The use of division

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Exit
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The use of division

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It works brilliantly doesn’t it.

How to divide the masses from truly joining together and saying a powerful, united no.

Divide lands so one group (who were once united and strong) is separate from the other, concoct a reason for this. Get the groups fighting each other. For land lost or any other reason. It doesn’t even have to be the division of lands, it can be, and is, any number of things.

Control by division.

I know we all know this but I really contemplated it last week and realised the truly awful but very simple depth of this strategy. And how it’s worked so well.
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Re: The use of division

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You might like the Road to Serfdom by Hayek.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Road_to_Serfdom

He eloquently describes the rise of the totalitarian movements and sees them as all and the same:

National Socialism - Russian Communism - American Socialism

All forms of socialism, all totalitarian.

Instead of going for truth (in the classical liberal sense) the people are pitted against eachother.

Labourer - Bourgeoisie
German - Jew
And more modern:
Earth lover - Polluter
Black - White
Women - Men
Vaccinated - Non-vaccinated

Most are mistaken on what totalitarian means.

Most people then see it as a German guy in a Hugo Boss suit that has a gun and dog forcing you to do something.

What Hayek says:
'The most effective way of making people accept the validity of the values they are to serve is to persuade them that they are really the same as those which they, or at least the best among them, have always held, but which were not properly understood or recognized before. The people are made to transfer their allegiance from the old gods to the new under the pretense that the new gods really are what their sound instinct had always told them but what before they had only dimly seen. And the most efficient technique to this end is to use the old words but change their meaning. Few traits of totalitarian regimes are at the same time so confusing to the superficial observer and yet so characteristic of the whole intellectual climate as the complete perversion of language, the change of meaning of the words by which the ideals of the new regimes are expressed.'
In 1944 he decribes the danger of the central planner, and the risk of the international institutions.

In the end we need to escape these frames of thinking. As they are just there to control us. (either side)

The false frame is the problem.
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Re: The use of division

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The divide and conquer strategy by the powers that be is a tried and true method of ruling over people. Government political parties, religions and professional sports teams are just a few examples on top of what Pasterno mentioned of pitting people against each other so they are in disagreement and can't bond together to become a threat to the elite. The normies can't figure these tricks out and play along like useful idiots not realizing how they are being played to advance agendas for the domination, CONtrol and rule that is being perpetrated on them.
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Re: The use of division

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Grand Illusion wrote: Tue Nov 28, 2023 4:25 am The divide and conquer strategy by the powers that be is a tried and true method of ruling over people. Government political parties, religions and professional sports teams are just a few examples on top of what Pasterno mentioned of pitting people against each other so they are in disagreement and can't bond together to become a threat to the elite. The normies can't figure these tricks out and play along like useful idiots not realizing how they are being played to advance agendas for the domination, CONtrol and rule that is being perpetrated on them.
Exactly and on a young age we are taught it's "fun" to disagree.

I support Chelsea and you support Manchester United.
I support Hamilton and you support Verstappen.

We are taught to debate, and taught to defend positions we don't even question or belief in, we learn anything can be defended, that's so cool!

There is no Truth, just what you support.

That's the main point I think, there is no truth, just positions. And in the battle of positions we get something good.

I have wasted main years watching politics, but I can't remember 1 moment when a politician says:
"Hey I didn't hear that before, I think I need to nuance my statement, great argument!"

I think trench warfare is the best metaphor for current society.


No one ever moving, just sitting there in the mud, getting sick, cold and dying.

No progress, no truth, just an endless exchange of words, where no-one even listens to.
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