Prison fakery (Aby Ghraib, but also fake prison movie depictions)
Prison fakery (Aby Ghraib, but also fake prison movie depictions)
I've been looking into prisons a bit lately and I feel the "prison" culture is completely exaggerated.
1. The Abu Ghraib fakery
This seems complete bollocks to me.
It's the type of propaganda that is presented as a "scandal". We tried to "hide the truth" but now they found us out. And now we go on our knees to show how sorry we are.
I think this propaganda serves a few goals:
- it appeals to the people that feel something is off; "finally we got them and they need to burn for this", serving as a perfect lightning rod.
- In total hegemony, global dictatorship, you need to make up your own enemies, external and internal
- It's the wikileaks bullshit. The so called "leaks". Crumbs for the peasants. While they just get a Hollywood movie
2. Prison fakery
In all movies it seems there are just aggressive "right wing" extremists vs blacks vs hispanics. All the world is "racial"
That you need to kill someone on your first day otherwise they will dress you as a girl and anally rape you every day.
Again we have this fake sexualisation. Men becoming women. This gender crap. And the racial fakery.
While the reality is (which I have heard from my priest who worked there a lot) that prisons are mostly just sad hopeless places where barely anything happens.
The aim of this propaganda is divide and conquer the aggression in population in my opinion. Make everything about black vs white vs hispanic. Let them kill each other. It's a perfect framing.
The reality is just far off the thing that's repeated day in dya out.
What do you think of it?
1. The Abu Ghraib fakery
This seems complete bollocks to me.
It's the type of propaganda that is presented as a "scandal". We tried to "hide the truth" but now they found us out. And now we go on our knees to show how sorry we are.
I think this propaganda serves a few goals:
- it appeals to the people that feel something is off; "finally we got them and they need to burn for this", serving as a perfect lightning rod.
- In total hegemony, global dictatorship, you need to make up your own enemies, external and internal
- It's the wikileaks bullshit. The so called "leaks". Crumbs for the peasants. While they just get a Hollywood movie
2. Prison fakery
In all movies it seems there are just aggressive "right wing" extremists vs blacks vs hispanics. All the world is "racial"
That you need to kill someone on your first day otherwise they will dress you as a girl and anally rape you every day.
Again we have this fake sexualisation. Men becoming women. This gender crap. And the racial fakery.
While the reality is (which I have heard from my priest who worked there a lot) that prisons are mostly just sad hopeless places where barely anything happens.
The aim of this propaganda is divide and conquer the aggression in population in my opinion. Make everything about black vs white vs hispanic. Let them kill each other. It's a perfect framing.
The reality is just far off the thing that's repeated day in dya out.
What do you think of it?
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Re: Prison fakery (Aby Ghraib, but also fake prison movie depictions)
Don't forget the absolute nonsense of Guantanamo...
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Re: Prison fakery (Aby Ghraib, but also fake prison movie depictions)
I don't know about the places the media puts out there. I do know there are some brutal hellholes in existence out there to torment and inflict pain and suffering on manKIND.
Prey Saar in Phnom Pennh Cambodia is a prime example.
https://www.prisonersabroad.org.uk/blog ... sar-prison
https://insidetime.org/a-day-in-the-lif ... -cambodia/
https://www.khmertimeskh.com/24870/14-y ... -prey-sar/
http://phnompenhprison.blogspot.com/sea ... -results=5
Prey Saar in Phnom Pennh Cambodia is a prime example.
https://www.prisonersabroad.org.uk/blog ... sar-prison
https://insidetime.org/a-day-in-the-lif ... -cambodia/
https://www.khmertimeskh.com/24870/14-y ... -prey-sar/
http://phnompenhprison.blogspot.com/sea ... -results=5
Re: Prison fakery (Aby Ghraib, but also fake prison movie depictions)
I don't buy one bit of the "evil" Pol Pot story.dirtybenny wrote: ↑Sat Dec 30, 2023 9:34 pm I don't know about the places the media puts out there. I do know there are some brutal hellholes in existence out there to torment and inflict pain and suffering on manKIND.
