I am ever so sorry. I am not a good writer and I am not very good at posting. I think I do a good job and then realize that I'm not.
The words in that post aren't mine. I didn't type that. I should have used the quote box.
They are the words in the attached picture and the link.
I was randomly adding someone's commentary on Aaron's post or amateur journalism for the groups he was associated with .
I am very glad something I posted inspired conversation. Please continue the conversation on this thread I'm happy anytime I can do something to contribute to a discussion.
Aaron Dover scraps
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Re: Aaron Dover scraps - History of Suffrage
Apparently there was a more militant faction amongst the suffragettes in Britain, which finally resorted to vandalism, arson and "terrorist bombing" of a Cabinet minister's home.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suffraget ... n_campaign
Whether these events were authentic or fabricated, the suffragette narrative definitely took a darker turn.
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Re: Aaron Dover - 1890s Street Lights
History of photography
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_photography
Just while I was looking at this photography link, I noticed the following
The Market Square of Helsinki, in the 1890s
Some interesting kit. How does the light work, I don't think it's sealed.
See the multiple cables running and the metal box structure in the distance...collecting electricity?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_photography
Just while I was looking at this photography link, I noticed the following
The Market Square of Helsinki, in the 1890s
Some interesting kit. How does the light work, I don't think it's sealed.
See the multiple cables running and the metal box structure in the distance...collecting electricity?
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Re: Aaron Dover - 1890s Street Lights
Look, I just flipped it around.
Its number is 459. We guess that's for reporting a problem with the light. Do we think the numbering system probably started at 001 ?
So we can safely say it's not just one main street lit up. And looking at the construction of the pole, there is no evidence to suggest it would need regular maintenance. It's curious. Found some more pictures.
Market Square, Helsinki
https://berloga-workshop.com/blog/960-m ... sinki.html
There's a boat there, but look at all the seemingly pointless poles all over the place.
And a better look at one of the street lights, definitely wires.
Its number is 459. We guess that's for reporting a problem with the light. Do we think the numbering system probably started at 001 ?
So we can safely say it's not just one main street lit up. And looking at the construction of the pole, there is no evidence to suggest it would need regular maintenance. It's curious. Found some more pictures.
Market Square, Helsinki
https://berloga-workshop.com/blog/960-m ... sinki.html
There's a boat there, but look at all the seemingly pointless poles all over the place.
And a better look at one of the street lights, definitely wires.
Re: Aaron Dover scraps
Aaron Dover was an inspirational researcher. Many of the topics he explored are still untouched by the alternative research community. Electricity, oil, plastics and precious metals were all topics Dover was rather alone in exploring and questioning.
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Its refreshing to listen back at Dover's podcasts and videos - just too bad most of his material is now unavailable. Personally i did save all the links to his YT channel and videos (245) - lol - what was i thinking ? None of the links i saved are working now of course...
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If Dover was "retired" in any way, it might also be because he outside of jew-bashing made very valid points and seemed very invested in his research. Dover clearly made more sense than the truth movement normally produce for their typical venues.
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Its refreshing to listen back at Dover's podcasts and videos - just too bad most of his material is now unavailable. Personally i did save all the links to his YT channel and videos (245) - lol - what was i thinking ? None of the links i saved are working now of course...
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Something that does come up frequently is that researchers espouse a very specific toxic topic and stance all while making a lot of sense on other areas of research. In a way, hanging on to a toxic topic might give room for doing other research without being tracked too closely.
Agree - the manner in which Dover went about disliking the jewish lobby and influence was not great. But other than that, his insight into any topic was really outstanding and unique, especially for the time. And yes, @DonPowell i am really interested in Dover's flat earth research.
Aaron Dover's profile might be a little atypical in that he seems to have been in quite a decent job before going into political activity then conspiracy. Moneywise its hard to beat banking establishments in salary and future earnings.
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If Dover was "retired" in any way, it might also be because he outside of jew-bashing made very valid points and seemed very invested in his research. Dover clearly made more sense than the truth movement normally produce for their typical venues.
The notion of concentricity also relates to flat earth where the path of the sun defines a center, and thus delimits the occupied surface area.DonPowell wrote: ↑Sun Jul 28, 2024 2:50 pm CONCENTRICITY LIMITED 2015-16 - this was dissolved by compulsory strike of. I think that means no annual paperwork was filed or responded to, so it was closed.
In geometry, two or more objects are said to be concentric when they share the same center. Any pair of (possibly unalike) objects with well-defined centers can be concentric
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Re: Aaron Dover scraps
Good to see you back @Unreal.
I didn't come across Aaron Dover until probably only two months after his "death". Don and I were discussing it, and I did a bit of a deep dive into the undertakers his family reportedly used. Even though it has signage, there is no evidence of it being active according to Streetview; the premises are an unsuitable location for a coffin to be loaded or unloaded, and it was empty for at least two years prior to it being a funeral directors. There is no evidence of a hearse or funeral cars at the location in nine years of photos, one each year...that suggests his death is a story.
