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An anti salt piece.
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I have just read that pdf. The basic thrust of the claim is that the chloride ion cannot be separated from the sodium ion while in solution. This is demonstrably false, since a large proportion of the salt is used to make hydrochloric acid. This acid stays OUTSIDE your body in the hole between your mouth and your anus, while the sodium ion is taken up INSIDE the body and contained between the skin and the walls of the intestines.
There is free chloride in your body and this is used for the vital task of breathing via the chloride shift.
Secondly, there is practically no sodium chloride in natural, unprocessed food.

There is this statement Sodium chloride’s retention and excretion by the body places a large strain on kidneys and other organs, damaging tissue and raising blood pressure as the body retains water in extracellular tissue to dilute salt. This is the complete opposite of the truth. Because everyone's blood has the same salt concentration, if you have less salt your blood becomes too thick. It is in fact the lack of water retention which causes the most severe health problems in the western world. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK5 ... 0admission.

The salt is a drug PDF also says this... "However, as arteries lose elasticity with age, increased plasma volume from salt intake raises blood pressure. According to the INTERSALT study, the Yanomami tribe of Brazil consume no salt, and their blood pressure averages
only 95/61 mmHg, which does not rise with age". I can only note, with wry amusement, that
The AVERAGE LIFESPAN OF THE YANOMAMI tribe members is 29 years.

In my opinion, having a 29 year life span with low blood pressure IS NOT indicative that low pressure is a desirable outcome.

Strangely, the amniotic fluid which surrounds the baby at birth is made up entirely of urine with a sodium chloride content of 2%... does that indicate that salt is a dangerous poison?

Similarly, the most common invasive medical procedure is the insertion of an isotonic saline drip. Although i haven't got a link, I have read that this simple procedure save millions of lives each year.

I look forward to other comments.
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Sodium is kept in check by Magnesium and Potassium.
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Two fantastic docs from Frank.
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you boys always touch on fakeotube

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a large proportion of the salt is used to make hydrochloric acid
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The importance of salt might rather be atributed to its role in producing alkalinity in the stomach where sodium bicarbonate is produced.
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Just as the saliva in our mouth is highly alcaline as we start to chew and thus digest our food, so it seems the main goal of the stomach is to alcalize the food (often highly acidic) we eat before it goes into the small intestin where stemcells and blood is produced at a PH of 8,4.
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The body always will keep the blood at a constant PH (7,36) and to produce that neutral alkalinity from what we eat - mostly acidic food - we need a massive system for alkalising our nutrition - not acidifying it further. This seems to be the real role of the stomach. Which means we need salt to assist us in this process, not to make any new type of acid, but to produce the opposite : alkalinity.
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Just as so many other topics, we mostly have health backwards - digestion is not done with acid, its just the byproduct of alkalising the food we eat. Its quite logical too, the body is alkaline in design just like a battery and it works hard to keep the acid in check. When are unable to keep our bodies sufficiently alkaline, we become acidic and then develop a large variety of dis-eases.
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The Stomach Does NOT Digest Food
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This article posted by Unreal is the "anti thesis" to what i think is correct. My understanding can be represented by the stochiometric chemical equation NaCl+CO2+H2O -> HCl + NaHCO3 ... in words salt, water and carbon dioxide are (alchemically) converted by the various systems of mammalian bodies into hydrochloric acid and sodium bicarbonate. The ultimate locus of this separation of acid and base is the parietal cells which line the mammalian stomach.

The first step in comprehending how the acid and the base serve different purposes is to realise that, topologically speaking, mammalian bodies are akin to a donut because they have a hole through the middle of them. Mammals actually have a hole through their bodies which goes from the mouth to the sphincter. This hole is lined by the digestive tract which includes the osophagus, the stomach, the upper intestine, the lower intestine and the sphincter. When a mammal eats food, that food stays inside the "hole" in the body and is therefore "OUTSIDE' the body. As the food is digested, the nutrient value is taken "INSIDE" the body of the mammal through the walls of the digestive tract.

When the the hydrochloric acid and the sodium bicarbonate (a basic or alkaline compound) are produced by the parietal cells, the hydrochloric acid is excreted OUTSIDE the body and into the stomach cavity, while the sodium bicarbonate is excreted INSIDE the body... i.e. into the body tissues which are contained by the skin and the intestine.

The hydrochloric acid is a key component of the digestive juices and the stronger the stomach acid the more effective is the digestive process. In medical texts prior to world war 2, it was said that living men and women produce 3 litres of gastric juice per day with a pH of 1 to 2. To produce 3 litres of gastric juice with a pH of 1 requires 17grams of salt.

The sodium bicarbonate is taken up INSIDE the body where the sodium ion is required for the electrical process of the body, osmosis and numerous other functions, while the bicarbonate ion maintains the internal fluids of the body at a pH of 7.4.

Note well that the sodium content of internal bodily fluids is the most closely managed of any nutrient, with a concentration of between 135 and 145 millilmole. The second most carefully controlled nutrient in the mammalian body is the bicarbonate content, which maintains the pH of the INSIDE of the body between pH7.35 and pH7.45 .
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