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[DonPowell]

[DonPowell]

[rachel]

We can guess that's not just a bunch of civilian flying those planes...how many flight hours in simulators? The people in the media are paid agitators.

Ron Paul warns that the US military was just “authorized to kill Americans on US soil … I think it’s very, very dangerous.”

Daniel McAdams: “It’s not a law, it’s a DoD Directive. So, this is the administrative state, where they take over, they don’t pass laws.

It’s a DoD Directive that was re-issued September 27, 2024. It governs the Department of Defense intelligence activities, and now includes provisions authorizing lethal force in certain circumstances, and it supplants the 2016 version which did not mention that.”

The DoD Directive is 5240.01, for those who want to read it themselves.

[rachel]

The thread is on 1799, this is the Walter Veith lecture on the Jesuits and their infiltration techniques, it talks about 1798 when Napoleon's army marched in and arrested the Pope, and takes him away in exile.

Walter Veith Sermon - The nine Situations

If the Society of Jesus could conquer though believed dead, could not its
Superior General do the same? When Lorenzo Ricci "died" in his cell at Castel Sant' Angelo on November 24, 1775, what if his "death" was no more physical than the supposed disestablishment of his army? Lesser mystics than Ricci, who secretly commanded the Rosicrucians, were known to die and resurrect at the threshold of important endeavors.

— Rulers of Evil P. 188

DURING the fall of 1775, Congress authorized a committee made up of Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Lynch, Benjamin Harrison and George Washington to consider and recommend a a design for the first united colonial flag. The so-called 'Flag Committee" traveled to Cambridge, Massachusetts. There, according to the only known account of its proceedings, given in Robert Allen Campbell's book Our Flag (Chicago, 1890), the Committee mysteriously shared its authority with a total stranger. This stranger was an elderly European transient known only as "The Professor". He had arrived from parts unknown at summer's end. (The prisoner of Castel Sant' Angelo had not been publicly seen in two years - ample time to manage Braschi's election to the papacy, relax, pack important things, die the philosopher's death, and take a three-month voyage to Boston Harbor). Since his arrival, the Professor had occupied a guestroom in a private Cambridge home whose hostess, "one of his earnest und intelligent disciples," would remember him in her diary (cited in Campbell's book) as "a quiet and very interesting member of the family."

— Rulers of Evil PP. 189.190

IN July 3, 1776, John Adams took pen in hand and dashed off a letter to his wife Abigail, Adams was a writer of Mozartean facility, concentration, and confidence. Everything he ever wrote was first-draft and good. He never struck through words, never edited. His moving hand, having writ, just moved on. "Yesterday," he scribbled, the greatest question was decided which ever was debated in America, and a greater, perhaps, never was nor will be decided among men. A resolution was passed without one dissenting colony, that these United Colonies are, and of right ought to have, full power to make war, conclude peace,
establish commerce, and to do all other acts and things which other States may rightfully do. The second day if July 1776 will be the most memorable date in the history of America.
— Rulers of Evil P. 196

There is a story, usually told in conjunction with the Professor and the Flag Committee , involving another mysterious stranger, one who suddenly appeared in the legislative chamber of the old State House in Philadelphia on the night of July fourth. The moment was tense. Independence had been resolved, but the document lacked signatures. Some were having second thoughts about the risks. Masonic historian Manly P. Hall writes:

• It was a grave moment and not a few of those present feared that their lives would be the forfeit for their audacity. In the midst of the debate a fierce voice rang out. The debaters stopped and turned to look upon the stranger. Who was this man who had suddenly appeared in their midst and transfixed them with his oratory? They had never seen him before, none knew when he had entered, but his tall form and pale face filled them with awe. His voice ringing with a holy zeal, the stranger stirred them to their very souls. His closing words rang through the building: “God has given America to be free!” As the stranger sank into a chair exhausted, a wild enthusiasm burst forth. Name after name was placed upon the parchment: the Declaration of Independence was signed. But where was the man who had precipitated the accomplishment of this immortal task – who had lifted for a moment the veil from the eyes of the assemblage and revealed to them a part at least of the great purpose for which the new nation was conceived? He had disappeared, nor was he ever seen again or his identity established. — Hall, The Secret Teachings, etc. p CLXVIII

— Rulers of Evil PP. 199.200

So how far do the Jesuits date back in America?