It's a bit like me discussing Richard D Hall, you'll get a different opinion from me depending on the day of the week. I like a lot of what both say, but there are questions...I can't disagree with any of your sentiment about Aaron Dover, if another ten episodes of Kike Potatoes were suddenly to be discovered, I'd absolutely want to listen to them. And I always thought it's amusing when he describes his experience going to 911 forums and dropping links to his videos only to be banned instantly by everyone.
We think there's lots of people doing independent research, then you have something like the Manchester Hibbert photo and everyone is silent about the elephant in the room. And even when people comment on it they are ignored and no changes the opinion they are pushed. The Richard D Hall videos are a bit of a Truther killer; either Richard really does create all his own content, and he purposely put two versions of the one photo in his video as a curve ball, yet made no reference to the fact; else it's another Associated Press pre-packaged script, and the people talking are pretending to have opinions, and they haven't been given anything to say about the photo, so they say nothing.
And the odd fit with Aaron Dover, before he was a conspiracy theorist, he was a political campaigner and photo-journalist, and that's on top of him being a City Banker for Goldman Sachs. It's an odd mix, and yet it's a very similar bio to Charles Veitch of Conspiracy Road Trip...except rather than being a Jew, he just used to hang around with one.
I didn't come across Aaron Dover until probably only two months after his "death". Don and I were discussing it, and I did a bit of a deep dive into the undertakers his family reportedly used. Even though it has signage, there is no evidence of it being active according to Streetview; the premises are an unsuitable location for a coffin to be loaded or unloaded, and it was empty for at least two years prior to it being a funeral directors. There is no evidence of a hearse or funeral cars at the location in nine years of photos, one each year...that suggests his death is a story.
It's a bit like me discussing Richard D Hall, you'll get a different opinion from me depending on the day of the week. I like a lot of what both say, but there are questions...I can't disagree with any of your sentiment about Aaron Dover, if another ten episodes of Kike Potatoes were suddenly to be discovered, I'd absolutely want to listen to them. And I always thought it's amusing when he describes his experience going to 911 forums and dropping links to his videos only to be banned instantly by everyone.
We think there's lots of people doing independent research, then you have something like the Manchester Hibbert photo and everyone is silent about the elephant in the room. And even when people comment on it they are ignored and no changes the opinion they are pushed. The Richard D Hall videos are a bit of a Truther killer; either Richard really does create all his own content, and he purposely put two versions of the one photo in his video as a curve ball, yet made no reference to the fact; else it's another Associated Press pre-packaged script, and the people talking are pretending to have opinions, and they haven't been given anything to say about the photo, so they say nothing.
And the odd fit with Aaron Dover, before he was a conspiracy theorist, he was a political campaigner and photo-journalist, and that's on top of him being a City Banker for Goldman Sachs. It's an odd mix, and yet it's a very similar bio to Charles Veitch of Conspiracy Road Trip...except rather than being a Jew, he just used to hang around with one.
Re: Aaron Dover scraps
Indeed @Rachel - front figure truthers are rarely exempt of problems. At some level it might even be impossible to actually find anyone prestine when put under scrutiny. Once you start to raise your voice and make something controversial heard, you enter the arena of intelligence agencies whose role it is to govern such places.
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When it comes to Aaron Dover, his sudden death is highly unusual and you've also found elements that strongly suggest nothing seems right about his funeral. If we mix in the press articles of Dover as a pot smoker and interview of his mother,,,
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What we don't know however is the circumstances for the change of direction that clearly took place as Dover was taken off the scene permanently. The lack of exposure on his work and person in the aftermath of his suspicious and sudden death is therefore telling. It seems the message and person is binned and ignored.
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Of course, given the nature of the conspiracy scene - we now know that most of the Aaron Dover research was not picked up at all and left behind altogether. And as we can better gauge at present, some of the topics Dover adressed can now be better understood. We can think of the example of the White Island volcano eruption for instance where Dover's insight about geological forgery is very evident. And the volcano topic was very much left out to dry once more by every conspiracy channel out there - also FAK imo.
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https://x.com/sch/status/1203893996566634496
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So we can deduce that Dover DID bring up subjects that he was not supposed to popularise, such as geological forgery. This does not by itself mean Dover was involuntarily silenced of course, but we have the ingredients of a conundrum. Did Dover leave the scene willingly, or was he forced out ?
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What is not to dispute is that Dover's research was ended, and no other researcher took over any of the subjects Dover championed. In this regard i do find it very valuable to revisit Dover, his material and theories. So if anyone have saved material of his it would be great to bring it back here in this thread for all to share.
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As mentioned in my previous post, hereunder an index from july 2017 of Aaron Dover's YT videos with titles and links. Again, quite naive of me to trust in links,,,!
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https://file.io/gj3WuA6Ad5lF
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When it comes to Aaron Dover, his sudden death is highly unusual and you've also found elements that strongly suggest nothing seems right about his funeral. If we mix in the press articles of Dover as a pot smoker and interview of his mother,,,
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What we don't know however is the circumstances for the change of direction that clearly took place as Dover was taken off the scene permanently. The lack of exposure on his work and person in the aftermath of his suspicious and sudden death is therefore telling. It seems the message and person is binned and ignored.
