’i community declared Remey a covenant breaker, expelled him from the faith and successfully sued his followers, barring them from calling themselves Baha’i and using the sacred symbol. Remey’s group disbanded, but orthodox believers reorganized and continued to maintain the guardianship.

So we have a guy with the name MASON being sued by the administrative 9 MEMBER group of the UNIVERSAL HOUSE OF JUSTICE, which we've already established via the book Dissipation of the Darkness, is an exact replica of the 9 FOUNDING MEMBERS that created FREEMASONRY. Does this not begin to sound like a massive circlejerk?


Just a reminder of the books claims...
rachel wrote: Wed May 15, 2024 6:26 am DISSIPATION OF THE DARKNESS - History of the Origin of Masonry
https://web.archive.org/web/20221106173 ... e-darkness
  • 9 men original "founders" of Masonry: The King, Herod Agrippa, Hiram Abiud, Moab Levy, Johanan, Antipas, Jacob Abdon, Solomon Aberon, Adoniram and Ashad Abia. The goal of ancient Masonry was solely the preservation of the Jewish religion and the attack on Jesus teaching of Christianity same as attack on religion of Mohammad.

    "It is evident that there were only Jews, and cabalistic Jews, in Masonry's origin" - Bernard Lazare.

    It seems like the Hiram, Moab and the 7 Others were Pharisees who believed and practiced Babylonian Magic and were answerable to the Demonic beings who in turn were answerable to the Satan, the Lucifer. These Pharisees, after realizing that the death (of Juda and ascension of Jesus) didn’t stopped the spread of true religion of Adam, Noah, and Abraham (opposed to their brand of Cabalism), formed a secret society of 9 unknown men.

    Cabala or Kabbalah was a system to learn mystical knowledge (same as Sufism). The basic of this system was Numerology, Astrology, Alphabets, Astronomy and spiritual awakenings of Chakras located in humans. The lowest one or the first one is attributed to physical use of the laws of nature and mastery over the desires of flesh. Spiritually, All demonic forces, low level spiritual worlds like levels of hell and knowledge of Nature’s laws are associated with the Chakra located at the Navel. With the passage of time, knowledge of the higher realms, worlds and powers were lost and the Pharisees became synagogue of Satan, stuck at the lower levels. Instead of being befriended with angels, those Pharisees started to allow Demonic powers (satanic powers) to rule over them. They were not able to go beyond Navel Chakras because flesh or mortal desires overcome them --TARIQ

And a little bit more on Mason Remey...I like the question - "Did Shoghi Effendi Foresee his Early Passing?" - yes of course, because people specifically go to London to fake die. Anyway...

https://en.bahairesearch.org/did-shoghi ... y-passing/
Did Shoghi Effendi Foresee his Early Passing?

Unequivocally and undeniably, yes!



Abstract

The imminence of Shoghi Effendi’s death is a question that can be identified with a little precision in the actions of Shoghi Effendi at the end of his life as the Guardian of the Cause of God. In this article, some of his important letters, his action in forming the embryonic House of Justice and the formation mechanism of the Baháʼí administrative organization have been discussed.


The question as to whether Shoghi Effendi had foreseen his early passing is asked by those Bahá’ís who, in their lack of faith in the indestructibility of the Covenant of Bahá’u’lláh and the immutability of the Will and Testament of ‘Abdu’l-Bahá, have inexcusably never taken the time or made the effort to search for an affirmative answer, which, otherwise, they would have been certain they would find, if they were to undertake a thorough review of the actions taken by Shoghi Effendi and particularly of the historic messages he had dispatched to the Bahá’í World during the latter years of his ministry. Had they retained an unwavering faith in the Covenant and complete assurance that Shoghi Effendi would have remained faithful to every clause of the Will and Testament of ‘Abdu’l-Bahá, their earnest search would have been rewarded and they would have not only unquestionably and conclusively found a clear and undeniable answer to this question but in the process have discovered, even more importantly, the identity of his successor and realized that he had chosen to obscure his identity at the time for the very reason that he had known that his passing was imminent and that it was essential that this frightful prospect be veiled from the believers (and so well, as it tragically turned out, that, upon his passing, the Bahá’í World, not only failed to recognize his successor but came to incredibly believe that the Guardianship of the Cause of God had come to a premature end).

