On the past and future of cults in America

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On the past and future of cults in America

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Here's my problem with this video:

I'm a little bit tired of hearing self-righteous hypocrites ragging on "cults".

It takes one to know one, doesn't it?

Wanna know some history?

Christianity was defined as a subversive "cult" (LEGALLY) by the Roman Empire, for a long time.

There is considerable evidence that it may have been founded as a psychological warfare operation (a "false flag") to monitor infiltrate. co-opt and redirect the violent extemism of messianic Jews, who represented a serious threat to the tax revenues and moral authority of the Caesars and other elite families that ruled the Empire.

(see "Caesar's Messiah" for further details on this)

Until Constantine the Great made "Christianity" (Chi Ro)
the official religion of the Empire.

Indeed, Christianity really had a wide variety of disparate cults.
Sometimes they argued and fought with each other.
As with the Donatists, Monophysites, Mandaeans, the Arian-Athenasian controversy, and the constant bickering and struggles for dominance, between the patriarchates of Alexandria, Antioch, Rome and Jerusalem.

The Christians inherited this contentious attitude from the Jews, who also
divided into separate cults: like the Temple cult in Jerusalem (in Judaea - the southern kingdom), as opposed to the Samaritan Jews who worshipped at the high altar of Mount Gerizim (in the northern kingdom of Israel).
Followed by the Pharisees, Saducees, Essenes, Zealots, Sicarii and others.

Wanna know some more history?

AMERICA WAS FOUNDED FOR CULTS.

America is all about your RIGHT to found a cult, or belong to one.

Maybe you think I'm exaggerating ?

The British colonies in north America were established as a REFUGE for those cults who dared dispute the authority of the "Church of England".

The latter was the United Kingdom's official state religion.

England's Roman Catholics, whose loyalty was suspect, were given a slice of Virginia that was renamed to "Maryland", and designated as a resettlement location for them
The Quakers were awarded Pennsylvania to colonize, as a payoff to Admiral William Penn and his family, by the philandering and decadent Charles II; in lieu of debts owed the Quaker affiliated Penns.

The troublesome Puritans were sent first to Holland.
But they were too radical for even the Dutch "Reformed" Calvinists there, who found them to be intolerant malcontents.
So those Puritans (with their "purer than thou" attitude) sailed off to the "Massachusetts Bay" colony, landed at Plymouth Rock, and founded their own holy land.
As a refuge for their CULT.

Connecticut and Rhode Island ("the Providence Plantations") were founded because breakaway cults couldn't get along with the majority Puritans in Massachusetts.

Mennonites, Anabaptists, the "Bohemian and Moravian Brethren" who were regarded as "heretics" by both the Church of Rome and the Lutherans, fled Germany and central Europe (then known as "The Holy Roman Empire") to settle in the Pennsylvania and Delaware colonies.

Likewise with the Hugenot Walloons.

Methodists, Baptists, Diggers, etc., all manner of differing Christian sects were resettled in the "New World"; which was the British Empire's designated refugee resettlement project for cults.

And so, the very FIRST Amendment to our US Constitution specifically prohibits the "establishment" of any official government religion (cult of the state).
And clearly maintains your special right, and the right of every American, to belong to any cult they want.

Subsequently, this nation gave birth to the "Latter Day Saints" (Mormons), "Jehovah's Witnesses" (Watchtower), Shakers, "Seventh Day Adventists", Noyes' "Oneida Community", the "Fourier Phalanx" communes and a host of other "compounds", sects and "cults".

The Christian "radical abolitionists" who campaigned against slavery and encouraged slaves to run away, were banned throughout the antebellum south as "a dangerous cult".
And many of them ended up in Kansas, where they fought a bloody war to found that place as a "free state".

In modern times, America gave birth to the "Church of Scientology", "Church Universal Triumphant" (the "I Am" Temple), and so many others.
The "Unification Church" (the "Moonies") originally Korean. also established a base
here in the U.S.
As did the "Hare Krishna" folks who strive to emulate the rich and colorful spiritual traditions of ancient India

Just as I practice my own "cult" of the independent INDIVIDUAL, militantly committed to what I see as the truth.

That makes me a "de facto" member of several informal "cults", as defined and denounced by authoritarian control freaks like Cass Sunstein and his cohorts in the contolled "mainstream media", which I here denounce as a brianwashing, gas-lighitng CULT.

Now:
As to those groups and individuals who are referred to by the terms "conspiracy theorists", "9/11 truthers", "Sandy Hook truthers", autohoaxers and fakeologists:
All these groups and individuals have been smeared; libeled and slandered as "cults" by the corporate media and its corrupt partners in the current US government, "national security" bureaucracy and the traitors who run the US DoD and Pentagon brass.
All those STATE actors (and their slave media) answer to a global death / doomsday CULT headquartered in Davos, Switzerland; known as "The World Economic Forum"; with its own cadre of high priests and oracles; such as Klaus Schwab, Bill Gates, Albert Bourla and the supremely messianic Yuval Noah Harari.

The CDC, FDA and UN "World Health Org.", in conformity with and obedience to the Davos Holy Creed, have denounced "Anti-Vaxxers" as a "cult", for daring to question the lies and challenge the bogus pseudoscience
of Big Pharma; the latter having prostituted so many governments around the world.

I am proud to be an informal member, and share the values and beliefs of my comrades in all those alleged "cults".
Especially the "truthers", autohoaxers and fakeologists.

Listen:
America is the all time home of cults, and the place where religious belief is YOUR business.
You are expected to determine and practice your truth according to your own inclination for "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness".