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Of course, given the nature of the conspiracy scene - we now know that most of the Aaron Dover research was not picked up at all and left behind altogether. And as we can better gauge at present, some of the topics Dover adressed can now be better understood. We can think of the example of the White Island volcano eruption for instance where Dover's insight about geological forgery is very evident. And the volcano topic was very much left out to dry once more by every conspiracy channel out there - also FAK imo.
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https://x.com/sch/status/1203893996566634496
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So we can deduce that Dover DID bring up subjects that he was not supposed to popularise, such as geological forgery. This does not by itself mean Dover was involuntarily silenced of course, but we have the ingredients of a conundrum. Did Dover leave the scene willingly, or was he forced out ?
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What is not to dispute is that Dover's research was ended, and no other researcher took over any of the subjects Dover championed. In this regard i do find it very valuable to revisit Dover, his material and theories. So if anyone have saved material of his it would be great to bring it back here in this thread for all to share.
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As mentioned in my previous post, hereunder an index from july 2017 of Aaron Dover's YT videos with titles and links. Again, quite naive of me to trust in links,,,!
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https://file.io/gj3WuA6Ad5lF
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Re: Aaron Dover scraps
Listening back to "Flat Earth No Floors and Other Kike Potatoes" podcast, Dover insist rather heavily on 911 Truthers not picking up on the WTC design being very specifically executed to harness atmospheric electricity and how the "battery" area of Manhattan was used for just that - storing energy.
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The empty towers has been a big topic and most advanced researchers today probably agree that the WTC floors were few and far between. Optimised for the 911 WTC takedown, and planned over 30 years in advance to this effect.
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Dover strongly disagreed with this stance, and was convinced the WTC North tower with its 110m Antenna spire was why the towers were built at the time - not only to be demolished for the new millenium.
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There is quite a difference in the planning behind 911 if the WTC compound in reality was built as a powerstation, rather than just a prop. It actually makes more sense if the building was producing electricity for 30 years before being replaced by an even higher, more productive tower 13 years later. Maybe with a better battery...
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The fact nobody have really investigated the free energy aspect of 911 is clearly problematic. A little bit like Judy Wood diverted our intention for years with a free energy WEAPON, maybe the perpetrators got this idea for free. Or rather from the free atmospheric energy nature of the WTC Towers.
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WTC North Tower aka One World Trade Center, Tower 1, Building One or 1 WTC
Construction started 1968, Opened in 1970
Roof height 1,368 ft (417m), Spire height 1,728 ft (527m)
Antenna height 110 meters
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One World Trade Center, also known as One WTC and Freedom Tower
Construction started 2006, Opened in 2014
Roof height 1,368 ft (417m), Spire height 1,792 ft (546 m)
Antenna height 139 meters
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The empty towers has been a big topic and most advanced researchers today probably agree that the WTC floors were few and far between. Optimised for the 911 WTC takedown, and planned over 30 years in advance to this effect.
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Dover strongly disagreed with this stance, and was convinced the WTC North tower with its 110m Antenna spire was why the towers were built at the time - not only to be demolished for the new millenium.
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There is quite a difference in the planning behind 911 if the WTC compound in reality was built as a powerstation, rather than just a prop. It actually makes more sense if the building was producing electricity for 30 years before being replaced by an even higher, more productive tower 13 years later. Maybe with a better battery...
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The fact nobody have really investigated the free energy aspect of 911 is clearly problematic. A little bit like Judy Wood diverted our intention for years with a free energy WEAPON, maybe the perpetrators got this idea for free. Or rather from the free atmospheric energy nature of the WTC Towers.
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WTC North Tower aka One World Trade Center, Tower 1, Building One or 1 WTC
Construction started 1968, Opened in 1970
Roof height 1,368 ft (417m), Spire height 1,728 ft (527m)
Antenna height 110 meters
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One World Trade Center, also known as One WTC and Freedom Tower
Construction started 2006, Opened in 2014
Roof height 1,368 ft (417m), Spire height 1,792 ft (546 m)
Antenna height 139 meters
Re: Aaron Dover scraps
As harnessing atmospheric electricity clearly ended in 2001 in regards to the WTC compound, it would be likely some type of replacement to take place in the aftermath of 911.
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Planning for the hiatus period of WTC compound therefore seems likely and there are probably several ways this could be implemented. A good candidate here might be the "One Five One" tower on Times square - finished just in Time 1999.
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4 Times Square aka Condé Nast Building, 151 West 42nd Street or One Five One
Construction started 1996, Opened in 1999 (Durst Organization)
Roof 809 ft (247 m)
Spire 1,118 ft (341 m)
Antenna height 94 meters
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Planning for the hiatus period of WTC compound therefore seems likely and there are probably several ways this could be implemented. A good candidate here might be the "One Five One" tower on Times square - finished just in Time 1999.
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4 Times Square aka Condé Nast Building, 151 West 42nd Street or One Five One
Construction started 1996, Opened in 1999 (Durst Organization)
Roof 809 ft (247 m)
Spire 1,118 ft (341 m)
Antenna height 94 meters