What's the objective of all these fake wars?

[pasterno]

Anyone has an idea what the point of all these fake wars is?

Ukraine - Russia is fake
Gaza - Israel is fake
Syria - ISIS was fake

Almost no-one is dying. We get a lot of propaganda. Sometimes it surprises me, why all this show? Do they really need it to govern us?

What's their point? Why do we need to collectively need to be bought in to these dramas?

I'm curious to hear your takes.

My 5 cents
In my opinion it's to push the global agenda, the end of the independent nation state and the grow the taxability of the nation.
We grew from 5% to 60% cumulative tax rate in most of the European nations. Our communism is probably stronger than the USSR.
And I was surprised how effective the Ukraine hoax was in Europe.

For the first time, all the national armies are now working together, they are not fighting, but they are integrated now. Just 2 years. No debates. No consultations of the people. No referenda.
https://www.eumonitor.eu/9353000/1/j9vv ... jhdfktnpb

The Covid hoax integrated all health services under the WHO.

I don't know yet what will be pushed using the Israel / Gaza conflict, but I'm sure we will soon find out.

I think a main point of the global agenda is to have a safe space for the elite. Their interests are protected globally. They can move anywhere freely. Their patents are protected globally. Their funds transferred without a problem.

But at the same time, I'm also doubtful, why run the risk of all these fake wars? But somehow it seems we need an enemy for governance. Without an enemy no unity.

[Samson79]

My view is strictly from the perspective of biblical revelation, teaching and prophecy.

All the worldly political media contructs are simply ALL to decieve the inhabitants of the earth, to bring about a choice where only two credible options are presented.

One option is the way to death not seen or believed or felt, even understood to arrive at the destination of forfeiture.

The other option is the way to life, requiring faith by action and includes repentance, spiritual endurance and giving up what I can only describe as investment in the former ideas that are learned by the individual to be false, deceptive, unfair even cruel to others and self.

The former is presented as the easier and safer option (the wider, easier and popular path) with regards to the physical world, interpreted by individuals as sensed, with spiritual inexperience, ignorance or the avoidance of material and even physical detriment but is ultimately at the cost of others physical and spiritual freedoms and includes the acceptance of evil.

The later is presented as a path that is seemingly lonely, but develops out of accepting truths otherwise unpopular but are hinged upon a LAW system that first requires diligent study and results in understanding of the individuals place in the world and how it ultimately effects others, either spiritually, physically or materialistic, revealing divine mercy and love, to stay on this path requires endurance, faith under persecution and knowledge, vision and love that is tested and not reciprocated, that is to say loving without immediate reward or gratification, patient love, again that can endure.

The fake wars are stages to bring the inhabitants of the world to a point of hopelessness and to create the enviroment where a bringer of peace can offer a united one world government in exchange for a loyalty that presents these two choices. The former is complete spiritual and physical enslavement that includes abhorent extreme perversion.

That is my understanding, right or wrong, I am still aware of deception becoming stronger that challenges my patience, endurance and my spirit.

I enjoy reading scripture and feel I am no where near strong enough to endure on my own efforts and seek the help from that which I have put my faith in fro many years, just my understanding of where I find myself in the world.

Without thumping my bible....for those who require a more political approach I would say all these wars are distractions and dielectic driven stages, problem reaction solution type efforts to curtail freedoms, produce more reliance on government and to make rules off the back of wars, create that enviroment for everyone to accept some ideas from a charismatic leader who will demand loyalty for peace that will be broken by this leader

[napoleon]

this is a good answer ,makes sense ,and if you don't agree alot unpacked in less than an hour

[pasterno]

My view is strictly from the perspective of biblical revelation, teaching and prophecy.

All the worldly political media contructs are simply ALL to decieve the inhabitants of the earth, to bring about a choice where only two credible options are presented.

One option is the way to death not seen or believed or felt, even understood to arrive at the destination of forfeiture.

The other option is the way to life, requiring faith by action and includes repentance, spiritual endurance and giving up what I can only describe as investment in the former ideas that are learned by the individual to be false, deceptive, unfair even cruel to others and self.

