The Smoke Screen: the evidence?

[petrodromu]

In the 10-part Live September Clues Watch Party on FAKO Radio (FAK940 to FAK949) at https://fakeotube.com/cat/live-stream was heard recurring discussion of the Total Smoke Screen theory. The basics concept is that

"Thus, in all probability, the oldest trick in the manuals of covert military ops was used: smokescreens. ...In reality, the towers were most likely enveloped in thick smoke (military obscurants) as they collapsed - and no real footage exists of that brief event."

as written at https://www.septemberclues.org/power_of_imagery.shtml.

A question would follow: If there is no existing "authentic" footage (photography or videography), then what is the evidence that a smokescreen was deployed?

Is it the testimony of many alleged observers who commented on the smoke? How can the reliabilty of those reports be determined, if there were allegedly many actors as carefully transmitted by well-controlled media?

Is there some kind of well-defined collection of "authentic, non-controlled, organic, first-person reports" from that fateful date? This would consist of people either going about their day, then evacuating (or not), or something like that, for the most part, presumably. Maybe oral testimony. Maybe some film photography. It might be surprising if in 2001 if there was no authentic amateur 35mm film photography of such an amazing and somewhat long-lasting spectacle, but maybe that is possible, especially if there were official, authoritative efforts to collect any and all examples of such of artifacts, for the greater good.

Throughout FAKO 940-949, the host, Ab Iratio, seemed to stick to a position that zero authentic footage remains. Maybe. If so, what evidence exists of the smokescreen that went up? Is it simply a logically arrived at conclusion at this point?

On this topic: In FAC1467, a speaker, Misom, recounted having seen smoke clouds on European (German) television (on, or perhaps shortly after, 9/11), and asked if these could have captured and shown such a Total Smoke Screen, the implication being that perhaps a European outlet could have accessed a video source other than the posited centrally-controlled single source. These recounted moving pictures, too, Ab Iratio suggest would have been just another inconsistent conjured set of media in the pile of contrived imagery. How exactly exactly did that German footage appear; is it archived online? An immediate review of the TV archives does not show such footage, but maybe it is somewhere.

[petrodromu]

The topic in the OP (what evidence there is for the total smoke screen theory) was talked about in FAC1468, in which Ab Iratio clarified that the smoke screen theory was:

1. Just offered as a possibility and was not suggested as a certainty
2. Just rather plausible, given the rest of the analyses

Therefore, basically, no evidence for it is considered to be known, likely, or necessary, considering the premise that all the footage is inconsistent, generated, untrusted, etc., and that there is no real need to prove it, as this itself is not the central point. The main point being highly controlled and manipulated media, and this smoke screen just being one thing that could have made a lot of sense to have been done at the actual location at the time of the virtual show.

[antipodean]

At the time of the WTC 1&2 collapses, the live broadcasts were focused on the pentagon any footage showing the towers, was shown as being filmed from a distance with them engulfed in smoke, people living locally would then see something similar to what was being screened on live Television.

In this video showing the collapse at 20 mins & 20sec, the live News commentator says "and again this is taped"
Start watching from about 18 minutes.



https://cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?t=802&start=435

https://cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?p ... 3#p2388453

[petrodromu]

Start watching from about 18 minutes.

Thanks. From the CNN footage archive, here's some depiction:

From the ground

[petrodromu]

Continued from the CNN footage archive, some whitish washout:

[petrodromu]

Continued from the CNN footage archive, more:

Totally enveloped

[petrodromu]

Continued from the CNN footage archive, more:

Not forgetting DC

[DonPowell]

9/11. If you can't tell me why General Electric is as big of a suspect as anyone then I'm not sure one photograph is going to help.
"This is New York A Democracy of Photography" all professionals.
Andres and Tisha standing on the exact same corner.
Kei. Sony Vk2000 same camera used by James Hanlon
James Hanlon directed the first plane strike.
There is a memorial tour guide on YouTube. He bought a house for 10 dollars and sold it for 499999
Had his radio is in the museum.
On the memorial website if you open the xml file for the pictures you'll notice they are copyrighted and "submitted by owner" bit captured by owner no. Easy explanation is they were purchased and legitimate.