Maryland history for example, is grounded in the Liturgical Calendar. We recall how the original settlers of Maryland, many of whom were Roman Catholics, set sail from England, under the spiritual direction of Jesuit father Andrew White on November 22, 1633. November 22 is the Feast Day of St. Cecilia, a third century Roman martyr and traditional patroness of musicians. Did Cecilia's spirit bless the voyage with musicality to cheer up an otherwise oppressive boredom? The voyagers reached landfall the following year on March 25, Annunciation Day, feast of the angel Gabriel's announcement to the Virgin Mary that she is pregnant with the Son of God. Annunciation Day contains the joyful mystery of an angel's announcing the planting of the divine seed within a virgin matrix. Did the settlers imagine themselves planting the seed of a new social order in a strange wilderness, the whole enterprise blessed by God through the merits of the Virgin Mary’s unique relationship to Him? Then, exactly one year later, on Annunciation Day 1634, Father White consecrated the colony of Maryland to the Virgin Mary. The second day of July in the year 1776 was Visitation Day, commemorating the event recorded in the first chapter of Luke wherein the Virgin, pregnant with the Messiah, visits her cousin Elizabeth, who is pregnant with John the Baptist. (Nowadays Visitation Day is celebrated on May 31, but in the year 1776 it was celebrated on July second, as it had been celebrated, according to the New Catholic Encyclopedia’s article entitled “Visitation of Mary,” every year since the Council of Basel in 1441.)

— Rulers of Evil PP. 196.197

The White House is called such because it was the State House of the Jesuit Andrew White, the spiritual director who had prepared the way for this event to take place. And the first flag they decided to adopt was actually a flag of one of the Jesuit trading companies. Which means the flag represented a Jesuit company.

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This next bit is where the Muppet Show thread feeds in, though I didn't have a clue when I made my first post. The thing that started my research into the topic was George Osborne's eyebrows in 2016. I didn't even know if the thing that struck me was a thing. And ever since he became Chancellor in 2010, I used to joke...'you won't see him coming out, because he leaves by the window'; and, 'I'm amazed anyone can capture his image on photos'...both referencing vampire traits. Little did I know I'd hit the nail on the head...vampire is a euphemism for actor...but no ordinary actor, rather the class that play roles in the Jesuit pantomime show of the New World Order.

Jesuit drama, program of theatre developed for educational and propagandist purposes in the colleges of the Society of Jesus during the 16th, 17th, and 18th centuries. Cultivated as a medium for disseminating Roman Catholic doctrine drama flourished in the Jesuit schools for more than 200 years' evolving from modest student exercises to elaborate productions that often rivalled the contemporary public stage in polish and technical skill. The earliest recorded performance of a Jesuit play was in 1551, at the newly founded Collegio Mamertino at Messina, in Sicily: In less than 20 years, plays were being performed at more than a dozen of the new Jesuit colleges springing up in cities across the Continent, including Rome, Sevila (Sevile), Cordoba, Innsbruck. Munich, and Vienna

— https://www.britannica.com/art/Jesuit-drama

[SaiGirl]

Fanatical Christians in the late Empire recklessly destroyed temples, libraries, art treasures and freedom of religion. With the full support of most emperors and LAWS decreed to stamp out paganism.

This was top down elite imposed "wokeness" in the form of Christian "evangelism" (forced conversion and submission to the bishops).

Thus, when Rome was invaded by "barbarians" (who had become a version of "Christian" themselves), the cultural unity and coherence of Roman civilization failed.

Gibbon's exhaustive "Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire" documents this process in detail.

[SaiGirl]

Why is this post and this thread located in "9/11 Historical Research"?

Because no one has any respect for the titles of these forums.
So why should I?

When I REPLY to a post on a given subject / topic / thread, and then discover that it has little or nothing to do with the title of the Forum itself... wtf am I supposed to do?

Spend hours cutting and pasting things into the Forums they specifically belong on?
Why should I have any more respect for the orderliness and clarity of these forums than any of the rest of you.

Therefore: Since this thread shifted its focus away from "9/11 Historical Research" towards ""1799", Jesuits", Rome and the Roman Empire then I will reply without paying attention to the title of the forum.

Do I sound frustrated about this? You bet I do.

If YOU talk about a subject and I choose to reply, I cannot worry about the fact that you arbitrarily dumped your post into the wrong Forum.

Otherwise, how the f*ck do I reply to your post (taking it seriously) without IGNORING the title of the Forum?