The former is presented as the easier and safer option (the wider, easier and popular path) with regards to the physical world, interpreted by individuals as sensed, with spiritual inexperience, ignorance or the avoidance of material and even physical detriment but is ultimately at the cost of others physical and spiritual freedoms and includes the acceptance of evil.

The later is presented as a path that is seemingly lonely, but develops out of accepting truths otherwise unpopular but are hinged upon a LAW system that first requires diligent study and results in understanding of the individuals place in the world and how it ultimately effects others, either spiritually, physically or materialistic, revealing divine mercy and love, to stay on this path requires endurance, faith under persecution and knowledge, vision and love that is tested and not reciprocated, that is to say loving without immediate reward or gratification, patient love, again that can endure.

The fake wars are stages to bring the inhabitants of the world to a point of hopelessness and to create the enviroment where a bringer of peace can offer a united one world government in exchange for a loyalty that presents these two choices. The former is complete spiritual and physical enslavement that includes abhorent extreme perversion.

That is my understanding, right or wrong, I am still aware of deception becoming stronger that challenges my patience, endurance and my spirit.

I enjoy reading scripture and feel I am no where near strong enough to endure on my own efforts and seek the help from that which I have put my faith in fro many years, just my understanding of where I find myself in the world.

Without thumping my bible....for those who require a more political approach I would say all these wars are distractions and dielectic driven stages, problem reaction solution type efforts to curtail freedoms, produce more reliance on government and to make rules off the back of wars, create that enviroment for everyone to accept some ideas from a charismatic leader who will demand loyalty for peace that will be broken by this leader

Some interesting thoughts, what I take away is the pattern of creating problems and then solving them.

Where the solution always takes power from man and then give it to the global elite. Not enforced. But man is asking for it. He locks you up first. Then you swear you'll do anything if he lets you out, as long as you can be free again.

Make em hungry and you can feed em anything and they'll be happy.

Put em to a little test and 90% will follow with in a day.

But I'm wondering. Who are the people specifically? How does this work?

Maybe my question is as well, who organizes this? Who sit together and say:

"I think we need another conflict, global integration is getting slow, we need them to rally behind something".

"But another war?"

"Yeah I think so, Ukraine was so effective, almost no revolt, armies United, shared intelligence, let's do Israel, everyone loves that. "The hyperadvanced Holocaust survivors Vs the guerilla stone throwing Palestinians." People will love that."

"Are you sure?"

"Trust me we have done this before, let me drop Benjamin a call. Ukraine went well didn't it?"

"True that was awesome."

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I think the propaganda departments that were set up in ww2 in the US and the UK are set to this use.

Population engagement so they don't churn.

A constant marketing operation how good the state is.

You can also see the fake nukes and moon landing on this light.

[Grand Illusion]

I feel the objective of these CONflicts or staged wars is partially a land clear to move people around like most wars. I think in years past up until the Vietnam era, wars were more real than they are today. I think the powers that be used them to CONtrol population and at the same time have people really dying or getting hurt so stories would spread around how real the wars are.

Like with the Vietnam War, you had soldiers come back from Vietnam with PTSD or a missing leg. The soldiers didn't have to die but just have visible signs of atrocity effects so the rest of society would get how real these wars were. I feel after Vietnam, the Television and then the black mirrors made it possible to trick people into thinking the wars were real.

Now during Vietnam the war imagery and footage was being broadcasted to people in the 1960s and 1970s to bring the war into people's living rooms but the reason why I think it was still more real than compared to the wars now is that the Draft was still in place for Men ages 18-35. The idea of taking young men filled with Testosterone and sticking them into battle is a good idea for the powers that be to play devil's advocate because this way the threat of them is CONtrolled. Also there has been a war on the Baby Boomers because of the population boom that occurred in America from 1946-1964 and that needed to be taken care of through various nefarious ways including a war in Southeast Asia to send young American men to.