If there was a real picture it's going to be the smoke screen from Staten Island.
You must understand.
NDA.
Patriot Act.
24 years and cancer
Extreme internet surveillance.

That book I mentioned.
You turn in an honest picture. Fill out a form. Sign an NDA that you can't disclose the information. They knock on your door the next week. Politely collect it all. Say it will be returned. Call you an American hero.
Don't forget black sites and Guantanamo Bay.
Lack of Internet in the first week. Slow internet.
Fully watched.
It is not as hard as everyone makes it out to scrub and control all evidence.
The money spent in Iraq with contractors will prove the support this had.
The money the DoD burns every year.

If you weren't there and saw it with your eyes. You have no more ground to stand on the first conspiracy theory to the last.
Look up who owns the newspapers and stations at that time. And today.

Idk. The one thing I foind. It doesn't matter what side you are on. NwdjracSSab. All of substack. All of X reddit and YouTube
It is all the same. No one wants to help others to understand the truth
The people that do are pushing 15 year old propaganda with the same 15 year old crap.



H.Res.1258 - Impeaching George W. Bush, President of the United States, of high crimes and misdemeanors.
110th Congress (2007-2008)
ResolutionHide Overview
Sponsor: Rep. Kucinich, Dennis J. [D-OH-10]
President George W. Bush for high crimes and misdemeanors.

Sets forth articles of impeachment stating that President Bush, in violation of his oath of office: (1) illegally spent public dollars on a secret propaganda program to manufacture a false cause for war against Iraq; (2) misused intelligence reports to deceive Congress and the public about a connection between Saddam Hussein and al Qaeda and the the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001; (3) mislead Congress and the public into believing that Iraq possessed weapons of mass destruction and posed an imminent threat to the United States; (4) illegally misspent funds to begin a war in secret prior to congressional authorization; (5) invaded Iraq in violation of U.S. law, the United Nations Charter, and international criminal law and failed to obtain a declaration of war; (6) failed to protect U.S. troops in Iraq by not providing them with body and vehicle armor and promoted false stories about the deaths and injuries of members of the U.S. military; (7) used public funds to construct permanent U.S. military bases in Iraq; (8) invaded Iraq to obtain control of its oil resources; (9) created a secret task force to guide U.S. energy and military policy in usurpation of the role of Congress in legislating such policy; (10) misused classified intelligence information and conspired to identify a covert agent of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA); (11) established policies granting U.S. government contractors in Iraq immunity from prosecution; (12) recklessly misspent public dollars on private contractors in Iraq; (13) detained U.S. citizens and foreign captives indefinitely and without charge; (14) authorized torture of captives in Afghanistan and Iraq; (15) kidnapped and transported individuals to countries known to practice torture; (16) authorized the arrest and detention of at least 2,500 children as enemy combatants in violation of the Geneva Convention; (17) mislead Congress and the public about threats from Iran; (18) created secret laws through the issuance of legal opinions by the Department of Justice and violated the Posse Comitatus Act; (19) authorized warrantless electronic surveillance of U.S. citizens; (20) directed telecommunication companies to create databases of the private telephone numbers and emails of U.S. citizens; (21) used signing statements to claim the right to violate laws enacted by Congress; (22) failed to comply with congressional subpoenas and instructed former executive branch employees not to comply with such subpoenas; (23) tampered with the conduct of free and fair elections and corrupted the administration of justice; (24) conspired to violate the voting rights of U.S. citizens; (25) pursued policies calculated to destroy the Medicare program; (26) failed to prepare for the predictable disasters caused by Hurricane Katrina; (27) mislead Congress and the public in an effort to undermine efforts to address global climate change; and (28) failed to take proper steps to protect the United States against the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, obstructed investigations into such attacks, and recklessly endangered the health of first responders near the site of such attacks.

[DonPowell]

This person claims to be genuine. NY website on webarchive will show the ground zero area closed off.
Webarchive forums you will find people posting that they went down to volunteer and couldn't get close and were rudely turned away..

[DonPowell]

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