On the other hand, their research need have gone no further than to read Shoghi Effendi’s message, dated 23 November 1951, issued some eleven months following the issuance of his one and only Proclamation of 9 January of the same year in which he had proclaimed in glowing and unprecedented terms his “historic decision marking the most significant milestone in the evolution of the Administrative Order” in constituting “at long last” the International Bahá’í Council—“this first embryonic International Institution”— (an initial and provisional designation in his projected four-fold stage of evolution of this embryonic Universal House of Justice). He had then subsequently and significantly identified, in his message of 2 March 1951, the identity of the permanent President thereof, the eminently distinguished believer, Mason Remey, whose exemplary devotion to the Covenant, and outstanding and unique record of manifold and unsurpassed services to the Cause of God for more than half a century had been repeatedly eulogized by ‘Abdu’l-Bahá during His ministry (as recorded and published at the time in The Star of the West).

All Bahá’ís are certainly still familiar with the fact that Shoghi Effendi had initiated a Ten Year Global Crusade that took place between Ridván 1953 and Ridvan 1963 in implementation of the Tablets of the Divine Plan of ‘Abdu’l-Bahá that involved establishment of the Faith throughout all virgin areas of the world and in which he had assigned specific goals for each of the existing National Spiritual Assemblies to achieve. Whereas the opening years of this Crusade would be carried out under the direction of Shoghi Effendi, himself, his message of 23 November 1951 cited above, significantly stated that this “Master Plan designed by ‘Abdu’l-Bahá will embrace all the continents of the earth, and will bring the Central body [i.e. the International Bahá’í Council] directing these widely ramified operations into direct contact with all the National Assemblies of the Bahá’í world . . . ” now, for the first time, an active role for this supreme body that had been previously retained, of necessity, in an inactively functioning status during the concluding years of Shoghi Effendi’s ministry, for the President of the Universal House of Justice, under the provisions of the Will and Testament of ‘Abdu’l-Bahá, even in its initial embryonic form, could be none other than the second Guardian-to-be (for as ‘Abdu’l-Bahá has affirmed: “the embryo possesses from the first all perfections . . . in one word, all the powers . . . ” (BWF p.313). With the International Bahá’í Council now performing this projected active role, Mason Remey would, as the President— “the sacred head”— of this embryonic Universal House of Justice appointed by Shoghi Effendi, automatically, unquestionably and rightfully inherit the Guardianship. Shoghi Effendi, therefore had clearly prophesied that his passing would take place during the period of the Ten-Year Global Crusade which, in fact, it did at midpoint, on 4 November 1957.

The further fact that in Shoghi Effendi’s appointment of a believer who was almost a quarter of a century older than himself, and notwithstanding was destined to become his successor is further definite evidence that he knew that his passing was near at hand.


Joel Bray Marangella
Australia
December 2008

Reference:
http://www.bahai-guardian.com/foresee.html
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Re: Baha'i movers & shakers

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I found this interesting, because the Baha'i faith, and why I keep banging on about it, is the religion of the United Nations, you know the organisation that has just passed the WHO PANDEMIC PREPAREDNESS TREATY under a different name with nobody voting...that of the PACT FOR THE FUTURE. As I keep saying, it's not Christian, it's Islamic law...stated here as the continuation of SHIA ISLAM, something for me to look up.



An occultist's thoughts on the current state of the Bahá'í faith
29 Feb 2024

To begin, I have to say that I have never been a member of the Bahá'í faith myself, however, lately I have been on a deep dive into the history, teachings and writings of the Bahá'í faith, and I have found it to be an incredibly interesting spiritual system, with so much to offer, as well as a fresh perennial perspective on the established Abrahamic faiths that are spread throughout most of the world today.

I started my research by reading some of the Bahá'í writings, supplemented by some reading from the Persian Bayan. I found Baháʼu'lláh’s works to be full of insight, with a really elaborate and complex emanationist theology, similar to Kabbalah or Neoplatonism, accompanied by a really good regiment of mystical practice, prayer and meditation. His writings, especially the earlier ones, are also written in an eloquent and easily understandable, yet lofty and poetic style.

Since the Bahá'í faith had roots in the Bab’s esoteric interpretations of Islam, all this does make sense. The Bahá'í faith started as a fringe esoteric movement, and this is well reflected in the writings of Baháʼu'lláh. He commonly spends time explaining his position as the Manifestation of God, on the meaning of it and his role in the broader Twelver Shi’ite eschatology.

After learning about this historical information, and after reading some of the writings, I decided to learn more about the faith today. As an occultist and a person interested in broader religious studies, the prospect of a fringe, Sufi influenced movement becoming a worldwide religion was very interesting to me. And after learning more about the Bahá'í faith today, I was left relatively disappointed.