Tying this back into today with wars, the reason there is no more military draft in America to send high testosterone men off to war is that the powers that be realize how messy it can be along with the heavy resistance to it and so now that other mediums came into play to influence men's behavior such as feminizing the male through different ways, why go the messy war route? Like after the draft in Vietnam ended in the early 1970s, compared to when it started in the early 1960s, the mechanisms of CONtrol had changed. For instance Birth CONtrol had just started in 1964 but hadn't gotten time to really integrate into society. By the 1970s, more women were using birth control than 10 years before, hence young men aren't going to be able to impregnate women like they used to and the population goes down.

Also when the Vietnam War and the draft ended, the Disco scene sprang up. Another tool for CONtrol. Feminizing the man. I think that has always been the goal of the powers that be. Get a hold of the threat of high testosterone men by making them feminine and lowering that testosterone through plastics (xenoestrogen) and soy (phytoestrogen). There is also corralling them into sports but I think feminizing men through different methods whether soy,plastics or culture programming is a better option that getting people killed because when the draft was going on in the Vietnam Era, it caused a lot of trouble with war protests and anger over being forced to fight for no good reason.

If you look at today, the draft isn't needed. Because young men are way different than 50-60 years ago. They are addicted to playing video games (Call of Duty Franchise), have been feminized through so many different ways and have lower testosterone compared to previous generations and because of this are no longer the threat they once were to the powers that be.

The powers that be might be worried if real war did exist it would be captured by the panopticon society of cameras we live in. To have a mess of a war being uploaded to the internet whether Instagram or Facebook every second, would really be out of order for the powers that be. It's better to hire your actors to stage that stuff. Like in Vietnam, the CONtrolled mass media uploaded all the footage to the masses but today anyone with a phone can record and upload. That could present troubles for the elite they don't want.

When we talk about the endgame of these fake wars to create all this disruption in society so the masses beg for a solution. That is exactly correct. Obviously there is the fear porn component to these staged wars but this is all heading for a proper One World Government that was talked about in so many globalist books. Will it take the form of a fake alien invasion to be staged eventually to unite everyone against? World War III? Or is WWIII the In-formation war we are in? The bottom line is that at some point these staged wars are going to lead to something bigger as a endgame solution. The elite aren't stupid and they have this all planned out and managed for a final destination.

[pasterno]

I feel the objective of these CONflicts or staged wars is partially a land clear to move people around like most wars. I think in years past up until the Vietnam era, wars were more real than they are today. I think the powers that be used them to CONtrol population and at the same time have people really dying or getting hurt so stories would spread around how real the wars are.

I doubt the full reality of Vietnam, basically WW2 was full of atrocity hoaxes, as was WW1 from the allied side.

https://books.google.nl/books/about/Pro ... edir_esc=y

Try to get a hand of this book, it's a fascinating read from the UK side on propaganda from 1938. How they employed propganda in WW1 and with suggestions for WW2.

As you say back then, the media had full control on what we see or not.

The powers that be might be worried if real war did exist it would be captured by the panopticon society of cameras we live in. To have a mess of a war being uploaded to the internet whether Instagram or Facebook every second, would really be out of order for the powers that be. It's better to hire your actors to stage that stuff. Like in Vietnam, the CONtrolled mass media uploaded all the footage to the masses but today anyone with a phone can record and upload. That could present troubles for the elite they don't want.

This is extremely interesting what you say.

In a real war they wouldn't be able to control the narrative. So they need fake wars to control it. All these wars (if they happen) happen in a very small area (hyper local) area. I think in Gaza it's in a very small part, which is essentially a ghost town / doomsday movie set.

In a real war I think we would see very different images. And people wouldnt be busy filming everything, they would be going for survival. Begging for survival.

When we talk about the endgame of these fake wars to create all this disruption in society so the masses beg for a solution. That is exactly correct. Obviously there is the fear porn component to these staged wars but this is all heading for a proper One World Government that was talked about in so many globalist books. Will it take the form of a fake alien invasion to be staged eventually to unite everyone against? World War III? Or is WWIII the In-formation war we are in? The bottom line is that at some point these staged wars are going to lead to something bigger as a endgame solution. The elite aren't stupid and they have this all planned out and managed for a final destination.

