Is Easter a fake holiday?

[SaiGirl]

Listen:
Before you start digging into this, prepare yourself to put up with a headache.

Because that's what the phony calendars of both the Roman and Eastern Orthodox Churches do to me.
They give me a headache.

Here's a hint: The "Last Supper" was the first night of Passover: A traditional "seder".
It was also close to the Sabbath, because according to the Gospel account, the crucifixion has to be finished before sundown on the Sabbath.
The "Feast of the Resurrection" is celebrated on Sunday, when the event is supposed to have occurred.
The yearly scheduling of the Lenten season is always "reverse engineered" from the official scheduling of Easter by the Roman and Eastern Orthodox Churches.

An orthodox Jew would have made pilgrimage to Jerusalem, for the Paschal lamb sacrifice at the Temple, according to the official beginning of Passover, as determined by the Jewish calendar, based on phases of the moon.

Now you figure out how the dates for celebrating Passover and Easter could be so different this year.

Because it gives me a headache.
In fact, these Abrahamic cults, with their divergent calendars, have always given me headaches.
That's why I reject them.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamiecarte ... very-year/

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Passover 2024 will be celebrated from April 22 - April 30.
The first Seder will be on April 22 after nightfall, and the second Seder will be on April 23 after nightfall.
Passover is celebrated by eating matzah (unleaven bread) and maror (bitter herbs).
For the duration of the 8 (or 7 days in Israel) of Passover, which celebrates the emancipation of the Hebrews from Egyptian slavery, chametz (leaven) is strictly avoided.

Why Does Easter Fall On A Different Date Each Year?
Easter and other religious holidays related to it — Ash Wednesday, Palm Sunday, and Good Friday — are called “moveable feasts.” This means that they are not fixed dates on the calendar. Instead, these holidays are assigned according to what’s called a lunisolar calendar, which aligns the moon’s phases as well as the sun’s position in the sky. (Passover and other Jewish holidays also adhere to the lunisolar calendar.)

How Is The Date Of Easter Determined?
According to a Fourth Century ruling, the date of Easter Sunday is the first Sunday after the Paschal Full Moon, which is the first full Moon of spring. It occurs on or shortly after the spring equinox (also known as vernal equinox). March 22 is the earliest Easter can occur in any given year, and April 25 is the latest. If the first spring full Moon happens to fall on a Sunday, Easter Sunday will be observed on the following Sunday.

Astronomers are able to tell us precisely when the Moon will perfectly oppose the Sun, which is when it is considered to be a “full.” However, the Church follows its own methodologies in determining when the Moon turns full.
One important factor is something called the “Golden Number.” It is a rather arcane series of computations that in the end provides a date for Easter. Of course, on occasion, the date for the full Moon does not exactly line up with the date that is provided by astronomy.

https://www.farmersalmanac.com/when-is-easter

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Those celebrating religious holidays such as Easter, Passover, Ramadan and Holi, may notice celebrations are a little off-schedule in 2024.

For one, the Christian holiday Easter lands on March 31, this year — almost a week and a half earlier than last year’s Resurrection Sunday. It also marks the first time in eight years the occasion hasn’t been celebrated in April, according to the U.S Census Bureau.

The Jewish community is experiencing the opposite phenomenon — with Passover getting an especially late start on April 22, 2024 — over two weeks later than the 2023 celebration and a week later than in 2022.

Passover celebration dates are usually determined by the 15th of the month of Nisan, which is the first night of a full moon after the spring equinox during the first month of the Jewish calendar.

https://www.masslive.com/living/2024/03 ... idays.html

[SaiGirl]

Easter, Ostara: Cognate with Latin "estrus" ("in heat") and "estrogen", suggesting fecundity and fertility.

Very, pagan. This was the ancient universal celebration of the vernal equinox.

Not much to do with the Passover (Paschal) feast of the Jews.
Other than Christ's "Last Supper".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ostara_(magazine)

[S-Frog]

If Easter were a true holiday, based on the narrative the earliest date would be March 15, not March 22. The first full moon Sunday following the Vernal equinox.