[SaiGirl]

Critical military importance of the Balkans and Adriatic coast as the key to Roman power in the west.

Pannonia was a very valuable source of military manpower for the entire empire. From the 3rd to the 6th century some of the most useful troops were recruited from Pannonia, Dalmatia, Moesia and Roman Thrace.
The Roman General Stilicho attempted to bring the region under Western Roman control for this reason.
Pannonia and the other areas along the River Danube, the frontier of the empire in the Balkan Peninsula, were exposed to attacks on the empire from across this river.
Therefore, Pannonia was very important militarily.
Pat Southern sees Illyricum as holding the empire together.
In the Late Roman Empire, the armies of the praetorian prefecture of Illyricum had a commander in-chief, the magister militum per Illyricum, based at Naissus (Niš, southern Serbia).
John Bury wrote that "The importance of Illyricum did not lie in its revenues, but in its men."
The region's native peoples, renowned for their military prowess, became important for the Roman army.

During the Crisis of the Third Century the emperors Claudius II (reigned 268–270), Quintillus (reigned 270), Aurelian (reigned 270–275) and Probus (reigned 276–282) were born in Sirmium (Sremska Mitrovica, Serbia).
They have been dubbed by historians the Pannonian emperors.
Diocletian (reigned 284–305) was born in Salona (Solin, Croatia).
Constantine the Great and Constantius III (421AD ) were born in Naissus (Niš, Serbia). His father, Constantius Chlorus, was born in Moesia Superior. The Byzantine emperor Anastasius I (reigned 491–518) was born in Dyrrhachium (Durrës, Albania). Justinian I (reigned 527–565) was born in Tauresium, in the province of Dardania in the Diocese of Dacia (20 kilometres [12 miles] southeast of Skopje in today's North Macedonia).

Justinian the Great was the last Latin emperor of this empire.
From then on all the emperors were Greek.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illyricum ... _province)

This was the most critical region for recruting soldiers.

[rachel]

Why is this post and this thread located in "9/11 Historical Research"?

It's a bit of a car-crash thread. Nigel originally created it with his 1799 research, and I posted some stuff suggesting there might be a link from Napoleon to what was happening in the U.S.. Then all of Nigel's posts were deleted, so it just looked like me talking about Napoleon. Then Nigel as DonPowell added to the thread but didn't really connect the missing 1799 stuff, and ended up using the thread for a general conversation. Now his account has been deleted I thought I may as well add the 1799 type posts I found in the livestream chat to the thread, which are seen at the start, mainly as a reference regarding what to look up if I decide to try to make a better link to France.

Don did have some interesting content on how the Rockefellers used a clean water system as a hook into controlling New York. I think that was his starting point.

[SaiGirl]

Jesuit missionaries
In the 1640s, French Jesuit missionaries established missions in the villages of the Western Abenaki and Iroquois to convert them to Christianity and develop peaceful relationships.

Jesuit Relations
The Jesuit Relations are a collection of accounts that include details about the Indigenous peoples, such as their languages, customs, and hunting techniques. The accounts also praise the conversion of some Indigenous chiefs to Catholicism, which made them loyal allies of the French Crown.

Champlain was a French explorer, colonist, diplomat, and administrator who founded New France, the largest French colony in North America. Some of his accomplishments include:

Establishing the first permanent European settlement
In 1605, Champlain founded Port Royal, the first permanent European settlement in North America north of Florida.

Establishing Quebec City
In 1608, Champlain founded Quebec City, which became the center of the Canadian province of Quebec.

Creating an accurate coastal map
Champlain created the first accurate coastal map during his explorations.

Forming alliances with Native Americans
Champlain formed alliances with Native Americans against the Iroquois, and fought in several battles with them.

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What is "Jesuit drama" or "Jesuit theater"?

The extravagance and luxury of many of the Jesuit productions came under heavy attack. Many of the productions were enormously expensive, and it was charged that students in some colleges did little more than prepare and perform plays. Opponents of the Jesuit order seized upon such charges and made them part of the wave of anti-Jesuit feeling that grew in the mid-18th century. Dramatic performances were prohibited or limited in many areas, and they ceased altogether in 1773, when the Society of Jesus was temporarily suppressed.

https://www.britannica.com/art/Jesuit-drama

[SaiGirl]

https://www.nytimes.com/1981/12/13/thea ... -pope.html