A lot of the deeper mystical food-for-thought aspects of the Bahá'í faith present in the earlier writings seems to have been completely forsaken, in favor of generic statements that seem like little more than a public relations campaign. Instead of theology, most of the modern writings about the Faith primarily focus on proclaiming and parroting vague paroles about “the unity of religion”, “the unity of mankind”, “unity of science and religion”, and similar statements. Usually, nobody goes in depth on any of these points, nobody talks about the meaning of these statements or in any meaningful way explain it beyond “we are the universal religion!”.

From what I gathered, the whole idea about the unity of religion was a relatively minor point in the original Bahá'í writings, especially compared to other laws and topics. In the earlier writings, it is obvious that the Bahá'í faith was supposed to be the continuation of Shia Islam, rather than the more vague notion of it being the “universal religion”. As far as I noticed, these ideas were elaborated on and introduced as important after Baháʼu'lláh’s death by ʻAbdu'l-Bahá, in an effort to make the faith more palatable to a Western audience, who couldn’t care less about Shi’a eschatology.

The issue with this is that all the claims of the faith are based on the idea that Baháʼu'lláh is the Islamic Mahdi. It is the foundation for Bahá'í theology and it all makes very little sense without it. ʻAbdu'l-Bahá also introduced the idea that various Eastern deities and religious figures, such as Confucious, Krishna and the Buddha are Manifestations of God. This is again at odds with the inherently Abrahamic nature of the faith, and it was, from my understanding, the beginning of the downfall of the Bahá'í faith. From that point on, it became more focused on gaining converts in the West as quickly as possible rather than elaborating on Baháʼu'lláh’s teachings, or even more importantly, translating his many writings, most of which are still inaccessible to this day.

Most Baháʼi converts today don’t know a lot about the theology or cosmology of their adopted faith, and they instead reduce the Bahá'í teachings to the level of a COEXIST bumper sticker. The UHJ seems to be actively sabotaging any further translations of the Bahá'í writings, and instead they focus on making books that are parroting the same paroles about some vague notion of unity of all mankind or world peace. The Bahá'í faith is also infiltrated with a lot of New Age ideas, such as Reiki or crystal healing, which seems to serve as a quick substitute for a lack of theological knowledge.

I would say that the Bahá'í faith had the potential to spread a reformed and purified form of Sufi mysticism throughout the world, and I would argue that Baháʼu'lláh’s original teachings were even more tolerant and peaceful than what the UHJ preaches today (for example, endorsing Shogi Effendi’s homophobia). Like Mormonism, it lost its roots due to the focus shifting from staying true to the original goal to proselytizing and PR.

But, these are just some opinions and impressions I gained from my personal research over the last few weeks.

TL;DR- I enjoy Baháʼu'lláh’s original writings and ideas, but I feel like the Baháʼi faith today is not doing its job well in spreading or preserving them.

I'll just throw in a couple of responses, because I found them quite interesting.
I agree with your overall point and esp the comparison w Mormonism. It’s also fair to say Baha’u’llah was influenced by Sufism. But he was just parroting slogans to justify his outsized claims. The secret of the Seven Valleys? Worship Baha’u’llah. The secret of the Iqan? Worship Baha’u’llah. And on and on.

The hallmark of Sufism is following in Muhammad’s footsteps to achieve what he achieved, annihilation of the human self and recognition that you are actually the divine Self playing a role. The hallmark of Bahaullah’s teachings is that he is the divine Self and everyone else needs to bow and scrape before his majesty.
Your analysis is quite on point, and you touched on many interesting subjects. I've been a Bahá'í for many years and have participated in its core administrative body, so I will share my insights about it. The claims of the faith are actually quite grandiose. The Báb is represented primarily as the so-called 12th Imam or the Mahdi, while Bahá'u'lláh is considered the second coming of Christ himself. According to the Quran, both figures are expected to appear at the end of times. In the Bible, as I recall, two trumpets are sounded in the book of John, indicating a similar pattern. In fact, Bahá'ís go even further. The concept of Progressive Revelation implies that God reveals himself in stages as humanity progresses, manifesting through Manifestations of God, also known as Prophets. While in every revelation there is a Major Prophet, akin to a Sun, there are also Minor Prophets, akin to a Moon, since they reflect the same rays of the Sun. The prophets of the Old Testament serve as a good example of this. So, while revelations come one after another, they are also tied by an overarching theme called Cycles. Bahá'ís claim that the Cycle that started with Adam and Eve and continued until Muhammad has ended, and a new Cycle of Fulfillment was inaugurated by the Báb and Bahá'u'lláh, who are considered the Adam and Eve of this new cycle, which will continue for 500,000 years.