Prey Saar in Phnom Pennh Cambodia is a prime example.
https://www.prisonersabroad.org.uk/blog ... sar-prison
https://insidetime.org/a-day-in-the-lif ... -cambodia/
https://www.khmertimeskh.com/24870/14-y ... -prey-sar/
http://phnompenhprison.blogspot.com/sea ... -results=5
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I even visited Cambodia to check it out, it's typical American propaganda.
Evil paranoid dictator, who kills random people who he suspects are after him, and put innocent civilians in prisons run by sadists, who rape and kill them. He wants an agrarian society and then a million people die off. (yeah right....)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pol_Pot
Anyhow that's exactly what I mean, all these weird prison stories.. Evil Nazi's holding Jews in prisons for experiments.Pol Pot transformed Cambodia into a one-party state which he called Democratic Kampuchea. Seeking to create an agrarian socialist society that he believed would evolve into a communist society, Pol Pot's government forcibly relocated the urban population to the countryside and forced it to work on collective farms. Pursuing complete egalitarianism, money was abolished and all citizens were forced to wear the same black clothing. Mass killings of perceived government opponents, coupled with malnutrition and poor medical care, killed between 1.5 and 2 million people, approximately a quarter of Cambodia's population, a process which was later termed the Cambodian genocide. Repeated purges of the CPK generated growing discontent; by 1978 Cambodian soldiers were mounting a rebellion in the east. After several years of border clashes, the newly unified Vietnam invaded Cambodia in December 1978, toppling Pol Pot and installing a rival government in 1979. The Khmer Rouge retreated to the jungles near the Thai border, from where they continued to fight. In declining health, Pol Pot stepped back from many of his roles in the movement. In 1998, the Khmer Rouge commander Ta Mok placed Pol Pot under house arrest and shortly afterward, Pol Pot died.
Prisons are fear propaganda.
Every civilians then says, wow, I'm happy to live in ..... and we have no evil dictator that locks us all up and aims to kill us all.
Anyhow on Pol Pot, the whole region was a US puppet theater beforehand and this new leader (Pol Pot) in just didn't wish to bow 100% to the master, leading to direct global trade barriers in which all countries of the "west" participated, which leads to problems as hunger.
On the US puppet state before Pol Pot before:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khmer_Republic
Same shit as in Germany and Japan:
US bombs and kills many, then US says: "we saved country X from an evil dictator who raped women and killed babies and gassed and humiliated the population in sadistic prisons"
In short: Cambodia prison stories are complete lies just as Guantanamo bay.
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Re: Prison fakery (Aby Ghraib, but also fake prison movie depictions)
I have personal experience, it is real and it is hell on earth.
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Re: Prison fakery (Aby Ghraib, but also fake prison movie depictions)
There's something about prisons indeed.
It is the ultimate yardstick for society. Nobody wants to be locked up against their will.
from the Animal Farmers' side it is the perfect model:
- get people you don't want there off the streets
- let them WORK for your machine
There is room for fuckery however. I am absolutely not saying "prisons are fake", but there is an incentive to fake jail and jail time. Outside of US Private Prisons or Xipings Xianyang "Re-education camps", it's cumbersome and expensive, especially in personell and training.
At the same time, at the other side of the same coin you could say, there is the romanticism of the Prison Escape. Not surprising a lot of admitted fiction has been written with that theme (later in movies, but things started off way before in books).
As "reality" (Clownworld crealities) is "stranger than fiction" (by definition nonsense, cause our imagination always outshines our real world capacities), we all got indoctrinated with the Napoleon Bonaparte on St. Helena (in the middle of the Southern Atlantic) stories, of long ago, but also younger.
The more than hilarious psyop that was organized near the end of WWII also took place in a kind of Prison
A Prisoner of War camp, Stalag Luft III
Just the intro section of the Wikipedia page of the Prison Camp itself
Just this, this is enough, to tackle the whole psyop.