I think you spot on here. We will be begging for world peace.

I just wrote this in the Israel thread.

First they shape a problem; fake Ukraine war, fake Israel - Gaza war.

Then they shape a solution; an "international peace summit"
https://www.politico.eu/article/who-nee ... of-course/

Tested with the youth already 10 years ago:
https://www.humanitarianaffairs.asia/Gl ... /Overview/

For the students here:
https://reliefweb.int/training/3989095/ ... ummit-2024 (apply now for next year)

And Zelensky says the big one happens next year:
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/uk ... 023-11-09/

And there are sooo many of these "peace conferences"
https://www.peacevienna.org/
https://www.upf.org/conferences-2/429-peace-summit-2023
https://www.globalpeacechain.org/gpsny/
https://www.worldpeacecouncil.net/activ ... ce-summits

Maybe they will drop in one more fake war; maybe China, and then our global leaders will come together end of 2024 to solve it forever.
Everlasting peace. Hail our international leaders.

Somehow they are referring to biblical themes.

7 years of plagues.
- exaggerated extreme weather events
- fake wars
- the fake virus

Without them saying the word they say: " God is angry at you!"

And in a few years they will come with world peace and the new global rise of wealth.

I feel they are now speeding up the suffering. It's funny how here the economy is destroyed.

We have a housing shortage and all builders are working on roads, windmills and other useless government projects.
I see all sorts of engineered scarcities, all sorts of trade barriers, to prop this up. All sorts of useless government "jobs".
The destruction of crucial industry. (like steel, energy, fertilizer)

So I think we are in it since Covid and I think we have quite some entertainment to go.
It seems scarcity is one of them.

And then we will say: Please give me "global peace" and heaven on earth. And the trade barriers will be cancelled, and we will see houses being built, but we are now in pain times.

No pain no gain.

WDYT?

[PotatoFieldsForever]

They make the world hopeless to force us to seek something beyond the material world. At the same time, everything here is used to bring us back to Earth.

[Samson79]

2030 we are likely to see some extreme events that outdo the last, covid showed tptb that we will collectively try to save ourselves and in doing so end up dead, it is almost like their ideas are closely linked to biblical prophecy, but not cleaving to the biblical message.

It is almost like prophecy or end times prophecy matches pretty much the only areas they haven't covered yet like....full allegience (Luciferian initiation) to buy and sell, I have tried to sell a cupboard on Gumtree and the cookie accept showed over 700+ companies wanting information on my selling a cupboard (?) Also people are tired, losing faith in mans government so something big HAS TO HAPPEN for tptb to keep compliance and governance which I believe will pretty much mirror revelations, because what else can the ptb do to keep us enslaved if they feel threatened by a mass non compliant people who they depend on to build and maintain their shite world order of pigs with harddrives doing everything for them, I mean these elites all have like 50 or 60 people to wipe their arse, cook, wash them, they need body guards, they have few options left to keep that kind of life style....buying and selling is the big one....everything before has lead us upto now....vaccine passports and cbdc's with a tranny race at the helm.

[napoleon]

https://www.ianvisits.co.uk/anniversari ... &year=2026

heres a good site see if any dates have anniversaries soon,always nice to see whats coming

2030.is here this it how it creeps in .the chattering classes talk to some right to some right wronguns when these people need exiling from conversation,we ignore topics that cause offence to loved ones or friends or lying discordiant sack sof shit hackers and sellouts because it upsets them

well i got news for you theyre gonna be upset with what happens anyway ,lose the dickheads in your life or atleast make them see the psimplest step to freedom is saying fuck no!

i upset everyone and ive been giving nurses the clap years before covid

[aSHIFT.]

Anyone has an idea what the point of all these fake wars is?

very simple, a principle of mankind, and luckily so

most warfare is psychological warfare