Its quite interesting frankly speaking and I can go on and on but I need to mention the points that bother me. The emphasis on Administrative Order, the heavy Bureaucratic mindset, the so called Selfless Service, bunch of meetings (Reflection meetings, Cluster meetings, Prayer Meetings) then you have more meetings on celebrations and 19th day feasts that should include reading of Prayers, Reflection on Writings, Planning, Capacity building and more Capacity building. The same thing over and over and over. God forbid if you are in LSA or NSA or Auxiliary Board Committee or Area Teaching Committee and there are so many committees and agencies and institutions! Children Classes, Junior Youth Groups, Circle Studies and you need to be either a Facilitator, a Teacher or an Animator, plus you can be a Coordinator of a group of these Teachers. What materials are to be used? Your holiest of holies, the Ruhi books that prattles on and on the same old adage about greatness of the vision of Administrative World Order. How it will encompass the whole world and Peace will be but assured. What tools to be used? Statistics! Bahai's love numbers. Especially 9, 19 and 95. Also the bigger the numbers the better. If your numbers on Prayer Meetings are small, just tell the same people to have a Prayer Meeting separately to swell the numbers. When I heard this in my community my eyeballs nearly popped out of their sockets.

Its really a clusterfuck and a clown show i was being a part of for many years.

Did you see the "two trumpets are sounded"? ...Do we think they are running with two terms of Donald Trump?
Thank you!! The administrative tasks, committees, ruhi etc did my head in. Every feast it was statistics statistics statistics how many new joiners, cluster meetings, youth programs per neighbourhood etc. All of that for barely any growth in the community. At that point you should go back to the drawing board because obviously the current way isn't working but nope gotta stick to the 5 year plan and can't go against what the UHJ is pushing us to do in our communities
I agree with most of your post. I also like Baha'u'llah's original teachings but I am disappointed that they are only used today to justify an authoritarian religion.

'Most Baháʼi converts today don’t know a lot about the theology or cosmology of their adopted faith'

It is not just the converts, it is almost everybody.

If you are interested in an alternative vision of the Bahai faith I recommend that you read 'A Lost History of the Bahai Faith'. It is a collection of the writings of the Unitarian Bahais, who stayed closer to Baha'u'llah's teachings.
'The issue with this is that all the claims of the faith are based on the idea that Baháʼu'lláh is the Islamic Mahdi.'

Not exactly. The Bab was supposed to be the Mahdi and Baha'u'llah was said to be the one that is to come after the Bab. He was referred to, especially by Baha'is of Christian background, as the Return of Christ.
The UHJ is indeed notorious for putting out the most useless statements to dull the minds of their own followers. Examples:


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Re: Baha'i movers & shakers

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Some interesting slides in this presentation.

What is the difference between Baha'i Faith and Ahmadiyya Movement?


Both the Ahmadiyya Movement and the Baha'i Faith were founded in the 19th century to reform Islam! The Baha'i Faith, 1863, in Iran and Iraq; the Ahmadiyya Movement, 1889, in the Indian Subcontinent.

The founders of both these 'faiths' claimed themselves to be the 'Awaited Saviour'. They both failed in their mission of establishing the Kingdom of God' on this earth. Today, after more than 150 years these 'faiths' still struggle to make their respective 'faiths' known to others... and retain their followers.

Let's learn more about them, on the left Ahmadiyya, on the right Baha'i...

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Fits with the stated NEW WORLD ORDER?

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NEW-WORLD-ORDER-FRAUD


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The DEBT was PAID-IN-FULL at the CROSS.
The NEW WORLD ORDER is PAGANISM.

PAY-AGAIN-ISM

Rom explains the physical MIRROR...the starting point of the NEW WORLD ORDER...that Jesus Christ is DEAD therefore the debt remains unpaid...humanity are SLAVES.

You know the saying, "be careful what you wish for"...we are told Lucifer wanted to rule as God...God created the Earth. Who does the Bible tell us rules the Earth? Did God therefore grant Lucifer his wish? ...Think about Superman, could Lucifer have presented himself to Eve in that way? ...Instead, the-tree-in-the-midst-of-the-garden revealed the Serpent's TRUE nature. Therefore, the people desiring a GREAT RESET, be careful what you wish for.
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