Back in the days I did it when writing for Piece of Mindful, in the
Peculiar Plots series
And yes, this is the original story where the blockbuster hit war movie The Great Escape "was based on"....
LINKS
Wikipedia:
The Great Escape (1963)
Stalag Luft III
The Great Escape Psilly Prison Escape Psyop
Other:
Piece of Mindful - Peculiar Plots - The Great Escape
It is the ultimate yardstick for society. Nobody wants to be locked up against their will.
from the Animal Farmers' side it is the perfect model:
- get people you don't want there off the streets
- let them WORK for your machine
There is room for fuckery however. I am absolutely not saying "prisons are fake", but there is an incentive to fake jail and jail time. Outside of US Private Prisons or Xipings Xianyang "Re-education camps", it's cumbersome and expensive, especially in personell and training.
At the same time, at the other side of the same coin you could say, there is the romanticism of the Prison Escape. Not surprising a lot of admitted fiction has been written with that theme (later in movies, but things started off way before in books).
As "reality" (Clownworld crealities) is "stranger than fiction" (by definition nonsense, cause our imagination always outshines our real world capacities), we all got indoctrinated with the Napoleon Bonaparte on St. Helena (in the middle of the Southern Atlantic) stories, of long ago, but also younger.
The more than hilarious psyop that was organized near the end of WWII also took place in a kind of Prison
A Prisoner of War camp, Stalag Luft III
Just the intro section of the Wikipedia page of the Prison Camp itself
tells you the total psychopathy in writing by these poor script writers....The site was selected because its sandy soil made it difficult for POWs to escape by tunnelling.
It is best known for two escape plots by Allied POWs......
"stranger than fiction", no, dumber than fiction. Fiction needs to make a certain sense because it tries to get to the reader who lives in reality, it is not books written by acid heads for mescaline users, right....Stalag Luft III (German: Stammlager Luft III; literally "Main Camp, Air, III"; SL III) was a Luftwaffe-run prisoner-of-war (POW) camp established in March 1942 near the town of Sagan, Lower Silesia, in what was then Nazi Germany (now Żagań, Poland), 160 kilometres (100 miles) south-east of Berlin.
The site was selected because its sandy soil made it difficult for POWs to escape by tunnelling.
It is best known for two escape plots by Allied POWs......
(exact same wording in the Escape from the Camp intro used twice, lazy wiki writers...)
Just this, this is enough, to tackle the whole psyop.
But if you want to read some hilarious fiction, break it down by reading the nonsense. links at bottom.Stalag Luft III (German: Stammlager Luft III; literally "Main Camp, Air, III"; SL III) was a Luftwaffe-run prisoner-of-war (POW) camp during the Second World War, which held captured Western Allied air force personnel.
The camp was established in March 1942 near the town of Sagan, Lower Silesia, in what was then Nazi Germany (now Żagań, Poland), 160 kilometres (100 miles) south-east of Berlin. The site was selected because its sandy soil made it difficult for POWs to escape by tunnelling.
It is best known for two escape plots by Allied POWs. One was in 1943 and became the basis of a fictionalised film, The Wooden Horse (1950), based on a book by escapee Eric Williams. The second breakout — the so-called Great Escape — of March 1944, was conceived by Royal Air Force Squadron Leader Roger Bushell, and was authorised by the senior British officer at Stalag Luft III, Herbert Massey.
Back in the days I did it when writing for Piece of Mindful, in the
Peculiar Plots series
Let’s rewind:
Ninety-fecking-eight tunnels, including a “successful” one from beneath the Trojan Horse in a camp designed to make tunneling impossible. No, seriously. This story must be real, because it looks so fake…
- The prison camp had a number of design features that made escape extremely difficult. The digging of escape tunnels, in particular, was discouraged by several factors:
- the barracks housing the prisoners were raised approximately 60 centimetres (24 in) off the ground to make it easier for guards to detect tunnelling;
- the camp had been constructed on land that had a very sandy subsoil; the surface sand was bright yellow, so it could easily be detected if anyone dumped the darker, grey dirt found beneath it above ground, or even just had some of it on their clothing. The loose, collapsible sand meant the structural integrity of any tunnel would be very poor.
