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Thinking a resources subforum to post and review/discuss online research resources:
computer software e.g. alternative web browsers, video tube sites
free software including operating systems, communication, research software to help organize findings
search engines
online archives

offline resources
e.g. libraries where there's a hardcopy only available in a certain location- members here could for instance help eachother out in researching or viewing rare documents for instance

a few ideas.
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I agree.

Have posted this in chat but feel it would do better in a ‘Resources’ forum.

https://librivox.org/
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The resources sub-forum would be good to also discuss research methods; organizing information, if there are existing software tools that are good at this, and perhaps even developing software ideas to do this if anyone is knowledgeable in that area.

Beyond the resources themselves and the research, it is worth discussing presentation of material, pros, cons what have you.

I'll post a few things here to get started

Online we have the-
https://Archive.org;
and it's also very useful -
Waybackmachine
however if you don't know the URL or that what you want, it can be hard to find what's holed up back there, and there can be dead links from within the archived websites, though there may still the page you are looking for somewhere in there, it can take a real runaround to get it, becoming very time consuming.

with that in mind, it may be useful to create a list of URLs to interesting but dead sites, as well as the links to the waybackmachine that are of interest in different topics.

in the vein of waybackmachine, there is -
https://archive.today
which "It takes a 'snapshot' of a webpage that will always be online even if the original page disappears." very useful stuff.
Not forgetting we can submit a URL to be archived as a snapshot ourselves on waybackmachine too.

making a local copy on your machine is of course encouraged also, and there are options to "screenshot" entire webpages as opposed to what is visible in that moment in your current area that is visible to the screen which is good, more info would be related to your particular browser which is another topic to look at again.

Classic "printing" of a webpage to pdf.

Back to archive.org which is like an online library, there is an incredible amount of stuff on there, many rare old books
if you come across anything particularly rare and maybe controversial, then it is well worth downloading a local copy which is very easy, unless it is under the limited preview, where you can only borrow it for one hour, there are no doubt many ways around these kind of limitations, at least there is time to flick through and use the find in text function to see if it contains anything of note, and perhaps screenshot it or whatever before time is up.

worldcat.org is a great website for finding books in local libraries. However I often find that interesting stuff is 1000s of miles away in an academic library I will never get access to. Almost like they don't want us to access anything first hand :roll:

hathitrust.org Is a great website for old books, though there are copyright restrictions on anything newer and a lot of stuff can not be viewed, though it does search within the text, even if you cannot read it. This links back to WorldCat.org where maybe there is library copy.

JSTOR.org is another academic source, though it is not free.

Search Engines

beyond google we have bing, duckduckgo startpage... we all know google used to function and give good results, now it is terrible, duckduckgo seemed to be derived from google anyways.
Then there is yandex (the Russian google? I'm not too sure) which seems to work a bit more like how google used to.

alternates are https://searx.space this actually links to other searx search engine website instances. As far as I'm aware this is is not g00gle derivative, though I'm not sure .

@fakeologist has talked about https://PreSearch.org

related to search engines are Reverse image searches, aka search by image which are very useful, g00gle, bing, yandex do this, another site just for this is https://Tineye.com

Video Platforms
Youtube - Has a purposely designed poor search function with almost no limiting criteria to hone down results, a continuous feed or memory hole.
alternate front-ends to browse youtube videos:
https://docs.invidious.io/instances/
https://redirect.invidious.io/


If you know a good website or method to search youtube with more limiting criteria to find your results please do contribute.

----Android
- alternate app store f-droid - https://f-droid.org/
"F-Droid is an install-able catalogue of FOSS (Free and Open Source Software) applications for the Android platform. The client makes it easy to browse, install, and keep track of updates on your device."

Then from within this app store on your device you have:
NewPipe Turn screen off and listen to videos, download as audio or video, blocks ads - highly recommended
SkyTube as above, though you can also block channels and individual videos
LibreTube much the same

and probably more options, no need for the youtube app, maybe occasional hiccups but take your pick and try out these alternates

----Iphone
-suggestions please-

Other Video Tube Hosts
beyond of course https://fakeotube.com/
we have-
https://odysee.com/
https://rumble.com/
https://bitchute.com/
and many more ... to follow


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please do contribute suggestions and opinions on the different listed things
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Lots of great stuff there, thank you!

I have an old laptop that I want to use mainly for storage of online information before it gets memoryholed. This is probably a stupid question but if I download something from YouTube and then it gets deleted from YouTube, do I still have a watchable copy that will always last? If the answer is yes, then I’m amazed that that can happen and don’t understand how it can.
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Helena wrote: Sun May 01, 2022 3:12 am if I download something from YouTube and then it gets deleted from YouTube, do I still have a watchable copy that will always last? If the answer is yes, then I’m amazed that that can happen and don’t understand how it can.
Yeah if you download a local copy it will stay there, whatever youtube decides in the future, aside from hard drive corruption, broken technology and such things!. It is a question of the data being stored on your machine rather than youtube's web servers, and as such they can't remove it from your laptop or whatever it may be, hope that helps answer your question a bit .

Another useful tool in the realm of downloading web videos-
TVDownloader
https://www.videohelp.com/software/Yout ... Downloader
"TVDownloader (aka YoutubeVideoDownloader) downloads video and audio streams from Youtube, Vimeo, DailyMotion, Twitch, Veoh, BBC, +900 more sites to a videofile or mp3file. Very easy to use, just copy the video url, set the output folder, select the video resolution option: Best, 1080p, 720p, 480p, 360p and download! Based on youtube-dl and ffmpeg."
Another option for the toolbox :D
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Thank you! (from a technologically inept, embarrassingly so, person who should really know better at this point)!
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