America:
Where the almighty STATE is explicitly prohibited from regulating or controlling your right to be a "cult".

And I will defend to the death EVERY person's right to practice their own spiritual traditions, as they see fit.

This sacred value, to honor personal and spiritual FREEDOM, will always be worth fighting for.
No matter the cost or sacrifice.

And whenever you hear or see the word "cult" deployed as a pejorative, remember three things:

1) Everyone has the right to declare someone else to be a "cult".

2) YOU as an individual or member of any group, have the right (and duty) to dispute that characterization, if you consider it false or unfair or slanderous.

3) And the burden of responsibility is on YOU, to exercise your own powers of investigation, research, evaluation and DISCERNMENT in pursuit of the truth.

That's what freedom is all about.
Here in America, or anywhere else.

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Re: On the past and future of cults in America - some more cults

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Good overview and I think you make a sharp point there, that the US basically was founded FOR cults, because it was founded from cults.

and the branding of "us", truthseekers in ALL our diversity (just look at the amount of differing opinions and the lack of a conspie cult leader to see how non-sensical this accusation is) as a "cult" is perplexingly hypocritical.

(at the same time there is truth in it also, as too many conspies keep following carnies instead of coming to their own conclusions, unfortunately too many follow fauxthority)

Apart from Scientology, also a US American modern cult, I'd like to add some other US American cults I and many others recognize:

1 - the Cult of Cereals - the brothers Kellogg were the ones not only extremely cultish themselves, being involved in the 19th century religious ones, but eating cereals itself I see as a cult. I have lived in 4 countries and none of them are used to cereals as breakfast (other than the "Americanization"). Eggs, bread and porridge is what I grew up with.

Colombia is the most US-dominated country of South America, heck, even the Constitution of the country was "written by" (not literally of course) Billy and Hilly Clinton....

But cereals are NOT common breakfast here. Just as anywhere in the world, here the supermarkets also have walls full of that cereal stuff, but usually people have breakfasts like tamales, arepas, eggs with bread or caldo de costilla (beef rib broth, very good!)...

The cereal cult stemmed from very peculiar ultracalvinistic ideas especially from John Kellogg - Wikipedia, the loon is not on Fakeopedia.
An early proponent of the germ theory of disease
of course !
Kellogg dedicated the last 30 years of his life to promoting eugenics and segregation.
He was a proud eugenicist, not the only one in those times, but an inspirational figure for the Gates of this world...
Kellogg devised an electrotherapy exercise
Remember remember. Those whom I talked with over the Corona years about the vices of BigPharma I reminded of where they come from: just a century ago electroshock therapy was considered mainstream perfectly ok practice (I mean HOW incredibly insane must you be to submit patients to electroshocks)...
He is remembered as an advocate of vegetarianism and wrote in favor of it, even after leaving the Adventist Church. His dietary advice in the late 19th century discouraged meat-eating, but not emphatically so. His development of a bland diet was driven in part by the Adventist goal of reducing sexual stimulation.
I have nothing against vegetarians who choose such diet for themselves. Though when they become radical and try to conscript others in such cult, it becomes a different story.

And the reasoning WHY is what it's about. Not about animal wellbeing, but to discourage masturbation and sex in general.

2 - the Cult of Disney - I don't think I could add much more to the wealth of conspiracy content that is out there on this one. The solution is simple:

DETACH, DETOX, DEPROGRAM = stay away from it and don't raise your children with this cult.

3 - the Cult of Crapitalism - and the dissolution of fiat currency, making "money" an intrinsically valueless commodity based on trust (In God We Trust on the dollar bill) alone.

Capitalism as in stock markets and speculations are way older and a jewish-Dutch invention (Tulip Mania, kicking off The Mania TIMEline I started documenting on Fakeopedia), but the Crapitalism, the synthesis of Statism and Capitalism I'd say shaped modern economics.

It also set the stage for the acceptance of the State as "authority" (fauxthority in my Newspeech), by presenting the US state as somehow "small" and "freedom-loving" versus "communists", "socialists", etc.

There is little libertarianism in monumental military spendings, imperialist politics and overregulation of the market through "certificates" and "licensing".

Is it still the case that US American schoolchildren "salute the flag" or have to sing praise to the State?

I mean, such scenes wouldn't seem strange in a Stalinist propaganda video, but the so-called "freedom loving" US gets away with it?
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Re: On the past and future of cults in America - some more cults

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Thesis: Mass media is the epochal world religion of global corporate technocracy.

The media has supplanted, absorbed and co-opted all the traditional giant religious cults.

Here, Ned Beatty (expressing the words of author Paddy Chayefsky) explains the details to "News Anchor Howard Beale":

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Fear and Loathing on the "General Flynn Tour"

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" ... on stage with Ashli Babbitt's mother. ..." ??????

Gen. Flynn (career psyops specialist) boosting the “Ashli Babbitt death” hoax.
He knows Jan. 6 was a clown show of crisis actors and FBI rats.
Flynn was probably in on the detailed planning for the event and deployments.
And that means he has to know that nobody died and nobody cried.
Mike Flynn Traitor.jpeg
That would be consistent with the careers of Flynn, his family and his peers in the Pentagon brass.

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Below is Mike Flynn on stage, on Mother’s Day, with the mother of Ashli Babbitt — who died because she believed she was saving the children based on QAnon, a psychological operation that Mike Flynn created and weaponized on January 6th. On Flynn’s other side is insurrectionist Ivan Raiklin, who invented the “Pence Card” to target the Vice President for pressure and violence.
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https://www.mind-war.com/p/the-rough-pl ... of-america
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