The vernal equinox was changed from it's true date to its current standard by the Vatican. "Equinox" comes from Latin "Aequinocteum," which means day of equal light and dark. Which then depends on latitude and longitude, and ranges in the north from March 14 to March 18. As examples, this year it was March 14th in London, March 15th in NYC, and March 16th in Miami. Some maintain that this is why St. Patrick's day was created by the Irish, in defiance of the Vatican. Many farmers would have had the need to "know" this as an important time, as the next day there would be more sunlight than darkness. As this would also be an important marker for seeds and plants. Similarly for the autumnal equinox, a harvest.

There are 4 main markers of the seasons with two solstices and two equinoxes. The solstices are correct, and very easy to measure. But the equinoxes are not. When all of these dates are correctly assigned on a circular date map, they comprise a cross. When they are incorrectly assigned as they currently are, they make an x.

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"There are 4 main markers of the seasons with two solstices and two equinoxes. The solstices are correct, and very easy to measure. But the equinoxes are not. "

Eh why is that?

The solstices are different from the equinoxes as in the solstices are the extreme points (with the Sun farthest to the North or to the South), but the equinoxes are the midpoints, when the Sun is exactly at zenith at the equator.

Here we are close to the equator and the Muisca already were very aware of the astronomical parameters.



The cosmo-, and thus geo-logical start of the New Year is at 21-12 of the "old" year, the December solstice. Which used to be the New Year's Date before the Gregorian calendar change in 1584 when they removed 11 days from our calendar, creating the totally nonsensical 1st of January as "New Year's Date".

3 months (1/4 of the year, so from solstice-equinox) from 21-12 is about 21-3 (a little later cause February is so short)

the moment of the equinox is not the problem, the dates our calendar have are.

[S-Frog]

The equinox meaning is equal day and night, and it is not the midpoint relating a false equator. And, when the days of the equinoxes are mapped onto land, they create similar to the path of solar eclipse totalities patterns. Like one year they form a line like the 2017 eclipse, and the next year a pattern like the 2024 eclipse. They depend on both latitude and longitude.

The vernal equinox in North America and Europe occurred this year between March 14th and 17th. But the Autumnal equinox in Australia was not until the 23rd to 25th.

One can find their true equinox through use of a Farmer's Almanac or Timeanddate.com, sun and moon tables. Just type in your location, look at March and September Sunrises, and the correct equinox will be the date where the amount of sunlight is closest to 12 hours.

[aSHIFT.]

"The equinox meaning is equal day and night,"

yes, that is meaning of the word, but it is the effect of the midpoint of the Sun traveling through the skies from one point to the other, so in between the solstices.

"and it is not the midpoint relating a false equator."

You're not a Flat Smurf, are you?

If not, what does "false equator" mean?

[rachel]

Going back to @SaiGirl's original question...things I know off the top of my head.

1. The Hebrew calendar for feasts has been standardised, but back in the time of the Temple system Passover was always on the 14th of Nisan (the first month of the year) by the luna calendar, but its start depended on when the new moon fell in relation to the spring equinox, meaning a leap might be declared. So Passover could move by a whole month.

https://judaism.stackexchange.com/quest ... ng-equinox

Ramba"m mentions that the primary concern is to have Pesach (15 Nissan) occur in the spring (i.e., after the equinox) since the Torah refers to Pesach as Chodesh Ha'aviv. The concern is not regarding the 1st day of Nissan, so, in most cases, that date occurred before the equinox. Sanhedrin would declare a leap year if the 15th of Nissan occurred before the equinox, Since this adds an extra month, by doing this, Rosh Hodesh Nissan now most likely occurs after the equinox, as well.

2. The first great schism was between the early Church and Judaism. Up until this point the Church had looked to the Rabbis for its calendar, but like in Paul's time, these Jews would use it as a hook to Judaize the Christians and try to get them under the Law. A split occurred sometime in the mid-2nd century, resulting in Rome taking over the Church and making the decision to move all the holy days so they didn't coincide with Jewish feast days, and also moving the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday. They created a new formula so Easter never fell on the same day as Passover. I've read, the primary reason for this decision was to protect the early Church from being subsumed back into Judaism, but it resulted in a massive persecution of Christians who did not make the change.

https://www.worldhistory.org/article/17 ... m-judaism/