- A third defence against tunnelling was the placement of seismograph microphones around the perimeter of the camp, which were expected to detect any sounds of digging.
And yes, this is the original story where the blockbuster hit war movie The Great Escape "was based on"....
LINKS
Wikipedia:
The Great Escape (1963)
Stalag Luft III
The Great Escape Psilly Prison Escape Psyop
Other:
Piece of Mindful - Peculiar Plots - The Great Escape
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Re: Prison fakery (Aby Ghraib, but also fake prison movie depictions)
You say some important things. I think this is right.
Threats to the elite can be put away. And turned into some productivity.
1 very productive thing is that prisoners serve as an example to those not in prison, that the elite can and wil put you away if they don't like you.
Those Uyghur re-education camps are pure lies from what I have seen.
It's funny that "prison" is very cultural, there are indeed so many movies on it, from what I heard from some people with experience,
prison is depressing, boring and dreadful. Most come out worse than they went in.
I also find it interesting that in propaganda we always learn that prisoners are good and that they deserve our sympathy and that guards are evil nazis.
This always intrigues me.
The animal farmers lock them up. And then the elite tells them they are victims of evil nazi guards. (blame the guard, never blame the ratty policy makers and politicians making the rules or the judges)
The plantation leaders love these games, always divide and conquer.
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Re: Prison fakery (Aby Ghraib, but also fake prison movie depictions)
What do you mean "pure lies"?Those Uyghur re-education camps are pure lies from what I have seen.
You think they are fake, completely don't exist?
What evidence do you have for such position? Like boots-on-the-ground footage by indepedent investigators interviewing families in Western China where they say "no, no, my uncle and cousin are NOT in a camp, look, they are sitting here on the couch playing the latest Playstation III game..."
Or what evidence do you have for the thesis that those camps "are pure lies"
so "what have you seen"?
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Re: Prison fakery (Aby Ghraib, but also fake prison movie depictions)
I meant to say, hair shaving (to be sold to russia for wigs) genocide camps in which women are raped by sadistic chinese cops.aSHIFT. wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 12:11 pmWhat do you mean "pure lies"?Those Uyghur re-education camps are pure lies from what I have seen.
You think they are fake, completely don't exist?
What evidence do you have for such position? Like boots-on-the-ground footage by indepedent investigators interviewing families in Western China where they say "no, no, my uncle and cousin are NOT in a camp, look, they are sitting here on the couch playing the latest Playstation III game..."
Or what evidence do you have for the thesis that those camps "are pure lies"
so "what have you seen"?
https://www.icij.org/investigations/chi ... detention/
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/extra/85qiht ... tion-camps
Look at the fabulous propaganda.
There are probably state schools (which they call re-education camps) in which people learn to count and learn Mandarin.
I haven't been there but several things show me we are in propaganda territory:
- That every American politician says "China bad"
- The Wuhan lab fakery
- The Uyghur shaved women (https://www.saveuighur.org/shave-their- ... nd-beauty/)
- The US state funded NGOs (the hypocrisy) coming up for Uyghurs
https://campaignforuyghurs.org
Those that tell us about these evil camps are proven deceivers; BBC / New York Times / Washington PostAt the same time as the concentration camps have developed, human-hair production in China has increased by 78%.
Outside of concentration camps, select prisoners are relocated to forced labor factories disguised as “vocational training” centers where they are kept apart from family to work without pay. Both camps and forced labor facilities are kept strategically in close proximity with human-hair production factories (see image).
Hair sourced from prisoners in concentration camps is passed through forced labor facilities into nearby hair factories to be exported to wig makers around the world.
They tell us a million of people are detained in camps. I don't buy it. But do I know? In the casino I would guess 99% certain we are in propaganda territory.
It all seems larger then life to me. Do you think evil Chinese are locking up 1 million women and children in concentration camps?